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00:00:27,679\n好謝謝昭緯請陳部長我們請陳部長部長先請教一下現在台美的關稅還在談判但是現在大家當然也會擔心的就是對於我們的農業的一些影響那我先問一下稻米的部分會不會現在談判中\n\n2\n00:00:28,683 --> 00:00:53,073\n因為現在在談判中所以很多細節不便在這邊說明而且它還有不確定性因為美國現在的處理方式我想你們看媒體都知道但是農業部本身一定是在堅守我們的糧食安全還有我們產業永續穩定另外確保農民收益這三個原則那稻米是糧食安全一個非常重要的非常重要的一環所以我們以我們的立場這個我們應該會盡力來守護這一塊\n\n3\n00:00:56,514 --> 00:01:25,957\n在这个部分进一来守住稻米这一块好那鸡肉的部分其实现在鸡肉的美国进来的量也不少那如果降下来的话有可能会让我们的自给率降到五成甚至更低我想鸡肉的部分基本上我们现在美国进来的都是百分之百都是美国进来的大概百分之三十六左右然后鸡肉本身它有它特定的品规到不同的通路市场那同样的就是以我们国内使用鸡肉的这个数量跟稻米差不多了\n\n4\n00:01:26,877 --> 00:01:54,839\n這個四十幾公斤左右所以相對的我們也是把它認定是在糧食安全產業的一環很重要的一環我們會持續的所以雞肉這塊也會努力來守住啦努力來爭取努力來守住啦好謝謝那豬肉跟牛肉的部分呢特別是在一些非關稅的貿易障礙像標示的部分這個大概美國很在意啦這個我們會那個標示的部分也是衛福部的部分那我們是負責國內的產業所以我剛才說的任何的品項我剛才說的我們會分三類一類就是說\n\n5\n00:01:56,089 --> 00:02:13,260\n因為我是覺得零關稅並不可怕如果零關稅對我們產業有幫助的對我們的成本降低有幫助的那這個部分是一個區塊另外一個區塊是其實國內的產業本身就相當穩定那國外進口的部分進來了以後它可能是不同的進口國之間的替代\n\n6\n00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:39,866\n那相對的也比較好處理那另外一個區塊不可否認的一定有一些產業可能會受到一些影響但是這些影響我們都有做評估然後相關的可能的支持的產業支持的措施也會出來所以這個如果豬肉跟牛肉產生了衝擊的時候那我們會給予協助我想我們特別條例特別預算給予協助現在的談判還有非常高的不確定性那這些等所有的關稅\n\n7\n00:02:40,746 --> 00:03:09,307\n真正的完全確認了以後那我們相關的這些全部談完了之後哪些受到影響我們就用我們政府的資源給予協助讓他們渡過這波難關跟我們報告其實我們所有的品項我們都因為現在很多不確定性所以每個品項它的產業的動態產業的可能的衝擊我們每個品項都有做分析那有一些分析是可能不需要的那有一些可能是需要的我們會再來調整好我們也期待農業部持續然後一方面確保就剛剛\n\n8\n00:03:10,207 --> 00:03:34,998\n部長講那幾個原則下來確保我們農民的一些權益當然也給予他們更多的支持跟照顧好謝謝再要請教一下吳三頭水庫這件事情其實是被攻擊得很厲害其實早上有其他委員關照這個是清水嘛對不對清水來清洗沒有任何的清潔劑的部分這是事實嗎我跟委員報告就是在相關的合約規定整個光電一定要用清水洗\n\n9\n00:03:35,618 --> 00:03:56,493\n那我們在烏山酒水庫裡面檢測到的確有檢測到一些非常微量的這些硬粒子活性介面劑那外界有在質疑這個硬粒子活性介面劑這些微量的是由清潔劑造成的我只是舉一個例子如果要造成微量的0.07這樣子的一個量的時候大概要將近到\n\n10\n00:03:57,873 --> 00:04:18,749\n0.03就要它12噸12噸的清潔劑才有可能造成所以那等於是有點惡意侵盜才會有的才有可能目前沒有任何的證據有這樣的狀況在自然界包括動植物的這些屍體腐敗以後有機的這些分解的過程中也會產生所以我們認為它是一個背景值最重要就是什麼\n\n11\n00:04:19,329 --> 00:04:45,657\n它遠低於我們的灌溉水質的標準灌溉水質標準是5毫克它只有0.03毫克那也遠低於我們的實用標準實用標準是0.5毫克所以這個我相信要請民眾來安心但是後續我們會更精進的把關就是未來會讓我們民眾消除疑慮就是任何要清洗的時候我們會做裝備檢查就是它不准帶不該帶的這些東西來確保\n\n12\n00:04:46,897 --> 00:05:13,063\n是所以是用清水清洗絕對不可以用清潔劑而這樣的量而這樣的看起來它也是一個背景值啦這個背景值不管是它是藻類或者是帶洩物或者是動植物的甚至於有機的分解它就是個背景值而且它遠低於我們的安全的標準所以我覺得要用科學的問題來面對這些問題如果不斷地用一些訊息去影響的話這個很容易人心惶惶我覺得這樣的\n\n13\n00:05:14,523 --> 00:05:37,456\n事實的狀態還是要麻煩衛福部這個未來只會越來越多啦這樣的造謠造假抹黑東西越來越多我希望未來的農業部在第一時間齁幾乎等到了一段時間才出來我希望未來這個能夠在一天最晚兩天內一定要馬上出來第一時間止住這樣的惡意的一些訊息的時候才能讓大家感覺到政府很清楚的掌握狀況而且在確保大家的安全\n\n14\n00:05:37,896 --> 00:06:04,404\n我跟委員報告我們也會在第一時間發這個但是我也期待就是說我們大家彼此一起努力不要用誤導的方式去讓民眾覺得說他有毒這些東西我們都期待但是有時候很難因為要故意去攻擊你傷害你造謠你的人其實就是會出現那我們能做的就是我們必須要站在捍衛的第一線因為我們要確保所有的農民確保所有人民的一些安全部分必須要第一時間把訊息正確的出來這樣才能夠堵住這些\n\n15\n00:06:06,825 --> 00:06:26,058\n謠言的一個轉達這樣才能確保整個大家對執政的信心對台灣的信心不然不斷的有很多這些訊息都會造成人民對執政的一個信心的一個影響好不好請部長未來這些事情要再更快一點再要請教一下前鎮漁港的部分也謝謝農業部漁業署的大力支持\n\n16\n00:06:26,718 --> 00:06:51,408\n那現在在11月8號能夠取得使用執照多功能水產運銷中心但是我之前也講過很多次它的招商是一件辛苦的事情還是要請部長要大力的來協助來推動招商的工作特別是要去找到好的廠商因為廠商一定會給你很多的意見那我希望那些條件讓好的廠商能夠進來好的廠商進來之後才能夠達到好的一些效益部長這個是不是請你再說明一下\n\n17\n00:06:53,509 --> 00:07:13,003\n這個事情我也了解他們從開始自己要招租的方式已經流標了然後現在OT的方式也流標了兩次我覺得要改變另外一個方式我要成立一個專案小組可以導入一些對這個招商有經驗的這些專家進來一起討論啊而不是純粹用行政程序有沒有\n\n18\n00:07:15,985 --> 00:07:43,479\n更改那個標案的內容然後去招標我非常認同這個啦齁你要用企業界的角度跟精神他為什麼願意進來來投資來投標那他遇到的阻力跟他遇到的擔憂的問題什麼那引他們的意見進來參考之後然後我們來提出一個更好的方案出來這樣才能夠讓這樣一個與市場的一個招商能夠達到一個很好的效益不然純正從行政程序齁再放個十次也不會有人來啦所以我覺得要成立一個專案小組齁\n\n19\n00:07:44,884 --> 00:08:10,634\n邀請外面有經驗的這個請部長可能要用民間企業的思考的精神去帶動好不好然後來思考我會請約署這邊來處理那務必要把好的優秀廠商找進來那另外還有一個就是說他的交通也是一個問題我還是希望部長能夠持續的支持捷運的黃線延伸進到前鎮雲港如果你能夠延伸進來的話那未來的部分就會有人願意做更長遠的投資\n\n20\n00:08:11,294 --> 00:08:37,763\n他看得到未來的效益前初期還沒新建完成的時候當然捷運進不來現在用接駁的方式對初期用接駁但是長遠的說捷運如果能夠一線進來的話那對於投資的廠商來說他長遠看得到效益他就會更勇於敢投資我希望這部分跟部長跟交通部那邊能夠再做溝通好不好來支持捷運黃線延伸進到前鎮雲港好不好部長支持啦對我一定支持啦好謝謝部長謝謝賴瑞榮委員資訊\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4250\t27679\t好 謝謝昭緯 請陳部長我們請陳部長部長 先請教一下現在台美的關稅還在談判但是現在大家當然也會擔心的就是對於我們的農業的一些影響那我先問一下 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謝謝那豬肉跟牛肉的部分呢特別是在一些非關稅的貿易障礙像標示的部分這個大概美國很在意啦這個我們會那個標示的部分也是衛福部的部分那我們是負責國內的產業所以我剛才說的任何的品項我剛才說的我們會分三類一類就是說\n116089\t133260\t因為我是覺得零關稅並不可怕如果零關稅對我們產業有幫助的對我們的成本降低有幫助的那這個部分是一個區塊另外一個區塊是其實國內的產業本身就相當穩定那國外進口的部分進來了以後它可能是不同的進口國之間的替代\n133880\t159866\t那相對的也比較好處理那另外一個區塊不可否認的一定有一些產業可能會受到一些影響但是這些影響我們都有做評估然後相關的可能的支持的產業支持的措施也會出來所以這個如果豬肉跟牛肉產生了衝擊的時候那我們會給予協助我想我們特別條例特別預算給予協助現在的談判還有非常高的不確定性那這些等所有的關稅\n160746\t189307\t真正的完全確認了以後那我們相關的這些全部談完了之後哪些受到影響我們就用我們政府的資源給予協助讓他們渡過這波難關跟我們報告其實我們所有的品項我們都因為現在很多不確定性所以每個品項它的產業的動態產業的可能的衝擊我們每個品項都有做分析那有一些分析是可能不需要的那有一些可能是需要的我們會再來調整好我們也期待農業部持續然後一方面確保就剛剛\n190207\t214998\t部長講那幾個原則下來確保我們農民的一些權益當然也給予他們更多的支持跟照顧好 謝謝再要請教一下吳三頭水庫這件事情其實是被攻擊得很厲害其實早上有其他委員關照這個是清水嘛對不對清水來清洗沒有任何的清潔劑的部分這是事實嗎我跟委員報告就是在相關的合約規定整個光電一定要用清水洗\n215618\t236493\t那我們在烏山酒水庫裡面檢測到的確有檢測到一些非常微量的這些硬粒子活性介面劑那外界有在質疑這個硬粒子活性介面劑這些微量的是由清潔劑造成的我只是舉一個例子如果要造成微量的0.07這樣子的一個量的時候大概要將近到\n237873\t258749\t0.03就要它12噸12噸的清潔劑才有可能造成所以那等於是有點惡意侵盜才會有的才有可能目前沒有任何的證據有這樣的狀況在自然界包括動植物的這些屍體腐敗以後有機的這些分解的過程中也會產生所以我們認為它是一個背景值最重要就是什麼\n259329\t285657\t它遠低於我們的灌溉水質的標準灌溉水質標準是5毫克它只有0.03毫克那也遠低於我們的實用標準實用標準是0.5毫克所以這個我相信要請民眾來安心但是後續我們會更精進的把關就是未來會讓我們民眾消除疑慮就是任何要清洗的時候我們會做裝備檢查就是它不准帶不該帶的這些東西來確保\n286897\t313063\t是 