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00:00:01,112\n跟經濟部的拱部長拱部長還有莊部長有請\n\n2\n00:00:08,079 --> 00:00:33,097\n先請到兩位部長其實這個面對國際的變局強化我們相關的韌性包括我們的經濟的基礎等等這個我認為是我們應該大力支持我想這個預算全力支持那也希望我們妥善的來執行達到一個好的成效不管是在面對國際的情勢或者是我們國家的一些安全等等這些工作\n\n3\n00:00:33,897 --> 00:00:55,658\n那但是裡面其實有牽涉到幾些面向首先我第一個要問一下經濟部長他這個關稅的衝擊其實對產產來說有相當大的一個影響特別是高雄在金屬扣件的部分有相當大的一個影響的部分那我知道部長有下去跟這些扣金業者有溝通過了部長有沒有什麼樣一些方案可以來協助業者的部分\n\n4\n00:00:56,620 --> 00:01:15,691\n我想就是我們現在整個預算的分布有三大部分一個是金融上的協助金融上的協助大概我們再次強調宇天是不會收場可以展延有金融的支持金融支持第二個是轉型升級上的支持\n\n5\n00:01:16,651 --> 00:01:40,018\n轉型商的資質我們會有輔導團下去看到底需要怎麼做轉型AI導入怎麼導入讓他升級轉型那第三個就是拓展多元市場他們在海外參展我們會給補助跟甚至於設置台灣館給他們協助但是那個扣件他還有另外的就是扣件如果他們可以在特殊領域獲得認證的話\n\n6\n00:01:41,238 --> 00:02:05,283\n事實上它價格是非常好的比如說它專業用在汽車上或航太上或特殊用途上那我想這個是比較特殊的那這個部分我們會看看輔導團也會協助他們強化這個可以讓他們可以我希望部長要加強這個力道好不好特別是中南部的中小企業特別是扣建產業在這一塊受到相當大的一些影響我希望能夠整個部長能夠加重這一塊的力道是\n\n7\n00:02:08,564 --> 00:02:26,444\n特别是在整个里面我们有一些知识产业的一些预算我也希望能够有效的用在这些刀口上给这些扣金业者中小企业给他们更多的支持因为他们影响到很多的一些家庭也影响到很多的一些整个南部的企业的发展我希望部长再加强这样的力道是会\n\n8\n00:02:27,385 --> 00:02:56,378\n那接下來我也請教一下這個研發的比例這個部分其實我認為都要持續增加特別是在傳產的這個部分所以我也希望這一塊部長在未來能夠持續的加重就是說我們現在當然不管是從半導體產業或其他的甚至AI產業我們都努力在但是對於傳統產業對於這些基礎產業其實它是國家的很重要的一些產業但是他們的研發其實我認為還是要持續的加重我也希望\n\n9\n00:02:57,559 --> 00:03:09,656\n經濟部政府這邊能夠持續有更多的一些政策手段來協助他們的研發的升級讓他們未來更具有競爭力這部長要不要講一下對因為所以我們會已經開始組這個輔導團這個輔導團是產官學院所組成的\n\n10\n00:03:13,041 --> 00:03:32,081\n那會下到這個企業端去看看他剛剛提到的他研發要走哪一個方向AI導入要怎麼導入不是啊我希望有一些具體的方案出來了好不好更具體的這個會後再提供給我了好不好完整的一些具體方案來協助中小企業協助傳統產業的部分的升級的部分好不好\n\n11\n00:03:33,042 --> 00:04:01,324\n接下來我問一下輝達在台北的這個部分其實高雄也努力在爭取高雄包括亞灣的智慧科技創新園區包括輝達AMD也都在高雄有投資了高雄其實是很好的一個地點當然輝達有他的一些考量部長有沒有機會未來如果確實不一定在台北能夠的話高雄是一個適合地點有沒有可能用政府的力量協助這個業界有機會到高雄來設置他這個總部\n\n12\n00:04:02,835 --> 00:04:23,374\n我想輝達當然是有他自己的考量現在他當然還在關心的就是北市科這塊地但是據我們了解輝達也跟我們表示說他也不排除其他的地方不排除其他地方也不排除高雄但是總是\n\n13\n00:04:24,875 --> 00:04:37,161\n到台灣來設立總部也好研發中心也好不會只有NVIDIA一家而已還有其他的很多很多的一些企業那我們都歡迎也希望到部長高雄有沒有機會爭取到輝達的總部在高雄進駐\n\n14\n00:04:38,554 --> 00:04:58,054\n這個可能要NVIDIA對我的意思是說我還是希望政府能夠在均衡發展上面以前的時候在這些高雄其實是不太有機會但這幾年其實惠達AMD也在高雄陸續有一些投資了AI產業也在高雄陸續投資我們也希望政府有時候加一些力道\n\n15\n00:04:58,815 --> 00:05:20,219\n不是只有台北才是唯一的選擇其實高雄在這方面也做了很多不管是人力土地或者是相關的水電都做好了充足的準備的時候我們認為有時候適度的跟業者溝通往高雄去移動其實是一個很好的選擇區域均衡發展很好的選擇現在已經是進行式的最先進的半導體的製程已經到高雄去了\n\n16\n00:05:20,299 --> 00:05:44,545\n我們希望有一些大型國際的大型的這些平台業者事實上也進駐到高雄我們希望再繼續努力了好不好輝達有機會能夠進到高雄對高雄絕對是一大重大的一個鼓勵最後一個我問一下財政財政部長彩化法的部分其實這個過去提出來這個版本我認為對北部縱北清南縱南清綠其實非常不公平的那這個部分\n\n17\n00:05:45,505 --> 00:06:10,638\n財政部會提出財政法的修法版本我已經提出來了啦財政部會提出修法的版本嗎讓這些不公不義的一些法案重新再回到合理的一個狀態是的財政部已經召集地方政府以及相關中央機關召開三次會議那我們會在廣徵各界意見以後再來討論部長什麼時候會提出來因為如果依照現行的版本對中南部的縣市真的很不公平對現在的水平分配確實有很大的一個問題因為造成城鄉差距更為拉大所以這個部分我們\n\n18\n00:06:13,860 --> 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土地或者是相關的水電都做好了充足的準備的時候我們認為有時候適度的跟業者溝通往高雄去移動其實是一個很好的選擇區域均衡發展很好的選擇現在已經是進行式的最先進的半導體的製程已經到高雄去了\n320299\t344545\t我們希望有一些大型國際的大型的這些平台業者事實上也進駐到高雄我們希望再繼續努力了好不好輝達有機會能夠進到高雄對高雄絕對是一大重大的一個鼓勵最後一個我問一下財政財政部長彩化法的部分其實這個過去提出來這個版本我認為對北部縱北清南縱南清綠其實非常不公平的那這個部分\n345505\t370638\t財政部會提出財政法的修法版本我已經提出來了啦財政部會提出修法的版本嗎讓這些不公不義的一些法案重新再回到合理的一個狀態是的 財政部已經召集地方政府以及相關中央機關召開三次會議那我們會在廣徵各界意見以後再來討論部長什麼時候會提出來因為如果依照現行的版本對中南部的縣市真的很不公平對 現在的水平分配確實有很大的一個問題因為造成城鄉差距更為拉大所以這個部分我們\n373860\t390026\t不管有沒有目標什麼時間至少提出一個版本出來這個部分我們會持續的爭相關的意見然後跟內政院一起做我希望未來要整體的思考啦不要讓國家傾斜的更嚴重啦如果持續的縱北傾南的話這對國家整體發展是不好的謝謝謝謝謝謝賴日榮委員謝謝接下來請羅明財委員\n","txt":"跟經濟部的拱部長拱部長還有莊部長有請\n先請到兩位部長其實這個面對國際的變局強化我們相關的韌性包括我們的經濟的基礎等等這個我認為是我們應該大力支持我想這個預算全力支持那也希望我們妥善的來執行達到一個好的成效不管是在面對國際的情勢或者是我們國家的一些安全等等這些工作\n那但是裡面其實有牽涉到幾些面向首先我第一個要問一下經濟部長他這個關稅的衝擊其實對產產來說有相當大的一個影響特別是高雄在金屬扣件的部分有相當大的一個影響的部分那我知道部長有下去跟這些扣金業者有溝通過了部長有沒有什麼樣一些方案可以來協助業者的部分\n我想就是我們現在整個預算的分布有三大部分一個是金融上的協助金融上的協助大概我們再次強調宇天是不會收場可以展延有金融的支持金融支持第二個是轉型升級上的支持\n轉型商的資質我們會有輔導團下去看到底需要怎麼做轉型AI導入怎麼導入讓他升級轉型那第三個就是拓展多元市場他們在海外參展我們會給補助跟甚至於設置台灣館給他們協助但是那個扣件他還有另外的就是扣件如果他們可以在特殊領域獲得認證的話\n事實上它價格是非常好的比如說它專業用在汽車上或航太上或特殊用途上那我想這個是比較特殊的那這個部分我們會看看輔導團也會協助他們強化這個可以讓他們可以我希望部長要加強這個力道好不好特別是中南部的中小企業特別是扣建產業在這一塊受到相當大的一些影響我希望能夠整個部長能夠加重這一塊的力道是\n特别是在整个里面我们有一些知识产业的一些预算我也希望能够有效的用在这些刀口上给这些扣金业者中小企业给他们更多的支持因为他们影响到很多的一些家庭也影响到很多的一些整个南部的企业的发展我希望部长再加强这样的力道是 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