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00:00:01,951\n有請嚴主委請嚴主委林委員好主委好首先我先針對退伍會在業務報告裡面中有提到針對這次花蓮發生的馬太安堰澀湖的災害重創了花蓮縣的光復鄉然後你們不但立即鼓勵\n\n2\n00:00:24,329 --> 00:00:26,410\n啟動了整個榮民的服務的關懷花蓮榮福處的職員們還有榮興志工都在災害的時候號召夥伴們都前往光復的災區協助進行整個清理的家園退福會也所屬的台北榮總的育理的分院\n\n3\n00:00:42,742 --> 00:00:46,184\n也在第一個時間全部投入整個的救災也設立了整個安心小鎮還有醫療站所以守護了我們整個東部的民眾的安全然後本席想藉這次質詢的機會代表花蓮的光復的鄉親向退伍會表達整個感謝謝謝委員希望退伍會未來我們還是持續能夠用心繼續關懷光復鄉和我們花東地區的鄉親會會持續關懷\n\n4\n00:01:08,419 --> 00:01:10,780\n接下來就是退友會在花東地區設有一個台東農場目前農場有兩座分場本席今天就是有關台東農場營運的問題想要請教主委台東農場是不是也有提供住宿服務分別是在花蓮分場的壽豐的會館\n\n5\n00:01:28,524 --> 00:01:31,066\n還有台東農場位於台東的慈善會館還有東和農莊總共有三個地方根據整個了解花蓮分廠的遊客114年整個上半年的總人數只有200多人為什麼參觀的人數少的可憐為什麼受封會館整個住宿人數都是一直在下降\n\n6\n00:01:50,663 --> 00:01:51,924\n還有台東的慈善會館和東河農莊為什麼會停止對外營運為什麼三處的觀光住宿的營運會那麼差有沒有什麼改善的方案\n\n7\n00:02:02,782 --> 00:02:30,827\n跟委員報告台東農場那邊的池上會館還有東河農莊他分別在113年4月還有今年的1月委外經營了但是他目前是因為在整建在進行整建的工程要到明年的1月還有到117年1月才會復業所以剛剛委員所提到的他這個業績還有人數比較減少他因為整建期間他是\n\n8\n00:02:31,607 --> 00:02:49,547\n暂停营业的暂停营业官网官网也暂时没有揭露所有旅游的资讯那么等到复业之后会同步更新订房跟旅游相关的一些内容那么第二个跟委员报告就花莲寿丰会馆\n\n9\n00:02:50,348 --> 00:03:18,099\n因為113年地震所以日式的建築物那邊建築物有一些損壞所以暫停營業也是整修一年那麼今年又受到前面的颱風微波跟華家煞颱風的影響到9月我們累積的遊客是1798個但是我們叫過去也是有衰退的但是因為發展觀光條例限制自營\n\n10\n00:03:19,099 --> 00:03:33,977\n那麼由廠商也表達經營的意願為了能夠維持旅宿服務現在由內政部審議都市計劃變更為產業專用區通過之後辦理招商的事宜那麼詳細情形我再請我們事業處處長做補充\n\n11\n00:03:36,372 --> 00:03:52,820\n委員好我是事業管理處處長楊長正我們台中農場有三個分廠過去是經營旅宿業是絕對沒有問題的但是因為發展觀光條例的限制現在是條例已經有五年執行了但是我們之前我們就已經委外經營了\n\n12\n00:03:53,740 --> 00:04:15,385\n那未來受風會館我們也會朝這個方向去我們希望藉著委外經營吸引民間的力量進來以後可以促進地方的觀光發展我舉個例子譬如說我們的松原別館我們這次參加松原別館參加我們觀光署辦的旅遊景點它就獲得了花東地區跟外島地區的第四名\n\n13\n00:04:16,165 --> 