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00:02:28,895\n這個國安基金進退場執行安定任務的一個條件石包委員我想這個國安基金是因為財政部在處理我不方便評論我只是說剛剛委員提到這個美中兩個經濟體是世界上非常非常大的經濟體他們的任何的動作都影響到全球的這個所有的資本市場我想這部分我們儘管會密切的注意像這樣的情勢的發展\n\n7\n00:02:30,016 --> 00:02:57,231\n主委國安基金委員會表示認為台美對等關稅談判及232條款調查結果尚未定案後續效應需審慎因應不及現在就退場那我請問主委如果談判時時程拉長那後續效應引發全球貿易戰那是不是代表國安基金安定市場的任務可能會持續的延長你認為呢\n\n8\n00:02:58,872 --> 00:03:20,338\n是剛剛國安基金因為他有他自己的目的啦我剛剛跟委員報告了就是他的主政單位財政部但是我們儘管會在對於市場制度我們是期待這個制度能夠回歸到市場機制我們充分的揭露資訊在制度上穩健的建立相關的遊戲規則我想當然市場上會有很多消息面以及這些所謂的國際這些\n\n9\n00:03:23,699 --> 00:03:38,671\n這個經貿之間的增值所產生的一些的影響我想我們資本市場就是充分的反映所有的資訊我們建立一個完善的制度給投資人來進行這樣的一個運作本主委我請教這個\n\n10\n00:03:41,127 --> 00:03:58,674\n你曾說今年股市主要變數包括川普上任影響整個國際金融市場甚大那多項變數包括美國聯準會的利率政策以及對股會市都有影響那金管會都會關注\n\n11\n00:04:00,117 --> 00:04:28,159\n主委那台股由於今年四月是最低點的時候是一萬七千多點到現在台股大盤已經上漲到兩萬七千多點整整六個月上漲了一萬點那我請問主委面對川普關稅戰的不確定性台股大盤卻反應上漲你認為這樣的台股大盤發展是正常還是異常呢\n\n12\n00:04:28,809 --> 00:04:47,505\n其實我覺得全球的經濟環境都在做很大很大的變化我想剛才委員提到就是說台股在創歷史新高的過程當中其實我們看我們全球的主要國家的股市其實不是只有台灣我想全球的整個經濟環境做很大的變更\n\n13\n00:04:48,226 --> 00:05:08,459\n那跟以前比如說可能10年20年不太一樣剛剛委員也提到就是確實像美國的這些的關稅政策關稅那個衝擊都很大尤其那個一般傳產業啊對還有像美元的那個利率它的走向還有就是地緣政治都是影響台灣資本市場非常重要因素目前應該還是\n\n14\n00:05:10,053 --> 00:05:37,670\n這樣喔主委你說未來一年全球的經濟情勢都有大波動在不確定性成為常態之下金管會將對整個資本市場保持高度的關注那我請問主委金管會對目前整個資本市場的發展以及未來投資和運作你認為應該是積極樂觀還是保守樂觀甚至於還是應該要居高思維你的論點呢\n\n15\n00:05:38,630 --> 00:06:07,176\n跟委員報告我想在過去我在這裡回答委員的那個詢問的時候我都再三的強調儘管會不會對未來的股市做任何的預期但是呢我們相信所有的股市最終還是回落到基本面那我們從這個因素來看的話台灣的產業整個的營收也好獲利的數字也好今年確實是表現的相對的是比較優異我想\n\n16\n00:06:07,896 --> 00:06:30,990\n有基本面的支撐是最重要的我想最終不管消息面一些因素最終還是要反映基本的基本面我知道要不要居高思維因為講實在話很多那些傳產業甚至於現在很多人失業那像這些都是未來會變成社會問題那你像這個關稅的不確定性衝擊那些產業尤其傳產真的很嚴重\n\n17\n00:06:36,497 --> 00:06:56,082\n對就是在這一方面我們在做金融支持的部分其實我們還是持續的在做當然整個關稅影響到的不是只是金融市場我想整個影響包括我們的進出口都會受到這些影響我只是說我們各司其職我們在金融業的部分有關資本市場以及我們金融支持的部分我們會持續來努力\n\n18\n00:06:56,772 --> 