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00:01:47,178\n管制的措施也都差不多那我希望能夠加強的就是說我們公共運輸看可不可以再做更多一點例如說國道客運的部分希望鼓勵大家能夠搭乘國道客運這是一方面二方面針對這個智慧移控的部分因為我覺得智慧移控可能要搭配大數據\n\n6\n00:01:48,318 --> 00:02:12,475\n那我們怎麼讓他搭起來之後更精準那當然塞車的部分坦白講以目前國道五號的狀態只要車一多其實就會有塞車的狀況那我們只能希望說在國道五號上面的塞車的時間能夠減少希望車型速度能夠加快所以智慧移控的部分我們會再更加強讓他更智慧那另外就是公共運輸的部分我們盡量來努力那再來就是說\n\n7\n00:02:13,355 --> 00:02:28,050\n我們其實只要每次的輸運我們整體的所有的國道的這個只要遇到不管是事故或者是災害的時候我們排除的這個人力跟機具其實我們都做足準備希望能夠降低那個\n\n8\n00:02:30,535 --> 00:02:50,885\n塞車的時間或者事故排除的時間這個部分我們都有在處理好那還是請我們交通部對於公共運輸量能的這個方面還有轉成的成效應該來想看看有什麼方式包括公共運輸我們是不是可以提供更多的這個誘因讓民眾願意去搭乘這個\n\n9\n00:02:52,526 --> 00:03:22,406\n比如說大眾的交通運輸工具讓他們減少車輛上國道5號的話應該這個問題就會比較能夠減緩一些是我們在很多的路線其實都有八五折國道客運八五折中秋有六折這次中秋我們是打到六折我們希望鼓勵大眾盡量能夠搭乘公共運輸跟國道的客運的方面希望能夠鼓勵未來長期來看我們還是還會推出TPAS2.0的Plus版\n\n10\n00:03:23,086 --> 00:03:41,040\n不過宜蘭很像還沒有到70公里有到70公里嗎東部的國道我們也納入了我們本來是70公里嘛例如說那個距離大概是台北到新竹啦但是我們把東部也納入也就是說未來只要願意搭乘這樣子的國道客運我們都會有15%到30%的這個回饋的金額鼓勵大家\n\n11\n00:03:44,463 --> 00:03:59,153\n好那另外就是針對我們國道5號的部分我們擁塞的情形我想請教一下我們高工局或是部長這邊有沒有什麼替代的方案比較能夠這個即時性的來解決\n\n12\n00:03:59,733 --> 00:04:22,069\n有没有可能跟委员报告因为我们现在大概就是说从这个大数据跟AI上面其实都先预测像这种廉价期间在哪些路段跟时段像国五就是说哪些路段哪些的时段它国五会拥塞所以我们都提早就是说在我们的1968APP先预告\n\n13\n00:04:23,750 --> 00:04:36,505\n讓這個用路者他可以先安排他的相關的時間因為如果說同一時間擠到國五我想一定是塞所以我們是透過時間跟空間做一些分流分流對那另外就是說從其實\n\n14\n00:04:37,866 --> 00:05:05,228\n假期的時候從時定跟平齡其實在這個連假的前兩天上午時段其實他都有做閘道的封閉讓這一個要到宜蘭的方向的車流量能夠更順暢那收假的時候其實包括這個閘道的一個移控跟高乘載其實都在處理那我們現在是多提醒就是包括就是這一個把時間空間錯開另外多使用這個國道客運小客車能夠減量\n\n15\n00:05:06,169 --> 00:05:29,055\n然後像部長說的事故的排除其實我們在隧道已經用AI直接辨識直接知道它發生的地點那事故班會把縮短那個事故處理的時間那這樣擁塞就可以降低好那針對這個台六二延伸宜蘭的部分遲遲未核定我想這個部分我們大概什麼時間可以有一個比較明確的一個答案\n\n16\n00:05:29,215 --> 00:05:53,018\n報告委員我們目前台六二的可行性研究已經送到行政院那國發會的報告書也送到行政院了已經報院了那我們在等院的核定那我們也會盡量來拜託行政院這邊能夠快速來核定好這個部分請部長跟我們局長這部分再繼續追蹤那另外要解決我們西南宜蘭的西南的一個這個交通瓶頸\n\n17\n00:05:54,158 --> 00:06:16,044\n我覺得最主要的原因可能我們現在目前在爭取中的這個東山交流道東山交流道那東山交流道如果建置完整之後可能對於這個西南的一個交通瓶頸可能會有一個這個舒緩的情形那另外就是國道5號銜接蘇花改的部分我現在也都在這個\n\n18\n00:06:17,884 --> 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不好意思連續假日\n對於全國的一個交通路網來看當然對我們交通部來講是一個非常嚴峻的一個考驗那在整個過程裡面\n我們剛剛部長也有講可能最近的這一個月內會有連續四個這個連續假期的這個高通型的一個過程那也是在考驗我們交通部那在這個中秋節剛過看到這個在結束的那一天收假的那一天全國\n全國的國道可能只有這個國道五號只報只報了那對於這個情形我想請教部長就是因應我們這個廉價的問題那國道五號我們相關的這個管制措施的這個方式是怎樣報告委員針對這個廉價我們其實每次廉價都差不多是\n管制的措施也都差不多那我希望能夠加強的就是說我們公共運輸看可不可以再做更多一點例如說國道客運的部分希望鼓勵大家能夠搭乘國道客運這是一方面二方面針對這個智慧移控的部分因為我覺得智慧移控可能要搭配大數據\n那我們怎麼讓他搭起來之後更精準那當然塞車的部分坦白講以目前國道五號的狀態只要車一多其實就會有塞車的狀況那我們只能希望說在國道五號上面的塞車的時間能夠減少希望車型速度能夠加快所以智慧移控的部分我們會再更加強讓他更智慧那另外就是公共運輸的部分我們盡量來努力那再來就是說\n我們其實只要每次的輸運我們整體的所有的國道的這個只要遇到不管是事故或者是災害的時候我們排除的這個人力跟機具其實我們都做足準備希望能夠降低那個\n塞車的時間或者事故排除的時間這個部分我們都有在處理好那還是請我們交通部對於公共運輸量能的這個方面還有轉成的成效應該來想看看有什麼方式包括公共運輸我們是不是可以提供更多的這個誘因讓民眾願意去搭乘這個\n比如說大眾的交通運輸工具讓他們減少車輛上國道5號的話應該這個問題就會比較能夠減緩一些是 我們在很多的路線其實都有八五折國道客運八五折中秋有六折這次中秋我們是打到六折我們希望鼓勵大眾盡量能夠搭乘公共運輸跟國道的客運的方面希望能夠鼓勵未來長期來看我們還是還會推出TPAS 2.0的Plus版\n不過宜蘭很像還沒有到70公里有到70公里嗎東部的國道我們也納入了我們本來是70公里嘛例如說那個距離大概是台北到新竹啦但是我們把東部也納入也就是說未來只要願意搭乘這樣子的國道客運我們都會有15%到30%的這個回饋的金額鼓勵大家\n好 那另外就是針對我們國道5號的部分我們擁塞的情形我想請教一下我們高工局或是部長這邊有沒有什麼替代的方案比較能夠這個即時性的來解決\n有没有可能跟委员报告因为我们现在大概就是说从这个大数据跟AI上面其实都先预测像这种廉价期间在哪些路段跟时段像国五就是说哪些路段哪些的时段它国五会拥塞所以我们都提早就是说在我们的1968APP先预告\n讓這個用路者他可以先安排他的相關的時間因為如果說同一時間擠到國五我想一定是塞所以我們是透過時間跟空間做一些分流分流對 