00:04:41,805\n這個非常不簡單我親自去那邊看過以後我認為那個是一個歷史建築漂亮很漂亮的歷史建築應該可以恢復原貌就跟我們壽豐會館一樣可能我們自己經營可能是經營會有些限制因素但是引進民間的力量以後應該可以擴大發展它本來就的樣貌去吸引遊客的進駐這是我們的期望謝謝委員\n\n14\n00:04:44,011 --> 00:04:47,275\n接下來我還有一個小的問題想要請教就是像台東農場這樣有沒有什麼重大機密需要保密的問題因為主委你知道嗎為什麼本席要這樣問因為本席在上網瀏覽台東農場的官方的網站上面有發現他的組織整個架構上面為什麼連廠長\n\n15\n00:05:03,613 --> 00:05:17,400\n還有副廠長的名字都不能公開都還要整個遮蔽呢就連我們退伍會的本會的我們的局處首長包括正副主委你們的名字都是光明正大的揭露在官網上面啊那為什麼台東農場會有不敢揭露名字的問題呢\n\n16\n00:05:25,501 --> 00:05:33,834\n謝謝委員指正這個我還不是很了解我想說是不是有什麼重大機密需要保密呢沒有沒有沒有我們下期再做了解\n\n17\n00:05:35,376 --> 00:05:58,696\n所以其實退伍會的農場其實剛才我們大家也講了嘛都是辛苦的農民流汗打拼出來的所以在農產品上面旅遊上面真的是要好好的經營阿本席也期待退伍會會針對台東農場這些提出更有效能還有真正能為花東地區帶來觀光效應的好地方這樣才不枉費納稅人的託付可以嗎是是謝謝委員知道\n\n18\n00:06:01,255 --> 00:06:04,478\n接下來我想要針對退除役人員培訓與就業的問題想要請教主委退伍會長期以來都伴有退除役官兵職業的整個訓練的計畫然後111年到113年的職業訓練中有自辦和委外職訓人員參訓後就業率是88%然後委外訓練的就業率是75%\n\n19\n00:06:25,479 --> 00:06:28,021\n主委根據整個統計的資料我們來顯示我們來看為什麼退除役人員委外的就業訓練就業率就一直都不是很高成效也沒有辦法提升照理講一般委外的訓練的單位應該要更專業才對啊\n\n20\n00:06:42,151 --> 00:06:47,677\n所以還有我還有一個就是說根據退伍會有關的繼續追蹤受訓者整個的在職的情況辦理情形資料上面也有顯示112年本來就是原有260個人沒有就業但是在接受輔導之後還有140個人沒有就業\n\n21\n00:07:01,593 --> 00:07:05,715\n113年原有234個人沒有就業接受輔導之後仍然有149個人在待業中也就是說113年就業的人數竟然只有85個那我想請問主委為什麼接受輔導之後還是仍有那麼多將近過半的退役人員都沒有就業呢光是這些退役人員根本\n\n22\n00:07:25,862 --> 00:07:27,944\n是沒有辦法就業沒有這些就業的需要呢還是他們回歸職場整個的適應不良還是我們的輔導是效果是有限呢報告委員我請就業處處長跟您說明一下\n\n23\n00:07:39,232 --> 00:07:45,313\n我也好我是就業處處長跟您檢要報告第一點就有關於培訓的部分因為我們的委外訓練是招收這個有業無業的人而且他是以培養第二專長或者閒熟技能為主要的目的那他因為委外訓練我們是在北中南來開辦雖然是公開招標但是這些委外的這些訓練機構都是合法的但是他的資源或者一個規模大小都比不上我的執訓中心\n\n24\n00:08:07,677 --> 00:08:12,781\n所以再加上他因為他的訓練的期限都是比較中期或者是短期的一個訓練所以在培養技能上面事實上不如我中長期這樣子那麼深入因此在就業訓後就業上面確實是比較弱一點但是我們這幾年也都一直在向上攀升所以我們後續都會針對這個委外訓練的廠商我會加強他在採購的這個條件上面\n\n25\n00:08:36,078 --> 