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00:01:02,908\n委員好部長我想請問一下現在我們的雜糧轉做那根據農委會的農業部的辦法都是由綠色環境給付來做那其實我們知道我們兩大的我們最大主要的作物是稻米那怎麼樣子第一個我一直長期就是在關注怎麼樣子把我們的米可以外銷到日本\n\n3\n00:01:03,388 --> 00:01:32,708\n那第二個就是能夠協助我們的雜糧作物提高因為現在的民眾非常注意健康那雜糧作物對於我們民眾在使用上面是一個非常優質的澱粉的來源那現在不管是花生也好不管是地瓜也好都是就是它的那個價格非常的好\n\n4\n00:01:33,268 --> 00:01:48,170\n那怎麼樣子提高這兩個第一個就是怎麼樣子協助我們的稻米蔬日然後第二個怎麼樣子讓我們的雜糧作物可以提高耕種面積\n\n5\n00:01:49,401 --> 00:02:11,529\n非常謝謝委員就是其實委員長期在支持這個農業特別是針對稻米跟雜糧並種要去支持那我先回答就是稻米輸日本的部分那其實我們對日本現在從鳳梨開始我們已經建立了非常好的這些國際的通路那這些通路從我們過去的現在今年度的稻米輸到日本至少\n\n6\n00:02:11,889 --> 00:02:27,720\n比去年度還提高了三倍多快四倍那我們都是根據現有的這些通路的鏈接所以品牌是一個非常重要的然後第二個部分是我們的米一定要有市場的區隔化所以我們有很多\n\n7\n00:02:29,341 --> 00:02:48,152\n我跟你講在來之前我查了Gimini這是另外一個AI的像ChatGTV我不是查ChatGTV我不知道你的回答Gimini我也是查Gimini的你是Gimini嗎然後我跟你講他就說了品牌的差異化嘛然後還有一個是什麼\n\n8\n00:02:48,932 --> 00:03:16,424\n是農就是他們的檢疫非常的嚴格嘛是不是日本對於稻米的檢疫對就是它的沒有檢疫喔品質是另外一部分我們台灣的米品質也很好對對對那檢疫的部分我希望你可以協助我們的農民去符合日本的檢疫好不好絕對可以這個可以嗎我們外銷專區都一定是符合日本的相關的檢疫規定\n\n9\n00:03:17,804 --> 00:03:34,974\n對然後再來就是品牌的差異嘛我也查了Gimini我跟你說它上面提到只有台南的11號我們彰化194號的香米你都沒有給我們大力的promote我們都有喔所有的\n\n10\n00:03:35,854 --> 00:04:00,352\n這個他可以查到就是你們農業部以及相關的行銷資料嘛那我看到的就是我們彰化的194號你都沒有大力的行銷啊他的米粒米香還有持久度就是說他的持久度都是非常好的嘛是不是那應該是日本人也可以接受的啊那你為什麼沒有行銷呢\n\n11\n00:04:02,717 --> 00:04:27,715\n行銷的部分分兩個層次第一個就是說要品牌協助我相信我們只要彰化這邊的米廠願意來要去行銷日本我們一定會事先去協助他做這些產品的農藥有沒有可能超標的檢測我們會主動的來協助第二個部分就是他本身的品牌願意協助的時候我們都願意提供一些經費讓他做品牌的行鎖我們彰化有啊\n\n12\n00:04:28,015 --> 00:04:47,578\n竹湯20都有嘛那我們再去找看有沒有其他的我們同仁說竹湯我們有協助對你們要大力的協助好不好田中也有是不是就是對他們田中還有一些委員一直關切我們其實很重視包括田中竹湯我們都有在協助\n\n13\n00:04:48,438 --> 