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00:01:21,344\n不管是吸引新的大學的人才教師的人才或者是產官學合作光是這樣的經費也高達一百億要分為八十跟二十億所以經費算是很多所以我想聽話補充你們具體上要怎麼去運用一百億\n\n5\n00:01:27,449 --> 00:01:41,619\n然後達到了我們所謂未來台灣的企業可以因為我們這一百億讓大學端有培育出更多的人才然後在不同的一個企業的應用上讓他們找到他們愛的人我想要聽聽布丁你要怎麼來操作\n\n6\n00:01:45,892 --> 00:02:00,399\n謝謝委員的關心確實我們現在其實以科技產業那麼的一個興盛我們不僅是大概台城清交連台城基礁在許多理學院工學院的實施都是這一個拼不到的\n\n7\n00:02:00,839 --> 00:02:11,746\n那簡單來講我們會看到整個高等教育人才上的一些這一個世代的一個交替比如說在一百零二年我們看到台灣系系導計畫的時候當時進來的這些電子電機資格資訊的資工的這些的實施大概在\n\n8\n00:02:18,777 --> 00:02:41,700\n十年後至少會退六成我們擔心台灣在未來的產業的支撐力量擔心台灣的人才未來在許多這個有學生讀理學院讀工學院但是我們可能沒有一個足夠好的施施去培養人才包含支撐我們產業的一些力量就是人才不要給斷層嘛所以老師也很重要的嘛\n\n9\n00:02:42,501 --> 00:02:50,206\n企業讓他們導入然後在這個學程的過程讓企業導入也重要所以你們是不是就會成立更多的類似一些學程然後讓企業界去一起來訓練學生這些學生一旦畢業後就可以馬上到這些企業去做就業產官學合作差不多都已經改良了因為我們過去跟委員報告我們過去產業確實在產學合作比較少捐贈去成立一個講座我們希望透過\n\n10\n00:03:12,541 --> 00:03:31,678\n這一個產業為了他也需要人才那麼我們怎麼樣接種產業的一些許多他企業的社會責任包含這一個大學的人才的培育能夠產業也能夠兼正五千一億成立講座這個講座是成立一個基金部長我想要說講座你覺得這樣的火候夠嗎\n\n11\n00:03:37,003 --> 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我想要說講座你覺得這樣的火候夠嗎\n你還不如直接把它進入說好我就是要開類似這樣企業所需要的一個學程學分你直接把這樣把它開出來啊你當用一個講座的也許對學生來說他只是去聽課他不未必是他會列為他學習的\n人才培育包括尖端人才的延攬因為我們現在持平了大學的許多的能量用我們的公務預算持平要支撐一個比較高階的一些研究我們其實希望產業能夠也辦理一定的責任產業加入這個是要的\n但是我更希望的是說因為現在這個產業跟我們過去傳統的過去幾年我們對於所謂我們台灣變成矽的一個產業就是所謂晶圓的一個產業基本上我們都有一些概念可是現在的進步又不一樣了現在AI的時代跳的速度太快了所以可能有一些產業他們現在的一些技術已經在大學端這邊沒有跟上\n如果要讓大學端這邊可以來跟上的話由企業他們直接進入大學去開說我們現在比方說現在有矽光紙的產業現在有所謂AI應用的產業現在有所謂無人機的材料的產業如果我們可以讓大學端跟企業做更好的結盟\n我想這個讓未來培養出來的人都是企業想要的人跟委員報告委員的想法跟我們在這個產業合作事實上是有\n亦許同工也就是說我們看到來自於醫學院的一個人才的model醫學院的教授在醫學院教書但是他臨床裡面他也看診他有兩分的一個薪水一個來自於所謂的醫院一個來自於所謂的大學我們也希望用這樣能夠讓企業的這些尖端人才也來跟大學合作我們有提一個類醫學院的model部長我接下來可能會跟我們嘉義的幾家大學\n可能會跟我們教育部這邊我們來計劃一些方案我覺得現在大學端他們也跟企業也有在談那這個談的希望說未來訓練出來的更多是屬於現在新的AI新的一些科技的一些人才\n那大學有希望做我希望我們教育部又有這個特別預算應該來支持這一塊讓他們要做的時候更加的有資源我想不僅尖端科技在人文社會各個領域裡面的人才我們都樂意在希望在這裡為台灣一個高教人才的勇氣的一個培育跟發展能夠有一個穩定的力量那我想這特別預算教育部的部分我覺得大家會支持就希望未來我們就要好好來做\n這樣好不好謝謝委員好謝謝好謝謝蔡宇委員的諮詢接下來請劉許廷委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.069 --> 00:01.270\n好請教育部正部長好長請委員好部長好\n\n00:24.008 --> 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