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00:02:37,448\n因為這樣正面的好處所以在今年117年我們重新再次的計劃再提出來本來要展現130但是後來因為經過委員會的討論評選選出473就因為有特朗普委員講的暫時\n\n9\n00:02:55,507 --> 00:02:57,029\n因為報告中沒有看到你就寫沒有說九成或者是他們的成功率有哪一些比如說他成功的是有哪一些留下哪一些\n\n10\n00:03:17,492 --> 00:03:34,402\n所以说你有这样子的一份资料可以提供给我吗所以我可以就是要一一的去给他们拜访因为有这样的成功因为在地创生就是刚才说的很多就是中断所以说我们客家委员会这边可以做的那么好\n\n11\n00:03:35,686 --> 00:03:41,331\n給我一份資料好不好好沒問題好再來呢就是我們查到就是科委會在109年曾經獎助了30萬給屏東科技大學科家產業研究所鄭順發教授的團隊\n\n12\n00:03:55,122 --> 00:04:02,406\n進行了一份地方火花中的客庄創生從收縮城市理論探究傳統客庄再生的困局與策略的研究報告最後有正式每一個客庄有獨特的資源擬定客家傳統的地域發展藍圖\n\n13\n00:04:24,781 --> 00:04:31,823\n因地制宜的發展策略你曉得有這份研究報告嗎這份報告是從2022年發表到現在已經三年了對於報告當中有提出發展策略科委會是否有拿來實際應用\n\n14\n00:04:51,159 --> 00:04:53,961\n感謝王議員我們的合格議員會針對全台灣研究案都會梳理成章故所以要喊那個部署本議員最要研究案的一個其中一個\n\n15\n00:05:08,968 --> 00:05:10,249\n不是我們委託他而是他們自己想要研究對但是你們講諸嘛講諸他們所以說有來我的意思說有實際應用他們的建議就是有實際應用嘛\n\n16\n00:05:30,629 --> 00:05:34,631\n應該是說因為案件的規矩它的研究報告案的價值它提出的時節提出的狀況包括婚姻狀況時代下的交流等等它都會提出來我們就會參考它的意見成為我們的市政的政策但是我們沒有印象中它可以說佩蕾有單獨一家\n\n17\n00:06:00,265 --> 00:06:01,526\n所以因為我看到說報告裡面台灣科裝地方創生的策略章節中一開始就提到談地方創生不如推動地方韌性的發展\n\n18\n00:06:23,547 --> 00:06:50,021\n並建議將地方的弱勢團體還有在地的中初生單親家庭的成員有勞動力的資深租民等列為優先輔導對象因為這個增增高基率會留下來的族群而且不要忽略了新住民的經濟與穩定的力量你認同嗎\n\n19\n00:06:51,681 --> 00:06:56,844\n我們認同,目前留學在學中,確實是在發展學科文化最主要的年代所以我們認同,留學的年代,特別是新住民的姐妹們在學中歸讀,我們認同\n\n20\n00:07:12,333 --> 00:07:16,936\n是因為我看報告裡面沒有寫到這一塊所以我就覺得說我們現在目前有很多人認為說東南亞移工是因為家境貧窮才會來台灣工作所以忽視了他們的消費力\n\n21\n00:07:32,185 --> 00:07:38,169\n但我想要提醒大家大部分的移工很勤勞他們雖然是薪水比較低但是他們利用空閒的時間就是要節省自己的日常開銷比如說他們就是在自己種菜也能減少支出\n\n22\n00:07:50,896 --> 00:07:53,699\n時間久了也是節省一些費用但是台中激光商圈主委曾經比例我們目前有80萬的東南亞移工還有就是16萬的東南亞新住民還有我們的僑生每人只要每一個月消費3000元\n\n23\n00:08:15,259 --> 