00:05:08,785\n對如果就是說要大力的協助我們台灣的米可以出口在這個期間因為這剛好是日本米他們遇到那個氣候的問題嘛那他們的產量不足他們的供應量嘛我們藉由這個期間應該要打進去嘛把我們台灣米的品牌做出來打進去啊是不是\n\n14\n00:05:09,665 --> 00:05:37,495\n然後第二個雜糧怎麼樣提高雜糧的部分我們在雜糧做獎獎勵的部分就是是國內需要的我們需要他種更多的時候我們會給予一些加碼的獎勵但是如果說國內已經可能再種多一點以後產銷餘裕的時候我們就不會再度提供的這些獎勵您剛才講的花生有沒有跟你的甘薯那事實上他現在產銷大概是一個達到一個平衡點但是我們不做獎勵我們在農機\n\n15\n00:05:38,916 --> 00:06:06,423\n不做獎勵的有什麼硬脂玉米是不是硬脂玉米有會嗎會硬脂玉米有對七萬塊一公頃硬脂玉米還會持續是不是一公頃七萬塊好那我想要請問喔就是現在我們對美的採購就是就是一百億嘛是那就是過去我們大宗的黃曉玉的這個物資嘛是對不對那做飼料的是那\n\n16\n00:06:06,983 --> 00:06:27,185\n我們對於台灣的這些就是說種植的廠商那如果我知道的就是過去我們有協助落農也有轉種這個就是我們要木草或者是什麼樣子那這個部分怎麼樣處理\n\n17\n00:06:28,106 --> 00:06:45,396\n我想這個牧草的部分我想我們後續也會拿到相關的獎勵已經放進去了之前沒有放但現在已經放進去了牧草的獎勵種植牧草提供我們養牛的部分我們也有獎勵的部分但是我要這個也要放進去是不是我要跟委員報告就是我們這次的採購\n\n18\n00:06:46,937 --> 00:07:15,590\n第一個就是因為飼料成本是佔我們的生產成本很高那我們如果透過這種聯合採購業者的自行的聯合採購的話可以降低成本是對我們農民有幫助的而且我們國內的特別是國內的這些大豆有沒有都是實用的因為國內的大豆都是很多都是有機的還有產交履歷的這個是有它的獨特的市場我們不會去干擾它所以我們進來一定是飼料用對我們農民是有幫助的\n\n19\n00:07:17,150 --> 00:07:26,415\n我希望就是對美的採購不要就是為了就是關稅的談判不要犧牲農民的權利好不好絕對不要犧牲農民的權利應該是怎麼樣子讓我們台灣的農產品在這個階段你可以外銷出去嗎是不是\n\n20\n00:07:38,180 --> 00:08:03,929\n你應該協助台灣不管是蝴蝶蘭也好不管是我們的魚也好或者是我們的稻米也好趁這個機會然後在全球的這個供應鏈在就是全球的市場在做重組的時候我們是不是應該要想辦法協助我們的農民把農產品銷出去是不是對這個是一個非常重要的觀念謝謝委員的提醒就是我們\n\n21\n00:08:06,109 --> 00:08:20,314\n針對從美國進口或其他國家進口一定是補我們國內不足的部分不會說國內種很多的我們又去進口可是你們進了很多那個什麼牛肉會不會影響到我們本土豬肉的我想我們的牛肉的自給率只有4.6\n\n22\n00:08:22,095 --> 00:08:42,192\n你进了很多美国牛会不会影响到我们台湾猪肉我想这个部分就是因为进口量就在那边不同的国家都会彼此竞争像美国的牛肉如果多的话它从澳洲纽西兰的牛肉就会变少所以不同的竞争输入国之间的竞争对国内的产业不会有影响的\n\n23\n00:08:42,752 --> 