所以是用清水清洗絕對不可以用清潔劑而這樣的量而這樣的看起來它也是一個背景值啦這個背景值不管是它是藻類或者是帶洩物或者是動植物的甚至於有機的分解它就是個背景值而且它遠低於我們的安全的標準所以我覺得要用科學的問題來面對這些問題如果不斷地用一些訊息去影響的話這個很容易人心惶惶我覺得這樣的\n314523\t337456\t事實的狀態還是要麻煩衛福部這個未來只會越來越多啦這樣的造謠造假抹黑東西越來越多我希望未來的農業部在第一時間齁幾乎等到了一段時間才出來我希望未來這個能夠在一天最晚兩天內一定要馬上出來第一時間止住這樣的惡意的一些訊息的時候才能讓大家感覺到政府很清楚的掌握狀況而且在確保大家的安全\n337896\t364404\t我跟委員報告我們也會在第一時間發這個但是我也期待就是說我們大家彼此一起努力不要用誤導的方式去讓民眾覺得說他有毒這些東西我們都期待但是有時候很難因為要故意去攻擊你傷害你 造謠你的人其實就是會出現那我們能做的就是我們必須要站在捍衛的第一線因為我們要確保所有的農民確保所有人民的一些安全部分必須要第一時間把訊息正確的出來這樣才能夠堵住這些\n366825\t386058\t謠言的一個轉達這樣才能確保整個大家對執政的信心對台灣的信心不然不斷的有很多這些訊息都會造成人民對執政的一個信心的一個影響好不好請部長未來這些事情要再更快一點再要請教一下 前鎮漁港的部分也謝謝農業部漁業署的大力支持\n386718\t411408\t那現在在11月8號能夠取得使用執照多功能水產 運銷中心但是我之前也講過很多次它的招商是一件辛苦的事情還是要請部長要大力的來協助來推動招商的工作特別是要去找到好的廠商因為廠商一定會給你很多的意見那我希望那些條件讓好的廠商能夠進來好的廠商進來之後才能夠達到好的一些效益部長 這個是不是請你再說明一下\n413509\t433003\t這個事情我也了解他們從開始自己要招租的方式已經流標了然後現在OT的方式也流標了兩次我覺得要改變另外一個方式我要成立一個專案小組可以導入一些對這個招商有經驗的這些專家進來一起討論啊而不是純粹用行政程序有沒有\n435985\t463479\t更改那個標案的內容然後去招標我非常認同這個啦齁你要用企業界的角度跟精神他為什麼願意進來來投資來投標那他遇到的阻力跟他遇到的擔憂的問題什麼那引他們的意見進來參考之後然後我們來提出一個更好的方案出來這樣才能夠讓這樣一個與市場的一個招商能夠達到一個很好的效益不然純正從行政程序齁再放個十次也不會有人來啦所以我覺得要成立一個專案小組齁\n464884\t490634\t邀請外面有經驗的 這個請部長可能要用民間企業的思考的精神去帶動好不好 然後來思考我會請約署這邊來處理那務必要把好的優秀廠商找進來那另外還有一個就是說他的交通也是一個問題我還是希望部長能夠持續的支持捷運的黃線延伸進到前鎮雲港如果你能夠延伸進來的話那未來的部分就會有人願意做更長遠的投資\n491294\t517763\t他看得到未來的效益前初期還沒新建完成的時候當然捷運進不來現在用接駁的方式對 初期用接駁但是長遠的說捷運如果能夠一線進來的話那對於投資的廠商來說他長遠看得到效益他就會更勇於敢投資我希望這部分跟部長跟交通部那邊能夠再做溝通好不好來支持捷運黃線延伸進到前鎮雲港好不好部長支持啦對 