00:08:38,105\n一年可以創造的是三百億的商機而且在台灣的工業區火車站周邊很多就是形成移工商圈還有我們的桃園中壢火車站的周邊都有就是東南亞的聚落還有台北中山北路的菲律賓的商圈\n\n24\n00:08:41,270 --> 00:08:59,916\n落幕很久的台中第一广场就是现在的东斜广场多靠这些移工来去护活的所以很多新住民家来台湾我们现在也投入的我们的社区照顾长辈儿少的照顾还有积极\n\n25\n00:09:00,616 --> 00:09:14,675\n加入社區所以願意從事的社會還有社會的服務新住民在生活或經濟上都是相對的穩定這不只我說啦我們羅美玲委員也曾經說過\n\n26\n00:09:16,044 --> 00:09:44,284\n所以我們我看到報告中又沒有這個就是參考或者列入這樣子的新住民的元素所以希望說我們不要忽略就是我們的屏東科技大學的研究這個報告中指出了不要忽略新住民的經濟與穩定力量的理由所以我們想請教我們的主委報告中沒有看到說\n\n27\n00:09:45,120 --> 00:10:14,213\n在未來關於重訪科莊還有科莊地方創生遺跡的計畫裡面是否參考這份研究掌柱的30萬研究報告的建議讓我們新住民就是成為我們這個方案的發展的助力這樣的話是不是就會對我們年輕人返鄉\n\n28\n00:10:15,171 --> 00:10:24,335\n更有幫助有沒有未來有沒有這樣子的納入好因為我們花了預算也花了就是要掌力所以也花了我們的就是我們的課中\n\n29\n00:10:39,073 --> 00:11:05,259\n的一個研究還有就是說把報告提出發展策略那實際的應用才不會白花還有就是說我們也請我們的主委審慎思考給新住民一個助力給地方創生就是我們互租互利還有融合共融共融這樣子的話我覺得是對我們的年輕人返鄉的\n\n30\n00:11:08,423 --> 00:11:18,934\n就是地方創生還有在地的新住民的元素加進來的話我相信這個計畫會更好好感謝媽咪燕\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n17670\t19913\t有請顧主委麻煩議員\n26581\t42843\t好 谷主委你好我們從業務報告中看到重返客庄地方創生移居計畫提供青壯年候選者分兩年\n43763\t54447\t補助每年50萬元也就是說每岸補助的金額是100萬元目的是為了鼓勵青壯年訪鄉或移居客庄的發展輔導在低深耕並且實踐公共服務\n63830\t79405\t我想請教一下過去很多地方創生的項目絕大多數遭遇到的補助金臨晚之後就後繼無力很難再繼續經營下去的狀況目前這個計畫自民國109年首度實行以來\n88314\t108056\t獲得補助的項目續承三年以上的比例有多少還有對於永續經營的問題是否有獲得改善還是遇到哪一些問題做了哪一些改善的措施 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佩蕾有單獨一家\n360265\t361526\t所以因為我看到說報告裡面台灣科裝地方創生的策略章節中一開始就提到談地方創生不如推動地方韌性的發展\n383547\t410021\t並建議將地方的弱勢團體還有在地的中初生單親家庭的成員有勞動力的資深 租民等列為優先輔導對象因為這個增增高基率會留下來的族群而且不要忽略了新住民的經濟與穩定的力量你認同嗎\n411681\t416844\t我們認同,目前留學在學中,確實是在發展學科文化最主要的年代所以我們認同,留學的年代,特別是新住民的姐妹們在學中歸讀,我們認同\n432333\t436936\t是因為我看報告裡面沒有寫到這一塊所以我就覺得說我們現在目前有很多人認為說東南亞移工是因為家境貧窮才會來台灣工作所以忽視了他們的消費力\n452185\t458169\t但我想要提醒大家大部分的移工很勤勞他們雖然是薪水比較低但是他們利用空閒的時間就是要節省自己的日常開銷比如說他們就是在自己種菜也能減少支出\n470896\t473699\t時間久了也是節省一些費用但是台中激光商圈主委曾經比例我們目前有80萬的東南亞移工還有就是16萬的東南亞新住民還有我們的僑生每人只要每一個月消費3000元\n495259\t518105\t一年可以創造的是三百億的商機 