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00:03:04,029\n跟委員報告一下確實就是說因為省道的部分有很多是山區的一個這個道路啦那山區道路的一個這一個部分的話裡面包括這一個這個復興山區這邊的話都是在這個優先關注的一個邊坡這是因為山區的道路所以需要公路局特別的關注那針對這個台七線33K處有沒有把它列入優先的關注邊坡呢\n\n9\n00:03:04,695 --> 00:03:10,472\n有有有在32.5K那局長您本身有沒有掌握這一次的災害\n\n10\n00:03:12,348 --> 00:03:40,039\n跟委員報告這個比較抱歉因為這次的部分的話我是比較優先放在這一個南部那個地方這個台七一這個地方我會找個時間去看一下因為光是這一段他就花了七十七個小時來做搶頭難道不嚴重嗎局長這個非常嚴重只要有阻斷的部分對公務局來講都是這一個非常嚴重的事情所以他本身要給予就是公路局復興公務段的第一線同仁高度的肯定可是局長你顯然就是沒有掌握狀況\n\n11\n00:03:42,140 --> 00:04:08,009\n跟這個這個委員報告一下啦我們組長這個也第一時間也有到啦那相關的一個部分的話因為只要這個相關就是颱風來或者是比較豪大雨的這個部分的話那這個我們省道山區道路這個相關受損害的這個可能會比較廣一點啦所以本席也有留意到工作局有推動這個省道邊坡的地貓功能檢測分級還有他的設施補強計畫\n\n12\n00:04:09,389 --> 00:04:18,778\n那他的目的是在於強化系統韌性那目前從地方的現況來看局長您知道地方目前都是採取什麼樣的方式來做處理嗎這個比較細的技術部分我可不可以請我們組長來說明一下請組長說明\n\n13\n00:04:27,606 --> 00:04:46,327\n跟委員報告目前台西縣的優先關注邊坡有兩處一個是32.5K的一個龍華路段另外一個是在49K大曼路段這個部分都是我們有在做關注每季都有去做監測地毛的部分我們每四年都會做評估檢測如果對於地毛的功能有喪失的部分我們會立刻做補強\n\n14\n00:04:47,088 --> 00:05:14,358\n那今年度在台七縣的這個地貓檢測的部分這本期看到你們的改善提出的改善方式是停留在噴漿還有臨時護欄短期的處理方式你認為這樣子可以真的來改善問題的根源嗎我跟委員報告那個33K龍華這個邊坡它落實的部分第一時間我們到前面到現場成立前進指揮說我就在現場當前進指揮官那對於那個邊坡的部分它是屬於岩石裂解它的岩石強度非常\n\n15\n00:05:15,238 --> 00:05:37,764\n非常非常強所以打那個大使打了三天那這個在未來的修復我們現在是採所謂的用這個鹽酸去做加固那我們也找了專家會議針對他的鹽質裂解的解理我們去做這個分析跟地質專探然後我們會去做鹽盤的加固所以目前只是做初步的一個搶修維持通行\n\n16\n00:05:38,084 --> 00:05:59,786\n部長那本席建議交通部應該比照中橫的做法目前中橫的做法呢它在像是在台七線它高風險的這樣子的路段嘛它有建立一個完整的地質監測系統那它也有裝設即時崩塌的測儀器那包括結合氣象資料然後還有做到預警式的管理那您是否願意來支持台七線也比照中橫的做法\n\n17\n00:06:00,286 --> 00:06:18,801\n報告委員台積線我們應該也有這方面的設置只是說委員在提醒的這個路段或許他的強固性還不夠我們優先先做搶災跟搶通那接下來我們當然先讓他通行長時間的防災跟強固的部分我們也會持續來做這個部分我們一定會把它做好\n\n18\n00:06:19,221 --> 00:06:34,544\n是先要提醒部長目前的經費大多數他是屬於零休的享休零四零三地震之後呢台八台九線都有改善的預算可是唯獨台七線他沒有長期的規沒有長期的改善計畫那這一部分交通部要如何來協助呢\n\n19\n00:06:36,588 --> 00:06:58,903\n跟委員報告一下台西的這個部分的話我們會請這個北分局再來做這個檢討那因為原則上在北分局的這個區域裡面的話就是這一段基本上也是屬於高風險的一個這一個是局長本身希望不只來做檢討希望可以把復興區也納入全國編播房在改善計畫的優先區局長能做到嗎\n\n20\n00:06:59,563 --> 00:07:25,822\n可以可以可以OK那關於編列預算還有規劃的長還有長期的他的這個規劃那也請公路局研議他編播的整治是否可以在該路段設置一個明隧道然後還有還有除了明隧道之外還有其他長期的效益來改善我們該地區的防護措施就為了確保民眾然後還有我們的遊客在走台七線北橫公路的話可以更安全\n\n21\n00:07:26,582 --> 00:07:46,196\n跟委員報告目前是採用長髮距這個橋的部分來避災啦那剛剛委員所提的部分的話對於剛剛這個剛剛部長有提到就是說這些相關災損路段的部分的話基本上都必須要有短縱長期的這個部分那委員所提的這個建議的部分我們把他納入這個有關這個民隧道大概需要多長的時間\n\n22\n00:07:47,537 --> 00:08:04,691\n我們現在是做長垮距的這個橋來做避災啦有幾種方式長垮距的橋是一種方式民隧道是一種方式那我請工程單位去研析就是說什麼樣的方式最適合當地的狀況我們來盡量做避災的動作是需要多長時間公路局我們三個月再先跟委員報告一下\n\n23\n00:08:09,727 --> 00:08:22,760\nOK那也請部長全力協助因為這條也是我們復興區民眾的命脈因為不管是他們每天上上下課或是上班下班或是就醫都是走這條路那請部長全力協助沒問題謝謝好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3260\t10372\t謝謝主席 請交通部陳部長 公路局林局長請陳部長請公路局林福山局長\n22715\t43036\t部長十月是連續假期比較多的月份那國人不管是出遊還是返鄉啊各地的交通壓力也隨之提高那連假期間的疏運那都會直接影響就是民眾的行車安全然後還有便利那除了國道還有主要幹線的疏導那本席也要請部長我們一起共同來關心偏遠還有山區路段的安全維護\n44057\t68262\t那我們看到桃園復興區台七線它是主要的連外道路可是它長期都存在著攤房的風險那對我們地方而言呢道路順暢跟安全維護同樣重要因為像是台七線還有山區路端它一旦攤房了還是中斷了就會影響居民然後也會影響遊客那尤其台七線它沿線非常多的觀光景點\n69082\t96545\t那在今年的8月21號台七線33公里處華龍路段它發生大規模的探訪那一瞬間它造成雙向的道路都沒有辦法通行那當時復興公務段也在第一時間進行搶通那廢時了 經過了77小時的搶修那也耗時了三天那我們看到8月24號它開放了通車那經過持續的觀察邊坡還是不穩定 還是有落石那對用路的安全威脅也不小\n97205\t114839\t那今天要針對復興區的邊坡道路安全救教部長復興區他的交通相對不是那麼便利那他也是原鄉那他也多年來就是不時都會發生癱瘓那沒風好雨或是颱風居民最擔心的就是道路又被中斷了那\n115620\t144008\t去年交通部5月份的時候也有像在委員會也有像也有報告也有提到公路邊坡的安全管理採多項的措施那像是運用遙測的技術還有邊坡分級的管理嘛全國列管1708處並劃設45處的優先關注邊坡那每年汛期之前呢也會針對高風險的邊坡進行一次無人機的巡檢那也設置了16處的落實警訊的警告信頭\n144628\t155065\t那完成978處的C級以上邊波總體檢測這些措施看起來相當的完整那想要請問部長還有局長那為什麼復興區的邊波問題還是頻繁的發生\n158942\t184