00:08:53,545\n還有影響食安相關的重要的問題你也要處理好不好邊境檢疫什麼你都要跟衛福部做好那個好不好對了解謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2087\t28403\t对啊等他们那个来我们大家做好我们的各单位做好我们现在请谢玉凤委员咨询谢谢谢谢主席我想要请陈部长我们请陈部长\n34300\t62908\t委員好部長我想請問一下現在我們的雜糧轉做那根據農委會的農業部的辦法都是由綠色環境給付來做那其實我們知道我們兩大的我們最大主要的作物是稻米那怎麼樣子第一個我一直長期就是在關注怎麼樣子把我們的米可以外銷到日本\n63388\t92708\t那第二個就是能夠協助我們的雜糧作物提高因為現在的民眾非常注意健康那雜糧作物對於我們民眾在使用上面是一個非常優質的澱粉的來源那現在不管是花生也好不管是地瓜也好都是就是它的那個價格非常的好\n93268\t108170\t那怎麼樣子提高這兩個第一個就是怎麼樣子協助我們的稻米蔬日然後第二個怎麼樣子讓我們的雜糧作物可以提高耕種面積\n109401\t131529\t非常謝謝委員就是其實委員長期在支持這個農業特別是針對稻米跟雜糧並種要去支持那我先回答就是稻米輸日本的部分那其實我們對日本現在從鳳梨開始我們已經建立了非常好的這些國際的通路那這些通路從我們過去的現在今年度的稻米輸到日本至少\n131889\t147720\t比去年度還提高了三倍多快四倍那我們都是根據現有的這些通路的鏈接所以品牌是一個非常重要的然後第二個部分是我們的米一定要有市場的區隔化所以我們有很多\n149341\t168152\t我跟你講在來之前我查了Gimini這是另外一個AI的像ChatGTV我不是查ChatGTV我不知道你的回答Gimini我也是查Gimini的你是Gimini嗎然後我跟你講他就說了品牌的差異化嘛然後還有一個是什麼\n168932\t196424\t是 農 就是他們的檢疫非常的嚴格嘛是不是 日本對於稻米的檢疫對 就是它的 沒有 檢疫喔 品質是另外一部分我們台灣的米 品質也很好對對對 那檢疫的部分我希望你可以協助我們的農民去符合日本的檢疫好不好絕對可以這個可以嗎我們外銷專區都一定是符合日本的相關的檢疫規定\n197804\t214974\t對 然後再來就是品牌的差異嘛我也查了Gimini我跟你說它上面提到只有台南的11號我們彰化194號的香米你都沒有給我們大力的promote我們都有喔所有的\n215854\t240352\t這個他可以查到就是你們農業部以及相關的行銷資料嘛那我看到的就是我們彰化的194號你都沒有大力的行銷啊他的米粒米香還有持久度就是說他的持久度都是非常好的嘛是不是那應該是日本人也可以接受的啊那你為什麼沒有行銷呢\n242717\t267715\t行銷的部分分兩個層次第一個就是說要品牌協助我相信我們只要彰化這邊的米廠願意來要去行銷日本我們一定會事先去協助他做這些產品的農藥有沒有可能超標的檢測我們會主動的來協助第二個部分就是他本身的品牌願意協助的時候我們都願意提供一些經費讓他做品牌的行鎖我們彰化有啊\n268015\t287578\t竹湯 20都有嘛那我們再去找看有沒有其他的我們同仁說竹湯我們有協助對你們要大力的協助好不好田中也有是不是就是對他們田中還有一些委員一直關切我們其實很重視包括田中竹湯我們都有在協助\n288438\t308785\t對 如果就是說要大力的協助我們台灣的米可以出口在這個期間因為這剛好是日本米他們遇到那個氣候的問題嘛那他們的產量不足他們的供應量嘛我們藉由這個期間應該要打進去嘛把我們台灣米的品牌做出來打進去啊是不是\n309665\t337495\t然後第二個雜糧怎麼樣提高雜糧的部分我們在雜糧做獎獎勵的部分就是是國內需要的我們需要他種更多的時候我們會給予一些加碼的獎勵但是如果說國內已經可能再種多一點以後產銷餘裕的時候我們就不會再度提供的這些獎勵您剛才講的花生有沒有跟你的甘薯那事實上他現在產銷大概是一個達到一個平衡點但是我們不做獎勵我們在農機\n338916\t366423\t不做獎勵的有什麼 