00:08:38,200\n我們會要求去這個提高他的標準第二個訓後就業你也要給我開拓職缺那當然更重要的就是我們的一個訓員你一定要有就業的意願如果說你沒有訓後不就業的話我們也會做一個記錄將來也會\n\n26\n00:08:52,575 --> 00:08:56,317\n這個減少他一個參訓這樣都可以有效的提升我的一個訓後就業率那第二點有關於這個就學我們每一年在領取我的就學補助以後我們會去做一個學後的一個就業追蹤那根據您剛所提到的因為我們調查在今年來講的話他其實未就業的人\n\n27\n00:09:14,147 --> 00:09:27,619\n他有一几个目的第一个他可能是因为需要照顾家庭第二个他已经在求职当中第三个他还在准备升学第四个他确实暂时没有这个就业的计划那针对于这些的个案我们其实都有都一百多个而已都散布在我的各个荣福处我们要求他们都会针对这些的个案去进行相关的一个个案的开案的\n\n28\n00:09:38,669 --> 00:09:44,376\n一個需求然後持續去追蹤關懷希望他能夠再重新的回到職場以上為什麼我會提到這個問題就是因為這個退出義軍人的就業的問題其實我是擔心因為這個是否會讓青年從軍的意願大打折扣會影響到國軍人力的招募\n\n29\n00:09:59,753 --> 00:10:21,792\n因為畢竟退除役軍人的就業率如果他整個後面低落的情況會聯想到想當兵的年輕人可能會擔心就是說萬一他們以後從軍之後然後是不是就沒有辦法後面就是退役後沒有辦法順利的回到職場的問題所以我本來就是想說請主委要好好的了解原因畢竟退伍會是退除役官兵服務和照顧的整個的專責機關謝謝委員的關心跟指導謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n129\t1951\t有請嚴主委 請嚴主委林委員好主委好 首先我先針對退伍會在業務報告裡面中有提到針對這次花蓮發生的馬太安堰澀湖的災害重創了花蓮縣的光復鄉然後你們不但立即鼓勵\n24329\t26410\t啟動了整個榮民的服務的關懷花蓮榮福處的職員們還有榮興志工都在災害的時候號召夥伴們都前往光復的災區協助進行整個清理的家園退福會也所屬的台北榮總的育理的分院\n42742\t46184\t也在第一個時間全部投入整個的救災也設立了整個安心小鎮還有醫療站所以守護了我們整個東部的民眾的安全然後本席想藉這次質詢的機會代表花蓮的光復的鄉親向退伍會表達整個感謝謝謝委員希望退伍會未來我們還是持續能夠用心繼續關懷光復鄉和我們花東地區的鄉親會 會持續關懷\n68419\t70780\t接下來就是退友會在花東地區設有一個台東農場目前農場有兩座分場本席今天就是有關台東農場營運的問題想要請教主委台東農場是不是也有提供住宿服務分別是在花蓮分場的壽豐的會館\n88524\t91066\t還有台東農場位於台東的慈善會館還有東和農莊總共有三個地方根據整個了解花蓮分廠的遊客114年整個上半年的總人數只有200多人為什麼參觀的人數少的可憐為什麼受封會館整個住宿人數都是一直在下降\n110663\t111924\t還有台東的慈善會館和東河農莊為什麼會停止對外營運為什麼三處的觀光住宿的營運會那麼差有沒有什麼改善的方案\n122782\t150827\t跟委員報告台東農場那邊的池上會館還有東河農莊他分別在113年4月還有今年的1月委外經營了但是他目前是因為在整建在進行整建的工程要到明年的1月還有到117年1月才會復業所以剛剛委員所提到的他這個業績還有人數比較減少他因為整建期間他是\n151607\t169547\t暂停营业的暂停营业官网官网也暂时没有揭露所有旅游的资讯那么等到复业之后会同步更新订房跟旅游相关的一些内容那么第二个跟委员报告就花莲寿丰会馆\n170348\t198099\t因為113年地震所以日式的建築物那邊建築物有一些損壞所以暫停營業也是整修一年那麼今年又受到前面的颱風微波跟華家煞颱風的影響到9月我們累積的遊客是1798個但是我們叫過去也是有衰退的但是因為發展觀光條例限制自營\n199099\t213977\t那麼由廠商也表達經營的意願為了能夠維持旅宿服務現在由內政部審議都市計劃變更為產業專用區通過之後辦理招商的事宜那麼詳細情形我再請我們事業處處長做補充\n216372\t232820\t委員好 