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00:02:22,638\n災民看到我們來會抱著我們哭甚至是像這些公路局的這些員工有時候我們只是輕輕的跟他們講說辛苦了他們也會在我們的面前哽咽落淚我們到了區公所去關心關懷您也可以看到像這個畫面上的這是課長他也會掉眼淚可以感受得到其實大家的壓力都很大\n\n7\n00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:38,431\n那在這個當中其實我們特別就是要關心的就是到底我有一個畫面讓我很難過就是我在那個娜瑪夏的時候剛好衛生所的主任也在那邊跟我們一起開會\n\n8\n00:02:39,512 --> 00:03:02,668\n他就跟我提到說裡面都已經斷了三天很想要上去送藥那有沒有可能調空勤總隊來幫忙就是運補藥物那因為我們的回答有一點點的保守那他就默默的就說知道了他就離開那個房間後來我們就看到他\n\n9\n00:03:03,368 --> 00:03:21,124\n就背著背包就自己徒步上山我要表達的是說大家對於這些不斷提出的訴求有時候我們看不到很快的反應所以有時候他們變得對我們的政府的回應已經有一個刻板印象\n\n10\n00:03:21,824 --> 00:03:47,660\n然後就默默的承受我覺得這不是很好的一個現象所以我很想知道說像之前那個都已經是四年前明巴克路橋斷的時候其實曾經有學術單位那交通部有開放授權給他們專案他們就把芒果一箱一箱的把它運出去用無人機所以我們不太曉得說\n\n11\n00:03:49,421 --> 00:04:07,188\n當我們全面有這些需求的時候到底什麼時候我們可以盼到無人機來執行這些原鄉救災的工作他能夠就緒準備好然後呢等到災害發生的時候他能夠立刻的啟動想要請教一下部長您的看法\n\n12\n00:04:07,944 --> 00:04:08,825\n那所以那个量就会扩充起来那\n\n13\n00:04:37,523 --> 00:05:06,005\n之前也有委員關心說那你平常是不是要有一些演練那我想我們這個部分會跟行政院來做說明如果演練把這個項目放進去的話我想那個就會更好謝謝部長因為我自己也關心過也開過記者會也問過要怎麼執訓怎麼考照其實確實法規有一些需要鬆綁的部分但是另外一個就是我特別關心就是那個斷水斷路的問題以這一次的那個霧露立道\n\n14\n00:05:07,318 --> 00:05:28,413\n它在9月23發生這樣的一個斷路然後同時斷電斷網可是一直到9月25號部落的人爬到山上有微弱訊號的地方把照片栽礦把它放送出來我們才接到澄清我們感到很意外\n\n15\n00:05:30,134 --> 00:05:52,632\n這個還是屬於省道呢公路局呢那一般的道路怎麼辦所以在這個部分當然我要特別感謝因為像我們聯絡NCC中華電信或者是空勤總隊他們都有很快速的在當天接到我們的陳情之後把那些需要洗腎的患者還有在當天就隔天就馬上恢復通訊當然我們是覺得做得很快\n\n16\n00:05:55,854 --> 00:06:20,907\n但是我們還是要講一下因為裡面斷電斷訊所以過去台電有推動這一些防災型的微電網但是後來我們看到好像就沒有了是因為沒有這個經費嗎因為我們現在有一個新的陳情我們到部落送物資他們最喜歡的是發電機我們要到處募發電機給他們那政府一直說要推微電網\n\n17\n00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:28,504\n那甚至是有一些有微電網的部落他們好像也不知道要怎麼讓他發揮功能那部長這個部分未來可以這麼做\n\n18\n00:06:29,725 --> 00:06:53,712\n這一次的這個特別預算裡面有8億特別就是要做一個示範性的那如果這個示範性覺得做得很好的話那我們有經過盤點事實上內政部有經過盤點220幾處的所謂的孤島的部分其中有50幾處他們說有這樣的需求那這9個示範性做得好的話我們就會推廣到那50幾個單位就是50幾個地區我是這樣想齁災害\n\n19\n00:06:59,794 --> 00:07:25,811\n颱風進來或者地震進來我們都不知道無法預測在從哪裡進來哪一些地方會受災啦我們是希望說這樣的經費希望能夠編組能夠全面的來做全面的預防因為這已經是不可逆的我們勢必會面對所以希望說經濟部這個地方能夠再來看看怎麼樣加速那我希望說大概兩個禮拜之內可以得到這些答案嗎\n\n20\n00:07:26,813 --> 00:07:28,298\n好我們跟內政部來討論一下好謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝伍麗華委員質詢謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2182\t9566\t那林德福委員不在 吳麗華委員質詢林德福委員 林德福委員不在我們請吳麗華委員質詢謝謝主席 