那另外就是說從其實\n假期的時候從時定跟平齡其實在這個連假的前兩天上午時段其實他都有做閘道的封閉讓這一個要到宜蘭的方向的車流量能夠更順暢那收假的時候其實包括這個閘道的一個移控跟高乘載其實都在處理那我們現在是多提醒就是包括就是這一個把時間空間錯開另外多使用這個國道客運小客車能夠減量\n然後像部長說的事故的排除其實我們在隧道已經用AI直接辨識直接知道它發生的地點那事故班會把縮短那個事故處理的時間那這樣擁塞就可以降低好那針對這個台六二延伸宜蘭的部分遲遲未核定我想這個部分我們大概什麼時間可以有一個比較明確的一個答案\n報告委員我們目前台六二的可行性研究已經送到行政院那國發會的報告書也送到行政院了已經報院了那我們在等院的核定那我們也會盡量來拜託行政院這邊能夠快速來核定好這個部分請部長跟我們局長這部分再繼續追蹤那另外要解決我們西南宜蘭的西南的一個這個交通瓶頸\n我覺得最主要的原因可能我們現在目前在爭取中的這個東山交流道東山交流道那東山交流道如果建置完整之後可能對於這個西南的一個交通瓶頸可能會有一個這個舒緩的情形那另外就是國道5號銜接蘇花改的部分我現在也都在這個\n按照期程在進行當中那我希望說未來我們是不是東山交流道的這個相關研議的工程可以跟國道5號銜接蘇花改的部分有一個這個併進的機會有沒有可能因為東山交流道的部分之前高工局已經有做審議了那目前在我們部裡面做審議我們盡量來加快不過另外國道5號銜接蘇花改的部分有沒有辦法併進來我們可能要再做研究吧\n國五銜接蘇花改其實這個部分的話就是說建設計畫的經費行政院也核定了所以我們現在正在做設計那我想就是這個部分的話未來跟這個蘇花安的這個建設計畫的啟程會同步來做完成\n好 我希望我們東山交流道的這個相關騎乘能夠加緊那加快速度看能不能接續跟這個國道銜接5號委員一直在關心這個議題我們交通部這邊審議的速度我們會來加快好 謝謝部長 謝謝局長謝謝委員好 謝謝陳靜雲\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.703 --> 00:27.548\n幸好我早一點來謝謝主席那有請我們陳部長還有我們高工局的我們陳局長陳文瑞局長部長局長午安委員好部長不好意思連續假日\n\n00:28.581 --> 00:38.163\n對於全國的一個交通路網來看當然對我們交通部來講是一個非常嚴峻的一個考驗那在整個過程裡面\n\n00:38.735 --> 01:03.542\n我們剛剛部長也有講可能最近的這一個月內會有連續四個這個連續假期的這個高通型的一個過程那也是在考驗我們交通部那在這個中秋節剛過看到這個在結束的那一天收假的那一天全國\n\n01:05.424 --> 01:28.832\n全國的國道可能只有這個國道五號只報只報了那對於這個情形我想請教部長就是因應我們這個廉價的問題那國道五號我們相關的這個管制措施的這個方式是怎樣報告委員針對這個廉價我們其實每次廉價都差不多是\n\n01:29.352 --> 01:47.178\n管制的措施也都差不多那我希望能夠加強的就是說我們公共運輸看可不可以再做更多一點例如說國道客運的部分希望鼓勵大家能夠搭乘國道客運這是一方面二方面針對這個智慧移控的部分因為我覺得智慧移控可能要搭配大數據\n\n01:48.318 --> 02:12.475\n那我們怎麼讓他搭起來之後更精準那當然塞車的部分坦白講以目前國道五號的狀態只要車一多其實就會有塞車的狀況那我們只能希望說在國道五號上面的塞車的時間能夠減少希望車型速度能夠加快所以智慧移控的部分我們會再更加強讓他更智慧那另外就是公共運輸的部分我們盡量來努力那再來就是說\n\n02:13.355 --> 02:28.050\n我們其實只要每次的輸運我們整體的所有的國道的這個只要遇到不管是事故或者是災害的時候我們排除的這個人力跟機具其實我們都做足準備希望能夠降低那個\n\n02:30.535 --> 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