00:07:16,708\n那個主委啊我再請教因為八月底時這個公股銀行2025年上半年海外獲利統計出爐八大公股這個海外獲利這個合計占比維持在差不多兩成以上其中又以兆豐銀行接近三成最高\n\n19\n00:07:17,509 --> 00:07:33,363\n那主委銀行竟然有相當比例海外獲利的占比那為什麼最近公股銀行持續傳出要診病或裁測的消息我想這一點本席不大了解請主委你來做說明\n\n20\n00:07:33,863 --> 00:07:55,648\n我想因為公股當然是因為這部分站在我們金融階等立場我們是尊重公司治理他們自己我們過去確實我們有看到五家公股裁測了12個海外的據點然後主要的地方也是集中在一些地方我想他們自己經有的經營的考量那有些是因為他們確實在業務上面已經做了一些調整我想在\n\n21\n00:07:56,548 --> 00:08:12,733\n過去我們是會去了解希望他們還是兼顧到一些比如說有一些我們的客戶的一些的需求但是呢最後他們也都做出這樣的決定我們是表示尊重不過我們還是會關切是否有這樣他們這樣裁測是否適當\n\n22\n00:08:13,433 --> 00:08:33,070\n主委啊就以您專業的立場供股行庫整併或裁測除了營運獲利考量外是不是也有政策目的考量的成分那你認為近期像川普經貿關稅這些政策是不是也是國內供股行庫海外據點發生變化的一個原因呢\n\n23\n00:08:33,550 --> 00:09:01,631\n我想這原因非常的複雜因為就是說比如說我們在就以國內的金融機構設立分支機構為例他也是過去曾經有一段是高峰期大家都希望來設分行但是隨著我們的經營型態已經客戶需求以及客戶行為的改變他也要做這個調整相對的隨著國際市場的改變那實際上這個他們在做這些調整我們是覺得只要是符合他們公司自己程序以及他們業務上的考量我覺得我們都會尊重\n\n24\n00:09:02,511 --> 00:09:21,059\n主委按照公股銀行海外據點似乎有加速來整併的狀況且根據各銀行的說法策點主要包括政局不穩營運成本高資源配置效率低以及數位化趨勢的改變\n\n25\n00:09:22,419 --> 00:09:38,311\n這些金融的服務模式那我請問主委公股銀行海外據點加速整併是不是代表台灣我們的政府啊對新南向政策計畫也必須做出相當程度的調整你認為呢\n\n26\n00:09:39,231 --> 00:10:02,571\n其實本來事業經營就要保持高度的靈活性以及適應環境的改變像比如這次我們有看到有些光谷測它是測在某些特定地區因為它的整個整個的經營環境已經做了改變那我想這部分或是它商機已經不在或是因為其他比如說的因素不穩定的時候它可能就會測走我想這個大概是經營商業上也是要保有一定的彈性\n\n27\n00:10:03,953 --> 00:10:18,955\n這個其實我們也可以看到我們這個國營在海外的這樣那個擴張確實在最近幾年已經展現它的成效陳柱剛才指示就是說他們現在獲利海外獲利越高也成為很重要的獲利的引擎\n\n28\n00:10:19,375 --> 00:10:34,811\n那個主委又或者參與新南向政策的台商早已經出現投資板塊的移動所以說公股銀行才決定部分新南向國家這些海外據點整併或撤離是不是有這樣的考量\n\n29\n00:10:35,171 --> 00:10:56,633\n其實我們看到其實看國營這個動向不應該只看公股其他我覺得很多我們是整個民營行業畢竟我們的客戶不是只有公股在服務但是我們也看到我們的銀行其實也保持非常靈活的這樣的一個做法其實我們站在一個金融監理我們是希望他們做好自己的風險評估以及他們公司治理能夠完備這部分我們都尊重他們的經營\n\n30\n00:10:57,153 --> 00:11:15,776\n好最後一點我請問主委相較之下未來公股銀行如果追隨台積電海外佈局腳步積極你認為前進日跟美的市場新東向有沒有可能促成公股銀行設置海外據點的另一波熱潮會不會\n\n31\n00:11:16,451 --> 00:11:30,458\n其實我覺得我們的公股在過去氣精的部分本來就是他的強項跟隨客戶本來就是他們現在很重要的一個策略的思考我想這部分還是一樣剛剛講說他們會有自己的判斷尊重他們以及發揮他們優勢來進行他業務的拓展好謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n15833\t28697\t謝謝 