我是事業管理處處長楊長正我們台中農場有三個分廠過去是經營旅宿業是絕對沒有問題的但是因為發展觀光條例的限制現在是條例已經有五年執行了但是我們之前我們就已經委外經營了\n233740\t255385\t那未來受風會館我們也會朝這個方向去我們希望藉著委外經營吸引民間的力量進來以後可以促進地方的觀光發展我舉個例子 譬如說我們的松原別館我們這次參加松原別館參加我們觀光署辦的旅遊景點它就獲得了花東地區跟外島地區的第四名\n256165\t281805\t這個非常不簡單我親自去那邊看過以後我認為那個是一個歷史建築漂亮很漂亮的歷史建築應該可以恢復原貌就跟我們壽豐會館一樣可能我們自己經營可能是經營會有些限制因素但是引進民間的力量以後應該可以擴大發展它本來就的樣貌去吸引遊客的進駐這是我們的期望 謝謝委員\n284011\t287275\t接下來我還有一個小的問題想要請教就是像台東農場這樣有沒有什麼重大機密需要保密的問題因為主委你知道嗎為什麼本席要這樣問因為本席在上網瀏覽台東農場的官方的網站上面有發現他的組織整個架構上面為什麼連廠長\n303613\t317400\t還有副廠長的名字都不能公開都還要整個遮蔽呢就連我們退伍會的本會的我們的局處首長包括正副主委你們的名字都是光明正大的揭露在官網上面啊那為什麼台東農場會有不敢揭露名字的問題呢\n325501\t333834\t謝謝委員指正這個我還不是很了解我想說是不是有什麼重大機密需要保密呢沒有沒有沒有我們下期再做了解\n335376\t358696\t所以其實退伍會的農場其實剛才我們大家也講了嘛都是辛苦的農民流汗打拼出來的所以在農產品上面旅遊上面真的是要好好的經營阿本席也期待退伍會會針對台東農場這些提出更有效能還有真正能為花東地區帶來觀光效應的好地方這樣才不枉費納稅人的託付可以嗎是是 謝謝委員知道\n361255\t364478\t接下來我想要針對退除役人員培訓與就業的問題想要請教主委退伍會長期以來都伴有退除役官兵職業的整個訓練的計畫然後111年到113年的職業訓練中有自辦和委外職訓人員參訓後就業率是88%然後委外訓練的就業率是75%\n385479\t388021\t主委根據整個統計的資料我們來顯示我們來看為什麼退除役人員委外的就業訓練就業率就一直都不是很高成效也沒有辦法提升照理講一般委外的訓練的單位應該要更專業才對啊\n402151\t407677\t所以還有我還有一個就是說根據退伍會有關的繼續追蹤受訓者整個的在職的情況辦理情形資料上面也有顯示112年本來就是原有260個人沒有就業但是在接受輔導之後還有140個人沒有就業\n421593\t425715\t113年原有234個人沒有就業接受輔導之後仍然有149個人在待業中也就是說113年就業的人數竟然只有85個那我想請問主委為什麼接受輔導之後還是仍有那麼多將近過半的退役人員都沒有就業呢光是這些退役人員根本\n445862\t447944\t是沒有辦法就業沒有這些就業的需要呢還是他們回歸職場整個的適應不良還是我們的輔導是效果是有限呢報告委員我請就業處處長跟您說明一下\n459232\t465313\t我也好我是就業處處長跟您檢要報告第一點就有關於培訓的部分因為我們的委外訓練是招收這個有業無業的人而且他是以培養第二專長或者閒熟技能為主要的目的那他因為委外訓練我們是在北中南來開辦雖然是公開招標但是這些委外的這些訓練機構都是合法的但是他的資源或者一個規模大小都比不上我的執訓中心\n487677