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00:02:27,792\n我想從全世界各個金融中心發展的歷程當然有它很多的元素稅賦的優惠確實是一個在國際上非常重要的競爭的優勢雖然你現在有一個初步的進展但是如果沒有財政部的配合還有需不需要央行對於我們外匯管制的相關的放鬆呢\n\n7\n00:02:28,092 --> 00:02:50,855\n是不需要跟委員報告其實我們有很多面向可以推動有一個像我們這次的發展是希望以流財跟引資並重我想比如流財的部分當然是留住本國資產我們現在有些措施在做但是假設要引資的部分那確實假設有些如果剛剛跟委員報告過如果說我們觀察其他國家的話如果我們在比如說在很多的\n\n8\n00:02:51,736 --> 00:03:07,682\n匯率或是在比如說稅上有一些這個比較方便那當然是有注意但是我們也看到很多的這個中心他也不見得說一定要靠稅那但是我想很多的因素啦那請問一下部長我們莊部長\n\n9\n00:03:10,038 --> 00:03:34,994\n對阿對於稅賦方面會給予相關的協助嗎還是不會我想這個雅致中心這個部分有關稅賦的部分目前現有的一些稅制已經可以提供相關的優惠那如果在執行過程當中如果需要稅賦來相關協助當然我們要考慮所以目前彭主委沒有要求是不是彭主委沒有跟你提出相關的要求跟協助那就我們\n\n10\n00:03:36,034 --> 00:03:54,565\n就是要吸引外資來台很多他們希望對於台幣商品的相關的放鬆我想請問楊總裁你覺得呢你會給予相關的放鬆那當然我們都是配合這個金管會\n\n11\n00:03:55,782 --> 00:04:06,331\n所以對於外匯管制你也會給予放鬆什麼樣的放鬆外匯沒有管制外匯是管理沒有管制好管理你會給予什麼樣的放鬆\n\n12\n00:04:09,252 --> 00:04:36,503\n會當然會放鬆我想要聽你說如果說在哪一方面因為據我了解就是說金管會它的一個推動是一步一步一步來的所以每一次它一步一步的時候我們都是配合它的所以到目前為止它如果說再往前來推動的話中央銀行亦不容辭來配合他們\n\n13\n00:04:37,113 --> 00:04:43,642\n對於台幣的商品的放款當然台幣的商品更沒問題\n\n14\n00:04:45,947 --> 00:05:10,074\n昨天彭主委在財委會有說要就是臺灣對於穩定幣有這樣子發行的空間當然有啊還是有空間的我們知道現在目前美國的穩定幣還有綁定美元或者是相關的國庫券還有美債等\n\n15\n00:05:10,734 --> 00:05:39,403\n那未來台灣的穩定幣的發行是不是要比照美國這樣子辦理穩定幣的監管大體上據我了解美國日本歐洲區還有台灣都大體上都是一樣的都是很類似所以就是會綁定是怎麼樣會綁定那是會一定會會綁定就是穩定幣要綁定台幣或者是我們的公債\n\n16\n00:05:40,824 --> 00:06:01,418\n因為它發行穩定幣的時候它的資產面一定是要高品質的有流動性的一個資產國庫券這個是在裡面存款也是所以在資產面是高品質而且有流動性的一個資產\n\n17\n00:06:02,219 --> 00:06:16,910\n好那如果就是說未來要發行穩定幣是由政府機關還是由其他的金融機構來發行金融機構一般來講是金融機構來發行是讓金融機構來發行是\n\n18\n00:06:19,211 --> 00:06:34,345\n還有彭主委我想要請問你為什麼亞洲資產管理中心要去高雄我認為彰化也是一個很好設立的地點為什麼不來彰化也設因為彰化\n\n19\n00:06:35,987 --> 00:06:54,405\n彰化中彰投周邊共有500萬以上的這樣子的人口數我認為再加上我們有非常多的傳產是供外銷的所以非常多的外商買家會來到我們中部啊會來到彰化啊\n\n20\n00:06:55,026 --> 00:07:10,582\n那是不是讓彰化也成為亞洲資產管理中心的事辦區啊是不是不然你現在其實重大的金融總部都在台北嘛那為什麼你移到高雄為什麼不移到彰化來\n\n21\n00:07:11,904 --> 00:07:35,605\n我想這個是大概我也很高興聽到委員這麼說其實院長也指示過就是說任何一個縣市只要一道彰化來有這個意願能夠提供實質的行政或是其他方面的協助中央這邊今晚會這邊非常樂意的因為我們的政策是發展台灣為亞洲資產關係中心是台灣我們是當然希望擴散到全台灣去\n\n22\n00:07:36,125 --> 00:08:00,531\n但是因為過去會選擇高雄當作第一站的示範點其實高雄在過去幾年來一直在這方面有一些已經有一些基礎在做了再來還有很多的他們願意提供很多具體的這樣一個行政措施我們就參考像日本的做法我們設立一個專區其實各個地方政府可以拿出他們自己的特色我們可以來做這件事情我們也願意非常願意來配合\n\n23\n00:08:00,899 --> 00:08:27,733\n好那我還有一個國際就是金融方面的相關問題剛好兩位專家都在這裡我想就教一下就是現在目前法國跟英國的政府債務他們都佔GDP高達114%跟103%這樣子高目前有沒有可能就是說\n\n24\n00:08:29,414 --> 00:08:53,693\n會像過去一樣有引發歐債這樣子相關的危機以及目前我們主要的金融機構對於法國對於英國目前的相關的商品曝險的部位有多大那當然是不是會造成相關的影響那我想要就教兩位\n\n25\n00:08:57,144 --> 00:09:20,965\n我先跟委員回答一下當然比如說我們現在手上沒有具體的數據啦但是我們會後可以提供我認為你們應該去整理一下好不好警管會應該整理一下就是各金融機關對於相關曝險當然不一定會發生這樣的危機但是我們總是要知道說我們現在目前的部位是如何好不好\n\n26\n00:09:21,986 --> 00:09:33,039\n我們一定有這個數據而且各個金融機構也有它一定的監控我們金管會這邊也有這個數字在做監控我們會後來提供給委員參考好啊楊總裁你覺得會不會\n\n27\n00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:55,554\n我覺得以目前來講這是一個政治的紛擾當然政治的紛擾可能也會波及到金融面不過以目前歐元區還有英國本身的經濟還有金融來看的話應該到目前為止還好\n\n28\n00:09:56,796 --> 00:10:24,010\n到目前為止還好目前就是歐洲的這個部分是還好那彭主委我想要問的是現在美國的這個關稅就是20%疊加那對於我們上市櫃公司整體的獲利情況有什麼樣子的影響你們今晚會有沒有做相關的盤查其實這件事情發生以後我們透過交易所跟櫃買就對所有上市櫃公司做過幾次的調查\n\n29\n00:10:25,091 --> 00:10:51,637\n我們也去根據不同的地區比如說特別是我們在比較高關稅的地區的影響他們也問卷回來大概比如說這個數字具體的數字我可能不是很記得不過大概是受到影響我記得上市櫃公司受到比較大的影響大概占18%左右還有就是說它其實這樣整體來看的話從一個整體上市櫃公司來講其實影響還是一個在一個有限的範圍之內\n\n30\n00:10:53,572 --> 00:11:11,937\n我希望說對於我們虛擬資產的法律相關的制定麻煩兩位專家一定要審慎的評估那一定是要保障所有投資人以及穩定金融的安定\n\n31\n00:11:12,937 --> 00:11:39,580\n這才是我們對於因為虛擬的資產現在已經是一個不可逆的世界的趨勢了但是怎麼樣子把風險控管我相信風險控管楊總裁你是專家是不是謝謝你那你應該要對相關的法令也要進行相關的審慎的評估給予建議好不好是\n\n32\n00:11:40,209 --> 00:11:57,392\n沒問題謝謝你好謝謝那我想要請問的是謝謝兩位我想要請問我們院長就是說大陸宣布對於稀土產品的出口管制那\n\n33\n00:11:58,154 --> 00:12:18,545\n對於我們半導體還有我們相關的產業業者很憂心喔會不會造成我們目前在產品的供應鏈上面有斷鏈的這樣子的危機呢有沒有\n\n34\n00:12:19,246 --> 00:12:38,161\n好報告委美中之間這種談判的變化相當的迅速多元那最近發生這個狀況我們還在評估到底含矽土的這種產品在台灣外銷或是在台灣出口的這個過程當中會遭到什麼樣的一個衝擊另外就是\n\n35\n00:12:38,982 --> 00:12:57,728\n他們兩方兩個大國之間談判這個促銷會延續多久會不會有其他的變化我認為經濟部都已經在做這樣的一個一個對可是我想要了解的是說因為這一波的大陸的稀土禁止出口會不會影響到我們的半導體還有我們的\n\n36\n00:13:00,949 --> 00:13:26,863\n電池以及馬達這會影響的層面有像電動車產業也好像我們的無人機的產業尤其是我們現在加大對於無人機的採購但是如果對於稀土的限制出口會不會對於我們這樣子一個無人機的採購會造成相關的影響\n\n37\n00:13:27,863 --> 00:13:37,452\n幫我說明一下謝謝你半導體的部分因為我們的製程上所需要的稀土這一次沒有在管制範圍裡面所以影響比較小\n\n38\n00:13:38,823 --> 00:14:04,516\n另外一個您剛剛提到的有可能是磁鐵的部分永續磁因為它高速馬達會受到一些影響這個當然會影響到汽車或者是無人機因為它都要用到高速馬達但是也跟委員報告因為這個稀土基本上我們知道說當一公佈以後國際市場上的稀土價格就上漲但是基本上這個稀土在整個產品的比例\n\n39\n00:14:05,496 --> 00:14:24,025\n非常非常小成本比例非常小所以即便它漲了百分之二十三十在整個產品裡面還是小的部分所以到底會影響到整個物價上漲多少我們可能還要再觀察一下所以如果我們沒有就是大陸它禁止出口的時候\n\n40\n00:14:24,485 --> 00:14:43,837\n那有没有办法从其他因为我看到了经济部他所说的是说从我们既有回收的商品里面在存化提炼出稀土那我想要知道是我们这样子就是你你回收的商品到底有多少\n\n41\n00:14:44,457 --> 00:15:11,043\n以及你提煉出來純化的稀土的數量到底多少報告委員現在因為中國採取這樣的做法也不是第一次之前在2010年已經有採取所以每一個國家事實上都在分散這樣的一個可能的風險包括有些國家也開始開採主要的原因導致說因為開採跟精煉的過程當中\n\n42\n00:15:11,943 --> 00:15:31,876\n他需要用到強酸等等一些情況可能會對環境上有所破壞但是一旦如果遭受到這樣的管制的話免不了還是要持續剛剛委員提到的就是說有些企鵝用的再回縮再精煉日本事實上一直在做這樣的事情我們台灣也要做嗎\n\n43\n00:15:32,737 --> 00:16:02,097\n但我們現在開始要輔導廠商在開始做這樣的事情因為過去來講我們進口的都是半成品材料或者是設備基本上這些歐美國家跟日本他們已經做成半成品了所以稀土的原始是他們在進口我們跟他買我剛才跟委員報告的就是說這個稀土占整個它材料的成本基本上是比較小一點所以還是要看它的供應鏈關係才能夠判斷\n\n44\n00:16:04,259 --> 00:16:19,734\n那這個部分是你主責還是環境部回收純鏈這個部分如果說整個從這個產業發展的需求者是我們但是如果是回收的產業管器官是環境部\n\n45\n00:16:20,514 --> 00:16:41,959\n環境部要協助報告委員我們已經在過去這幾個月從美國有關稅戰爭開始關稅議題開始我們就在做準備所以我們也現在正在盤點例如說我們有幾家做得不錯的我們希望他變成一個稀有貴金屬的一個國家隊那我們會跟經濟部密切來合作現在在整隊當中因為我覺得環境部好像\n\n46\n00:16:42,399 --> 00:17:10,392\n最近從很多次的一個就是從颱風也好風災也好剛好院長在這裡我也要講啊就是說在這一次的風災當中我說的這非常小的事情一個田中的稻埂它過去就是說讓它自然腐化的就是環境部它規劃的是讓它自然在環境中腐化但是在這一次的風災當中很多的稻田沒有辦法承受自然腐化啊\n\n47\n00:17:10,832 --> 00:17:29,751\n它如果放在稻田旁邊的時候當風災水來了它就會堵塞所有的排水口甚至影響我們的發電設施水利設施等等的這個情況環境部都沒有預先去盤查你沒有預先盤查本來可以\n\n48\n00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:43,772\n對於業者來講如果稻穀的回收沒有辦法作為很好的SRF等等的材料的時候那我們未來要怎麼樣做\n\n49\n00:17:46,466 --> 00:18:03,595\n這個東西我也救教你很多次了報告委員那個倒梗是一件事情因為當地有人說希望可以焚燒但是我們認為這個會污染到空氣那你不要焚燒你要提出第二個做法嗎不要讓他對於我們風災以後的二次的傷害\n\n50\n00:18:04,195 --> 00:18:31,549\n是不是我們競速才能夠整理好就是說風災結束後競速才能整理好環境不會影響到我們民眾的日常生活不是嗎是這個部分因為稻梗它可以用一些加速腐化的方式來進行我們現在在研究這樣的一個方案還在腐化你還在加速腐化因為這個其實速度要一個禮拜所以這個我們在想更快的一個方法\n\n51\n00:18:32,049 --> 00:18:59,757\n對啊你如果風災又來像上一次七八月的連日的豪雨你還在腐化還來得及嗎來不及你再塞再塞然後塞了所有的排水設施所有的集水設施所有的發電設施這會對於我們民眾民生產生非常重大的影響這非常小的事情這不需要修法而是應該在行政措施上面有作為是不是\n\n52\n00:19:00,357 --> 00:19:27,606\n是這個我們會跟農業部一起來努力那巴奧委員您提到的稀有貴金屬的確我們是在很努力在盤點因為這個是我們國家未來最重要的一個資產我們希望做到內循環努力來做那美國現在準備花10億美元做緊急的戰備的採購那我們有沒有這樣子相關的打算呢我們是現在進行的是提煉這個精煉的技術是不是\n\n53\n00:19:28,582 --> 