謝謝主席是不是請彭主委 軍管會彭主委好 我們請彭主委委員長主委您早主委我請教因為中國稀土限制出口\n29990\t51796\t整個美中的貿易戰升溫上週美股大雪崩那我請問主委穩健的台股面對整個國際局勢的動盪是不是因為技術面的大跌衝擊影響到台股基本面的發展會不會是因為這樣子\n53194\t72505\t我想跟委員報告就是台股在過去的表現確實是相對是穩健我想從10月10號這個消息出來以後因為我們遇到廉價沒有反應因為我剛剛也看了一下今天剛剛在我上台為止大概我們現在下跌的幅度跟美國來講確實收斂了不少\n76067\t92445\t面對關稅的議題從4月開始到現在整個產業應該有經歷過很多很多的這樣消息面也好基本面的變化我想投資人面對這樣的消息的這些的消化以及解讀能力已經開始有一定的這樣的判讀能力\n92805\t121239\t那個主委啊畢竟上市櫃會因為股市是蒸發的市值而影響到根本的整個財務的一個操作那這個主委因為國安基金委員會召開第三季例行的會議考量整個市場仍存在不確定的因素決議繼續來執行安定市場的任務那我請問主委你認為美中貿易戰是不是\n123657\t148895\t這個國安基金進退場執行安定任務的一個條件石包委員我想這個國安基金是因為財政部在處理我不方便評論我只是說剛剛委員提到這個美中兩個經濟體是世界上非常非常大的經濟體他們的任何的動作都影響到全球的這個所有的資本市場我想這部分我們儘管會密切的注意像這樣的情勢的發展\n150016\t177231\t主委 國安基金委員會表示認為台美對等關稅談判及232條款調查結果尚未定案後續效應需審慎因應不及現在就退場那我請問主委如果談判時時程拉長那後續效應引發全球貿易戰那是不是代表國安基金安定市場的任務可能會持續的延長你認為呢\n178872\t200338\t是 剛剛國安基金因為他有他自己的目的啦我剛剛跟委員報告了就是他的主政單位財政部但是我們儘管會在對於市場制度我們是期待這個制度能夠回歸到市場機制我們充分的揭露資訊在制度上穩健的建立相關的遊戲規則我想當然市場上會有很多消息面以及這些所謂的國際這些\n203699\t218671\t這個經貿之間的增值所產生的一些的影響我想我們資本市場就是充分的反映所有的資訊我們建立一個完善的制度給投資人來進行這樣的一個運作本主委我請教這個\n221127\t238674\t你曾說今年股市主要變數包括川普上任影響整個國際金融市場甚大那多項變數包括美國聯準會的利率政策以及對股會市都有影響那金管會都會關注\n240117\t268159\t主委那台股由於今年四月是最低點的時候是一萬七千多點到現在台股大盤已經上漲到兩萬七千多點整整六個月上漲了一萬點那我請問主委面對川普關稅戰的不確定性台股大盤卻反應上漲你認為這樣的台股大盤發展是正常還是異常呢\n268809\t287505\t其實我覺得全球的經濟環境都在做很大很大的變化我想剛才委員提到就是說台股在創歷史新高的過程當中其實我們看我們全球的主要國家的股市其實不是只有台灣我想全球的整個經濟環境做很大的變更\n288226\t308459\t那跟以前比如說可能10年20年不太一樣剛剛委員也提到就是確實像美國的這些的關稅政策關稅那個衝擊都很大尤其那個一般傳產業啊對還有像美元的那個利率它的走向還有就是地緣政治都是影響台灣資本市場非常重要因素目前應該還是\n310053\t337670\t這樣喔 主委你說未來一年全球的經濟情勢都有大波動在不確定性成為常態之下金管會將對整個資本市場保持高度的關注那我請問主委金管會對目前整個資本市場的發展以及未來投資和運作你認為應該是積極樂觀還是保守樂觀甚至於還是應該要居高思維你的論點呢\n338630\t367176\t跟委員報告我想在過去我在這裡回答委員的那個詢問的時候我都再三的強調儘管會不會對未來的股市做任何的預期但是呢我們相信所有的股市最終還是回落到基本面那我們從這個因素來看的話台灣的產業整個的營收也好獲利的數字也好今年確實是表現的相對的是比較優異我想\n367896\t390990\t有基本面的支撐是最重要的我想最終不管消息面一些因素最終還是要反映基本的基本面我知道要不要居高思維因為講實在話很多那些傳產業甚至於現在很多人失業那像這些都是未來會變成社會問題那你像這個關稅的不確定性衝擊那些產業尤其傳產真的很嚴重\n396497\t416082\t對 