029\t跟委員報告一下確實就是說因為省道的部分有很多是山區的一個這個道路啦那山區道路的一個這一個部分的話裡面包括這一個這個復興山區這邊的話都是在這個優先關注的一個邊坡這是因為山區的道路所以需要公路局特別的關注那針對這個台七線33K處有沒有把它列入優先的關注邊坡呢\n184695\t190472\t有有有在32.5K那局長您本身有沒有掌握這一次的災害\n192348\t220039\t跟委員報告這個比較抱歉因為這次的部分的話我是比較優先放在這一個南部那個地方這個台七一這個地方我會找個時間去看一下因為光是這一段他就花了七十七個小時來做搶頭難道不嚴重嗎 局長這個非常嚴重只要有阻斷的部分對公務局來講都是這一個非常嚴重的事情所以他本身要給予就是公路局復興公務段的第一線同仁高度的肯定可是局長你顯然就是沒有掌握狀況\n222140\t248009\t跟這個這個委員報告一下啦我們組長這個也第一時間也有到啦那相關的一個部分的話因為只要這個相關就是颱風來或者是比較豪大雨的這個部分的話那這個我們省道山區道路這個相關受損害的這個可能會比較廣一點啦所以本席也有留意到工作局有推動這個省道邊坡的地貓功能檢測分級還有他的設施補強計畫\n249389\t258778\t那他的目的是在於強化系統韌性那目前從地方的現況來看局長您知道地方目前都是採取什麼樣的方式來做處理嗎這個比較細的技術部分我可不可以請我們組長來說明一下請組長說明\n267606\t286327\t跟委員報告目前台西縣的優先關注邊坡有兩處一個是32.5K的一個龍華路段另外一個是在49K大曼路段這個部分都是我們有在做關注每季都有去做監測地毛的部分我們每四年都會做評估檢測如果對於地毛的功能有喪失的部分我們會立刻做補強\n287088\t314358\t那今年度在台七縣的這個地貓檢測的部分這本期看到你們的改善提出的改善方式是停留在噴漿還有臨時護欄短期的處理方式你認為這樣子可以真的來改善問題的根源嗎我跟委員報告那個33K龍華這個邊坡它落實的部分第一時間我們到前面到現場成立前進指揮說我就在現場當前進指揮官那對於那個邊坡的部分它是屬於岩石裂解它的岩石強度非常\n315238\t337764\t非常非常強所以打那個大使打了三天那這個在未來的修復我們現在是採所謂的用這個鹽酸去做加固那我們也找了專家會議針對他的鹽質裂解的解理我們去做這個分析跟地質專探然後我們會去做鹽盤的加固所以目前只是做初步的一個搶修維持通行\n338084\t359786\t部長 那本席建議交通部應該比照中橫的做法 目前中橫的做法呢 它在像是在台七線它高風險的這樣子的路段嘛 它有建立一個完整的地質監測系統那它也有裝設即時崩塌的測儀器 那包括結合氣象資料 然後還有做到預警式的管理那您是否願意來支持台七線也比照中橫的做法\n360286\t378801\t報告委員台積線我們應該也有這方面的設置只是說委員在提醒的這個路段或許他的強固性還不夠我們優先先做搶災跟搶通那接下來我們當然先讓他通行長時間的防災跟強固的部分我們也會持續來做這個部分我們一定會把它做好\n379221\t394544\t是 先要提醒部長 目前的經費大多數他是屬於零休的享休零四零三地震之後呢台八台九線都有改善的預算可是唯獨台七線他沒有長期的規沒有長期的改善計畫那這一部分交通部要如何來協助呢\n396588\t418903\t跟委員報告一下台西的這個部分的話我們會請這個北分局再來做這個檢討那因為原則上在北分局的這個區域裡面的話就是這一段基本上也是屬於高風險的一個這一個是局長本身希望不只來做檢討希望可以把復興區也納入全國編播房在改善計畫的優先區局長能做到嗎\n419563\t445822\t可以可以可以 