而且在台灣的工業區火車站周邊很多就是形成移工商圈 還有我們的桃園中壢火車站的周邊都有就是東南亞的聚落 還有台北中山北路的菲律賓的商圈\n521270\t539916\t落幕很久的台中第一广场就是现在的东斜广场多靠这些移工来去护活的所以很多新住民家来台湾我们现在也投入的我们的社区照顾长辈儿少的照顾还有积极\n540616\t554675\t加入社區所以願意從事的社會還有社會的服務新住民在生活或經濟上都是相對的穩定這不只我說啦我們羅美玲委員也曾經說過\n556044\t584284\t所以我們我看到報告中又沒有這個就是參考或者列入這樣子的新住民的元素所以希望說我們不要忽略就是我們的屏東科技大學的研究這個報告中指出了不要忽略新住民的經濟與穩定力量的理由所以我們想請教我們的主委報告中沒有看到說\n585120\t614213\t在未來關於重訪科莊還有科莊地方創生遺跡的計畫裡面是否參考這份研究掌柱的30萬研究報告的建議讓我們新住民就是成為我們這個方案的發展的助力這樣的話是不是就會對我們年輕人返鄉\n615171\t624335\t更有幫助 有沒有 未來有沒有這樣子的納入好 因為我們花了預算也花了就是要掌力所以也花了我們的就是我們的課中\n639073\t665259\t的一個研究還有就是說把報告提出發展策略那實際的應用才不會白花還有就是說我們也請我們的主委審慎思考給新住民一個助力給地方創生就是我們互租互利還有融合共融共融這樣子的話我覺得是對我們的年輕人返鄉的\n668423\t678934\t就是地方創生還有在地的新住民的元素加進來的話我相信這個計畫會更好好 感謝媽咪燕\n","txt":"有請顧主委麻煩議員\n好 谷主委你好我們從業務報告中看到重返客庄地方創生移居計畫提供青壯年候選者分兩年\n補助每年50萬元也就是說每岸補助的金額是100萬元目的是為了鼓勵青壯年訪鄉或移居客庄的發展輔導在低深耕並且實踐公共服務\n我想請教一下過去很多地方創生的項目絕大多數遭遇到的補助金臨晚之後就後繼無力很難再繼續經營下去的狀況目前這個計畫自民國109年首度實行以來\n獲得補助的項目續承三年以上的比例有多少還有對於永續經營的問題是否有獲得改善還是遇到哪一些問題做了哪一些改善的措施 請教一下\n感謝麥委員,1909年,連鎖有兩屆、兩年,在省城抵達部署的校長留在地方的,超過九層,留在地方。所以當然有一層的人沒辦法留下來,可能有各種原因。\n所以在我們基督徒之間 他們要選擇一項好過的 親和的另外在地方的學生 他們可以互相提出 成為一個支持內容 一個名錄他們可以互相提出 再來跟學生的互動都很平凡所以他們的部分 我知道\n因為這樣正面的好處 所以在今年117年我們重新再次的計劃再提出來本來要展現130 但是後來因為經過委員會的討論評選選出473 就因為有特朗普委員講的暫時\n因為報告中沒有看到你就寫沒有說九成或者是他們的成功率有哪一些比如說他成功的是有哪一些留下哪一些\n所以说你有这样子的一份资料可以提供给我吗所以我可以就是要一一的去给他们拜访因为有这样的成功因为在地创生就是刚才说的很多就是中断所以说我们客家委员会这边可以做的那么好\n給我一份資料好不好好沒問題好再來呢就是我們查到就是科委會在109年曾經獎助了30萬給屏東科技大學科家產業研究所鄭順發教授的團隊\n進行了一份地方火花中的客庄創生從收縮城市理論探究傳統客庄再生的困局與策略的研究報告最後有正式每一個客庄有獨特的資源擬定客家傳統的地域發展藍圖\n因地制宜的發展策略 