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00:02:29,838\n讓台灣成為亞洲資產管理中心它有什麼實際的意義我有點看不太懂請教一下主委是我想跟委員報告這只是我們16項計畫其中一個叫地方資產管理專區我們整個亞洲資產管理中心涵蓋各個行業這個主要的是希望針對我們的銀行業來設計結合了證券投資這只是其中計畫之一這不是亞洲資產管理中心的全部\n\n7\n00:02:30,978 --> 00:02:58,612\n對我同意這應該不會是亞洲資產管理中心的全部現在我的問題是你在這邊把五個行政區劃進來成為高雄專區成為亞洲資產管理專區也好成為台灣金融業要進一步向上提升的動力也好其中的一個計畫對到底有什麼實質的意義我到目前為止看不懂好跟委員我這樣講好了在你現在劃的高雄專區裡面有幾家銀行\n\n8\n00:03:00,174 --> 00:03:21,176\n幾家保險幾家投信十七家銀行四家保險八家投信股你是不是知道在台北市的信義區有幾家銀行這我倒沒有統計幾家保險幾家投信保險公司那母公司的話其實我這樣子說好了啦就是說在地理上面\n\n9\n00:03:22,031 --> 00:03:38,513\n去畫一個這樣子的區域出來當然我希望對於高雄的地方經濟的發展有幫忙啦但是把它直接跟亞洲資產管理中心其中的一個目標在高雄設這樣子的專區它具體的實效性在哪裡我真的必須要老實說\n\n10\n00:03:39,733 --> 00:03:56,370\n我完全看不懂我完全看不懂我可以跟委員解釋一分鐘嗎可以請第一個就是因為我們在做資產管理假設你針對高資產客戶的時候你必須要有很多新辦的業務是所以我們在高雄專區很重要就是我們一個大型的試辦計畫在那邊\n\n11\n00:03:57,931 --> 00:04:22,928\n所以我們必須要先有個區域的部分做示範當然原來高雄市政府提供兩棟大樓給他們選擇但是基於他們實務的考量我們後來改成劃定跟指定就先以這個區域裡面你來指定重點是那個人事棟的我們整個怎麼在一個有限的範圍之內來申請核准以後我這樣說好了啦以市場管理中心來講跟金融業的本質一樣第一個是信任\n\n12\n00:04:23,976 --> 00:04:35,928\n第二個是專業第三個能力全部都是看你服務的品質而這些服務都是沒有型的這些服務都是沒有型的今天我要不要信任某一家銀行\n\n13\n00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:57,136\n或者是某一個金融機構對於所謂高端的客戶也好對於特定的族群也好他所推出來的資產管理服務他們所提供的商品提供服務或是兩者之間的結合其實我看了就是三家事情第一個這個金融機構值不值得信任那第二個他的績效到底是怎麼樣\n\n14\n00:04:58,635 --> 00:05:12,001\n第三個他的專業跟他的能力所以我才會說在地理的區劃上面畫了一個五個行政區到底是什麼意思我有點看不懂今天我在台北市的信義區我在信義區可以看到很多銀行的金融總部\n\n15\n00:05:12,870 --> 00:05:34,885\n我到底要進入F銀行我還是要進入B銀行其實我不會看哪一棟外觀比較漂亮其實我看的是它的reputation跟它實際上面執行的績效時間的關係我們直接來看績效你們在今天的書面報告裡面賴總統在演說的時候似乎也有提到說增加2.83兆我們的母數是多少\n\n16\n00:05:35,578 --> 00:05:48,716\n我們現在在2930兆去年的時候2930兆嗎我們去年推出的時候大概是2930兆左右你知不知道現在新加坡的資產管理的規模多少大概5兆到6兆美元\n\n17\n00:05:51,028 --> 00:06:15,404\n我們的單位是新台幣他們的單位是美元所以如果新加坡換算成所謂的新台幣當作單位這樣你才有比較的基準要不然如果以台灣來講跟新加坡來講看起來數字差不多幣別差很多所以我們是希望現在是一兆我現在給你看\n\n18\n00:06:16,878 --> 00:06:22,545\n這個是新加坡花五年超越香港資產管理的規模四兆\n\n19\n00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:50,630\n但是單位是美元換算成台幣大概120兆以台灣的狀況來講台灣過去我們的國營佔的規模跟比重比較重那相關的法規也比較緊美國商會歐洲商會其實歷年的報告我相信主委都有看這個方向的邁進我不反對但什麼實際上面我覺得怎麼按部就班的下去執行\n\n20\n00:06:53,260 --> 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麻煩有請主委我們請捧主委委員好主委好10月10號國慶致辭的時候賴總統在演講當中又提到亞洲資產管理中心因為這個名詞上次在質詢的時候有請教過主委所以我聽到了以後我就\n我不曉得該說驚訝還是驚喜顯然是賴總統一個非常重要的政見那這個名詞其實大家都不陌生第一次出現有關於政府要打造台灣成為亞洲資產管理中心大概回溯到2001年的時候阿扁總統其實就有撥話這樣子的願景\n那到蔡總統的時候他說要成為一個亞洲企業資金調度級高階資產管理中心名稱稍微長一點大概意思差不多到賴總統的時候就是亞洲資產管理中心我上次就請教就是說劃定目標\n我覺得沒有錯啦有方向是個好事但從2001年口號聽到現在大家可能比較關心的事情是它是繼續淪為口號還是有什麼具體上面的實踐所以我大概去了解了一下你們亞洲資產管理中心到底在做了什麼事情\n那我看了這張圖我有一點驚訝這個是你們之前應該有開記者會嘛找了很多金融業者亞洲資產管理中心高雄專區大概橫跨鹽埕、乾金、新興、林亞跟前鎮區這樣一個地理區位的畫設\n讓台灣成為亞洲資產管理中心它有什麼實際的意義我有點看不太懂請教一下主委是 我想跟委員報告這只是我們16項計畫其中一個叫地方資產管理專區我們整個亞洲資產管理中心涵蓋各個行業這個主要的是希望針對我們的銀行業來設計結合了證券投資這只是其中計畫之一這不是亞洲資產管理中心的全部\n對 我同意這應該不會是亞洲資產管理中心的全部現在我的問題是你在這邊把五個行政區劃進來成為高雄專區成為亞洲資產管理專區也好成為台灣金融業要進一步向上提升的動力也好其中的一個計畫 對到底有什麼實質的意義我到目前為止看不懂好 跟委員我這樣講好了在你現在劃的高雄專區裡面有幾家銀行\n幾家保險 幾家投信十七家銀行 四家保險 八家投信股你是不是知道在台北市的信義區有幾家銀行這我倒沒有統計幾家保險 幾家投信保險公司 那母公司的話其實我這樣子說好了啦就是說在地理上面\n去畫一個這樣子的區域出來當然我希望對於高雄的地方經濟的發展有幫忙啦但是把它直接跟亞洲資產管理中心其中的一個目標在高雄設這樣子的專區它具體的實效性在哪裡我真的必須要老實說\n我完全看不懂我完全看不懂我可以跟委員解釋一分鐘嗎可以 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