00:19:50,122\n目前我們現在在盤點因為我們很多的業者其實都很隱藏在社會當中他沒有讓別人知道但是其實他跟我們的互動非常的密切例如說屋啊菇啊等等的鎳啊桶啊他們都很積極在做做內循環的工作不過他們目前有很多直接出口到日本去我們希望他留在台灣我們自己用\n\n54\n00:19:50,302 --> 00:20:05,009\n所以要限制相關商品的出口嗎限制相關重金屬回收精煉的產品的出口嗎我們希望他的技術提升然後可以在臺灣我們可以自己拿來用變成我們的戰備的物資\n\n55\n00:20:06,782 --> 00:20:30,120\n院長是這樣子嗎我們當然希望這些物資如果能夠在分析的成本上面我們協助他能夠來降低他留在國內讓我們可以做充分的使用對我們百工百業甚至我們的國防工業都有實質上的需求跟協助謝謝兩位我想要再請我們農業部長農業部請備詢\n\n56\n00:20:44,242 --> 00:21:04,819\n我想請教一下就是在美國他希望說我們可以排除在關稅談判上面可以排除就是貿易方面的障礙就是非貿易方面的障礙我想請問我們過去就是說他會不會要求就是稻米的進口是不是要取消這個關稅會不會\n\n57\n00:21:07,237 --> 00:21:25,868\n我想因為現在台北談判還在進行中那相關的談判我之前也說了就是不管是美國或台灣我們有各自的一個期待但是農業部一定是以在確保糧食安全然後讓我們的整個農業產業環境能夠永續發展還有一個就是\n\n58\n00:21:26,408 --> 00:21:44,775\n能夠維護我們農民權益的這三個前提之下我們跟美國一直在持續的談判我昨天也有就照於部長關於蝴蝶蘭的事情是不是如果蝴蝶蘭要赴美去做大苗小苗的生產我們會使用台唐的土地給予協助\n\n59\n00:21:45,855 --> 00:21:59,957\n那對於我們稻米出口呢你已經有到日本去做相關的設點考察那對於台灣的稻米出口你說過去你說即便是加上關稅\n\n60\n00:22:01,889 --> 00:22:08,375\n我們都有相關的價值跟日本米比起來我們還是有競爭力就這個部分你有什麼樣的進展\n\n61\n00:22:17,642 --> 00:22:35,536\n我想跟委員報告就是我們稻米的自給率大概是108所以我們有足夠的能量是可以外銷的特別是我們的產品優質那我以日本日本的市場為例因為日本的市場進去同樣要有關稅配額還有關稅的這些問題但是以今年來講我們大概\n\n62\n00:22:36,517 --> 00:23:01,342\n銷到日本已經將近8000噸左右同樣的我們走的是高端市場的時候就會把這些關稅的這些差異性能夠做部分的抵銷我們不會走到平價的市場我們走高端市場日本我們現在透過幾個重要的通路也的確達成了但是我想要知道的是到底有多少過去我們輸日的可能都是變成次級品\n\n63\n00:23:02,162 --> 00:23:17,055\n或者是就是輸到我們的稻米出口都是變成赤餅皮可能變成飼料的用米那我們現在要走高值化你要給出成績啊你沒有成績大家怎麼敢跟你一起去啊是不是\n\n64\n00:23:18,075 --> 00:23:47,115\n我謝謝委員的這樣的一個詢問我要跟委員說明我們輸到日本的部分絕對不會用次級米去輸出的部分反而是我們現在應該去加強我們的所有的不管是公糧倉庫民糧倉庫本身的這些相關的儲存稻米儲存的環境的改善那環境改善了以後相對的我們在一起做當期的這些稻米能夠及時輸出的話那就不會變到所謂的飼料米這樣子\n\n65\n00:23:48,456 --> 00:24:03,194\n對但你要我是說我們當然希望是這樣子的情況啊但是你要給出成績單啊是不是你要有相關的成績不是說去設一個代表處而已啊我們絕對不會我想到各地去做行銷站\n\n66\n00:24:04,475 --> 00:24:23,337\n用一個常駐點並不是我們所期待的我們希望說能夠有通路的鏈結特別是我們台灣有很在日本或是在新加坡有很多不同的米的品牌特別是像那個富里的這些有機米他就在日本皇后的有機米這個在日本就非常有名\n\n67\n00:24:23,797 --> 00:24:51,135\n所以我們希望說用品牌的方式結合我們的優質的方式去做行銷我們彰化的覆米也很有名耶你知道彰化也有彰化也有對啊你都沒有帶我們彰化去然後也沒給出生雞蛋絕對有啦會啦我們一起來努力我想我們跟一些稻米的輸出還有一些民糧不管是民糧的這些糧商我們都會一起來努力好謝謝陳部長我還要請交通部的部長\n\n68\n00:24:53,397 --> 00:24:54,382\n好請交通部陳部長\n\n69\n00:25:03,041 --> 00:25:29,278\n陳部長我要就教於你我想要請問高鐵的臨近車廂現在已經發生了相關的婦女帶了小朋友上車以後當然了現在能生好幾個的很少有一個吵另外一個坐在車廂這要怎麼處理這有沒有違反了我們相關的兒少法的相關的原則\n\n70\n00:25:32,794 --> 00:25:53,154\n報告委員您所說的這個案例石部長說有欸是不是不是高鐵公司有出來澄清很像沒有這件事情沒有這件事情您說的這個案例啦一個媽媽把孩子留一個在車廂那另外一位帶到外面去的這個事情高鐵公司有出來澄清沒有這件事這第一點所以是新聞不實的報導\n\n71\n00:25:55,502 --> 00:26:15,068\n呃我不曉得是不是新聞不實的報導但高鐵公司有出來澄清這件事但是委員您在說的這個臨近車廂還是他不瞭解實際的情況因為他每天的車次怎麼多他們有調查過是不是他不瞭解實際的情況好那就算如此未來發生同樣的情況的時候怎麼樣讓臨近車廂與兒少保護能夠\n\n72\n00:26:19,509 --> 00:26:36,629\n報告委員這個部分其實全民都很關心您進車廂的部分其實相當多的民眾是支持哪個部分呢是支持說例如說講手機就盡量小聲或者到玄關去講或者是您在看影片用3C的產品在看影片的時候必須要戴耳機不要去吵到旁邊的人\n\n73\n00:26:37,289 --> 00:27:00,800\n這個部分其實我相信社會是有大部分的共識但是對於兒少的部分我認為高鐵公司可以做得更細緻更細膩讓所有的爸媽不要有擔心的狀況或者是有壓力這個部分是高鐵公司必須要努力的部分那這個部分其實我看這兩天高鐵公司也做出一些精進的方案他們也希望說不要給爸爸媽媽有這個壓力我自己有三個小朋友\n\n74\n00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:18,774\n不是不是你現在講的是我是說這已經涉及到實際就是說我們在鄰近車廂的使用上面跟大家現在目前就是說不同的族群會遇到的問題不一樣那是不是應該要設親子友善的車廂呢你認為\n\n75\n00:27:19,934 --> 00:27:41,268\n親子友善的車廂這個要由高鐵公司他們去討論你沒有辦法去跟高鐵公司說你跟矢澤部長不好是不是我也可以跟他們討論你跟矢澤董事長不好是不是我想是這個樣子不一定要親子友善車廂而是每一個車廂應該對親子都要是友善的我覺得我們的國家應該是要這樣子裝潢才是正確的\n\n76\n00:27:42,949 --> 00:27:56,205\n我還要請問你現在我看到交通部對於高齡化社會的交通補助都是在公共運輸但是\n\n77\n00:27:58,147 --> 00:28:11,441\n除了六都以外甚至有一些六都我認為公共運輸都沒有就是非常的完善的情況下當然你們也補助了啊你們也補助了計程車資嘛但是\n\n78\n00:28:13,403 --> 00:28:37,496\n陳部長你知道嗎彰化跟台北是不一樣的計程車在彰化隨便一座都是700塊800塊上千耶那你的車子補助這樣子怎麼足夠呢那我也看到了你們提出了需求反應式的公車就是給鄉鎮公所去處理但是\n\n79\n00:28:38,456 --> 00:29:07,514\n但是沒有相關的經費啊你要請司機啊是不是那你這個補貼是不是應該要做不同的對於就是比較城鄉差距沒有像都市型公共運輸這麼完整的你是不是應該要做不一樣的這樣子的方式的協助啊所有的鄉鎮市政府如果是比較偏鄉有這個需求申請幸福巴士或者幸福小黃我們都有相關的經費在補助\n\n80\n00:29:08,014 --> 00:29:35,864\n對我是說還有其他的還有其他的部分就是說你還有車你只補助了車嘛那有路線嘛那當然營運他需要的請司機相關的油料的這個部分有沒有這個我們是長期在做補助長期跟地方政府都有做合作這個部分我們持續在推動目前的普及率已經到達97%那我們希望能夠推到100%這個部分我們還在努力\n\n81\n00:29:36,564 --> 00:30:01,545\n沒有我覺得說對於我們公共運輸的這個相關的補助那對於高齡化的社會我認為我們交通部對於偏鄉以及對於六都以外的縣市應該要給予尤其是我們彰化縣應該要給予鄉鎮公所或者是像這樣子需求反應式的公車更多的相關的補助\n\n82\n00:30:02,225 --> 00:30:17,616\n您關心這個議題交通部曾經在行政院的院會裡面正式報告過我們有做了相關的採視當天我還記得我非常的肯定交通部的做法或許這個相關資料沒有辦法到委員能夠了解我們對長者的注意偏鄉的幸福小黃幸福\n\n83\n00:30:18,596 --> 00:30:35,750\n幸福巴士我們都有相關的補助政策還有一點就是我們現在目前的車輛要不要設立智慧防撞系統日本好像已經推行了這個新車都有謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n14657\t21320\t謝謝副院長我想要請卓院長還有經管會的彭主委請卓院長還有經管會主委備詢\n33010\t41238\t我看到金管會要推台灣成為亞洲的資產中心管理中心那我想要請問一下目前進度是如何\n42361\t62091\t我想我們在這個計畫中我們在去年9月5號我們揭示大概五大計畫16項措施正在執行我想跟委員報告幾個比較重要的進度我們今年大概4月公佈的高雄市辦專區7月已經開張有33家金融機構進駐已經開始展開各項的業務\n63251\t90876\t我想再來就是我們第一階段的個人儲蓄投資帳戶TISA已經開辦現在大概有差不多4萬人開戶大概金額來到了大概50億左右還有就是我們最近馬上要公布的我們的壯大資本市場計畫就是亞洲納斯達克的計畫也會在21號對外做宣布還有就是我們還有相關的像比如我們放寬一些保險業的投資還有一些我們相關的法規的鬆綁已經超過36項\n93436\t118369\t那需不需要財政部相關的配合接住例如在稅賦方面呢在吸引外資來臺臺灣不是主要的投資就是國際的主要投資市場怎麼樣子吸引國際的資金到臺灣來在稅賦方面呢需不需要財政部給予相關的鬆綁需不需要\n118689\t147792\t我想從全世界各個金融中心發展的歷程當然有它很多的元素稅賦的優惠確實是一個在國際上非常重要的競爭的優勢雖然你現在有一個初步的進展但是如果沒有財政部的配合還有需不需要央行對於我們外匯管制的相關的放鬆呢\n148092\t170855\t是不需要跟委員報告其實我們有很多面向可以推動有一個像我們這次的發展是希望以流財跟引資並重我想比如流財的部分當然是留住本國資產我們現在有些措施在做但是假設要引資的部分那確實假設有些如果剛剛跟委員報告過如果說我們觀察其他國家的話如果我們在比如說在很多的\n171736\t187682\t匯率或是在比如說稅上有一些這個比較方便那當然是有注意但是我們也看到很多的這個中心他也不見得說一定要靠稅那但是我想很多的因素啦那請問一下部長我們莊部長\n190038\t214994\t對阿對於稅賦方面會給予相關的協助嗎還是不會我想這個雅致中心這個部分有關稅賦的部分目前現有的一些稅制已經可以提供相關的優惠那如果在執行過程當中如果需要稅賦來相關協助當然我們要考慮所以目前彭主委沒有要求是不是彭主委沒有跟你提出相關的要求跟協助那就我們\n216034\t234565\t就是要吸引外資來台很多他們希望對於台幣商品的相關的放鬆我想請問楊總裁你覺得呢你會給予相關的放鬆那當然我們都是配合這個金管會\n235782\t246331\t所以對於外匯管制你也會給予放鬆什麼樣的放鬆 外匯沒有管制 外匯是管理沒有管制好 管理 你會給予什麼樣的放鬆\n249252\t276503\t會 當然會放鬆我想要聽你說如果說在哪一方面因為據我了解就是說金管會它的一個推動是一步一步一步來的所以每一次它一步一步的時候我們都是配合它的所以到目前為止它如果說再往前來推動的話中央銀行亦不容辭來配合他們\n277113\t283642\t對於台幣的商品的放款當然台幣的商品更沒問題\n285947\t310074\t昨天彭主委在財委會有說要就是臺灣對於穩定幣有這樣子發行的空間當然有啊 還是有空間的我們知道現在目前美國的穩定幣還有綁定美元或者是相關的國庫券還有美債等\n310734\t339403\t那未來台灣的穩定幣的發行是不是要比照美國這樣子辦理穩定幣的監管大體上據我了解美國日本歐洲區還有台灣都大體上都是一樣的都是很類似所以就是會綁定是怎麼樣會綁定那是會一定會會綁定就是穩定幣要綁定台幣或者是我們的公債\n340824\t361418\t因為它發行穩定幣的時候它的資產面一定是要高品質的有流動性的一個資產國庫券這個是在裡面存款也是所以在資產面是高品質而且有流動性的一個資產\n362219\t376910\t好 那如果就是說未來要發行穩定幣是由政府機關還是由其他的金融機構來發行金融機構 一般來講是金融機構來發行是讓金融機構來發行 