硬脂玉米是不是硬脂玉米有 會嗎 會 硬脂玉米有對 七萬塊一公頃硬脂玉米還會持續是不是 一公頃七萬塊好 那我想要請問喔就是現在我們對美的採購就是就是一百億嘛 是 那就是過去我們大宗的黃曉玉的這個物資嘛 是對不對 那做飼料的 是 那\n366983\t387185\t我們對於台灣的這些就是說種植的廠商那如果我知道的就是過去我們有協助落農也有轉種這個就是我們要木草或者是什麼樣子那這個部分怎麼樣處理\n388106\t405396\t我想這個牧草的部分我想我們後續也會拿到相關的獎勵已經放進去了之前沒有放但現在已經放進去了牧草的獎勵種植牧草提供我們養牛的部分我們也有獎勵的部分但是我要這個也要放進去是不是我要跟委員報告就是我們這次的採購\n406937\t435590\t第一個就是因為飼料成本是佔我們的生產成本很高那我們如果透過這種聯合採購業者的自行的聯合採購的話可以降低成本是對我們農民有幫助的而且我們國內的特別是國內的這些大豆有沒有都是實用的因為國內的大豆都是很多都是有機的還有產交履歷的這個是有它的獨特的市場我們不會去干擾它所以我們進來一定是飼料用對我們農民是有幫助的\n437150\t446415\t我希望就是對美的採購不要就是為了就是關稅的談判不要犧牲農民的權利好不好絕對不要犧牲農民的權利應該是怎麼樣子讓我們台灣的農產品在這個階段你可以外銷出去嗎是不是\n458180\t483929\t你應該協助台灣不管是蝴蝶蘭也好不管是我們的魚也好或者是我們的稻米也好趁這個機會然後在全球的這個供應鏈在就是全球的市場在做重組的時候我們是不是應該要想辦法協助我們的農民把農產品銷出去是不是對 這個是一個非常重要的觀念謝謝委員的提醒就是我們\n486109\t500314\t針對從美國進口或其他國家進口一定是補我們國內不足的部分不會說國內種很多的我們又去進口可是你們進了很多那個什麼牛肉會不會影響到我們本土豬肉的我想我們的牛肉的自給率只有4.6\n502095\t522192\t你进了很多美国牛会不会影响到我们台湾猪肉我想这个部分就是因为进口量就在那边不同的国家都会彼此竞争像美国的牛肉如果多的话它从澳洲纽西兰的牛肉就会变少所以不同的竞争输入国之间的竞争对国内的产业不会有影响的\n522752\t533545\t還有影響食安相關的重要的問題你也要處理好不好邊境檢疫什麼你都要跟衛福部做好那個好不好對 了解 謝謝委員\n","txt":"对啊等他们那个来我们大家做好我们的各单位做好我们现在请谢玉凤委员咨询谢谢谢谢主席我想要请陈部长我们请陈部长\n委員好部長我想請問一下現在我們的雜糧轉做那根據農委會的農業部的辦法都是由綠色環境給付來做那其實我們知道我們兩大的我們最大主要的作物是稻米那怎麼樣子第一個我一直長期就是在關注怎麼樣子把我們的米可以外銷到日本\n那第二個就是能夠協助我們的雜糧作物提高因為現在的民眾非常注意健康那雜糧作物對於我們民眾在使用上面是一個非常優質的澱粉的來源那現在不管是花生也好不管是地瓜也好都是就是它的那個價格非常的好\n那怎麼樣子提高這兩個第一個就是怎麼樣子協助我們的稻米蔬日然後第二個怎麼樣子讓我們的雜糧作物可以提高耕種面積\n非常謝謝委員就是其實委員長期在支持這個農業特別是針對稻米跟雜糧並種要去支持那我先回答就是稻米輸日本的部分那其實我們對日本現在從鳳梨開始我們已經建立了非常好的這些國際的通路那這些通路從我們過去的現在今年度的稻米輸到日本至少\n比去年度還提高了三倍多快四倍那我們都是根據現有的這些通路的鏈接所以品牌是一個非常重要的然後第二個部分是我們的米一定要有市場的區隔化所以我們有很多\n我跟你講在來之前我查了Gimini這是另外一個AI的像ChatGTV我不是查ChatGTV我不知道你的回答Gimini我也是查Gimini的你是Gimini嗎然後我跟你講他就說了品牌的差異化嘛然後還有一個是什麼\n是 