\t492781\t所以再加上他因為他的訓練的期限都是比較中期或者是短期的一個訓練所以在培養技能上面事實上不如我中長期這樣子那麼深入因此在就業訓後就業上面確實是比較弱一點但是我們這幾年也都一直在向上攀升所以我們後續都會針對這個委外訓練的廠商我會加強他在採購的這個條件上面\n516078\t518200\t我們會要求去這個提高他的標準第二個訓後就業你也要給我開拓職缺那當然更重要的就是我們的一個訓員你一定要有就業的意願如果說你沒有訓後不就業的話我們也會做一個記錄將來也會\n532575\t536317\t這個減少他一個參訓這樣都可以有效的提升我的一個訓後就業率那第二點有關於這個就學我們每一年在領取我的就學補助以後我們會去做一個學後的一個就業追蹤那根據您剛所提到的因為我們調查在今年來講的話他其實未就業的人\n554147\t567619\t他有一几个目的第一个他可能是因为需要照顾家庭第二个他已经在求职当中第三个他还在准备升学第四个他确实暂时没有这个就业的计划那针对于这些的个案我们其实都有都一百多个而已都散布在我的各个荣福处我们要求他们都会针对这些的个案去进行相关的一个个案的开案的\n578669\t584376\t一個需求然後持續去追蹤關懷希望他能夠再重新的回到職場以上為什麼我會提到這個問題就是因為這個退出義軍人的就業的問題其實我是擔心因為這個是否會讓青年從軍的意願大打折扣會影響到國軍人力的招募\n599753\t621792\t因為畢竟退除役軍人的就業率如果他整個後面低落的情況會聯想到想當兵的年輕人可能會擔心就是說萬一他們以後從軍之後然後是不是就沒有辦法後面就是退役後沒有辦法順利的回到職場的問題所以我本來就是想說請主委要好好的了解原因畢竟退伍會是退除役官兵服務和照顧的整個的專責機關謝謝委員的關心跟指導謝謝\n","txt":"有請嚴主委 請嚴主委林委員好主委好 首先我先針對退伍會在業務報告裡面中有提到針對這次花蓮發生的馬太安堰澀湖的災害重創了花蓮縣的光復鄉然後你們不但立即鼓勵\n啟動了整個榮民的服務的關懷花蓮榮福處的職員們還有榮興志工都在災害的時候號召夥伴們都前往光復的災區協助進行整個清理的家園退福會也所屬的台北榮總的育理的分院\n也在第一個時間全部投入整個的救災也設立了整個安心小鎮還有醫療站所以守護了我們整個東部的民眾的安全然後本席想藉這次質詢的機會代表花蓮的光復的鄉親向退伍會表達整個感謝謝謝委員希望退伍會未來我們還是持續能夠用心繼續關懷光復鄉和我們花東地區的鄉親會 會持續關懷\n接下來就是退友會在花東地區設有一個台東農場目前農場有兩座分場本席今天就是有關台東農場營運的問題想要請教主委台東農場是不是也有提供住宿服務分別是在花蓮分場的壽豐的會館\n還有台東農場位於台東的慈善會館還有東和農莊總共有三個地方根據整個了解花蓮分廠的遊客114年整個上半年的總人數只有200多人為什麼參觀的人數少的可憐為什麼受封會館整個住宿人數都是一直在下降\n還有台東的慈善會館和東河農莊為什麼會停止對外營運為什麼三處的觀光住宿的營運會那麼差有沒有什麼改善的方案\n跟委員報告台東農場那邊的池上會館還有東河農莊他分別在113年4月還有今年的1月委外經營了但是他目前是因為在整建在進行整建的工程要到明年的1月還有到117年1月才會復業所以剛剛委員所提到的他這個業績還有人數比較減少他因為整建期間他是\n暂停营业的暂停营业官网官网也暂时没有揭露所有旅游的资讯那么等到复业之后会同步更新订房跟旅游相关的一些内容那么第二个跟委员报告就花莲寿丰会馆\n因為113年地震所以日式的建築物那邊建築物有一些損壞所以暫停營業也是整修一年那麼今年又受到前面的颱風微波跟華家煞颱風的影響到9月我們累積的遊客是1798個但是我們叫過去也是有衰退的但是因為發展觀光條例限制自營\n那麼由廠商也表達經營的意願為了能夠維持旅宿服務現在由內政部審議都市計劃變更為產業專用區通過之後辦理招商的事宜那麼詳細情形我再請我們事業處處長做補充\n委員好 