是\n379211\t394345\t還有彭主委我想要請問你為什麼亞洲資產管理中心要去高雄我認為彰化也是一個很好設立的地點為什麼不來彰化也設因為彰化\n395987\t414405\t彰化中彰投周邊共有500萬以上的這樣子的人口數我認為再加上我們有非常多的傳產是供外銷的所以非常多的外商買家會來到我們中部啊會來到彰化啊\n415026\t430582\t那是不是讓彰化也成為亞洲資產管理中心的事辦區啊是不是不然你現在其實重大的金融總部都在台北嘛那為什麼你移到高雄為什麼不移到彰化來\n431904\t455605\t我想這個是大概我也很高興聽到委員這麼說其實院長也指示過就是說任何一個縣市只要一道彰化來有這個意願能夠提供實質的行政或是其他方面的協助中央這邊今晚會這邊非常樂意的因為我們的政策是發展台灣為亞洲資產關係中心是台灣我們是當然希望擴散到全台灣去\n456125\t480531\t但是因為過去會選擇高雄當作第一站的示範點其實高雄在過去幾年來一直在這方面有一些已經有一些基礎在做了再來還有很多的他們願意提供很多具體的這樣一個行政措施我們就參考像日本的做法我們設立一個專區其實各個地方政府可以拿出他們自己的特色我們可以來做這件事情我們也願意非常願意來配合\n480899\t507733\t好那我還有一個國際就是金融方面的相關問題剛好兩位專家都在這裡我想就教一下就是現在目前法國跟英國的政府債務他們都佔GDP高達114%跟103%這樣子高目前有沒有可能就是說\n509414\t533693\t會像過去一樣有引發歐債這樣子相關的危機以及目前我們主要的金融機構對於法國對於英國目前的相關的商品曝險的部位有多大那當然是不是會造成相關的影響那我想要就教兩位\n537144\t560965\t我先跟委員回答一下當然比如說我們現在手上沒有具體的數據啦但是我們會後可以提供我認為你們應該去整理一下好不好警管會應該整理一下就是各金融機關對於相關曝險當然不一定會發生這樣的危機但是我們總是要知道說我們現在目前的部位是如何好不好\n561986\t573039\t我們一定有這個數據而且各個金融機構也有它一定的監控我們金管會這邊也有這個數字在做監控我們會後來提供給委員參考好啊 楊總裁你覺得會不會\n574080\t595554\t我覺得以目前來講 這是一個政治的紛擾當然政治的紛擾 可能也會波及到金融面不過以目前歐元區 還有英國本身的經濟還有金融來看的話 應該到目前為止還好\n596796\t624010\t到目前為止還好目前就是歐洲的這個部分是還好那彭主委我想要問的是現在美國的這個關稅就是20%疊加那對於我們上市櫃公司整體的獲利情況有什麼樣子的影響你們今晚會有沒有做相關的盤查其實這件事情發生以後我們透過交易所跟櫃買就對所有上市櫃公司做過幾次的調查\n625091\t651637\t我們也去根據不同的地區比如說特別是我們在比較高關稅的地區的影響他們也問卷回來大概比如說這個數字具體的數字我可能不是很記得不過大概是受到影響我記得上市櫃公司受到比較大的影響大概占18%左右還有就是說它其實這樣整體來看的話從一個整體上市櫃公司來講其實影響還是一個在一個有限的範圍之內\n653572\t671937\t我希望說對於我們虛擬資產的法律相關的制定麻煩兩位專家一定要審慎的評估那一定是要保障所有投資人以及穩定金融的安定\n672937\t699580\t這才是我們對於因為虛擬的資產現在已經是一個不可逆的世界的趨勢了但是怎麼樣子把風險控管我相信風險控管楊總裁你是專家是不是謝謝你那你應該要對相關的法令也要進行相關的審慎的評估給予建議好不好是\n700209\t717392\t沒問題謝謝你好謝謝那我想要請問的是謝謝兩位我想要請問我們院長就是說大陸宣布對於稀土產品的出口管制那\n718154\t738545\t對於我們半導體還有我們相關的產業業者很憂心喔會不會造成我們目前在產品的供應鏈上面有斷鏈的這樣子的危機呢有沒有\n739246\t758161\t好 報告委美中之間這種談判的變化相當的迅速多元那最近發生這個狀況我們還在評估到底含矽土的這種產品在台灣外銷或是在台灣出口的這個過程當中會遭到什麼樣的一個衝擊另外就是\n758982\t777728\t他們兩方兩個大國之間談判這個促銷會延續多久會不會有其他的變化我認為經濟部都已經在做這樣的一個一個對可是我想要了解的是說因為這一波的大陸的稀土禁止出口會不會影響到我們的半導體還有我們的\n780949\t806863\t電池以及馬達這會影響的層面有像電動車產業也好像我們的無人機的產業尤其是我們現在加大對於無人機的採購但是如果對於稀土的限制出口會不會對於我們這樣子一個無人機的採購會造成相關的影響\n807863\t817452\t幫我說明一下 謝謝你半導體的部分因為我們的製程上所需要的稀土這一次沒有在管制範圍裡面所以影響比較小\n818823\t844516\t另外一個您剛剛提到的有可能是磁鐵的部分永續磁因為它高速馬達會受到一些影響這個當然會影響到汽車或者是無人機因為它都要用到高速馬達但是也跟委員報告因為這個稀土基本上我們知道說當一公佈以後國際市場上的稀土價格就上漲但是基本上這個稀土在整個產品的比例\n845496\t864025\t非常非常小成本比例非常小所以即便它漲了百分之二十三十在整個產品裡面還是小的部分所以到底會影響到整個物價上漲多少我們可能還要再觀察一下所以如果我們沒有就是大陸它禁止出口的時候\n864485\t883837\t那有没有办法从其他因为我看到了经济部他所说的是说从我们既有回收的商品里面在存化提炼出稀土那我想要知道是我们这样子就是你你回收的商品到底有多少\n884457\t911043\t以及你提煉出來純化的稀土的數量到底多少報告委員現在因為中國採取這樣的做法也不是第一次之前在2010年已經有採取所以每一個國家事實上都在分散這樣的一個可能的風險包括有些國家也開始開採主要的原因導致說因為開採跟精煉的過程當中\n911943\t931876\t他需要用到強酸等等一些情況可能會對環境上有所破壞但是一旦如果遭受到這樣的管制的話免不了還是要持續剛剛委員提到的就是說有些企鵝用的再回縮再精煉日本事實上一直在做這樣的事情我們台灣也要做嗎\n932737\t962097\t但我們現在開始要輔導廠商在開始做這樣的事情因為過去來講我們進口的都是半成品材料或者是設備基本上這些歐美國家跟日本他們已經做成半成品了所以稀土的原始是他們在進口我們跟他買我剛才跟委員報告的就是說這個稀土占整個它材料的成本基本上是比較小一點所以還是要看它的供應鏈關係才能夠判斷\n964259\t979734\t那這個部分是你主責還是環境部回收純鏈這個部分如果說整個從這個產業發展的需求者是我們但是如果是回收的產業管器官是環境部\n980514\t1001959\t環境部要協助報告委員 我們已經在過去這幾個月從美國有關稅戰爭開始關稅議題開始 我們就在做準備所以我們也現在正在盤點例如說我們有幾家做得不錯的我們希望他變成一個稀有貴金屬的一個國家隊那我們會跟經濟部密切來合作現在在整隊當中因為我覺得環境部好像\n1002399\t1030392\t最近從很多次的一個就是從颱風也好風災也好剛好院長在這裡我也要講啊就是說在這一次的風災當中我說的這非常小的事情一個田中的稻埂它過去就是說讓它自然腐化的就是環境部它規劃的是讓它自然在環境中腐化但是在這一次的風災當中很多的稻田沒有辦法承受自然腐化啊\n1030832\t1049751\t它如果放在稻田旁邊的時候當風災水來了它就會堵塞所有的排水口甚至影響我們的發電設施水利設施等等的這個情況環境部都沒有預先去盤查你沒有預先盤查本來可以\n1051175\t1063772\t對於業者來講 如果稻穀的回收沒有辦法作為很好的SRF等等的材料的時候那我們未來要怎麼樣做\n1066466\t1083595\t這個東西我也救教你很多次了報告委員那個倒梗是一件事情因為當地有人說希望可以焚燒但是我們認為這個會污染到空氣那你不要焚燒你要提出第二個做法嗎不要讓他對於我們風災以後的二次的傷害\n1084195\t1111549\t是不是 我們競速才能夠整理好就是說風災結束後競速才能整理好環境不會影響到我們民眾的日常生活不是嗎是 這個部分因為稻梗它可以用一些加速腐化的方式來進行我們現在在研究這樣的一個方案還在腐化 你還在加速腐化因為這個其實速度要一個禮拜所以這個我們在想更快的一個方法\n1112049\t1139757\t對啊你如果風災又來像上一次七八月的連日的豪雨你還在腐化還來得及嗎來不及你再塞再塞然後塞了所有的排水設施所有的集水設施所有的發電設施這會對於我們民眾民生產生非常重大的影響這非常小的事情這不需要修法而是應該在行政措施上面有作為是不是\n1140357\t1167606\t是 這個我們會跟農業部一起來努力那巴奧委員您提到的稀有貴金屬的確我們是在很努力在盤點因為這個是我們國家未來最重要的一個資產我們希望做到內循環 努力來做那美國現在準備花10億美元做緊急的戰備的採購那我們有沒有這樣子相關的打算呢我們是現在進行的是提煉這個精煉的技術是不是\n1168582\t1190122\t目前我們現在在盤點因為我們很多的業者其實都很隱藏在社會當中他沒有讓別人知道但是其實他跟我們的互動非常的密切例如說屋啊 菇啊等等的 鎳啊 桶啊他們都很積極在做做內循環的工作不過他們目前有很多直接出口到日本去我們希望他留在台灣我們自己用\n1190302\t1205009\t所以要限制相關商品的出口嗎限制相關重金屬回收精煉的產品的出口嗎我們希望他的技術提升然後可以在臺灣我們可以自己拿來用變成我們的戰備的物資\n1206782\t1230120\t院長是這樣子嗎我們當然希望這些物資如果能夠在分析的成本上面我們協助他能夠來降低他留在國內讓我們可以做充分的使用對我們百工百業甚至我們的國防工業都有實質上的需求跟協助謝謝兩位我想要再請我們農業部長農業部請備詢\n1244242\t1264819\t我想請教一下就是在美國他希望說我們可以排除在關稅談判上面可以排除就是貿易方面的障礙就是非貿易方面的障礙我想請問我們過去就是說他會不會要求就是稻米的進口是不是要取消這個關稅會不會\n1267237\t1285868\t我想因為現在台北談判還在進行中那相關的談判我之前也說了就是不管是美國或台灣我們有各自的一個期待但是農業部一定是以在確保糧食安全然後讓我們的整個農業產業環境能夠永續發展還有一個就是\n1286408\t1304775\t能夠維護我們農民權益的這三個前提之下我們跟美國一直在持續的談判我昨天也有就照於部長關於蝴蝶蘭的事情 是不是如果蝴蝶蘭要赴美去做大苗小苗的生產我們會使用台唐的土地給予協助\n1305855\t1319957\t那對於我們稻米出口呢你已經有到日本去做相關的設點考察那對於台灣的稻米出口你說過去你說即便是加上關稅\n1321889\t1328375\t我們都有相關的價值跟日本米比起來我們還是有競爭力就這個部分你有什麼樣的進展\n1337642\t1355536\t我想跟委員報告就是我們稻米的自給率大概是108所以我們有足夠的能量是可以外銷的特別是我們的產品優質那我以日本日本的市場為例因為日本的市場進去同樣要有關稅配額還有關稅的這些問題但是以今年來講我們大概\n1356517\t1381342\t銷到日本已經將近8000噸左右同樣的我們走的是高端市場的時候就會把這些關稅的這些差異性能夠做部分的抵銷我們不會走到平價的市場我們走高端市場日本我們現在透過幾個重要的通路也的確達成了但是我想要知道的是到底有多少過去我們輸日的可能都是變成次級品\n1382162\t1397055\t或者是就是輸到我們的稻米出口都是變成赤餅皮可能變成飼料的用米那我們現在要走高值化你要給出成績啊你沒有成績大家怎麼敢跟你一起去啊是不是\n1398075\t1427115\t我謝謝委員的這樣的一個詢問我要跟委員說明我們輸到日本的部分絕對不會用次級米去輸出的部分反而是我們現在應該去加強我們的所有的不管是公糧倉庫民糧倉庫本身的這些相關的儲存稻米儲存的環境的改善那環境改善了以後相對的我們在一起做當期的這些稻米能夠及時輸出的話那就不會變到所謂的飼料米這樣子\n1428456\t1443194\t對 但你要我是說我們當然希望是這樣子的情況啊但是你要給出成績單啊是不是你要有相關的成績不是說去設一個代表處而已啊我們絕對不會我想到各地去做行銷站\n1444475\t1463337\t用一個常駐點並不是我們所期待的我們希望說能夠有通路的鏈結特別是我們台灣有很在日本或是在新加坡有很多不同的米的品牌特別是像那個富里的這些有機米他就在日本皇后的有機米這個在日本就非常有名\n1463797\t1491135\t所以我們希望說用品牌的方式結合我們的優質的方式去做行銷我們彰化的覆米也很有名耶你知道彰化也有彰化也有對啊 你都沒有帶我們彰化去然後也沒給出生雞蛋絕對有啦會啦 我們一起來努力我想我們跟一些稻米的輸出還有一些民糧不管是民糧的這些糧商我們都會一起來努力好 謝謝陳部長我還要請交通部的部長\n1493397\t1494382\t好 請交通部陳部長\n1503041\t1529278\t陳部長 我要就教於你我想要請問高鐵的臨近車廂現在已經發生了相關的婦女帶了小朋友上車以後當然了現在能生好幾個的很少有一個吵 另外一個坐在車廂這要怎麼處理這有沒有違反了我們相關的兒少法的相關的原則\n1532794\t1553154\t報告委員您所說的這個案例石部長說有欸是不是不是高鐵公司有出來澄清很像沒有這件事情沒有這件事情您說的這個案例啦一個媽媽把孩子留一個在車廂那另外一位帶到外面去的這個事情高鐵公司有出來澄清沒有這件事這第一點所以是新聞不實的報導\n1555502\t1575068\t呃 我不曉得是不是新聞不實的報導但高鐵公司有出來澄清這件事但是委員您在說的這個臨近車廂還是他不瞭解實際的情況因為他每天的車次怎麼多他們有調查過是不是他不瞭解實際的情況好 那就算如此未來發生同樣的情況的時候怎麼樣讓臨近車廂與兒少保護能夠\n1579509\t1596629\t報告委員這個部分其實全民都很關心您進車廂的部分其實相當多的民眾是支持哪個部分呢是支持說例如說講手機就盡量小聲或者到玄關去講或者是您在看影片用3C的產品在看影片的時候必須要戴耳機不要去吵到旁邊的人\n1597289\t1620800\t這個部分其實我相信社會是有大部分的共識但是對於兒少的部分我認為高鐵公司可以做得更細緻更細膩讓所有的爸媽不要有擔心的狀況或者是有壓力這個部分是高鐵公司必須要努力的部分那這個部分其實我看這兩天高鐵公司也做出一些精進的方案他們也希望說不要給爸爸媽媽有這個壓力我自己有三個小朋友\n1621340\t1638774\t不是不是你現在講的是我是說這已經涉及到實際就是說我們在鄰近車廂的使用上面跟大家現在目前就是說不同的族群會遇到的問題不一樣那是不是應該要設親子友善的車廂呢你認為\n1639934\t1661268\t親子友善的車廂這個要由高鐵公司他們去討論你沒有辦法去跟高鐵公司說你跟矢澤部長不好是不是我也可以跟他們討論你跟矢澤董事長不好是不是我想是這個樣子不一定要親子友善車廂而是每一個車廂應該對親子都要是友善的我覺得我們的國家應該是要這樣子裝潢才是正確的\n1662949\t1676205\t我還要請問你現在我看到交通部對於高齡化社會的交通補助都是在公共運輸但是\n1678147\t1691441\t除了六都以外甚至有一些六都我認為公共運輸都沒有就是非常的完善的情況下當然你們也補助了啊你們也補助了計程車資嘛但是\n1693403\t1717496\t陳部長 