OK那關於編列預算還有規劃的長還有長期的他的這個規劃那也請公路局研議他編播的整治是否可以在該路段設置一個明隧道然後還有還有除了明隧道之外還有其他長期的效益來改善我們該地區的防護措施就為了確保民眾然後還有我們的遊客在走台七線北橫公路的話可以更安全\n446582\t466196\t跟委員報告目前是採用長髮距這個橋的部分來避災啦那剛剛委員所提的部分的話對於剛剛這個剛剛部長有提到就是說這些相關災損路段的部分的話基本上都必須要有短縱長期的這個部分那委員所提的這個建議的部分我們把他納入這個有關這個民隧道大概需要多長的時間\n467537\t484691\t我們現在是做長垮距的這個橋來做避災啦有幾種方式長垮距的橋是一種方式民隧道是一種方式那我請工程單位去研析就是說什麼樣的方式最適合當地的狀況我們來盡量做避災的動作是需要多長時間公路局我們三個月再先跟委員報告一下\n489727\t502760\tOK 那也請部長全力協助 因為這條也是我們復興區民眾的命脈 因為不管是他們每天上上下課或是上班下班或是就醫都是走這條路 那請部長全力協助沒問題 謝謝好 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席 請交通部陳部長 公路局林局長請陳部長請公路局林福山局長\n部長十月是連續假期比較多的月份那國人不管是出遊還是返鄉啊各地的交通壓力也隨之提高那連假期間的疏運那都會直接影響就是民眾的行車安全然後還有便利那除了國道還有主要幹線的疏導那本席也要請部長我們一起共同來關心偏遠還有山區路段的安全維護\n那我們看到桃園復興區台七線它是主要的連外道路可是它長期都存在著攤房的風險那對我們地方而言呢道路順暢跟安全維護同樣重要因為像是台七線還有山區路端它一旦攤房了還是中斷了就會影響居民然後也會影響遊客那尤其台七線它沿線非常多的觀光景點\n那在今年的8月21號台七線33公里處華龍路段它發生大規模的探訪那一瞬間它造成雙向的道路都沒有辦法通行那當時復興公務段也在第一時間進行搶通那廢時了 經過了77小時的搶修那也耗時了三天那我們看到8月24號它開放了通車那經過持續的觀察邊坡還是不穩定 還是有落石那對用路的安全威脅也不小\n那今天要針對復興區的邊坡道路安全救教部長復興區他的交通相對不是那麼便利那他也是原鄉那他也多年來就是不時都會發生癱瘓那沒風好雨或是颱風居民最擔心的就是道路又被中斷了那\n去年交通部5月份的時候也有像在委員會也有像也有報告也有提到公路邊坡的安全管理採多項的措施那像是運用遙測的技術還有邊坡分級的管理嘛全國列管1708處並劃設45處的優先關注邊坡那每年汛期之前呢也會針對高風險的邊坡進行一次無人機的巡檢那也設置了16處的落實警訊的警告信頭\n那完成978處的C級以上邊波總體檢測這些措施看起來相當的完整那想要請問部長還有局長那為什麼復興區的邊波問題還是頻繁的發生\n跟委員報告一下確實就是說因為省道的部分有很多是山區的一個這個道路啦那山區道路的一個這一個部分的話裡面包括這一個這個復興山區這邊的話都是在這個優先關注的一個邊坡這是因為山區的道路所以需要公路局特別的關注那針對這個台七線33K處有沒有把它列入優先的關注邊坡呢\n有有有在32.5K那局長您本身有沒有掌握這一次的災害\n跟委員報告這個比較抱歉因為這次的部分的話我是比較優先放在這一個南部那個地方這個台七一這個地方我會找個時間去看一下因為光是這一段他就花了七十七個小時來做搶頭難道不嚴重嗎 