有請經濟部長我們請部長\n30735\t48301\t部長好其實我談到災害復原其實等一下要問的面向蠻廣的涉及到各部會但是因為我最後的訴求是有關電網跟無人機所以特別請部長部長我們都知道全球的災害頻繁\n49461\t75179\t已经是一个不可逆的现象所以在立法院有这么多的委员不断的就各种诉求来做质询其实我们希望的就是不要一而再再而三的不断的质询不断的质询但是我们都没有看到结果那我们看看这一次假设以丹纳斯来讲他横扫全台其实造成了72万户的停电\n75859\t90727\t我們有在新聞那畫面我們都看得到台電員工不分日夜沒日沒夜的在那個地方搶修大家看了也很難過那民間的投入也很多那我自己呢就丹納斯\n91887\t112016\t災害的一些範圍例如像阿里山鄉或者是高雄的那馬下桃園茂林一直到屏東的三地門霧台等等等到台東幾乎有災害的園鄉我大概都有去看過那我要特別就是要講看一下這個畫面其實我到了現場\n113417\t142638\t災民看到我們來會抱著我們哭甚至是像這些公路局的這些員工有時候我們只是輕輕的跟他們講說辛苦了他們也會在我們的面前哽咽 落淚我們到了區公所去關心關懷您也可以看到像這個畫面上的這是課長他也會掉眼淚可以感受得到其實大家的壓力都很大\n143719\t158431\t那在這個當中其實我們特別就是要關心的就是到底我有一個畫面讓我很難過就是我在那個娜瑪夏的時候剛好衛生所的主任也在那邊跟我們一起開會\n159512\t182668\t他就跟我提到說裡面都已經斷了三天很想要上去送藥那有沒有可能調空勤總隊來幫忙就是運補藥物那因為我們的回答有一點點的保守那他就默默的就說知道了他就離開那個房間後來我們就看到他\n183368\t201124\t就背著背包就自己徒步上山我要表達的是說大家對於這些不斷提出的訴求有時候我們看不到很快的反應所以有時候他們變得對我們的政府的回應已經有一個刻板印象\n201824\t227660\t然後就默默的承受我覺得這不是很好的一個現象所以我很想知道說像之前那個都已經是四年前明巴克路橋斷的時候其實曾經有學術單位那交通部有開放授權給他們專案他們就把芒果一箱一箱的把它運出去用無人機所以我們不太曉得說\n229421\t247188\t當我們全面有這些需求的時候到底什麼時候我們可以盼到無人機來執行這些原鄉救災的工作他能夠就緒準備好然後呢等到災害發生的時候他能夠立刻的啟動想要請教一下部長您的看法\n247944\t248825\t那所以那个量就会扩充起来那\n277523\t306005\t之前也有委員關心說那你平常是不是要有一些演練那我想我們這個部分會跟行政院來做說明如果演練把這個項目放進去的話我想那個就會更好謝謝部長因為我自己也關心過也開過記者會也問過要怎麼執訓怎麼考照其實確實法規有一些需要鬆綁的部分但是另外一個就是我特別關心就是那個斷水斷路的問題以這一次的那個霧露立道\n307318\t328413\t它在9月23發生這樣的一個斷路然後同時斷電斷網可是一直到9月25號部落的人爬到山上有微弱訊號的地方把照片栽礦把它放送出來我們才接到澄清我們感到很意外\n330134\t352632\t這個還是屬於省道呢 公路局呢那一般的道路怎麼辦所以在這個部分當然我要特別感謝因為像我們聯絡NCC中華電信或者是空勤總隊他們都有很快速的在當天接到我們的陳情之後把那些需要洗腎的患者還有在當天就隔天就馬上恢復通訊當然我們是覺得做得很快\n355854\t380907\t但是我們還是要講一下因為裡面斷電 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斷訊所以過去台電有推動這一些防災型的微電網但是後來我們看到好像就沒有了是因為沒有這個經費嗎因為我們現在有一個新的陳情我們到部落送物資他們最喜歡的是發電機我們要到處募發電機給他們那政府一直說要推微電網\n那甚至是有一些有微電網的部落他們好像也不知道要怎麼讓他發揮功能那部長這個部分未來可以這麼做\n這一次的這個特別預算裡面有8億特別就是要做一個示範性的那如果這個示範性覺得做得很好的話那我們有經過盤點事實上內政部有經過盤點220幾處的所謂的孤島的部分其中有50幾處他們說有這樣的需求那這9個示範性做得好的話我們就會推廣到那50幾個單位就是50幾個地區我是這樣想齁災害\n颱風進來或者地震進來我們都不知道無法預測在從哪裡進來哪一些地方會受災啦我們是希望說這樣的經費希望能夠編組能夠全面的來做全面的預防因為這已經是不可逆的我們勢必會面對所以希望說經濟部這個地方能夠再來看看怎麼樣加速那我希望說大概兩個禮拜之內可以得到這些答案嗎\n好 我們跟內政部來討論一下好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席謝謝伍麗華委員質詢 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.182 --> 00:09.566\n那林德福委員不在吳麗華委員質詢林德福委員林德福委員不在我們請吳麗華委員質詢謝謝主席有請經濟部長我們請部長\n\n00:30.735 --> 00:48.301\n部長好其實我談到災害復原其實等一下要問的面向蠻廣的涉及到各部會但是因為我最後的訴求是有關電網跟無人機所以特別請部長部長我們都知道全球的災害頻繁\n\n00:49.461 --> 01:15.179\n已经是一个不可逆的现象所以在立法院有这么多的委员不断的就各种诉求来做质询其实我们希望的就是不要一而再再而三的不断的质询不断的质询但是我们都没有看到结果那我们看看这一次假设以丹纳斯来讲他横扫全台其实造成了72万户的停电\n\n01:15.859 --> 01:30.727\n我們有在新聞那畫面我們都看得到台電員工不分日夜沒日沒夜的在那個地方搶修大家看了也很難過那民間的投入也很多那我自己呢就丹納斯\n\n01:31.887 --> 01:52.016\n災害的一些範圍例如像阿里山鄉或者是高雄的那馬下桃園茂林一直到屏東的三地門霧台等等等到台東幾乎有災害的園鄉我大概都有去看過那我要特別就是要講看一下這個畫面其實我到了現場\n\n01:53.417 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Tahovecahe委員：部長好。其實我談到災害復原，等一下要問的面向滿廣的，涉及到各部會，但因為我最後的訴求是有關電網跟無人機，所以特別請部長幫忙。部長，我們都知道全球災害頻繁已經是一個不可逆的現象，所以在立法院有這麼多委員不斷地就各種訴求來質詢，其實我們希望的就是不要一而再、再而三的不斷地質詢、不斷地質詢，但是我們都沒有看到結果。這一次以丹娜絲來講，它橫掃全臺，造成了72萬戶的停電，我們在新聞畫面都看得到台電員工不分日夜、沒日沒夜的在那個地方搶修，大家看了也很難過，民間的投入也很多。","我自己就丹娜絲災害的一些範圍，例如像阿里山鄉，或者是高雄的那瑪夏、桃源、茂林，一直到屏東的三地門、霧台、臺東等等，幾乎有災害的原鄉我大概都有去看過。我特別要講，請看一下這個畫面，我到了現場，災民看到我們來會抱著我們哭，甚至像一些公路局的員工，有時候我們只是輕輕的跟他們講：辛苦了！他們也會在我們面前哽咽落淚。我們到區公所去關心、關懷，您可以看到像這個畫面上的課長，他也會掉眼淚，可以感受得到，其實大家的壓力都很大，在這個當中，其實我們要特別關心的是……有一個畫面讓我很難過，我在那瑪夏的時候，剛好衛生所的主任也在那邊跟我們一起開會，他跟我提到裡面已經斷了3天，很想要上去送藥，有沒有可能調空勤總隊來幫忙運補藥物？因為我們的回答有一點點保守，他就默默的說：知道了。他就離開那個房間，後來我們就看到他背著背包自己徒步上山。我要表達的是，大家對於這些不斷提出的訴求，有時候我們看不到很快的反應，所以他們變得對我們政府的回應已經有一個刻板印象，然後默默地承受，我覺得這不是一個很好的現象。","我很想知道之前……那都已經是4年前明霸克露橋斷的時候，其實曾經有學術單位，交通部有開放授權，給他們專案，他們用無人機把芒果一箱一箱的運出去。所以不太曉得當我們全面有這些需求時，到底什麼時候可以盼到無人機來執行這些原鄉救災的工作？它能夠平時就緒準備好，等到災害發生時能夠立刻啟動，想要請教一下部長您的看法。"],["龔部長明鑫：報告委員，我們應該從明年開始就會編列各個單位，軍方的部分是另外，會編5萬臺無人機的經費。"],["伍麗華Saidhai 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Tahovecahe委員：好，謝謝部長，謝謝主席。"],["主席：謝謝伍麗華委員質詢，謝謝部長。","我們現在請蘇清泉、蘇清泉，蘇清泉委員不在。","高金素梅、高金素梅，高金素梅委員不在。","許宇甄、許宇甄，許宇甄委員不在。","我們請蔡易餘委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":188,"meet_id":"委員會-11-4-19-2","speakers":["陳亭妃","邱議瑩","張啓楷","鄭正鈐","鄭天財Sra Kacaw","楊瓊瓔","林岱樺","邱志偉","謝衣鳯","呂玉玲","黃國昌","鍾佳濱","賴瑞隆","賴惠員","郭國文","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","蔡易餘","盧縣一","陳冠廷","洪孟楷","張嘉郡","蘇清泉","陳超明","沈伯洋","高金素梅"],"page_start":101,"meetingDate":["2025-10-13"],"gazette_id":"1148201","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1148201_00004"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請農業部部長、經濟部部長、原住民族委員會首長、國家通訊傳播委員會首長、行政院公共工\n程委員會首長、行政院主計總處首長、內政部首長、教育部首長、交通部首長、環境部首長、文\n化部首長、勞動部首長及衛生福利部首長就「丹娜絲颱風及728豪雨災後復原重建情形」進行報\n告，並備質詢","agenda_id":"1148201_00003"}}}