你知道嗎彰化跟台北是不一樣的計程車在彰化隨便一座都是700塊 800塊上千耶那你的車子補助這樣子怎麼足夠呢那我也看到了你們提出了需求反應式的公車就是給鄉鎮公所去處理 但是\n1718456\t1747514\t但是沒有相關的經費啊你要請司機啊是不是那你這個補貼是不是應該要做不同的對於就是比較城鄉差距沒有像都市型公共運輸這麼完整的你是不是應該要做不一樣的這樣子的方式的協助啊所有的鄉鎮市政府如果是比較偏鄉有這個需求申請幸福巴士或者幸福小黃我們都有相關的經費在補助\n1748014\t1775864\t對 我是說還有其他的還有其他的部分就是說你還有車你只補助了車嘛那有路線嘛那當然營運他需要的請司機相關的油料的這個部分有沒有這個我們是長期在做補助長期跟地方政府都有做合作這個部分我們持續在推動目前的普及率已經到達97%那我們希望能夠推到100%這個部分我們還在努力\n1776564\t1801545\t沒有 我覺得說對於我們公共運輸的這個相關的補助那對於高齡化的社會我認為我們交通部對於偏鄉以及對於六都以外的縣市應該要給予尤其是我們彰化縣應該要給予鄉鎮公所或者是像這樣子需求反應式的公車更多的相關的補助\n1802225\t1817616\t您關心這個議題交通部曾經在行政院的院會裡面正式報告過我們有做了相關的採視當天我還記得我非常的肯定交通部的做法或許這個相關資料沒有辦法到委員能夠了解我們對長者的注意偏鄉的幸福小黃幸福\n1818596\t1835750\t幸福巴士 我們都有相關的補助政策還有一點就是我們現在目前的車輛要不要設立智慧防撞系統日本好像已經推行了這個新車都有謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝副院長我想要請卓院長還有經管會的彭主委請卓院長還有經管會主委備詢\n我看到金管會要推台灣成為亞洲的資產中心管理中心那我想要請問一下目前進度是如何\n我想我們在這個計畫中我們在去年9月5號我們揭示大概五大計畫16項措施正在執行我想跟委員報告幾個比較重要的進度我們今年大概4月公佈的高雄市辦專區7月已經開張有33家金融機構進駐已經開始展開各項的業務\n我想再來就是我們第一階段的個人儲蓄投資帳戶TISA已經開辦現在大概有差不多4萬人開戶大概金額來到了大概50億左右還有就是我們最近馬上要公布的我們的壯大資本市場計畫就是亞洲納斯達克的計畫也會在21號對外做宣布還有就是我們還有相關的像比如我們放寬一些保險業的投資還有一些我們相關的法規的鬆綁已經超過36項\n那需不需要財政部相關的配合接住例如在稅賦方面呢在吸引外資來臺臺灣不是主要的投資就是國際的主要投資市場怎麼樣子吸引國際的資金到臺灣來在稅賦方面呢需不需要財政部給予相關的鬆綁需不需要\n我想從全世界各個金融中心發展的歷程當然有它很多的元素稅賦的優惠確實是一個在國際上非常重要的競爭的優勢雖然你現在有一個初步的進展但是如果沒有財政部的配合還有需不需要央行對於我們外匯管制的相關的放鬆呢\n是不需要跟委員報告其實我們有很多面向可以推動有一個像我們這次的發展是希望以流財跟引資並重我想比如流財的部分當然是留住本國資產我們現在有些措施在做但是假設要引資的部分那確實假設有些如果剛剛跟委員報告過如果說我們觀察其他國家的話如果我們在比如說在很多的\n匯率或是在比如說稅上有一些這個比較方便那當然是有注意但是我們也看到很多的這個中心他也不見得說一定要靠稅那但是我想很多的因素啦那請問一下部長我們莊部長\n對阿對於稅賦方面會給予相關的協助嗎還是不會我想這個雅致中心這個部分有關稅賦的部分目前現有的一些稅制已經可以提供相關的優惠那如果在執行過程當中如果需要稅賦來相關協助當然我們要考慮所以目前彭主委沒有要求是不是彭主委沒有跟你提出相關的要求跟協助那就我們\n就是要吸引外資來台很多他們希望對於台幣商品的相關的放鬆我想請問楊總裁你覺得呢你會給予相關的放鬆那當然我們都是配合這個金管會\n所以對於外匯管制你也會給予放鬆什麼樣的放鬆 外匯沒有管制 外匯是管理沒有管制好 管理 你會給予什麼樣的放鬆\n會 當然會放鬆我想要聽你說如果說在哪一方面因為據我了解就是說金管會它的一個推動是一步一步一步來的所以每一次它一步一步的時候我們都是配合它的所以到目前為止它如果說再往前來推動的話中央銀行亦不容辭來配合他們\n對於台幣的商品的放款當然台幣的商品更沒問題\n昨天彭主委在財委會有說要就是臺灣對於穩定幣有這樣子發行的空間當然有啊 還是有空間的我們知道現在目前美國的穩定幣還有綁定美元或者是相關的國庫券還有美債等\n那未來台灣的穩定幣的發行是不是要比照美國這樣子辦理穩定幣的監管大體上據我了解美國日本歐洲區還有台灣都大體上都是一樣的都是很類似所以就是會綁定是怎麼樣會綁定那是會一定會會綁定就是穩定幣要綁定台幣或者是我們的公債\n因為它發行穩定幣的時候它的資產面一定是要高品質的有流動性的一個資產國庫券這個是在裡面存款也是所以在資產面是高品質而且有流動性的一個資產\n好 那如果就是說未來要發行穩定幣是由政府機關還是由其他的金融機構來發行金融機構 一般來講是金融機構來發行是讓金融機構來發行 是\n還有彭主委我想要請問你為什麼亞洲資產管理中心要去高雄我認為彰化也是一個很好設立的地點為什麼不來彰化也設因為彰化\n彰化中彰投周邊共有500萬以上的這樣子的人口數我認為再加上我們有非常多的傳產是供外銷的所以非常多的外商買家會來到我們中部啊會來到彰化啊\n那是不是讓彰化也成為亞洲資產管理中心的事辦區啊是不是不然你現在其實重大的金融總部都在台北嘛那為什麼你移到高雄為什麼不移到彰化來\n我想這個是大概我也很高興聽到委員這麼說其實院長也指示過就是說任何一個縣市只要一道彰化來有這個意願能夠提供實質的行政或是其他方面的協助中央這邊今晚會這邊非常樂意的因為我們的政策是發展台灣為亞洲資產關係中心是台灣我們是當然希望擴散到全台灣去\n但是因為過去會選擇高雄當作第一站的示範點其實高雄在過去幾年來一直在這方面有一些已經有一些基礎在做了再來還有很多的他們願意提供很多具體的這樣一個行政措施我們就參考像日本的做法我們設立一個專區其實各個地方政府可以拿出他們自己的特色我們可以來做這件事情我們也願意非常願意來配合\n好那我還有一個國際就是金融方面的相關問題剛好兩位專家都在這裡我想就教一下就是現在目前法國跟英國的政府債務他們都佔GDP高達114%跟103%這樣子高目前有沒有可能就是說\n會像過去一樣有引發歐債這樣子相關的危機以及目前我們主要的金融機構對於法國對於英國目前的相關的商品曝險的部位有多大那當然是不是會造成相關的影響那我想要就教兩位\n我先跟委員回答一下當然比如說我們現在手上沒有具體的數據啦但是我們會後可以提供我認為你們應該去整理一下好不好警管會應該整理一下就是各金融機關對於相關曝險當然不一定會發生這樣的危機但是我們總是要知道說我們現在目前的部位是如何好不好\n我們一定有這個數據而且各個金融機構也有它一定的監控我們金管會這邊也有這個數字在做監控我們會後來提供給委員參考好啊 楊總裁你覺得會不會\n我覺得以目前來講 這是一個政治的紛擾當然政治的紛擾 可能也會波及到金融面不過以目前歐元區 還有英國本身的經濟還有金融來看的話 應該到目前為止還好\n到目前為止還好目前就是歐洲的這個部分是還好那彭主委我想要問的是現在美國的這個關稅就是20%疊加那對於我們上市櫃公司整體的獲利情況有什麼樣子的影響你們今晚會有沒有做相關的盤查其實這件事情發生以後我們透過交易所跟櫃買就對所有上市櫃公司做過幾次的調查\n我們也去根據不同的地區比如說特別是我們在比較高關稅的地區的影響他們也問卷回來大概比如說這個數字具體的數字我可能不是很記得不過大概是受到影響我記得上市櫃公司受到比較大的影響大概占18%左右還有就是說它其實這樣整體來看的話從一個整體上市櫃公司來講其實影響還是一個在一個有限的範圍之內\n我希望說對於我們虛擬資產的法律相關的制定麻煩兩位專家一定要審慎的評估那一定是要保障所有投資人以及穩定金融的安定\n這才是我們對於因為虛擬的資產現在已經是一個不可逆的世界的趨勢了但是怎麼樣子把風險控管我相信風險控管楊總裁你是專家是不是謝謝你那你應該要對相關的法令也要進行相關的審慎的評估給予建議好不好是\n沒問題謝謝你好謝謝那我想要請問的是謝謝兩位我想要請問我們院長就是說大陸宣布對於稀土產品的出口管制那\n對於我們半導體還有我們相關的產業業者很憂心喔會不會造成我們目前在產品的供應鏈上面有斷鏈的這樣子的危機呢有沒有\n好 報告委美中之間這種談判的變化相當的迅速多元那最近發生這個狀況我們還在評估到底含矽土的這種產品在台灣外銷或是在台灣出口的這個過程當中會遭到什麼樣的一個衝擊另外就是\n他們兩方兩個大國之間談判這個促銷會延續多久會不會有其他的變化我認為經濟部都已經在做這樣的一個一個對可是我想要了解的是說因為這一波的大陸的稀土禁止出口會不會影響到我們的半導體還有我們的\n電池以及馬達這會影響的層面有像電動車產業也好像我們的無人機的產業尤其是我們現在加大對於無人機的採購但是如果對於稀土的限制出口會不會對於我們這樣子一個無人機的採購會造成相關的影響\n幫我說明一下 謝謝你半導體的部分因為我們的製程上所需要的稀土這一次沒有在管制範圍裡面所以影響比較小\n另外一個您剛剛提到的有可能是磁鐵的部分永續磁因為它高速馬達會受到一些影響這個當然會影響到汽車或者是無人機因為它都要用到高速馬達但是也跟委員報告因為這個稀土基本上我們知道說當一公佈以後國際市場上的稀土價格就上漲但是基本上這個稀土在整個產品的比例\n非常非常小成本比例非常小所以即便它漲了百分之二十三十在整個產品裡面還是小的部分所以到底會影響到整個物價上漲多少我們可能還要再觀察一下所以如果我們沒有就是大陸它禁止出口的時候\n那有没有办法从其他因为我看到了经济部他所说的是说从我们既有回收的商品里面在存化提炼出稀土那我想要知道是我们这样子就是你你回收的商品到底有多少\n以及你提煉出來純化的稀土的數量到底多少報告委員現在因為中國採取這樣的做法也不是第一次之前在2010年已經有採取所以每一個國家事實上都在分散這樣的一個可能的風險包括有些國家也開始開採主要的原因導致說因為開採跟精煉的過程當中\n他需要用到強酸等等一些情況可能會對環境上有所破壞但是一旦如果遭受到這樣的管制的話免不了還是要持續剛剛委員提到的就是說有些企鵝用的再回縮再精煉日本事實上一直在做這樣的事情我們台灣也要做嗎\n但我們現在開始要輔導廠商在開始做這樣的事情因為過去來講我們進口的都是半成品材料或者是設備基本上這些歐美國家跟日本他們已經做成半成品了所以稀土的原始是他們在進口我們跟他買我剛才跟委員報告的就是說這個稀土占整個它材料的成本基本上是比較小一點所以還是要看它的供應鏈關係才能夠判斷\n那這個部分是你主責還是環境部回收純鏈這個部分如果說整個從這個產業發展的需求者是我們但是如果是回收的產業管器官是環境部\n環境部要協助報告委員 我們已經在過去這幾個月從美國有關稅戰爭開始關稅議題開始 我們就在做準備所以我們也現在正在盤點例如說我們有幾家做得不錯的我們希望他變成一個稀有貴金屬的一個國家隊那我們會跟經濟部密切來合作現在在整隊當中因為我覺得環境部好像\n最近從很多次的一個就是從颱風也好風災也好剛好院長在這裡我也要講啊就是說在這一次的風災當中我說的這非常小的事情一個田中的稻埂它過去就是說讓它自然腐化的就是環境部它規劃的是讓它自然在環境中腐化但是在這一次的風災當中很多的稻田沒有辦法承受自然腐化啊\n它如果放在稻田旁邊的時候當風災水來了它就會堵塞所有的排水口甚至影響我們的發電設施水利設施等等的這個情況環境部都沒有預先去盤查你沒有預先盤查本來可以\n對於業者來講 如果稻穀的回收沒有辦法作為很好的SRF等等的材料的時候那我們未來要怎麼樣做\n這個東西我也救教你很多次了報告委員那個倒梗是一件事情因為當地有人說希望可以焚燒但是我們認為這個會污染到空氣那你不要焚燒你要提出第二個做法嗎不要讓他對於我們風災以後的二次的傷害\n是不是 我們競速才能夠整理好就是說風災結束後競速才能整理好環境不會影響到我們民眾的日常生活不是嗎是 這個部分因為稻梗它可以用一些加速腐化的方式來進行我們現在在研究這樣的一個方案還在腐化 你還在加速腐化因為這個其實速度要一個禮拜所以這個我們在想更快的一個方法\n對啊你如果風災又來像上一次七八月的連日的豪雨你還在腐化還來得及嗎來不及你再塞再塞然後塞了所有的排水設施所有的集水設施所有的發電設施這會對於我們民眾民生產生非常重大的影響這非常小的事情這不需要修法而是應該在行政措施上面有作為是不是\n是 這個我們會跟農業部一起來努力那巴奧委員您提到的稀有貴金屬的確我們是在很努力在盤點因為這個是我們國家未來最重要的一個資產我們希望做到內循環 努力來做那美國現在準備花10億美元做緊急的戰備的採購那我們有沒有這樣子相關的打算呢我們是現在進行的是提煉這個精煉的技術是不是\n目前我們現在在盤點因為我們很多的業者其實都很隱藏在社會當中他沒有讓別人知道但是其實他跟我們的互動非常的密切例如說屋啊 菇啊等等的 鎳啊 桶啊他們都很積極在做做內循環的工作不過他們目前有很多直接出口到日本去我們希望他留在台灣我們自己用\n所以要限制相關商品的出口嗎限制相關重金屬回收精煉的產品的出口嗎我們希望他的技術提升然後可以在臺灣我們可以自己拿來用變成我們的戰備的物資\n院長是這樣子嗎我們當然希望這些物資如果能夠在分析的成本上面我們協助他能夠來降低他留在國內讓我們可以做充分的使用對我們百工百業甚至我們的國防工業都有實質上的需求跟協助謝謝兩位我想要再請我們農業部長農業部請備詢\n我想請教一下就是在美國他希望說我們可以排除在關稅談判上面可以排除就是貿易方面的障礙就是非貿易方面的障礙我想請問我們過去就是說他會不會要求就是稻米的進口是不是要取消這個關稅會不會\n我想因為現在台北談判還在進行中那相關的談判我之前也說了就是不管是美國或台灣我們有各自的一個期待但是農業部一定是以在確保糧食安全然後讓我們的整個農業產業環境能夠永續發展還有一個就是\n能夠維護我們農民權益的這三個前提之下我們跟美國一直在持續的談判我昨天也有就照於部長關於蝴蝶蘭的事情 