就是在這一方面我們在做金融支持的部分其實我們還是持續的在做當然整個關稅影響到的不是只是金融市場我想整個影響包括我們的進出口都會受到這些影響我只是說我們各司其職我們在金融業的部分有關資本市場以及我們金融支持的部分我們會持續來努力\n416772\t436708\t那個 主委啊 我再請教 因為八月底時這個公股銀行2025年上半年海外獲利統計出爐八大公股這個海外獲利這個合計占比維持在差不多兩成以上其中又以兆豐銀行接近三成最高\n437509\t453363\t那主委銀行竟然有相當比例海外獲利的占比那為什麼最近公股銀行持續傳出要診病或裁測的消息我想這一點本席不大了解請主委你來做說明\n453863\t475648\t我想因為公股當然是因為這部分站在我們金融階等立場我們是尊重公司治理他們自己我們過去確實我們有看到五家公股裁測了12個海外的據點然後主要的地方也是集中在一些地方我想他們自己經有的經營的考量那有些是因為他們確實在業務上面已經做了一些調整我想在\n476548\t492733\t過去我們是會去了解希望他們還是兼顧到一些比如說有一些我們的客戶的一些的需求但是呢最後他們也都做出這樣的決定我們是表示尊重不過我們還是會關切是否有這樣他們這樣裁測是否適當\n493433\t513070\t主委啊 就以您專業的立場 供股行庫整併或裁測除了營運獲利考量外 是不是也有政策目的考量的成分那你認為近期像川普經貿關稅這些政策是不是也是國內供股行庫海外據點發生變化的一個原因呢\n513550\t541631\t我想這原因非常的複雜因為就是說比如說我們在就以國內的金融機構設立分支機構為例他也是過去曾經有一段是高峰期大家都希望來設分行但是隨著我們的經營型態已經客戶需求以及客戶行為的改變他也要做這個調整相對的隨著國際市場的改變那實際上這個他們在做這些調整我們是覺得只要是符合他們公司自己程序以及他們業務上的考量我覺得我們都會尊重\n542511\t561059\t主委 按照公股銀行海外據點似乎有加速來整併的狀況且根據各銀行的說法 策點主要包括政局不穩 營運成本高資源配置效率低 以及數位化趨勢的改變\n562419\t578311\t這些金融的服務模式那我請問主委公股銀行海外據點加速整併是不是代表台灣我們的政府啊對新南向政策計畫也必須做出相當程度的調整你認為呢\n579231\t602571\t其實本來事業經營就要保持高度的靈活性以及適應環境的改變像比如這次我們有看到有些光谷測它是測在某些特定地區因為它的整個整個的經營環境已經做了改變那我想這部分或是它商機已經不在或是因為其他比如說的因素不穩定的時候它可能就會測走我想這個大概是經營商業上也是要保有一定的彈性\n603953\t618955\t這個其實我們也可以看到我們這個國營在海外的這樣那個擴張確實在最近幾年已經展現它的成效陳柱剛才指示就是說他們現在獲利海外獲利越高也成為很重要的獲利的引擎\n619375\t634811\t那個主委又或者參與新南向政策的台商早已經出現投資板塊的移動所以說公股銀行才決定部分新南向國家這些海外據點整併或撤離是不是有這樣的考量\n635171\t656633\t其實我們看到其實看國營這個動向不應該只看公股其他我覺得很多我們是整個民營行業畢竟我們的客戶不是只有公股在服務但是我們也看到我們的銀行其實也保持非常靈活的這樣的一個做法其實我們站在一個金融監理我們是希望他們做好自己的風險評估以及他們公司治理能夠完備這部分我們都尊重他們的經營\n657153\t675776\t好最後一點我請問主委相較之下未來公股銀行如果追隨台積電海外佈局腳步積極你認為前進日跟美的市場新東向有沒有可能促成公股銀行設置海外據點的另一波熱潮會不會\n676451\t690458\t其實我覺得我們的公股在過去氣精的部分本來就是他的強項跟隨客戶本來就是他們現在很重要的一個策略的思考我想這部分還是一樣剛剛講說他們會有自己的判斷尊重他們以及發揮他們優勢來進行他業務的拓展好 謝謝謝謝委員 