你曉得有這份研究報告嗎這份報告是從2022年發表到現在已經三年了對於報告當中有提出發展策略科委會是否有拿來實際應用\n感謝王議員 我們的合格議員會針對全台灣研究案都會梳理成章 故所以要喊那個部署本議員最要研究案的一個其中一個\n不是我們委託他 而是他們自己想要研究對 但是你們講諸嘛 講諸他們所以說有來 我的意思說有實際應用他們的建議就是有實際應用嘛\n應該是說 因為案件的規矩它的研究報告案的價值 它提出的時節提出的狀況 包括婚姻狀況 時代下的交流等等它都會提出來 我們就會參考它的意見成為我們的市政的政策但是我們沒有印象中 它可以說 佩蕾有單獨一家\n所以因為我看到說報告裡面台灣科裝地方創生的策略章節中一開始就提到談地方創生不如推動地方韌性的發展\n並建議將地方的弱勢團體還有在地的中初生單親家庭的成員有勞動力的資深 租民等列為優先輔導對象因為這個增增高基率會留下來的族群而且不要忽略了新住民的經濟與穩定的力量你認同嗎\n我們認同,目前留學在學中,確實是在發展學科文化最主要的年代所以我們認同,留學的年代,特別是新住民的姐妹們在學中歸讀,我們認同\n是因為我看報告裡面沒有寫到這一塊所以我就覺得說我們現在目前有很多人認為說東南亞移工是因為家境貧窮才會來台灣工作所以忽視了他們的消費力\n但我想要提醒大家大部分的移工很勤勞他們雖然是薪水比較低但是他們利用空閒的時間就是要節省自己的日常開銷比如說他們就是在自己種菜也能減少支出\n時間久了也是節省一些費用但是台中激光商圈主委曾經比例我們目前有80萬的東南亞移工還有就是16萬的東南亞新住民還有我們的僑生每人只要每一個月消費3000元\n一年可以創造的是三百億的商機 而且在台灣的工業區火車站周邊很多就是形成移工商圈 還有我們的桃園中壢火車站的周邊都有就是東南亞的聚落 還有台北中山北路的菲律賓的商圈\n落幕很久的台中第一广场就是现在的东斜广场多靠这些移工来去护活的所以很多新住民家来台湾我们现在也投入的我们的社区照顾长辈儿少的照顾还有积极\n加入社區所以願意從事的社會還有社會的服務新住民在生活或經濟上都是相對的穩定這不只我說啦我們羅美玲委員也曾經說過\n所以我們我看到報告中又沒有這個就是參考或者列入這樣子的新住民的元素所以希望說我們不要忽略就是我們的屏東科技大學的研究這個報告中指出了不要忽略新住民的經濟與穩定力量的理由所以我們想請教我們的主委報告中沒有看到說\n在未來關於重訪科莊還有科莊地方創生遺跡的計畫裡面是否參考這份研究掌柱的30萬研究報告的建議讓我們新住民就是成為我們這個方案的發展的助力這樣的話是不是就會對我們年輕人返鄉\n更有幫助 有沒有 未來有沒有這樣子的納入好 因為我們花了預算也花了就是要掌力所以也花了我們的就是我們的課中\n的一個研究還有就是說把報告提出發展策略那實際的應用才不會白花還有就是說我們也請我們的主委審慎思考給新住民一個助力給地方創生就是我們互租互利還有融合共融共融這樣子的話我覺得是對我們的年輕人返鄉的\n就是地方創生還有在地的新住民的元素加進來的話我相信這個計畫會更好好 感謝媽咪燕\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:17.670 --> 00:19.913\n有請顧主委麻煩議員\n\n00:26.581 --> 00:42.843\n好谷主委你好我們從業務報告中看到重返客庄地方創生移居計畫提供青壯年候選者分兩年\n\n00:43.763 --> 00:54.447\n補助每年50萬元也就是說每岸補助的金額是100萬元目的是為了鼓勵青壯年訪鄉或移居客庄的發展輔導在低深耕並且實踐公共服務\n\n01:03.830 --> 01:19.405\n我想請教一下過去很多地方創生的項目絕大多數遭遇到的補助金臨晚之後就後繼無力很難再繼續經營下去的狀況目前這個計畫自民國109年首度實行以來\n\n01:28.314 --> 01:48.056\n獲得補助的項目續承三年以上的比例有多少還有對於永續經營的問題是否有獲得改善還是遇到哪一些問題做了哪一些改善的措施請教一下\n\n01:48.827 --> 01:51.870\n感謝麥委員,1909年,連鎖有兩屆、兩年,在省城抵達部署的校長留在地方的,超過九層,留在地方。