是不是如果蝴蝶蘭要赴美去做大苗小苗的生產我們會使用台唐的土地給予協助\n那對於我們稻米出口呢你已經有到日本去做相關的設點考察那對於台灣的稻米出口你說過去你說即便是加上關稅\n我們都有相關的價值跟日本米比起來我們還是有競爭力就這個部分你有什麼樣的進展\n我想跟委員報告就是我們稻米的自給率大概是108所以我們有足夠的能量是可以外銷的特別是我們的產品優質那我以日本日本的市場為例因為日本的市場進去同樣要有關稅配額還有關稅的這些問題但是以今年來講我們大概\n銷到日本已經將近8000噸左右同樣的我們走的是高端市場的時候就會把這些關稅的這些差異性能夠做部分的抵銷我們不會走到平價的市場我們走高端市場日本我們現在透過幾個重要的通路也的確達成了但是我想要知道的是到底有多少過去我們輸日的可能都是變成次級品\n或者是就是輸到我們的稻米出口都是變成赤餅皮可能變成飼料的用米那我們現在要走高值化你要給出成績啊你沒有成績大家怎麼敢跟你一起去啊是不是\n我謝謝委員的這樣的一個詢問我要跟委員說明我們輸到日本的部分絕對不會用次級米去輸出的部分反而是我們現在應該去加強我們的所有的不管是公糧倉庫民糧倉庫本身的這些相關的儲存稻米儲存的環境的改善那環境改善了以後相對的我們在一起做當期的這些稻米能夠及時輸出的話那就不會變到所謂的飼料米這樣子\n對 但你要我是說我們當然希望是這樣子的情況啊但是你要給出成績單啊是不是你要有相關的成績不是說去設一個代表處而已啊我們絕對不會我想到各地去做行銷站\n用一個常駐點並不是我們所期待的我們希望說能夠有通路的鏈結特別是我們台灣有很在日本或是在新加坡有很多不同的米的品牌特別是像那個富里的這些有機米他就在日本皇后的有機米這個在日本就非常有名\n所以我們希望說用品牌的方式結合我們的優質的方式去做行銷我們彰化的覆米也很有名耶你知道彰化也有彰化也有對啊 你都沒有帶我們彰化去然後也沒給出生雞蛋絕對有啦會啦 我們一起來努力我想我們跟一些稻米的輸出還有一些民糧不管是民糧的這些糧商我們都會一起來努力好 謝謝陳部長我還要請交通部的部長\n好 請交通部陳部長\n陳部長 我要就教於你我想要請問高鐵的臨近車廂現在已經發生了相關的婦女帶了小朋友上車以後當然了現在能生好幾個的很少有一個吵 另外一個坐在車廂這要怎麼處理這有沒有違反了我們相關的兒少法的相關的原則\n報告委員您所說的這個案例石部長說有欸是不是不是高鐵公司有出來澄清很像沒有這件事情沒有這件事情您說的這個案例啦一個媽媽把孩子留一個在車廂那另外一位帶到外面去的這個事情高鐵公司有出來澄清沒有這件事這第一點所以是新聞不實的報導\n呃 我不曉得是不是新聞不實的報導但高鐵公司有出來澄清這件事但是委員您在說的這個臨近車廂還是他不瞭解實際的情況因為他每天的車次怎麼多他們有調查過是不是他不瞭解實際的情況好 那就算如此未來發生同樣的情況的時候怎麼樣讓臨近車廂與兒少保護能夠\n報告委員這個部分其實全民都很關心您進車廂的部分其實相當多的民眾是支持哪個部分呢是支持說例如說講手機就盡量小聲或者到玄關去講或者是您在看影片用3C的產品在看影片的時候必須要戴耳機不要去吵到旁邊的人\n這個部分其實我相信社會是有大部分的共識但是對於兒少的部分我認為高鐵公司可以做得更細緻更細膩讓所有的爸媽不要有擔心的狀況或者是有壓力這個部分是高鐵公司必須要努力的部分那這個部分其實我看這兩天高鐵公司也做出一些精進的方案他們也希望說不要給爸爸媽媽有這個壓力我自己有三個小朋友\n不是不是你現在講的是我是說這已經涉及到實際就是說我們在鄰近車廂的使用上面跟大家現在目前就是說不同的族群會遇到的問題不一樣那是不是應該要設親子友善的車廂呢你認為\n親子友善的車廂這個要由高鐵公司他們去討論你沒有辦法去跟高鐵公司說你跟矢澤部長不好是不是我也可以跟他們討論你跟矢澤董事長不好是不是我想是這個樣子不一定要親子友善車廂而是每一個車廂應該對親子都要是友善的我覺得我們的國家應該是要這樣子裝潢才是正確的\n我還要請問你現在我看到交通部對於高齡化社會的交通補助都是在公共運輸但是\n除了六都以外甚至有一些六都我認為公共運輸都沒有就是非常的完善的情況下當然你們也補助了啊你們也補助了計程車資嘛但是\n陳部長 你知道嗎彰化跟台北是不一樣的計程車在彰化隨便一座都是700塊 800塊上千耶那你的車子補助這樣子怎麼足夠呢那我也看到了你們提出了需求反應式的公車就是給鄉鎮公所去處理 但是\n但是沒有相關的經費啊你要請司機啊是不是那你這個補貼是不是應該要做不同的對於就是比較城鄉差距沒有像都市型公共運輸這麼完整的你是不是應該要做不一樣的這樣子的方式的協助啊所有的鄉鎮市政府如果是比較偏鄉有這個需求申請幸福巴士或者幸福小黃我們都有相關的經費在補助\n對 我是說還有其他的還有其他的部分就是說你還有車你只補助了車嘛那有路線嘛那當然營運他需要的請司機相關的油料的這個部分有沒有這個我們是長期在做補助長期跟地方政府都有做合作這個部分我們持續在推動目前的普及率已經到達97%那我們希望能夠推到100%這個部分我們還在努力\n沒有 我覺得說對於我們公共運輸的這個相關的補助那對於高齡化的社會我認為我們交通部對於偏鄉以及對於六都以外的縣市應該要給予尤其是我們彰化縣應該要給予鄉鎮公所或者是像這樣子需求反應式的公車更多的相關的補助\n您關心這個議題交通部曾經在行政院的院會裡面正式報告過我們有做了相關的採視當天我還記得我非常的肯定交通部的做法或許這個相關資料沒有辦法到委員能夠了解我們對長者的注意偏鄉的幸福小黃幸福\n幸福巴士 我們都有相關的補助政策還有一點就是我們現在目前的車輛要不要設立智慧防撞系統日本好像已經推行了這個新車都有謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:14.657 --> 00:21.320\n謝謝副院長我想要請卓院長還有經管會的彭主委請卓院長還有經管會主委備詢\n\n00:33.010 --> 00:41.238\n我看到金管會要推台灣成為亞洲的資產中心管理中心那我想要請問一下目前進度是如何\n\n00:42.361 --> 01:02.091\n我想我們在這個計畫中我們在去年9月5號我們揭示大概五大計畫16項措施正在執行我想跟委員報告幾個比較重要的進度我們今年大概4月公佈的高雄市辦專區7月已經開張有33家金融機構進駐已經開始展開各項的業務\n\n01:03.251 --> 01:30.876\n我想再來就是我們第一階段的個人儲蓄投資帳戶TISA已經開辦現在大概有差不多4萬人開戶大概金額來到了大概50億左右還有就是我們最近馬上要公布的我們的壯大資本市場計畫就是亞洲納斯達克的計畫也會在21號對外做宣布還有就是我們還有相關的像比如我們放寬一些保險業的投資還有一些我們相關的法規的鬆綁已經超過36項\n\n01:33.436 --> 01:58.369\n那需不需要財政部相關的配合接住例如在稅賦方面呢在吸引外資來臺臺灣不是主要的投資就是國際的主要投資市場怎麼樣子吸引國際的資金到臺灣來在稅賦方面呢需不需要財政部給予相關的鬆綁需不需要\n\n01:58.689 --> 02:27.792\n我想從全世界各個金融中心發展的歷程當然有它很多的元素稅賦的優惠確實是一個在國際上非常重要的競爭的優勢雖然你現在有一個初步的進展但是如果沒有財政部的配合還有需不需要央行對於我們外匯管制的相關的放鬆呢\n\n02:28.092 --> 02:50.855\n是不需要跟委員報告其實我們有很多面向可以推動有一個像我們這次的發展是希望以流財跟引資並重我想比如流財的部分當然是留住本國資產我們現在有些措施在做但是假設要引資的部分那確實假設有些如果剛剛跟委員報告過如果說我們觀察其他國家的話如果我們在比如說在很多的\n\n02:51.736 --> 03:07.682\n匯率或是在比如說稅上有一些這個比較方便那當然是有注意但是我們也看到很多的這個中心他也不見得說一定要靠稅那但是我想很多的因素啦那請問一下部長我們莊部長\n\n03:10.038 --> 03:34.994\n對阿對於稅賦方面會給予相關的協助嗎還是不會我想這個雅致中心這個部分有關稅賦的部分目前現有的一些稅制已經可以提供相關的優惠那如果在執行過程當中如果需要稅賦來相關協助當然我們要考慮所以目前彭主委沒有要求是不是彭主委沒有跟你提出相關的要求跟協助那就我們\n\n03:36.034 --> 03:54.565\n就是要吸引外資來台很多他們希望對於台幣商品的相關的放鬆我想請問楊總裁你覺得呢你會給予相關的放鬆那當然我們都是配合這個金管會\n\n03:55.782 --> 04:06.331\n所以對於外匯管制你也會給予放鬆什麼樣的放鬆外匯沒有管制外匯是管理沒有管制好管理你會給予什麼樣的放鬆\n\n04:09.252 --> 04:36.503\n會當然會放鬆我想要聽你說如果說在哪一方面因為據我了解就是說金管會它的一個推動是一步一步一步來的所以每一次它一步一步的時候我們都是配合它的所以到目前為止它如果說再往前來推動的話中央銀行亦不容辭來配合他們\n\n04:37.113 --> 04:43.642\n對於台幣的商品的放款當然台幣的商品更沒問題\n\n04:45.947 --> 05:10.074\n昨天彭主委在財委會有說要就是臺灣對於穩定幣有這樣子發行的空間當然有啊還是有空間的我們知道現在目前美國的穩定幣還有綁定美元或者是相關的國庫券還有美債等\n\n05:10.734 --> 05:39.403\n那未來台灣的穩定幣的發行是不是要比照美國這樣子辦理穩定幣的監管大體上據我了解美國日本歐洲區還有台灣都大體上都是一樣的都是很類似所以就是會綁定是怎麼樣會綁定那是會一定會會綁定就是穩定幣要綁定台幣或者是我們的公債\n\n05:40.824 --> 06:01.418\n因為它發行穩定幣的時候它的資產面一定是要高品質的有流動性的一個資產國庫券這個是在裡面存款也是所以在資產面是高品質而且有流動性的一個資產\n\n06:02.219 --> 06:16.910\n好那如果就是說未來要發行穩定幣是由政府機關還是由其他的金融機構來發行金融機構一般來講是金融機構來發行是讓金融機構來發行是\n\n06:19.211 --> 06:34.345\n還有彭主委我想要請問你為什麼亞洲資產管理中心要去高雄我認為彰化也是一個很好設立的地點為什麼不來彰化也設因為彰化\n\n06:35.987 --> 06:54.405\n彰化中彰投周邊共有500萬以上的這樣子的人口數我認為再加上我們有非常多的傳產是供外銷的所以非常多的外商買家會來到我們中部啊會來到彰化啊\n\n06:55.026 --> 07:10.582\n那是不是讓彰化也成為亞洲資產管理中心的事辦區啊是不是不然你現在其實重大的金融總部都在台北嘛那為什麼你移到高雄為什麼不移到彰化來\n\n07:11.904 --> 07:35.605\n我想這個是大概我也很高興聽到委員這麼說其實院長也指示過就是說任何一個縣市只要一道彰化來有這個意願能夠提供實質的行政或是其他方面的協助中央這邊今晚會這邊非常樂意的因為我們的政策是發展台灣為亞洲資產關係中心是台灣我們是當然希望擴散到全台灣去\n\n07:36.125 --> 08:00.531\n但是因為過去會選擇高雄當作第一站的示範點其實高雄在過去幾年來一直在這方面有一些已經有一些基礎在做了再來還有很多的他們願意提供很多具體的這樣一個行政措施我們就參考像日本的做法我們設立一個專區其實各個地方政府可以拿出他們自己的特色我們可以來做這件事情我們也願意非常願意來配合\n\n08:00.899 --> 08:27.733\n好那我還有一個國際就是金融方面的相關問題剛好兩位專家都在這裡我想就教一下就是現在目前法國跟英國的政府債務他們都佔GDP高達114%跟103%這樣子高目前有沒有可能就是說\n\n08:29.414 --> 08:53.693\n會像過去一樣有引發歐債這樣子相關的危機以及目前我們主要的金融機構對於法國對於英國目前的相關的商品曝險的部位有多大那當然是不是會造成相關的影響那我想要就教兩位\n\n08:57.144 --> 09:20.965\n我先跟委員回答一下當然比如說我們現在手上沒有具體的數據啦但是我們會後可以提供我認為你們應該去整理一下好不好警管會應該整理一下就是各金融機關對於相關曝險當然不一定會發生這樣的危機但是我們總是要知道說我們現在目前的部位是如何好不好\n\n09:21.986 --> 09:33.039\n我們一定有這個數據而且各個金融機構也有它一定的監控我們金管會這邊也有這個數字在做監控我們會後來提供給委員參考好啊楊總裁你覺得會不會\n\n09:34.080 --> 09:55.554\n我覺得以目前來講這是一個政治的紛擾當然政治的紛擾可能也會波及到金融面不過以目前歐元區還有英國本身的經濟還有金融來看的話應該到目前為止還好\n\n09:56.796 --> 10:24.010\n到目前為止還好目前就是歐洲的這個部分是還好那彭主委我想要問的是現在美國的這個關稅就是20%疊加那對於我們上市櫃公司整體的獲利情況有什麼樣子的影響你們今晚會有沒有做相關的盤查其實這件事情發生以後我們透過交易所跟櫃買就對所有上市櫃公司做過幾次的調查\n\n10:25.091 --> 10:51.637\n我們也去根據不同的地區比如說特別是我們在比較高關稅的地區的影響他們也問卷回來大概比如說這個數字具體的數字我可能不是很記得不過大概是受到影響我記得上市櫃公司受到比較大的影響大概占18%左右還有就是說它其實這樣整體來看的話從一個整體上市櫃公司來講其實影響還是一個在一個有限的範圍之內\n\n10:53.572 --> 11:11.937\n我希望說對於我們虛擬資產的法律相關的制定麻煩兩位專家一定要審慎的評估那一定是要保障所有投資人以及穩定金融的安定\n\n11:12.937 --> 11:39.580\n這才是我們對於因為虛擬的資產現在已經是一個不可逆的世界的趨勢了但是怎麼樣子把風險控管我相信風險控管楊總裁你是專家是不是謝謝你那你應該要對相關的法令也要進行相關的審慎的評估給予建議好不好是\n\n11:40.209 --> 11:57.392\n沒問題謝謝你好謝謝那我想要請問的是謝謝兩位我想要請問我們院長就是說大陸宣布對於稀土產品的出口管制那\n\n11:58.154 --> 12:18.545\n對於我們半導體還有我們相關的產業業者很憂心喔會不會造成我們目前在產品的供應鏈上面有斷鏈的這樣子的危機呢有沒有\n\n12:19.246 --> 12:38.161\n好報告委美中之間這種談判的變化相當的迅速多元那最近發生這個狀況我們還在評估到底含矽土的這種產品在台灣外銷或是在台灣出口的這個過程當中會遭到什麼樣的一個衝擊另外就是\n\n12:38.982 --> 