我是事業管理處處長楊長正我們台中農場有三個分廠過去是經營旅宿業是絕對沒有問題的但是因為發展觀光條例的限制現在是條例已經有五年執行了但是我們之前我們就已經委外經營了\n那未來受風會館我們也會朝這個方向去我們希望藉著委外經營吸引民間的力量進來以後可以促進地方的觀光發展我舉個例子 譬如說我們的松原別館我們這次參加松原別館參加我們觀光署辦的旅遊景點它就獲得了花東地區跟外島地區的第四名\n這個非常不簡單我親自去那邊看過以後我認為那個是一個歷史建築漂亮很漂亮的歷史建築應該可以恢復原貌就跟我們壽豐會館一樣可能我們自己經營可能是經營會有些限制因素但是引進民間的力量以後應該可以擴大發展它本來就的樣貌去吸引遊客的進駐這是我們的期望 謝謝委員\n接下來我還有一個小的問題想要請教就是像台東農場這樣有沒有什麼重大機密需要保密的問題因為主委你知道嗎為什麼本席要這樣問因為本席在上網瀏覽台東農場的官方的網站上面有發現他的組織整個架構上面為什麼連廠長\n還有副廠長的名字都不能公開都還要整個遮蔽呢就連我們退伍會的本會的我們的局處首長包括正副主委你們的名字都是光明正大的揭露在官網上面啊那為什麼台東農場會有不敢揭露名字的問題呢\n謝謝委員指正這個我還不是很了解我想說是不是有什麼重大機密需要保密呢沒有沒有沒有我們下期再做了解\n所以其實退伍會的農場其實剛才我們大家也講了嘛都是辛苦的農民流汗打拼出來的所以在農產品上面旅遊上面真的是要好好的經營阿本席也期待退伍會會針對台東農場這些提出更有效能還有真正能為花東地區帶來觀光效應的好地方這樣才不枉費納稅人的託付可以嗎是是 謝謝委員知道\n接下來我想要針對退除役人員培訓與就業的問題想要請教主委退伍會長期以來都伴有退除役官兵職業的整個訓練的計畫然後111年到113年的職業訓練中有自辦和委外職訓人員參訓後就業率是88%然後委外訓練的就業率是75%\n主委根據整個統計的資料我們來顯示我們來看為什麼退除役人員委外的就業訓練就業率就一直都不是很高成效也沒有辦法提升照理講一般委外的訓練的單位應該要更專業才對啊\n所以還有我還有一個就是說根據退伍會有關的繼續追蹤受訓者整個的在職的情況辦理情形資料上面也有顯示112年本來就是原有260個人沒有就業但是在接受輔導之後還有140個人沒有就業\n113年原有234個人沒有就業接受輔導之後仍然有149個人在待業中也就是說113年就業的人數竟然只有85個那我想請問主委為什麼接受輔導之後還是仍有那麼多將近過半的退役人員都沒有就業呢光是這些退役人員根本\n是沒有辦法就業沒有這些就業的需要呢還是他們回歸職場整個的適應不良還是我們的輔導是效果是有限呢報告委員我請就業處處長跟您說明一下\n我也好我是就業處處長跟您檢要報告第一點就有關於培訓的部分因為我們的委外訓練是招收這個有業無業的人而且他是以培養第二專長或者閒熟技能為主要的目的那他因為委外訓練我們是在北中南來開辦雖然是公開招標但是這些委外的這些訓練機構都是合法的但是他的資源或者一個規模大小都比不上我的執訓中心\n所以再加上他因為他的訓練的期限都是比較中期或者是短期的一個訓練所以在培養技能上面事實上不如我中長期這樣子那麼深入因此在就業訓後就業上面確實是比較弱一點但是我們這幾年也都一直在向上攀升所以我們後續都會針對這個委外訓練的廠商我會加強他在採購的這個條件上面\n我們會要求去這個提高他的標準第二個訓後就業你也要給我開拓職缺那當然更重要的就是我們的一個訓員你一定要有就業的意願如果說你沒有訓後不就業的話我們也會做一個記錄將來也會\n這個減少他一個參訓這樣都可以有效的提升我的一個訓後就業率那第二點有關於這個就學我們每一年在領取我的就學補助以後我們會去做一個學後的一個就業追蹤那根據您剛所提到的因為我們調查在今年來講的話他其實未就業的人\