農 就是他們的檢疫非常的嚴格嘛是不是 日本對於稻米的檢疫對 就是它的 沒有 檢疫喔 品質是另外一部分我們台灣的米 品質也很好對對對 那檢疫的部分我希望你可以協助我們的農民去符合日本的檢疫好不好絕對可以這個可以嗎我們外銷專區都一定是符合日本的相關的檢疫規定\n對 然後再來就是品牌的差異嘛我也查了Gimini我跟你說它上面提到只有台南的11號我們彰化194號的香米你都沒有給我們大力的promote我們都有喔所有的\n這個他可以查到就是你們農業部以及相關的行銷資料嘛那我看到的就是我們彰化的194號你都沒有大力的行銷啊他的米粒米香還有持久度就是說他的持久度都是非常好的嘛是不是那應該是日本人也可以接受的啊那你為什麼沒有行銷呢\n行銷的部分分兩個層次第一個就是說要品牌協助我相信我們只要彰化這邊的米廠願意來要去行銷日本我們一定會事先去協助他做這些產品的農藥有沒有可能超標的檢測我們會主動的來協助第二個部分就是他本身的品牌願意協助的時候我們都願意提供一些經費讓他做品牌的行鎖我們彰化有啊\n竹湯 20都有嘛那我們再去找看有沒有其他的我們同仁說竹湯我們有協助對你們要大力的協助好不好田中也有是不是就是對他們田中還有一些委員一直關切我們其實很重視包括田中竹湯我們都有在協助\n對 如果就是說要大力的協助我們台灣的米可以出口在這個期間因為這剛好是日本米他們遇到那個氣候的問題嘛那他們的產量不足他們的供應量嘛我們藉由這個期間應該要打進去嘛把我們台灣米的品牌做出來打進去啊是不是\n然後第二個雜糧怎麼樣提高雜糧的部分我們在雜糧做獎獎勵的部分就是是國內需要的我們需要他種更多的時候我們會給予一些加碼的獎勵但是如果說國內已經可能再種多一點以後產銷餘裕的時候我們就不會再度提供的這些獎勵您剛才講的花生有沒有跟你的甘薯那事實上他現在產銷大概是一個達到一個平衡點但是我們不做獎勵我們在農機\n不做獎勵的有什麼 硬脂玉米是不是硬脂玉米有 會嗎 會 硬脂玉米有對 七萬塊一公頃硬脂玉米還會持續是不是 一公頃七萬塊好 那我想要請問喔就是現在我們對美的採購就是就是一百億嘛 是 那就是過去我們大宗的黃曉玉的這個物資嘛 是對不對 那做飼料的 是 那\n我們對於台灣的這些就是說種植的廠商那如果我知道的就是過去我們有協助落農也有轉種這個就是我們要木草或者是什麼樣子那這個部分怎麼樣處理\n我想這個牧草的部分我想我們後續也會拿到相關的獎勵已經放進去了之前沒有放但現在已經放進去了牧草的獎勵種植牧草提供我們養牛的部分我們也有獎勵的部分但是我要這個也要放進去是不是我要跟委員報告就是我們這次的採購\n第一個就是因為飼料成本是佔我們的生產成本很高那我們如果透過這種聯合採購業者的自行的聯合採購的話可以降低成本是對我們農民有幫助的而且我們國內的特別是國內的這些大豆有沒有都是實用的因為國內的大豆都是很多都是有機的還有產交履歷的這個是有它的獨特的市場我們不會去干擾它所以我們進來一定是飼料用對我們農民是有幫助的\n我希望就是對美的採購不要就是為了就是關稅的談判不要犧牲農民的權利好不好絕對不要犧牲農民的權利應該是怎麼樣子讓我們台灣的農產品在這個階段你可以外銷出去嗎是不是\n你應該協助台灣不管是蝴蝶蘭也好不管是我們的魚也好或者是我們的稻米也好趁這個機會然後在全球的這個供應鏈在就是全球的市場在做重組的時候我們是不是應該要想辦法協助我們的農民把農產品銷出去是不是對 