12:57.728\n他們兩方兩個大國之間談判這個促銷會延續多久會不會有其他的變化我認為經濟部都已經在做這樣的一個一個對可是我想要了解的是說因為這一波的大陸的稀土禁止出口會不會影響到我們的半導體還有我們的\n\n13:00.949 --> 13:26.863\n電池以及馬達這會影響的層面有像電動車產業也好像我們的無人機的產業尤其是我們現在加大對於無人機的採購但是如果對於稀土的限制出口會不會對於我們這樣子一個無人機的採購會造成相關的影響\n\n13:27.863 --> 13:37.452\n幫我說明一下謝謝你半導體的部分因為我們的製程上所需要的稀土這一次沒有在管制範圍裡面所以影響比較小\n\n13:38.823 --> 14:04.516\n另外一個您剛剛提到的有可能是磁鐵的部分永續磁因為它高速馬達會受到一些影響這個當然會影響到汽車或者是無人機因為它都要用到高速馬達但是也跟委員報告因為這個稀土基本上我們知道說當一公佈以後國際市場上的稀土價格就上漲但是基本上這個稀土在整個產品的比例\n\n14:05.496 --> 14:24.025\n非常非常小成本比例非常小所以即便它漲了百分之二十三十在整個產品裡面還是小的部分所以到底會影響到整個物價上漲多少我們可能還要再觀察一下所以如果我們沒有就是大陸它禁止出口的時候\n\n14:24.485 --> 14:43.837\n那有没有办法从其他因为我看到了经济部他所说的是说从我们既有回收的商品里面在存化提炼出稀土那我想要知道是我们这样子就是你你回收的商品到底有多少\n\n14:44.457 --> 15:11.043\n以及你提煉出來純化的稀土的數量到底多少報告委員現在因為中國採取這樣的做法也不是第一次之前在2010年已經有採取所以每一個國家事實上都在分散這樣的一個可能的風險包括有些國家也開始開採主要的原因導致說因為開採跟精煉的過程當中\n\n15:11.943 --> 15:31.876\n他需要用到強酸等等一些情況可能會對環境上有所破壞但是一旦如果遭受到這樣的管制的話免不了還是要持續剛剛委員提到的就是說有些企鵝用的再回縮再精煉日本事實上一直在做這樣的事情我們台灣也要做嗎\n\n15:32.737 --> 16:02.097\n但我們現在開始要輔導廠商在開始做這樣的事情因為過去來講我們進口的都是半成品材料或者是設備基本上這些歐美國家跟日本他們已經做成半成品了所以稀土的原始是他們在進口我們跟他買我剛才跟委員報告的就是說這個稀土占整個它材料的成本基本上是比較小一點所以還是要看它的供應鏈關係才能夠判斷\n\n16:04.259 --> 16:19.734\n那這個部分是你主責還是環境部回收純鏈這個部分如果說整個從這個產業發展的需求者是我們但是如果是回收的產業管器官是環境部\n\n16:20.514 --> 16:41.959\n環境部要協助報告委員我們已經在過去這幾個月從美國有關稅戰爭開始關稅議題開始我們就在做準備所以我們也現在正在盤點例如說我們有幾家做得不錯的我們希望他變成一個稀有貴金屬的一個國家隊那我們會跟經濟部密切來合作現在在整隊當中因為我覺得環境部好像\n\n16:42.399 --> 17:10.392\n最近從很多次的一個就是從颱風也好風災也好剛好院長在這裡我也要講啊就是說在這一次的風災當中我說的這非常小的事情一個田中的稻埂它過去就是說讓它自然腐化的就是環境部它規劃的是讓它自然在環境中腐化但是在這一次的風災當中很多的稻田沒有辦法承受自然腐化啊\n\n17:10.832 --> 17:29.751\n它如果放在稻田旁邊的時候當風災水來了它就會堵塞所有的排水口甚至影響我們的發電設施水利設施等等的這個情況環境部都沒有預先去盤查你沒有預先盤查本來可以\n\n17:31.175 --> 17:43.772\n對於業者來講如果稻穀的回收沒有辦法作為很好的SRF等等的材料的時候那我們未來要怎麼樣做\n\n17:46.466 --> 18:03.595\n這個東西我也救教你很多次了報告委員那個倒梗是一件事情因為當地有人說希望可以焚燒但是我們認為這個會污染到空氣那你不要焚燒你要提出第二個做法嗎不要讓他對於我們風災以後的二次的傷害\n\n18:04.195 --> 18:31.549\n是不是我們競速才能夠整理好就是說風災結束後競速才能整理好環境不會影響到我們民眾的日常生活不是嗎是這個部分因為稻梗它可以用一些加速腐化的方式來進行我們現在在研究這樣的一個方案還在腐化你還在加速腐化因為這個其實速度要一個禮拜所以這個我們在想更快的一個方法\n\n18:32.049 --> 18:59.757\n對啊你如果風災又來像上一次七八月的連日的豪雨你還在腐化還來得及嗎來不及你再塞再塞然後塞了所有的排水設施所有的集水設施所有的發電設施這會對於我們民眾民生產生非常重大的影響這非常小的事情這不需要修法而是應該在行政措施上面有作為是不是\n\n19:00.357 --> 19:27.606\n是這個我們會跟農業部一起來努力那巴奧委員您提到的稀有貴金屬的確我們是在很努力在盤點因為這個是我們國家未來最重要的一個資產我們希望做到內循環努力來做那美國現在準備花10億美元做緊急的戰備的採購那我們有沒有這樣子相關的打算呢我們是現在進行的是提煉這個精煉的技術是不是\n\n19:28.582 --> 19:50.122\n目前我們現在在盤點因為我們很多的業者其實都很隱藏在社會當中他沒有讓別人知道但是其實他跟我們的互動非常的密切例如說屋啊菇啊等等的鎳啊桶啊他們都很積極在做做內循環的工作不過他們目前有很多直接出口到日本去我們希望他留在台灣我們自己用\n\n19:50.302 --> 20:05.009\n所以要限制相關商品的出口嗎限制相關重金屬回收精煉的產品的出口嗎我們希望他的技術提升然後可以在臺灣我們可以自己拿來用變成我們的戰備的物資\n\n20:06.782 --> 20:30.120\n院長是這樣子嗎我們當然希望這些物資如果能夠在分析的成本上面我們協助他能夠來降低他留在國內讓我們可以做充分的使用對我們百工百業甚至我們的國防工業都有實質上的需求跟協助謝謝兩位我想要再請我們農業部長農業部請備詢\n\n20:44.242 --> 21:04.819\n我想請教一下就是在美國他希望說我們可以排除在關稅談判上面可以排除就是貿易方面的障礙就是非貿易方面的障礙我想請問我們過去就是說他會不會要求就是稻米的進口是不是要取消這個關稅會不會\n\n21:07.237 --> 21:25.868\n我想因為現在台北談判還在進行中那相關的談判我之前也說了就是不管是美國或台灣我們有各自的一個期待但是農業部一定是以在確保糧食安全然後讓我們的整個農業產業環境能夠永續發展還有一個就是\n\n21:26.408 --> 21:44.775\n能夠維護我們農民權益的這三個前提之下我們跟美國一直在持續的談判我昨天也有就照於部長關於蝴蝶蘭的事情是不是如果蝴蝶蘭要赴美去做大苗小苗的生產我們會使用台唐的土地給予協助\n\n21:45.855 --> 21:59.957\n那對於我們稻米出口呢你已經有到日本去做相關的設點考察那對於台灣的稻米出口你說過去你說即便是加上關稅\n\n22:01.889 --> 22:08.375\n我們都有相關的價值跟日本米比起來我們還是有競爭力就這個部分你有什麼樣的進展\n\n22:17.642 --> 22:35.536\n我想跟委員報告就是我們稻米的自給率大概是108所以我們有足夠的能量是可以外銷的特別是我們的產品優質那我以日本日本的市場為例因為日本的市場進去同樣要有關稅配額還有關稅的這些問題但是以今年來講我們大概\n\n22:36.517 --> 23:01.342\n銷到日本已經將近8000噸左右同樣的我們走的是高端市場的時候就會把這些關稅的這些差異性能夠做部分的抵銷我們不會走到平價的市場我們走高端市場日本我們現在透過幾個重要的通路也的確達成了但是我想要知道的是到底有多少過去我們輸日的可能都是變成次級品\n\n23:02.162 --> 23:17.055\n或者是就是輸到我們的稻米出口都是變成赤餅皮可能變成飼料的用米那我們現在要走高值化你要給出成績啊你沒有成績大家怎麼敢跟你一起去啊是不是\n\n23:18.075 --> 23:47.115\n我謝謝委員的這樣的一個詢問我要跟委員說明我們輸到日本的部分絕對不會用次級米去輸出的部分反而是我們現在應該去加強我們的所有的不管是公糧倉庫民糧倉庫本身的這些相關的儲存稻米儲存的環境的改善那環境改善了以後相對的我們在一起做當期的這些稻米能夠及時輸出的話那就不會變到所謂的飼料米這樣子\n\n23:48.456 --> 24:03.194\n對但你要我是說我們當然希望是這樣子的情況啊但是你要給出成績單啊是不是你要有相關的成績不是說去設一個代表處而已啊我們絕對不會我想到各地去做行銷站\n\n24:04.475 --> 24:23.337\n用一個常駐點並不是我們所期待的我們希望說能夠有通路的鏈結特別是我們台灣有很在日本或是在新加坡有很多不同的米的品牌特別是像那個富里的這些有機米他就在日本皇后的有機米這個在日本就非常有名\n\n24:23.797 --> 24:51.135\n所以我們希望說用品牌的方式結合我們的優質的方式去做行銷我們彰化的覆米也很有名耶你知道彰化也有彰化也有對啊你都沒有帶我們彰化去然後也沒給出生雞蛋絕對有啦會啦我們一起來努力我想我們跟一些稻米的輸出還有一些民糧不管是民糧的這些糧商我們都會一起來努力好謝謝陳部長我還要請交通部的部長\n\n24:53.397 --> 24:54.382\n好請交通部陳部長\n\n25:03.041 --> 25:29.278\n陳部長我要就教於你我想要請問高鐵的臨近車廂現在已經發生了相關的婦女帶了小朋友上車以後當然了現在能生好幾個的很少有一個吵另外一個坐在車廂這要怎麼處理這有沒有違反了我們相關的兒少法的相關的原則\n\n25:32.794 --> 25:53.154\n報告委員您所說的這個案例石部長說有欸是不是不是高鐵公司有出來澄清很像沒有這件事情沒有這件事情您說的這個案例啦一個媽媽把孩子留一個在車廂那另外一位帶到外面去的這個事情高鐵公司有出來澄清沒有這件事這第一點所以是新聞不實的報導\n\n25:55.502 --> 26:15.068\n呃我不曉得是不是新聞不實的報導但高鐵公司有出來澄清這件事但是委員您在說的這個臨近車廂還是他不瞭解實際的情況因為他每天的車次怎麼多他們有調查過是不是他不瞭解實際的情況好那就算如此未來發生同樣的情況的時候怎麼樣讓臨近車廂與兒少保護能夠\n\n26:19.509 --> 26:36.629\n報告委員這個部分其實全民都很關心您進車廂的部分其實相當多的民眾是支持哪個部分呢是支持說例如說講手機就盡量小聲或者到玄關去講或者是您在看影片用3C的產品在看影片的時候必須要戴耳機不要去吵到旁邊的人\n\n26:37.289 --> 27:00.800\n這個部分其實我相信社會是有大部分的共識但是對於兒少的部分我認為高鐵公司可以做得更細緻更細膩讓所有的爸媽不要有擔心的狀況或者是有壓力這個部分是高鐵公司必須要努力的部分那這個部分其實我看這兩天高鐵公司也做出一些精進的方案他們也希望說不要給爸爸媽媽有這個壓力我自己有三個小朋友\n\n27:01.340 --> 27:18.774\n不是不是你現在講的是我是說這已經涉及到實際就是說我們在鄰近車廂的使用上面跟大家現在目前就是說不同的族群會遇到的問題不一樣那是不是應該要設親子友善的車廂呢你認為\n\n27:19.934 --> 27:41.268\n親子友善的車廂這個要由高鐵公司他們去討論你沒有辦法去跟高鐵公司說你跟矢澤部長不好是不是我也可以跟他們討論你跟矢澤董事長不好是不是我想是這個樣子不一定要親子友善車廂而是每一個車廂應該對親子都要是友善的我覺得我們的國家應該是要這樣子裝潢才是正確的\n\n27:42.949 --> 27:56.205\n我還要請問你現在我看到交通部對於高齡化社會的交通補助都是在公共運輸但是\n\n27:58.147 --> 28:11.441\n除了六都以外甚至有一些六都我認為公共運輸都沒有就是非常的完善的情況下當然你們也補助了啊你們也補助了計程車資嘛但是\n\n28:13.403 --> 28:37.496\n陳部長你知道嗎彰化跟台北是不一樣的計程車在彰化隨便一座都是700塊800塊上千耶那你的車子補助這樣子怎麼足夠呢那我也看到了你們提出了需求反應式的公車就是給鄉鎮公所去處理但是\n\n28:38.456 --> 29:07.514\n但是沒有相關的經費啊你要請司機啊是不是那你這個補貼是不是應該要做不同的對於就是比較城鄉差距沒有像都市型公共運輸這麼完整的你是不是應該要做不一樣的這樣子的方式的協助啊所有的鄉鎮市政府如果是比較偏鄉有這個需求申請幸福巴士或者幸福小黃我們都有相關的經費在補助\n\n29:08.014 --> 29:35.864\n對我是說還有其他的還有其他的部分就是說你還有車你只補助了車嘛那有路線嘛那當然營運他需要的請司機相關的油料的這個部分有沒有這個我們是長期在做補助長期跟地方政府都有做合作這個部分我們持續在推動目前的普及率已經到達97%那我們希望能夠推到100%這個部分我們還在努力\n\n29:36.564 --> 30:01.545\n沒有我覺得說對於我們公共運輸的這個相關的補助那對於高齡化的社會我認為我們交通部對於偏鄉以及對於六都以外的縣市應該要給予尤其是我們彰化縣應該要給予鄉鎮公所或者是像這樣子需求反應式的公車更多的相關的補助\n\n30:02.225 --> 30:17.616\n您關心這個議題交通部曾經在行政院的院會裡面正式報告過我們有做了相關的採視當天我還記得我非常的肯定交通部的做法或許這個相關資料沒有辦法到委員能夠了解我們對長者的注意偏鄉的幸福小黃幸福\n\n30:18.596 --> 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但你要我是說我們當然希望是這樣子的情況啊但是你要給出成績單啊是不是你要有相關的成績不是說去設一個代表處而已啊我們絕對不會我想到各地去做行銷站"},{"start":1444.475,"end":1463.337,"text":"用一個常駐點並不是我們所期待的我們希望說能夠有通路的鏈結特別是我們台灣有很在日本或是在新加坡有很多不同的米的品牌特別是像那個富里的這些有機米他就在日本皇后的有機米這個在日本就非常有名"},{"start":1463.797,"end":1491.135,"text":"所以我們希望說用品牌的方式結合我們的優質的方式去做行銷我們彰化的覆米也很有名耶你知道彰化也有彰化也有對啊 