所以當然有一層的人沒辦法留下來,可能有各種原因。\n\n02:11.510 --> 02:13.671\n所以在我們基督徒之間他們要選擇一項好過的親和的另外在地方的學生他們可以互相提出成為一個支持內容一個名錄他們可以互相提出再來跟學生的互動都很平凡所以他們的部分我知道\n\n02:33.564 --> 02:37.448\n因為這樣正面的好處所以在今年117年我們重新再次的計劃再提出來本來要展現130但是後來因為經過委員會的討論評選選出473就因為有特朗普委員講的暫時\n\n02:55.507 --> 02:57.029\n因為報告中沒有看到你就寫沒有說九成或者是他們的成功率有哪一些比如說他成功的是有哪一些留下哪一些\n\n03:17.492 --> 03:34.402\n所以说你有这样子的一份资料可以提供给我吗所以我可以就是要一一的去给他们拜访因为有这样的成功因为在地创生就是刚才说的很多就是中断所以说我们客家委员会这边可以做的那么好\n\n03:35.686 --> 03:41.331\n給我一份資料好不好好沒問題好再來呢就是我們查到就是科委會在109年曾經獎助了30萬給屏東科技大學科家產業研究所鄭順發教授的團隊\n\n03:55.122 --> 04:02.406\n進行了一份地方火花中的客庄創生從收縮城市理論探究傳統客庄再生的困局與策略的研究報告最後有正式每一個客庄有獨特的資源擬定客家傳統的地域發展藍圖\n\n04:24.781 --> 04:31.823\n因地制宜的發展策略你曉得有這份研究報告嗎這份報告是從2022年發表到現在已經三年了對於報告當中有提出發展策略科委會是否有拿來實際應用\n\n04:51.159 --> 04:53.961\n感謝王議員我們的合格議員會針對全台灣研究案都會梳理成章故所以要喊那個部署本議員最要研究案的一個其中一個\n\n05:08.968 --> 05:10.249\n不是我們委託他而是他們自己想要研究對但是你們講諸嘛講諸他們所以說有來我的意思說有實際應用他們的建議就是有實際應用嘛\n\n05:30.629 --> 05:34.631\n應該是說因為案件的規矩它的研究報告案的價值它提出的時節提出的狀況包括婚姻狀況時代下的交流等等它都會提出來我們就會參考它的意見成為我們的市政的政策但是我們沒有印象中它可以說佩蕾有單獨一家\n\n06:00.265 --> 06:01.526\n所以因為我看到說報告裡面台灣科裝地方創生的策略章節中一開始就提到談地方創生不如推動地方韌性的發展\n\n06:23.547 --> 06:50.021\n並建議將地方的弱勢團體還有在地的中初生單親家庭的成員有勞動力的資深租民等列為優先輔導對象因為這個增增高基率會留下來的族群而且不要忽略了新住民的經濟與穩定的力量你認同嗎\n\n06:51.681 --> 06:56.844\n我們認同,目前留學在學中,確實是在發展學科文化最主要的年代所以我們認同,留學的年代,特別是新住民的姐妹們在學中歸讀,我們認同\n\n07:12.333 --> 07:16.936\n是因為我看報告裡面沒有寫到這一塊所以我就覺得說我們現在目前有很多人認為說東南亞移工是因為家境貧窮才會來台灣工作所以忽視了他們的消費力\n\n07:32.185 --> 07:38.169\n但我想要提醒大家大部分的移工很勤勞他們雖然是薪水比較低但是他們利用空閒的時間就是要節省自己的日常開銷比如說他們就是在自己種菜也能減少支出\n\n07:50.896 --> 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