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝 謝謝主席是不是請彭主委 軍管會彭主委好 我們請彭主委委員長主委您早主委我請教因為中國稀土限制出口\n整個美中的貿易戰升溫上週美股大雪崩那我請問主委穩健的台股面對整個國際局勢的動盪是不是因為技術面的大跌衝擊影響到台股基本面的發展會不會是因為這樣子\n我想跟委員報告就是台股在過去的表現確實是相對是穩健我想從10月10號這個消息出來以後因為我們遇到廉價沒有反應因為我剛剛也看了一下今天剛剛在我上台為止大概我們現在下跌的幅度跟美國來講確實收斂了不少\n面對關稅的議題從4月開始到現在整個產業應該有經歷過很多很多的這樣消息面也好基本面的變化我想投資人面對這樣的消息的這些的消化以及解讀能力已經開始有一定的這樣的判讀能力\n那個主委啊畢竟上市櫃會因為股市是蒸發的市值而影響到根本的整個財務的一個操作那這個主委因為國安基金委員會召開第三季例行的會議考量整個市場仍存在不確定的因素決議繼續來執行安定市場的任務那我請問主委你認為美中貿易戰是不是\n這個國安基金進退場執行安定任務的一個條件石包委員我想這個國安基金是因為財政部在處理我不方便評論我只是說剛剛委員提到這個美中兩個經濟體是世界上非常非常大的經濟體他們的任何的動作都影響到全球的這個所有的資本市場我想這部分我們儘管會密切的注意像這樣的情勢的發展\n主委 國安基金委員會表示認為台美對等關稅談判及232條款調查結果尚未定案後續效應需審慎因應不及現在就退場那我請問主委如果談判時時程拉長那後續效應引發全球貿易戰那是不是代表國安基金安定市場的任務可能會持續的延長你認為呢\n是 剛剛國安基金因為他有他自己的目的啦我剛剛跟委員報告了就是他的主政單位財政部但是我們儘管會在對於市場制度我們是期待這個制度能夠回歸到市場機制我們充分的揭露資訊在制度上穩健的建立相關的遊戲規則我想當然市場上會有很多消息面以及這些所謂的國際這些\n這個經貿之間的增值所產生的一些的影響我想我們資本市場就是充分的反映所有的資訊我們建立一個完善的制度給投資人來進行這樣的一個運作本主委我請教這個\n你曾說今年股市主要變數包括川普上任影響整個國際金融市場甚大那多項變數包括美國聯準會的利率政策以及對股會市都有影響那金管會都會關注\n主委那台股由於今年四月是最低點的時候是一萬七千多點到現在台股大盤已經上漲到兩萬七千多點整整六個月上漲了一萬點那我請問主委面對川普關稅戰的不確定性台股大盤卻反應上漲你認為這樣的台股大盤發展是正常還是異常呢\n其實我覺得全球的經濟環境都在做很大很大的變化我想剛才委員提到就是說台股在創歷史新高的過程當中其實我們看我們全球的主要國家的股市其實不是只有台灣我想全球的整個經濟環境做很大的變更\n那跟以前比如說可能10年20年不太一樣剛剛委員也提到就是確實像美國的這些的關稅政策關稅那個衝擊都很大尤其那個一般傳產業啊對還有像美元的那個利率它的走向還有就是地緣政治都是影響台灣資本市場非常重要因素目前應該還是\n這樣喔 主委你說未來一年全球的經濟情勢都有大波動在不確定性成為常態之下金管會將對整個資本市場保持高度的關注那我請問主委金管會對目前整個資本市場的發展以及未來投資和運作你認為應該是積極樂觀還是保守樂觀甚至於還是應該要居高思維你的論點呢\n跟委員報告我想在過去我在這裡回答委員的那個詢問的時候我都再三的強調儘管會不會對未來的股市做任何的預期但是呢我們相信所有的股市最終還是回落到基本面那我們從這個因素來看的話台灣的產業整個的營收也好獲利的數字也好今年確實是表現的相對的是比較優異我想\n有基本面的支撐是最重要的我想最終不管消息面一些因素最終還是要反映基本的基本面我知道要不要居高思維因為講實在話很多那些傳產業甚至於現在很多人失業那像這些都是未來會變成社會問題那你像這個關稅的不確定性衝擊那些產業尤其傳產真的很嚴重\n對 就是在這一方面我們在做金融支持的部分其實我們還是持續的在做當然整個關稅影響到的不是只是金融市場我想整個影響包括我們的進出口都會受到這些影響我只是說我們各司其職我們在金融業的部分有關資本市場以及我們金融支持的部分我們會持續來努力\n那個 主委啊 我再請教 