局長這個非常嚴重只要有阻斷的部分對公務局來講都是這一個非常嚴重的事情所以他本身要給予就是公路局復興公務段的第一線同仁高度的肯定可是局長你顯然就是沒有掌握狀況\n跟這個這個委員報告一下啦我們組長這個也第一時間也有到啦那相關的一個部分的話因為只要這個相關就是颱風來或者是比較豪大雨的這個部分的話那這個我們省道山區道路這個相關受損害的這個可能會比較廣一點啦所以本席也有留意到工作局有推動這個省道邊坡的地貓功能檢測分級還有他的設施補強計畫\n那他的目的是在於強化系統韌性那目前從地方的現況來看局長您知道地方目前都是採取什麼樣的方式來做處理嗎這個比較細的技術部分我可不可以請我們組長來說明一下請組長說明\n跟委員報告目前台西縣的優先關注邊坡有兩處一個是32.5K的一個龍華路段另外一個是在49K大曼路段這個部分都是我們有在做關注每季都有去做監測地毛的部分我們每四年都會做評估檢測如果對於地毛的功能有喪失的部分我們會立刻做補強\n那今年度在台七縣的這個地貓檢測的部分這本期看到你們的改善提出的改善方式是停留在噴漿還有臨時護欄短期的處理方式你認為這樣子可以真的來改善問題的根源嗎我跟委員報告那個33K龍華這個邊坡它落實的部分第一時間我們到前面到現場成立前進指揮說我就在現場當前進指揮官那對於那個邊坡的部分它是屬於岩石裂解它的岩石強度非常\n非常非常強所以打那個大使打了三天那這個在未來的修復我們現在是採所謂的用這個鹽酸去做加固那我們也找了專家會議針對他的鹽質裂解的解理我們去做這個分析跟地質專探然後我們會去做鹽盤的加固所以目前只是做初步的一個搶修維持通行\n部長 那本席建議交通部應該比照中橫的做法 目前中橫的做法呢 它在像是在台七線它高風險的這樣子的路段嘛 它有建立一個完整的地質監測系統那它也有裝設即時崩塌的測儀器 那包括結合氣象資料 然後還有做到預警式的管理那您是否願意來支持台七線也比照中橫的做法\n報告委員台積線我們應該也有這方面的設置只是說委員在提醒的這個路段或許他的強固性還不夠我們優先先做搶災跟搶通那接下來我們當然先讓他通行長時間的防災跟強固的部分我們也會持續來做這個部分我們一定會把它做好\n是 先要提醒部長 目前的經費大多數他是屬於零休的享休零四零三地震之後呢台八台九線都有改善的預算可是唯獨台七線他沒有長期的規沒有長期的改善計畫那這一部分交通部要如何來協助呢\n跟委員報告一下台西的這個部分的話我們會請這個北分局再來做這個檢討那因為原則上在北分局的這個區域裡面的話就是這一段基本上也是屬於高風險的一個這一個是局長本身希望不只來做檢討希望可以把復興區也納入全國編播房在改善計畫的優先區局長能做到嗎\n可以可以可以 OK那關於編列預算還有規劃的長還有長期的他的這個規劃那也請公路局研議他編播的整治是否可以在該路段設置一個明隧道然後還有還有除了明隧道之外還有其他長期的效益來改善我們該地區的防護措施就為了確保民眾然後還有我們的遊客在走台七線北橫公路的話可以更安全\n跟委員報告目前是採用長髮距這個橋的部分來避災啦那剛剛委員所提的部分的話對於剛剛這個剛剛部長有提到就是說這些相關災損路段的部分的話基本上都必須要有短縱長期的這個部分那委員所提的這個建議的部分我們把他納入這個有關這個民隧道大概需要多長的時間\n我們現在是做長垮距的這個橋來做避災啦有幾種方式長垮距的橋是一種方式民隧道是一種方式那我請工程單位去研析就是說什麼樣的方式最適合當地的狀況我們來盡量做避災的動作是需要多長時間公路局我們三個月再先跟委員報告一下\nOK 那也請部長全力協助 因為這條也是我們復興區民眾的命脈 因為不管是他們每天上上下課或是上班下班或是就醫都是走這條路 那請部長全力協助沒問題 謝謝好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.260 --> 00:10.372\n謝謝主席請交通部陳部長公路局林局長請陳部長請公路局林福山局長\n\n00:22.715 --> 00:43.036\n部長十月是連續假期比較多的月份那國人不管是出遊還是返鄉啊各地的交通壓力也隨之提高那連假期間的疏運那都會直接影響就是民眾的行車安全然後還有便利那除了國道還有主要幹線的疏導那本席也要請部長我們一起共同來關心偏遠還有山區路段的安全維護\n\n00:44.057 --> 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