這個是一個非常重要的觀念謝謝委員的提醒就是我們\n針對從美國進口或其他國家進口一定是補我們國內不足的部分不會說國內種很多的我們又去進口可是你們進了很多那個什麼牛肉會不會影響到我們本土豬肉的我想我們的牛肉的自給率只有4.6\n你进了很多美国牛会不会影响到我们台湾猪肉我想这个部分就是因为进口量就在那边不同的国家都会彼此竞争像美国的牛肉如果多的话它从澳洲纽西兰的牛肉就会变少所以不同的竞争输入国之间的竞争对国内的产业不会有影响的\n還有影響食安相關的重要的問題你也要處理好不好邊境檢疫什麼你都要跟衛福部做好那個好不好對 了解 謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.087 --> 00:28.403\n对啊等他们那个来我们大家做好我们的各单位做好我们现在请谢玉凤委员咨询谢谢谢谢主席我想要请陈部长我们请陈部长\n\n00:34.300 --> 01:02.908\n委員好部長我想請問一下現在我們的雜糧轉做那根據農委會的農業部的辦法都是由綠色環境給付來做那其實我們知道我們兩大的我們最大主要的作物是稻米那怎麼樣子第一個我一直長期就是在關注怎麼樣子把我們的米可以外銷到日本\n\n01:03.388 --> 01:32.708\n那第二個就是能夠協助我們的雜糧作物提高因為現在的民眾非常注意健康那雜糧作物對於我們民眾在使用上面是一個非常優質的澱粉的來源那現在不管是花生也好不管是地瓜也好都是就是它的那個價格非常的好\n\n01:33.268 --> 01:48.170\n那怎麼樣子提高這兩個第一個就是怎麼樣子協助我們的稻米蔬日然後第二個怎麼樣子讓我們的雜糧作物可以提高耕種面積\n\n01:49.401 --> 02:11.529\n非常謝謝委員就是其實委員長期在支持這個農業特別是針對稻米跟雜糧並種要去支持那我先回答就是稻米輸日本的部分那其實我們對日本現在從鳳梨開始我們已經建立了非常好的這些國際的通路那這些通路從我們過去的現在今年度的稻米輸到日本至少\n\n02:11.889 --> 02:27.720\n比去年度還提高了三倍多快四倍那我們都是根據現有的這些通路的鏈接所以品牌是一個非常重要的然後第二個部分是我們的米一定要有市場的區隔化所以我們有很多\n\n02:29.341 --> 02:48.152\n我跟你講在來之前我查了Gimini這是另外一個AI的像ChatGTV我不是查ChatGTV我不知道你的回答Gimini我也是查Gimini的你是Gimini嗎然後我跟你講他就說了品牌的差異化嘛然後還有一個是什麼\n\n02:48.932 --> 03:16.424\n是農就是他們的檢疫非常的嚴格嘛是不是日本對於稻米的檢疫對就是它的沒有檢疫喔品質是另外一部分我們台灣的米品質也很好對對對那檢疫的部分我希望你可以協助我們的農民去符合日本的檢疫好不好絕對可以這個可以嗎我們外銷專區都一定是符合日本的相關的檢疫規定\n\n03:17.804 --> 03:34.974\n對然後再來就是品牌的差異嘛我也查了Gimini我跟你說它上面提到只有台南的11號我們彰化194號的香米你都沒有給我們大力的promote我們都有喔所有的\n\n03:35.854 --> 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