因為八月底時這個公股銀行2025年上半年海外獲利統計出爐八大公股這個海外獲利這個合計占比維持在差不多兩成以上其中又以兆豐銀行接近三成最高\n那主委銀行竟然有相當比例海外獲利的占比那為什麼最近公股銀行持續傳出要診病或裁測的消息我想這一點本席不大了解請主委你來做說明\n我想因為公股當然是因為這部分站在我們金融階等立場我們是尊重公司治理他們自己我們過去確實我們有看到五家公股裁測了12個海外的據點然後主要的地方也是集中在一些地方我想他們自己經有的經營的考量那有些是因為他們確實在業務上面已經做了一些調整我想在\n過去我們是會去了解希望他們還是兼顧到一些比如說有一些我們的客戶的一些的需求但是呢最後他們也都做出這樣的決定我們是表示尊重不過我們還是會關切是否有這樣他們這樣裁測是否適當\n主委啊 就以您專業的立場 供股行庫整併或裁測除了營運獲利考量外 是不是也有政策目的考量的成分那你認為近期像川普經貿關稅這些政策是不是也是國內供股行庫海外據點發生變化的一個原因呢\n我想這原因非常的複雜因為就是說比如說我們在就以國內的金融機構設立分支機構為例他也是過去曾經有一段是高峰期大家都希望來設分行但是隨著我們的經營型態已經客戶需求以及客戶行為的改變他也要做這個調整相對的隨著國際市場的改變那實際上這個他們在做這些調整我們是覺得只要是符合他們公司自己程序以及他們業務上的考量我覺得我們都會尊重\n主委 按照公股銀行海外據點似乎有加速來整併的狀況且根據各銀行的說法 策點主要包括政局不穩 營運成本高資源配置效率低 以及數位化趨勢的改變\n這些金融的服務模式那我請問主委公股銀行海外據點加速整併是不是代表台灣我們的政府啊對新南向政策計畫也必須做出相當程度的調整你認為呢\n其實本來事業經營就要保持高度的靈活性以及適應環境的改變像比如這次我們有看到有些光谷測它是測在某些特定地區因為它的整個整個的經營環境已經做了改變那我想這部分或是它商機已經不在或是因為其他比如說的因素不穩定的時候它可能就會測走我想這個大概是經營商業上也是要保有一定的彈性\n這個其實我們也可以看到我們這個國營在海外的這樣那個擴張確實在最近幾年已經展現它的成效陳柱剛才指示就是說他們現在獲利海外獲利越高也成為很重要的獲利的引擎\n那個主委又或者參與新南向政策的台商早已經出現投資板塊的移動所以說公股銀行才決定部分新南向國家這些海外據點整併或撤離是不是有這樣的考量\n其實我們看到其實看國營這個動向不應該只看公股其他我覺得很多我們是整個民營行業畢竟我們的客戶不是只有公股在服務但是我們也看到我們的銀行其實也保持非常靈活的這樣的一個做法其實我們站在一個金融監理我們是希望他們做好自己的風險評估以及他們公司治理能夠完備這部分我們都尊重他們的經營\n好最後一點我請問主委相較之下未來公股銀行如果追隨台積電海外佈局腳步積極你認為前進日跟美的市場新東向有沒有可能促成公股銀行設置海外據點的另一波熱潮會不會\n其實我覺得我們的公股在過去氣精的部分本來就是他的強項跟隨客戶本來就是他們現在很重要的一個策略的思考我想這部分還是一樣剛剛講說他們會有自己的判斷尊重他們以及發揮他們優勢來進行他業務的拓展好 謝謝謝謝委員 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:15.833 --> 00:28.697\n謝謝謝謝主席是不是請彭主委軍管會彭主委好我們請彭主委委員長主委您早主委我請教因為中國稀土限制出口\n\n00:29.990 --> 00:51.796\n整個美中的貿易戰升溫上週美股大雪崩那我請問主委穩健的台股面對整個國際局勢的動盪是不是因為技術面的大跌衝擊影響到台股基本面的發展會不會是因為這樣子\n\n00:53.194 --> 01:12.505\n我想跟委員報告就是台股在過去的表現確實是相對是穩健我想從10月10號這個消息出來以後因為我們遇到廉價沒有反應因為我剛剛也看了一下今天剛剛在我上台為止大概我們現在下跌的幅度跟美國來講確實收斂了不少\n\n01:16.067 --> 01:32.445\n面對關稅的議題從4月開始到現在整個產業應該有經歷過很多很多的這樣消息面也好基本面的變化我想投資人面對這樣的消息的這些的消化以及解讀能力已經開始有一定的這樣的判讀能力\n\n01:32.805 --> 