n他有一几个目的第一个他可能是因为需要照顾家庭第二个他已经在求职当中第三个他还在准备升学第四个他确实暂时没有这个就业的计划那针对于这些的个案我们其实都有都一百多个而已都散布在我的各个荣福处我们要求他们都会针对这些的个案去进行相关的一个个案的开案的\n一個需求然後持續去追蹤關懷希望他能夠再重新的回到職場以上為什麼我會提到這個問題就是因為這個退出義軍人的就業的問題其實我是擔心因為這個是否會讓青年從軍的意願大打折扣會影響到國軍人力的招募\n因為畢竟退除役軍人的就業率如果他整個後面低落的情況會聯想到想當兵的年輕人可能會擔心就是說萬一他們以後從軍之後然後是不是就沒有辦法後面就是退役後沒有辦法順利的回到職場的問題所以我本來就是想說請主委要好好的了解原因畢竟退伍會是退除役官兵服務和照顧的整個的專責機關謝謝委員的關心跟指導謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.129 --> 00:01.951\n有請嚴主委請嚴主委林委員好主委好首先我先針對退伍會在業務報告裡面中有提到針對這次花蓮發生的馬太安堰澀湖的災害重創了花蓮縣的光復鄉然後你們不但立即鼓勵\n\n00:24.329 --> 00:26.410\n啟動了整個榮民的服務的關懷花蓮榮福處的職員們還有榮興志工都在災害的時候號召夥伴們都前往光復的災區協助進行整個清理的家園退福會也所屬的台北榮總的育理的分院\n\n00:42.742 --> 00:46.184\n也在第一個時間全部投入整個的救災也設立了整個安心小鎮還有醫療站所以守護了我們整個東部的民眾的安全然後本席想藉這次質詢的機會代表花蓮的光復的鄉親向退伍會表達整個感謝謝謝委員希望退伍會未來我們還是持續能夠用心繼續關懷光復鄉和我們花東地區的鄉親會會持續關懷\n\n01:08.419 --> 01:10.780\n接下來就是退友會在花東地區設有一個台東農場目前農場有兩座分場本席今天就是有關台東農場營運的問題想要請教主委台東農場是不是也有提供住宿服務分別是在花蓮分場的壽豐的會館\n\n01:28.524 --> 01:31.066\n還有台東農場位於台東的慈善會館還有東和農莊總共有三個地方根據整個了解花蓮分廠的遊客114年整個上半年的總人數只有200多人為什麼參觀的人數少的可憐為什麼受封會館整個住宿人數都是一直在下降\n\n01:50.663 --> 01:51.924\n還有台東的慈善會館和東河農莊為什麼會停止對外營運為什麼三處的觀光住宿的營運會那麼差有沒有什麼改善的方案\n\n02:02.782 --> 02:30.827\n跟委員報告台東農場那邊的池上會館還有東河農莊他分別在113年4月還有今年的1月委外經營了但是他目前是因為在整建在進行整建的工程要到明年的1月還有到117年1月才會復業所以剛剛委員所提到的他這個業績還有人數比較減少他因為整建期間他是\n\n02:31.607 --> 02:49.547\n暂停营业的暂停营业官网官网也暂时没有揭露所有旅游的资讯那么等到复业之后会同步更新订房跟旅游相关的一些内容那么第二个跟委员报告就花莲寿丰会馆\n\n02:50.348 --> 03:18.099\n因為113年地震所以日式的建築物那邊建築物有一些損壞所以暫停營業也是整修一年那麼今年又受到前面的颱風微波跟華家煞颱風的影響到9月我們累積的遊客是1798個但是我們叫過去也是有衰退的但是因為發展觀光條例限制自營\n\n03:19.099 --> 03:33.977\n那麼由廠商也表達經營的意願為了能夠維持旅宿服務現在由內政部審議都市計劃變更為產業專用區通過之後辦理招商的事宜那麼詳細情形我再請我們事業處處長做補充\n\n03:36.372 --> 