你都沒有帶我們彰化去然後也沒給出生雞蛋絕對有啦會啦 我們一起來努力我想我們跟一些稻米的輸出還有一些民糧不管是民糧的這些糧商我們都會一起來努力好 謝謝陳部長我還要請交通部的部長"},{"start":1493.397,"end":1494.382,"text":"好 請交通部陳部長"},{"start":1503.041,"end":1529.278,"text":"陳部長 我要就教於你我想要請問高鐵的臨近車廂現在已經發生了相關的婦女帶了小朋友上車以後當然了現在能生好幾個的很少有一個吵 另外一個坐在車廂這要怎麼處理這有沒有違反了我們相關的兒少法的相關的原則"},{"start":1532.794,"end":1553.154,"text":"報告委員您所說的這個案例石部長說有欸是不是不是高鐵公司有出來澄清很像沒有這件事情沒有這件事情您說的這個案例啦一個媽媽把孩子留一個在車廂那另外一位帶到外面去的這個事情高鐵公司有出來澄清沒有這件事這第一點所以是新聞不實的報導"},{"start":1555.502,"end":1575.068,"text":"呃 我不曉得是不是新聞不實的報導但高鐵公司有出來澄清這件事但是委員您在說的這個臨近車廂還是他不瞭解實際的情況因為他每天的車次怎麼多他們有調查過是不是他不瞭解實際的情況好 那就算如此未來發生同樣的情況的時候怎麼樣讓臨近車廂與兒少保護能夠"},{"start":1579.509,"end":1596.629,"text":"報告委員這個部分其實全民都很關心您進車廂的部分其實相當多的民眾是支持哪個部分呢是支持說例如說講手機就盡量小聲或者到玄關去講或者是您在看影片用3C的產品在看影片的時候必須要戴耳機不要去吵到旁邊的人"},{"start":1597.289,"end":1620.8,"text":"這個部分其實我相信社會是有大部分的共識但是對於兒少的部分我認為高鐵公司可以做得更細緻更細膩讓所有的爸媽不要有擔心的狀況或者是有壓力這個部分是高鐵公司必須要努力的部分那這個部分其實我看這兩天高鐵公司也做出一些精進的方案他們也希望說不要給爸爸媽媽有這個壓力我自己有三個小朋友"},{"start":1621.34,"end":1638.774,"text":"不是不是你現在講的是我是說這已經涉及到實際就是說我們在鄰近車廂的使用上面跟大家現在目前就是說不同的族群會遇到的問題不一樣那是不是應該要設親子友善的車廂呢你認為"},{"start":1639.934,"end":1661.268,"text":"親子友善的車廂這個要由高鐵公司他們去討論你沒有辦法去跟高鐵公司說你跟矢澤部長不好是不是我也可以跟他們討論你跟矢澤董事長不好是不是我想是這個樣子不一定要親子友善車廂而是每一個車廂應該對親子都要是友善的我覺得我們的國家應該是要這樣子裝潢才是正確的"},{"start":1662.949,"end":1676.205,"text":"我還要請問你現在我看到交通部對於高齡化社會的交通補助都是在公共運輸但是"},{"start":1678.147,"end":1691.441,"text":"除了六都以外甚至有一些六都我認為公共運輸都沒有就是非常的完善的情況下當然你們也補助了啊你們也補助了計程車資嘛但是"},{"start":1693.403,"end":1717.496,"text":"陳部長 你知道嗎彰化跟台北是不一樣的計程車在彰化隨便一座都是700塊 800塊上千耶那你的車子補助這樣子怎麼足夠呢那我也看到了你們提出了需求反應式的公車就是給鄉鎮公所去處理 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我們都有相關的補助政策還有一點就是我們現在目前的車輛要不要設立智慧防撞系統日本好像已經推行了這個新車都有謝謝"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":880,"blocks":[["謝委員衣鳯：（11時21分）謝謝副院長。請卓院長，還有金管會彭主委。"],["主席：請卓院長，金管會主委備詢。"],["彭主任委員金隆：委員好。"],["謝委員衣鳯：金管會要推動臺灣成為亞洲資產管理中心，我想要請問一下目前進度如何？"],["彭主任委員金隆：報告委員，在這個計畫中，我們在去年9月5日揭示了五大計畫、十六項措施正在執行。跟委員報告幾個比較重要的進度：我們大概在今年4月公布了高雄試辦專區，7月已經開張，有33家金融機構進駐，開始展開各項業務。再來，第一階段的個人儲蓄投資帳戶（TISA）已經開辦，現在大概差不多有四萬人開戶，金額來到五十億左右。還有，我們最近馬上要公布的壯大資本市場計畫，就是亞洲NASDAQ計畫，也會在21日對外宣布。另外，相關的比如放寬一些保險業投資、一些相關法規的鬆綁已經超過36項，以上是大概的內容……"],["謝委員衣鳯：需不需要財政部相關的配合與協助？例如在稅賦方面、在吸引外資來臺方面？畢竟臺灣不是國際的主要投資市場，所以怎麼樣吸引國際的資金到臺灣來？稅賦方面需不需要財政部給予相關的鬆綁？需不需要？"],["彭主任委員金隆：從全世界各個金融中心發展的歷程來看，確實有很多元素，其中稅賦的優惠在國際競爭上確實是非常重要的優勢。"],["謝委員衣鳯：雖然現在有初步的進展，但是如果沒有財政部的配合……還有，需不需要央行在外匯管制上的相關放鬆？需不需要？"],["彭主任委員金隆：跟委員報告，其實我們有很多面向可以推動。像這次的發展是希望留才跟引資並重，比如留才的部分，當然是留住本國資產，所以我們現在有些措施在做。至於引資的部分，剛剛也跟委員報告過，如果觀察其他國家，如果我們在匯率或是在稅上能比較方便，當然是有助益。但是我們也看到很多中心也不見得一定要靠稅，所以其實有很多因素。"],["謝委員衣鳯：請問一下莊部長，對稅賦方面會給予相關的協助嗎？還是不會？"],["莊部長翠雲：亞資中心有關稅賦的部分，目前現有的一些稅制已經可以提供相關的優惠，如果在執行過程當中需要稅賦方面的相關協助，當然我們要考慮它的必要性及有效性。"],["謝委員衣鳯：所以目前彭主委沒有要求，是不是？"],["莊部長翠雲：這個部分，細節的部分……"],["謝委員衣鳯：彭主委沒有向您提出相關的要求跟協助。我們想要吸引外資來臺，但他們希望對於臺幣商品的相關放鬆，我想請問楊總裁，你覺得呢？你會給予相關的放鬆嗎？"],["楊總裁金龍：那當然，我們都是配合金管會來開放的。"],["謝委員衣鳯：所以對於外匯管制，你也會給予放鬆？是什麼樣的放鬆？"],["楊總裁金龍：外匯沒有管制，外匯是管理，沒有管制。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，管理，你會給予什麼樣子的放鬆？"],["楊總裁金龍：會，當然會放鬆。"],["謝委員衣鳯：我想要聽你說啊！"],["楊總裁金龍：如果說在哪一方面……因為據我了解，金管會的推動是一步一步來的，所以它每一次一步一步推動的時候，我們都會配合的，所以到目前為止，它如果要再往前推動的話，中央銀行會義不容辭來配合他們。"],["謝委員衣鳯：對於臺幣商品的放寬呢？"],["楊總裁金龍：那當然，臺幣的商品更沒問題。"],["謝委員衣鳯：昨天彭主委在財委會有說，臺灣對於穩定幣有發行的空間……"],["楊總裁金龍：那當然有啊！"],["謝委員衣鳯：楊總裁，你的看法如何？"],["楊總裁金龍：有、有、有，還是有空間的。"],["謝委員衣鳯：我們知道，目前美國的穩定幣有綁定美元或者是相關的國庫券、美債等，未來臺灣穩定幣的發行是不是要比照美國這樣來辦理？"],["楊總裁金龍：穩定幣的監管，據我了解，美國、日本、歐洲區，還有臺灣大體上都是一樣的，都是很類似。"],["謝委員衣鳯：所以就是會綁定？"],["楊總裁金龍：是怎麼樣？"],["謝委員衣鳯：會綁定？"],["楊總裁金龍：是，一定會。"],["謝委員衣鳯：會綁定？就是穩定幣要綁定臺幣或者是我們的公債？"],["楊總裁金龍：是啦，因為發行穩定幣的時候，資產面一定要有高品質的、有流動性的資產，國庫券是在裡面，存款也是，所以在資產面是高品質且有流動性的資產。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，如果未來要發行穩定幣，是由政府機關還是由其他的金融機構來發行？"],["楊總裁金龍：金融機構，一般來講是金融機構來發行。"],["謝委員衣鳯：是讓金融機構來發行，是不是？"],["楊總裁金龍：是、是、是。"],["謝委員衣鳯：彭主委，我想要請問你，為什麼亞洲資產管理中心要去高雄？我認為彰化也是一個很好的設立地點啊，為什麼不來彰化也設呢？因為中、彰、投周邊共有500萬以上的人口數，再加上我們有非常多的傳產是供外銷的，所以非常多的外商買家會來到我們中部，會來到彰化啊，是不是讓彰化也成為亞洲資產管理中心的試辦區？是不是？不然現在重大的金融總部都在臺北嘛，為什麼是移到高雄而不移到彰化來呢？"],["彭主任委員金隆：報告委員，我也很高興聽到委員這麼說啦，其實院長也指示過，任何一個縣市只要有這個意願……"],["謝委員衣鳯：要移到彰化來，是不是？"],["彭主任委員金隆：只要有這個意願且能夠提供實質的行政或是其他方面的協助，中央這邊、金管會這邊是非常樂意的，因為我們的政策是發展臺灣為亞洲資產管理中心，是臺灣，我們當然希望擴散到全臺灣去，但是過去會選擇高雄當作第一站的試辦點，其實是因為高雄過去幾年來在這方面已經有一些基礎在做了，再來是他們願意提供很多具體的行政措施，我們就參考日本的作法來設立一個專區，其實各個地方政府可以拿出他們自己的特色，我們可以來做這件事情，我們也非常願意來配合。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，我還有一個國際金融方面的相關問題，剛好兩位專家都在這裡，我想就教一下，目前法國跟英國的政府債務占GDP的比例高達114%跟103%，目前有沒有可能像過去一樣引發歐債的相關危機？以及目前我們主要的金融機構對於法國、英國相關商品的暴險部位有多大？是不是會造成相關的影響？這個問題我想要就教兩位。"],["彭主任委員金隆：我先跟委員回答一下，當然我現在手上沒有具體的數據啦，但是我們會後可以提供，但是因為我們在……"],["謝委員衣鳯：我認為你們應該去整理一下，好不好？"],["彭主任委員金隆：是，我們……"],["謝委員衣鳯：金管會應該整理一下，就是各金融機關對於相關暴險的部位，當然不一定會發生這樣的危機，但是我們總是要知道我們目前的部位是如何，好不好？"],["彭主任委員金隆：是，我們一定有這個數據，而且各個金融機構也有一定的監控，我們金管會這邊是有這個數字在做相關監控，我們會後可以提供給委員參考。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好啊！楊總裁，你覺得會不會？"],["楊總裁金龍：我覺得以目前來講，這個就是一個政治的紛擾，當然，政治的紛擾可能也會波及到金融面，不過以目前歐元區還有英國本身的經濟及金融來看的話，應該到目前為止還好。"],["謝委員衣鳯：所以目前歐洲的部分是還好的？"],["楊總裁金龍：是還好的。"],["謝委員衣鳯：彭主委，我想要問的是，現在美國的關稅就是20%疊加嘛，對於我們上市櫃公司的整體獲利情況有什麼樣的影響？金管會有沒有做相關的盤查？"],["彭主任委員金隆：其實這件事情發生以後，我們就透過交易所跟櫃買對所有上市櫃公司做過幾次的調查，我們也根據不同的地區，比如特別在比較高關稅地區的影響，他們也有問卷回來，這個具體的數字我可能不是記得很清楚，不過大概有受到影響的比率，我記得上市櫃公司受到比較大影響的大概占18%左右，還有就是說，其實從整體來看的話，以整體上市櫃公司來講，影響還是在一個有限的範圍之內。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，我希望對於我們虛擬資產相關法律的制定，也麻煩兩位專家一定要審慎的評估，一定是要保障所有投資人以及穩定金融的安定，這才是我們對於……因為虛擬資產現在已經是一個不可逆的世界趨勢了，但是怎麼樣把風險控管，我相信對於風險控管楊總裁是專家嘛，是不是？"],["楊總裁金龍：謝謝委員。"],["謝委員衣鳯：那你應該對相關法令也要進行相關的審慎評估，並給予建議，好不好？"],["楊總裁金龍：是，沒有問題，謝謝你。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，謝謝，謝謝兩位。","接下來我想要請問院長，大陸宣布對於稀土產品的出口管制，這對於我們半導體及相關產業來說，業者很憂心這會不會造成我們目前在產品的供應鏈上面有斷鏈的危機呢？有沒有？"],["卓院長榮泰：報告委員，美中之間這種談判的變化相當迅速多元，最近發生這個狀況，我們還在評估到底含稀土的這種產品在臺灣外銷或是在臺灣出口的這個過程當中會遭到什麼樣的衝擊。另外就是他們兩個大國之間談判的觸礁會延續多久，會不會有其他變化？我認為經濟部都已經在做這樣的一個評估了。"],["謝委員衣鳯：對，可是我想要了解的是說，因為這一波大陸稀土禁止出口會不會影響到我們的半導體、電池以及馬達？這個可能會影響的層面包括像電動車產業也好，像我們的無人機產業也好，尤其是我們現在加大對於無人機的採購，但是如果對於稀土的限制出口，會不會對於我們無人機的採購造成相關的影響？"],["龔部長明鑫：報告委員，我說明一下，謝謝你。半導體的部分，因為我們製程上所需要的稀土這次沒有在管制範圍裡面，所以影響比較小。另外一個，您剛剛提到的有可能是磁鐵的部分永續磁，因為它高速馬達會受到一些影響，這個當然會影響到汽車或者是無人機，因為它都要用到高速馬達。但是也跟委員報告，因為這個稀土，基本上我們知道說，當一公布以後，國際市場上的稀土價格就上漲，但是基本上這個稀土占整個產品的比例非常非常小，成本比例非常小，所以即便它漲了百分之二十、三十，在整個產品裡面還是小的部分，所以到底會影響到整個物價上漲多少，我們可能還要再觀察一下才能夠了解。"],["謝委員衣鳯：所以，如果大陸禁止出口的時候，那我們有沒有辦法從其他管道取得？