02:01.239\n那個主委啊畢竟上市櫃會因為股市是蒸發的市值而影響到根本的整個財務的一個操作那這個主委因為國安基金委員會召開第三季例行的會議考量整個市場仍存在不確定的因素決議繼續來執行安定市場的任務那我請問主委你認為美中貿易戰是不是\n\n02:03.657 --> 02:28.895\n這個國安基金進退場執行安定任務的一個條件石包委員我想這個國安基金是因為財政部在處理我不方便評論我只是說剛剛委員提到這個美中兩個經濟體是世界上非常非常大的經濟體他們的任何的動作都影響到全球的這個所有的資本市場我想這部分我們儘管會密切的注意像這樣的情勢的發展\n\n02:30.016 --> 02:57.231\n主委國安基金委員會表示認為台美對等關稅談判及232條款調查結果尚未定案後續效應需審慎因應不及現在就退場那我請問主委如果談判時時程拉長那後續效應引發全球貿易戰那是不是代表國安基金安定市場的任務可能會持續的延長你認為呢\n\n02:58.872 --> 03:20.338\n是剛剛國安基金因為他有他自己的目的啦我剛剛跟委員報告了就是他的主政單位財政部但是我們儘管會在對於市場制度我們是期待這個制度能夠回歸到市場機制我們充分的揭露資訊在制度上穩健的建立相關的遊戲規則我想當然市場上會有很多消息面以及這些所謂的國際這些\n\n03:23.699 --> 03:38.671\n這個經貿之間的增值所產生的一些的影響我想我們資本市場就是充分的反映所有的資訊我們建立一個完善的制度給投資人來進行這樣的一個運作本主委我請教這個\n\n03:41.127 --> 03:58.674\n你曾說今年股市主要變數包括川普上任影響整個國際金融市場甚大那多項變數包括美國聯準會的利率政策以及對股會市都有影響那金管會都會關注\n\n04:00.117 --> 04:28.159\n主委那台股由於今年四月是最低點的時候是一萬七千多點到現在台股大盤已經上漲到兩萬七千多點整整六個月上漲了一萬點那我請問主委面對川普關稅戰的不確定性台股大盤卻反應上漲你認為這樣的台股大盤發展是正常還是異常呢\n\n04:28.809 --> 04:47.505\n其實我覺得全球的經濟環境都在做很大很大的變化我想剛才委員提到就是說台股在創歷史新高的過程當中其實我們看我們全球的主要國家的股市其實不是只有台灣我想全球的整個經濟環境做很大的變更\n\n04:48.226 --> 05:08.459\n那跟以前比如說可能10年20年不太一樣剛剛委員也提到就是確實像美國的這些的關稅政策關稅那個衝擊都很大尤其那個一般傳產業啊對還有像美元的那個利率它的走向還有就是地緣政治都是影響台灣資本市場非常重要因素目前應該還是\n\n05:10.053 --> 05:37.670\n這樣喔主委你說未來一年全球的經濟情勢都有大波動在不確定性成為常態之下金管會將對整個資本市場保持高度的關注那我請問主委金管會對目前整個資本市場的發展以及未來投資和運作你認為應該是積極樂觀還是保守樂觀甚至於還是應該要居高思維你的論點呢\n\n05:38.630 --> 06:07.176\n跟委員報告我想在過去我在這裡回答委員的那個詢問的時候我都再三的強調儘管會不會對未來的股市做任何的預期但是呢我們相信所有的股市最終還是回落到基本面那我們從這個因素來看的話台灣的產業整個的營收也好獲利的數字也好今年確實是表現的相對的是比較優異我想\n\n06:07.896 --> 06:30.990\n有基本面的支撐是最重要的我想最終不管消息面一些因素最終還是要反映基本的基本面我知道要不要居高思維因為講實在話很多那些傳產業甚至於現在很多人失業那像這些都是未來會變成社會問題那你像這個關稅的不確定性衝擊那些產業尤其傳產真的很嚴重\n\n06:36.497 --> 06:56.082\n對就是在這一方面我們在做金融支持的部分其實我們還是持續的在做當然整個關稅影響到的不是只是金融市場我想整個影響包括我們的進出口都會受到這些影響我只是說我們各司其職我們在金融業的部分有關資本市場以及我們金融支持的部分我們會持續來努力\n\n06:56.772 --> 07:16.708\n那個主委啊我再請教因為八月底時這個公股銀行2025年上半年海外獲利統計出爐八大公股這個海外獲利這個合計占比維持在差不多兩成以上其中又以兆豐銀行接近三成最高\n\n07:17.509 --> 07:33.363\n那主委銀行竟然有相當比例海外獲利的占比那為什麼最近公股銀行持續傳出要診病或裁測的消息我想這一點本席不大了解請主委你來做說明\n\n07:33.863 --> 07:55.648\n我想因為公股當然是因為這部分站在我們金融階等立場我們是尊重公司治理他們自己我們過去確實我們有看到五家公股裁測了12個海外的據點然後主要的地方也是集中在一些地方我想他們自己經有的經營的考量那有些是因為他們確實在業務上面已經做了一些調整我想在\n\n07:56.548 --> 08:12.733\n過去我們是會去了解希望他們還是兼顧到一些比如說有一些我們的客戶的一些的需求但是呢最後他們也都做出這樣的決定我們是表示尊重不過我們還是會關切是否有這樣他們這樣裁測是否適當\n\n08:13.433 --> 08:33.070\n主委啊就以您專業的立場供股行庫整併或裁測除了營運獲利考量外是不是也有政策目的考量的成分那你認為近期像川普經貿關稅這些政策是不是也是國內供股行庫海外據點發生變化的一個原因呢\n\n08:33.550 --> 09:01.631\n我想這原因非常的複雜因為就是說比如說我們在就以國內的金融機構設立分支機構為例他也是過去曾經有一段是高峰期大家都希望來設分行但是隨著我們的經營型態已經客戶需求以及客戶行為的改變他也要做這個調整相對的隨著國際市場的改變那實際上這個他們在做這些調整我們是覺得只要是符合他們公司自己程序以及他們業務上的考量我覺得我們都會尊重\n\n09:02.511 --> 09:21.059\n主委按照公股銀行海外據點似乎有加速來整併的狀況且根據各銀行的說法策點主要包括政局不穩營運成本高資源配置效率低以及數位化趨勢的改變\n\n09:22.419 --> 09:38.311\n這些金融的服務模式那我請問主委公股銀行海外據點加速整併是不是代表台灣我們的政府啊對新南向政策計畫也必須做出相當程度的調整你認為呢\n\n09:39.231 --> 10:02.571\n其實本來事業經營就要保持高度的靈活性以及適應環境的改變像比如這次我們有看到有些光谷測它是測在某些特定地區因為它的整個整個的經營環境已經做了改變那我想這部分或是它商機已經不在或是因為其他比如說的因素不穩定的時候它可能就會測走我想這個大概是經營商業上也是要保有一定的彈性\n\n10:03.953 --> 10:18.955\n這個其實我們也可以看到我們這個國營在海外的這樣那個擴張確實在最近幾年已經展現它的成效陳柱剛才指示就是說他們現在獲利海外獲利越高也成為很重要的獲利的引擎\n\n10:19.375 --> 10:34.811\n那個主委又或者參與新南向政策的台商早已經出現投資板塊的移動所以說公股銀行才決定部分新南向國家這些海外據點整併或撤離是不是有這樣的考量\n\n10:35.171 --> 10:56.633\n其實我們看到其實看國營這個動向不應該只看公股其他我覺得很多我們是整個民營行業畢竟我們的客戶不是只有公股在服務但是我們也看到我們的銀行其實也保持非常靈活的這樣的一個做法其實我們站在一個金融監理我們是希望他們做好自己的風險評估以及他們公司治理能夠完備這部分我們都尊重他們的經營\n\n10:57.153 --> 11:15.776\n好最後一點我請問主委相較之下未來公股銀行如果追隨台積電海外佈局腳步積極你認為前進日跟美的市場新東向有沒有可能促成公股銀行設置海外據點的另一波熱潮會不會\n\n11:16.451 --> 11:30.458\n其實我覺得我們的公股在過去氣精的部分本來就是他的強項跟隨客戶本來就是他們現在很重要的一個策略的思考我想這部分還是一樣剛剛講說他們會有自己的判斷尊重他們以及發揮他們優勢來進行他業務的拓展好謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n\n","segments":[{"start":15.833,"end":28.697,"text":"謝謝 謝謝主席是不是請彭主委 軍管會彭主委好 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