03:52.820\n委員好我是事業管理處處長楊長正我們台中農場有三個分廠過去是經營旅宿業是絕對沒有問題的但是因為發展觀光條例的限制現在是條例已經有五年執行了但是我們之前我們就已經委外經營了\n\n03:53.740 --> 04:15.385\n那未來受風會館我們也會朝這個方向去我們希望藉著委外經營吸引民間的力量進來以後可以促進地方的觀光發展我舉個例子譬如說我們的松原別館我們這次參加松原別館參加我們觀光署辦的旅遊景點它就獲得了花東地區跟外島地區的第四名\n\n04:16.165 --> 04:41.805\n這個非常不簡單我親自去那邊看過以後我認為那個是一個歷史建築漂亮很漂亮的歷史建築應該可以恢復原貌就跟我們壽豐會館一樣可能我們自己經營可能是經營會有些限制因素但是引進民間的力量以後應該可以擴大發展它本來就的樣貌去吸引遊客的進駐這是我們的期望謝謝委員\n\n04:44.011 --> 04:47.275\n接下來我還有一個小的問題想要請教就是像台東農場這樣有沒有什麼重大機密需要保密的問題因為主委你知道嗎為什麼本席要這樣問因為本席在上網瀏覽台東農場的官方的網站上面有發現他的組織整個架構上面為什麼連廠長\n\n05:03.613 --> 05:17.400\n還有副廠長的名字都不能公開都還要整個遮蔽呢就連我們退伍會的本會的我們的局處首長包括正副主委你們的名字都是光明正大的揭露在官網上面啊那為什麼台東農場會有不敢揭露名字的問題呢\n\n05:25.501 --> 05:33.834\n謝謝委員指正這個我還不是很了解我想說是不是有什麼重大機密需要保密呢沒有沒有沒有我們下期再做了解\n\n05:35.376 --> 05:58.696\n所以其實退伍會的農場其實剛才我們大家也講了嘛都是辛苦的農民流汗打拼出來的所以在農產品上面旅遊上面真的是要好好的經營阿本席也期待退伍會會針對台東農場這些提出更有效能還有真正能為花東地區帶來觀光效應的好地方這樣才不枉費納稅人的託付可以嗎是是謝謝委員知道\n\n06:01.255 --> 06:04.478\n接下來我想要針對退除役人員培訓與就業的問題想要請教主委退伍會長期以來都伴有退除役官兵職業的整個訓練的計畫然後111年到113年的職業訓練中有自辦和委外職訓人員參訓後就業率是88%然後委外訓練的就業率是75%\n\n06:25.479 --> 06:28.021\n主委根據整個統計的資料我們來顯示我們來看為什麼退除役人員委外的就業訓練就業率就一直都不是很高成效也沒有辦法提升照理講一般委外的訓練的單位應該要更專業才對啊\n\n06:42.151 --> 06:47.677\n所以還有我還有一個就是說根據退伍會有關的繼續追蹤受訓者整個的在職的情況辦理情形資料上面也有顯示112年本來就是原有260個人沒有就業但是在接受輔導之後還有140個人沒有就業\n\n07:01.593 --> 07:05.715\n113年原有234個人沒有就業接受輔導之後仍然有149個人在待業中也就是說113年就業的人數竟然只有85個那我想請問主委為什麼接受輔導之後還是仍有那麼多將近過半的退役人員都沒有就業呢光是這些退役人員根本\n\n07:25.862 --> 07:27.944\n是沒有辦法就業沒有這些就業的需要呢還是他們回歸職場整個的適應不良還是我們的輔導是效果是有限呢報告委員我請就業處處長跟您說明一下\n\n07:39.232 --> 07:45.313\n我也好我是就業處處長跟您檢要報告第一點就有關於培訓的部分因為我們的委外訓練是招收這個有業無業的人而且他是以培養第二專長或者閒熟技能為主要的目的那他因為委外訓練我們是在北中南來開辦雖然是公開招標但是這些委外的這些訓練機構都是合法的但是他的資源或者一個規模大小都比不上我的執訓中心\n\n08:07.677 --> 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