因為我看到經濟部說的是，要從我們既有回收的商品裡面再純化提煉出稀土嘛……"],["龔部長明鑫：是、是、是。"],["謝委員衣鳯：我想要知道的是，你回收的商品到底有多少，以及你再去提煉、純化出來的稀土數量到底多少？"],["龔部長明鑫：報告委員，因為中國採取這樣的作法也不是第一次，之前2010年已經採用過，所以每個國家事實上都在分散這樣的可能的風險，包括有些國家也開始開採。主要的原因倒是說，因為他在開採跟精煉的過程當中需要用到強酸等等一些情況，可能會對環境上有所破壞，但是一旦如果遭受到這樣的管制的話，免不了還是要持續。當然剛剛委員提到的就是，有些既有用的再回收、再精煉，日本事實上一直在做這樣的事情……"],["謝委員衣鳯：那我們臺灣也要做嗎？"],["龔部長明鑫：我們現在要輔導廠商開始做這樣的事情，因為過去來講，我們進口的都是半成品材料或者是設備，基本上這些歐美國家跟日本已經做成半成品了，所以是他們在進口稀土的原始材料，那我們跟他買。我剛才跟委員報告的就是，稀土占整個材料的成本基本上是比較小一點，所以還是要看他的供應鏈關係才能夠判斷，但是……"],["謝委員衣鳯：那回收、純煉這個部分是你主責還是環境部？"],["龔部長明鑫：對廠商的輔導，如果就整個產業發展的角度來說，需求者是我們，但是如果就回收產業的角度……"],["謝委員衣鳯：主管機關是環境部？那環境部要協助啊！"],["龔部長明鑫：對、對、對，環境部也會。"],["彭部長啓明：報告委員，我們已經在過去這幾個月，從美國有關稅的議題開始，我們就在做準備，所以我們現在正在盤點，例如說我們有幾家做得不錯的，我們也希望變成一個稀有貴金屬的國家隊，我們會跟經濟部密切地來合作，現在在整隊當中。"],["謝委員衣鳯：因為我覺得環境部好像最近從很多次的颱風也好，風災也好，剛好院長在這裡，我也要講，在這一次的風災當中，我說的這是非常小的事情，一個田中的稻梗，過去環境部規劃的是讓它自然在環境中腐化，但是在這次的風災當中，很多稻田沒有辦法承受稻梗的自然腐化，如果將稻梗放在稻田旁邊的時候，當風災時水來了，它就會堵塞所有的排水口，甚至影響我們的發電設施、水利設施等等的，這個情況環境部都沒有預先去盤查。你沒有預先盤查，本來可以，對於業者來講，如果稻梗的回收沒有辦法作為很好的SRS等等材料的時候，那我們未來要怎樣做？部長，這個東西我也就教你很多次了。"],["彭部長啓明：對。報告委員，那個稻梗是一件事情，因為當地也有人說希望可以焚燒，但是我們認為這個會污染到空氣……"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，你不要焚燒，那你要提出第二個作法嘛……"],["彭部長啓明：對，不能焚燒。有。"],["謝委員衣鳯：不要讓它在風災以後對我們造成二次傷害嘛，是不是？"],["彭部長啓明：是、是。"],["謝委員衣鳯：這樣風災結束後，我們才能夠儘快整理好環境，不會影響到民眾的日常生活啊！不是嗎？"],["彭部長啓明：是，這個部分因為稻梗可以用一些加速腐化的方式來進行，我們現在在研究這樣一個方案，因應下一次……"],["謝委員衣鳯：你還在腐化、你還在加速腐化，你看，院長！"],["彭部長啓明：因為其實這個速度要一個禮拜，所以我們在想更快的方法當中。"],["謝委員衣鳯：對啊！如果風災又來，像上一次七、八月的連日豪雨，你還在腐化，那還來得及嗎？"],["彭部長啓明：來不及。"],["謝委員衣鳯：如果再塞、再塞，然後塞了所有的排水設施、所有的集水設施、所有的發電設施，這會對於我們民眾、民生產生非常重大的影響，這是非常小的事情，這不需要修法，而是應該在行政措施上面有作為，是不是？"],["彭部長啓明：是、是、是，這個我們會跟農業部一起來努力。報告委員，您提到的稀有貴金屬，的確我們很努力在盤點，因為這是我們國家未來最重要的資材，我們希望做到內循環，努力來做。"],["謝委員衣鳯：美國現在準備花10億美元做緊急的戰備採購，那我們有沒有這樣相關的打算呢？我們現在進行的是提煉、精煉的技術，是不是？"],["彭部長啓明：目前我們在盤點，因為我們很多業者其實都很隱藏在社會當中，沒有讓別人知道，但是其實他跟我們的互動非常的密切，例如鎢、鈷、鎳、銅等等，他們都很積極在做內循環的工作，不過，他們目前有很多都直接出口到日本去，我們希望它留在臺灣，我們自己用。"],["謝委員衣鳯：所以要限制相關商品的出口嗎？"],["彭部長啓明：不會限制，但是希望……"],["謝委員衣鳯：限制相關重金屬回收精煉產品的出口嗎？是不是？"],["彭部長啓明：我們希望它的技術提升，然後可以在臺灣，我們可以自己拿來用，變成我們的戰備物資。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，院長，是這樣子嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：對，我們當然希望這些物資如果在分析的成本上面，我們協助它能夠來降低，它留在國內，讓我們可以做充分的使用，對我們百工百業，甚至我們的國防工業都有實質上的需求跟協助。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，謝謝兩位。我想要再請我們農業部長。"],["主席：農業部請備詢。"],["謝委員衣鳯：我想請教一下，美國希望我們在關稅談判上面可以排除非貿易方面的障礙，那我想請問，他會不會要求稻米的進口要取消這個關稅，會不會？"],["陳部長駿季：我想因為現在臺美談判還在進行中，相關的談判，我之前也說了，不管是美國或臺灣，我們有各自的期待，但是農業部一定是在確保糧食安全、讓我們整個農業產業環境能夠永續發展，還有就是能夠維護我們農民權益這三個前提之下，我們跟美國一直在持續的談判。"],["謝委員衣鳯：我昨天也有就教部長關於蝴蝶蘭的事情，是不是？"],["陳部長駿季：是。"],["謝委員衣鳯：如果蝴蝶蘭要赴美去做大苗小苗的生產，我們會使用台糖的土地給予協助，那對於我們的稻米出口呢？你已經有到日本去做相關的設點考察，對於臺灣的稻米出口，過去你說即便是加上關稅，我們都有相關的價值，跟日本米比起來，我們還是有競爭力，就這個部分，你有什麼樣的進展？"],["陳部長駿季：我想跟委員報告，我們稻米的自給率大概是108%，所以我們有足夠的能量可以外銷，特別是我們的產品優質，我以日本的市場為例，因為日本的市場進去，同樣要有關稅配額，還有關稅這些問題，但是以今年來講，我們銷到日本已經將近8,000噸左右，同樣的，我們走的是高端市場的時候，那就會把關稅的這些差異性能夠做部分的抵銷，我們不會走到平價的市場，我們是走高端市場，而日本，我們現在透過幾個重要的通路，也的確達成了……"],["謝委員衣鳯：但是我想要知道的是到底有多少，過去我們輸日的可能都是變成次級品，我們的稻米出口都是變成次級品，可能變成飼料用米，我們現在要走高值化，你要給出成績啊！你沒有成績，大家怎麼敢跟你一起去，是不是？"],["陳部長駿季：我謝謝委員這樣一個詢問。我要跟委員說明，我們輸到日本的部分絕對不會用次級米輸出，反而是我們現在應該去加強所有不管是公糧倉庫、民糧倉庫本身這些相關的稻米貯存環境的改善，環境改善以後，相對的我們一期作當期這些稻米能夠及時輸出的話，就不會變成所謂的飼料米。"],["謝委員衣鳯：對。我是說我們當然希望是這樣的情況，但是你要給出成績單啊！是不是？你要有相關的成績，不是去設一個代表處而已，是不是？"],["陳部長駿季：我們絕對不會。我想到各地去做行銷站，用一個常駐點並不是我們所期待的，我們希望能夠有通路的鏈結，特別是我們臺灣在日本或是在新加坡有很多不同的米的品牌，特別是像富里的皇后有機米在日本就非常有名，所以我們希望用品牌的方式結合優質的方式去做行銷。"],["謝委員衣鳯：我們彰化的富米也很有名，你也要帶我們彰化的富米去。"],["陳部長駿季：我知道，彰化也有。"],["謝委員衣鳯：對啊！你都沒有帶我們彰化去，然後也沒給出成績單，大家怎麼會……"],["陳部長駿季：有啦！絕對有啦！我們一起來努力，我想針對稻米的輸出，還有一些民糧，不管是民糧的這些糧商，我們都會一起來努力。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，謝謝陳部長。","我還要請交通部部長。"],["主席：請交通部陳部長。"],["謝委員衣鳯：陳部長，我要就教於你，我想要請問，高鐵的寧靜車廂現在已經發生婦女帶小朋友上車以後，當然現在能生好幾個的很少，但是有一個孩子吵，另外一個孩子坐在車廂裡，這要怎麼處理啊？這有沒有違反了兒少法相關的原則呢？"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，您所說的這個案例高鐵公司有……"],["謝委員衣鳯：石部長說有，是不是？"],["陳部長世凱：不是，高鐵公司有出來澄清，很像沒有這件事情。"],["謝委員衣鳯：沒有這個事情？"],["陳部長世凱：您說的這個案例，就是一個媽媽把一個孩子留在車廂，將另外一位帶到外面去的這個事情，高鐵公司有出來澄清並沒有這件事，這是第一點。第二點……"],["謝委員衣鳯：所以是新聞不實的報導？是嗎？"],["陳部長世凱：我不曉得是不是新聞不實的報導，但高鐵公司有出來澄清這件事。但是委員您在說的這個寧靜車廂的政策……"],["謝委員衣鳯：還是他不了解實際的情況？因為每天的車次這麼多。"],["陳部長世凱：他們有調查過。"],["謝委員衣鳯：是不是他不了解實際的情況？"],["陳部長世凱：他們有調查過，沒有這件事。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，就算如此，未來發生同樣情況的時候，怎麼樣子讓寧靜車廂與兒少保護能夠……"],["陳部長世凱：好，報告委員，這個部分其實全民都很關心，針對寧靜車廂的部分，其實相當多民眾是支持哪個部分呢？是支持例如講手機就儘量小聲或者到玄關去講，或者是在用3C產品看影片的時候必須要戴耳機，不要去吵到旁邊的人，這個部分其實我相信社會是有大部分的共識。但是對於兒少的部分，我認為高鐵公司可以做得更細緻、更細膩，讓所有的爸媽不要有擔心的狀況或者是有壓力，這個部分是高鐵公司必須要努力的部分。那這個部分其實我看這兩天高鐵公司也做出一些精進的方案，他們也希望不要給爸爸媽媽有這個壓力。我自己有三個小朋友，在帶小朋友上車的時候……"],["謝委員衣鳯：不是、不是，你現在講的是……我是說這已經涉及到我們實際在寧靜車廂的使用上面，跟目前不同族群會遇到的問題不一樣，是不是應該要設親子友善車廂呢？你認為。"],["陳部長世凱：親子友善的車廂要由高鐵公司他們去討論啦！"],["謝委員衣鳯：你沒有辦法去跟高鐵公司說，是不是？"],["陳部長世凱：可以啊！我也可以跟他們討論。"],["謝委員衣鳯：你跟史哲董事長不好，是不是？"],["陳部長世凱：我也可以跟他們討論這個議題。我想是這個樣子，不一定要親子友善車廂，而是每一個車廂應該對親子都要是友善的，我覺得我們的國家應該是要這樣子的狀況才是正確的。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好。"],["陳部長世凱：所有車廂都應該要對親子友善，因為……"],["謝委員衣鳯：我還想要請問你，現在我看到交通部對於高齡化社會的交通補助都是在公共運輸，但是除了六都以外，甚至有一些六都，我認為公共運輸都沒有非常完善的情況下，當然你們也補助啦，你們也補助了計程車資嘛！但是陳部長，你知道嗎？彰化跟臺北是不一樣的，計程車在彰化隨便一坐都是700塊、800塊，上千欸！那你的車資補助怎麼足夠呢？我也看到你們提出的需求反應式公車，就是給鄉鎮公所去處理……"],["陳部長世凱：可以讓他們用預約的方式沒錯，幸福小黃跟幸福巴士。"],["謝委員衣鳯：但是沒有相關的經費啊，你要請司機，是不是？這個補貼是不是應該要不同，因為城鄉差距，沒有像都市型公共運輸這麼完整的部分，你是不是應該要做不一樣的方式來協助？"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，所有的鄉鎮市公所，如果是比較偏鄉有這個需求申請幸福巴士或者幸福小黃，我們都有相關經費在補助，我們幾乎跟所有鄉鎮市公所都有這樣的合作。"],["謝委員衣鳯：對，我是說還有其他的部分，就是你只補助了車，還有路線，當然營運需要請司機、相關油料，這部分有沒有？"],["陳部長世凱：我們是長期在做補助，長期跟地方政府都有合作，這部分我們持續在推動，目前的普及率已經到達97%，我們希望能夠推到百分之百，這個部分我們還在努力。"],["謝委員衣鳯：沒有，對於公共運輸的相關補助、對於高齡化的社會，我認為交通部對於偏鄉以及六都以外的縣市，尤其是我們彰化縣，應該要給予鄉鎮公所，或者是像這樣的需求反應式公車，更多相關的補助。"],["卓院長榮泰：跟委員報告，您關心的這個議題，交通部曾經在行政院的院會裡面正式報告過，我們也做了相關裁示，當天我還記得我非常肯定交通部的作法，或許相關資料沒有辦法讓委員能夠了解，我們對於長者的注意、偏鄉的幸福小黃、幸福巴士，我們都有相關的補助政策在推動。"],["謝委員衣鳯：還有最後一點，就是我們現在的車輛要不要設立智慧防撞系統，日本好像已經推行了？"],["陳部長世凱：這個新車都有。"],["謝委員衣鳯：對，那舊車呢？"],["陳部長世凱：舊車就變成要改裝，經費可能會相當龐大。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝委員，謝謝卓院長。","報告院會，上午的質詢到此為止，下午2時15分處理臨時提案，下午2時30分繼續進行質詢，現在休息。","休息（11時52分）","繼續開會（14時15分）"]],"agenda":{"page_end":23,"meet_id":"院會-11-4-4","speakers":["韓國瑜","江啟臣"],"page_start":1,"meetingDate":["2025-10-14"],"gazette_id":"1147901","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1147901_00002"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第4會期第4次會議紀錄","content":"報告事項","agenda_id":"1147901_00001"}}}