我一定支持啦好 謝謝部長謝謝賴瑞榮委員資訊\n","txt":"好 謝謝昭緯 請陳部長我們請陳部長部長 先請教一下現在台美的關稅還在談判但是現在大家當然也會擔心的就是對於我們的農業的一些影響那我先問一下 稻米的部分會不會現在談判中\n因為現在在談判中所以很多細節不便在這邊說明而且它還有不確定性因為美國現在的處理方式我想你們看媒體都知道但是農業部本身一定是在堅守我們的糧食安全還有我們產業永續穩定另外確保農民收益這三個原則那稻米是糧食安全一個非常重要的非常重要的一環所以我們以我們的立場這個我們應該會盡力來守護這一塊\n在这个部分进一来守住稻米这一块好那鸡肉的部分其实现在鸡肉的美国进来的量也不少那如果降下来的话有可能会让我们的自给率降到五成甚至更低我想鸡肉的部分基本上我们现在美国进来的都是百分之百都是美国进来的大概百分之三十六左右然后鸡肉本身它有它特定的品规到不同的通路市场那同样的就是以我们国内使用鸡肉的这个数量跟稻米差不多了\n這個四十幾公斤左右所以相對的我們也是把它認定是在糧食安全產業的一環很重要的一環我們會持續的所以雞肉這塊也會努力來守住啦努力來爭取 努力來守住啦好 謝謝那豬肉跟牛肉的部分呢特別是在一些非關稅的貿易障礙像標示的部分這個大概美國很在意啦這個我們會那個標示的部分也是衛福部的部分那我們是負責國內的產業所以我剛才說的任何的品項我剛才說的我們會分三類一類就是說\n因為我是覺得零關稅並不可怕如果零關稅對我們產業有幫助的對我們的成本降低有幫助的那這個部分是一個區塊另外一個區塊是其實國內的產業本身就相當穩定那國外進口的部分進來了以後它可能是不同的進口國之間的替代\n那相對的也比較好處理那另外一個區塊不可否認的一定有一些產業可能會受到一些影響但是這些影響我們都有做評估然後相關的可能的支持的產業支持的措施也會出來所以這個如果豬肉跟牛肉產生了衝擊的時候那我們會給予協助我想我們特別條例特別預算給予協助現在的談判還有非常高的不確定性那這些等所有的關稅\n真正的完全確認了以後那我們相關的這些全部談完了之後哪些受到影響我們就用我們政府的資源給予協助讓他們渡過這波難關跟我們報告其實我們所有的品項我們都因為現在很多不確定性所以每個品項它的產業的動態產業的可能的衝擊我們每個品項都有做分析那有一些分析是可能不需要的那有一些可能是需要的我們會再來調整好我們也期待農業部持續然後一方面確保就剛剛\n部長講那幾個原則下來確保我們農民的一些權益當然也給予他們更多的支持跟照顧好 謝謝再要請教一下吳三頭水庫這件事情其實是被攻擊得很厲害其實早上有其他委員關照這個是清水嘛對不對清水來清洗沒有任何的清潔劑的部分這是事實嗎我跟委員報告就是在相關的合約規定整個光電一定要用清水洗\n那我們在烏山酒水庫裡面檢測到的確有檢測到一些非常微量的這些硬粒子活性介面劑那外界有在質疑這個硬粒子活性介面劑這些微量的是由清潔劑造成的我只是舉一個例子如果要造成微量的0.07這樣子的一個量的時候大概要將近到\n0.03就要它12噸12噸的清潔劑才有可能造成所以那等於是有點惡意侵盜才會有的才有可能目前沒有任何的證據有這樣的狀況在自然界包括動植物的這些屍體腐敗以後有機的這些分解的過程中也會產生所以我們認為它是一個背景值最重要就是什麼\n它遠低於我們的灌溉水質的標準灌溉水質標準是5毫克它只有0.03毫克那也遠低於我們的實用標準實用標準是0.5毫克所以這個我相信要請民眾來安心但是後續我們會更精進的把關就是未來會讓我們民眾消除疑慮就是任何要清洗的時候我們會做裝備檢查就是它不准帶不該帶的這些東西來確保\n是 所以是用清水清洗絕對不可以用清潔劑而這樣的量而這樣的看起來它也是一個背景值啦這個背景值不管是它是藻類或者是帶洩物或者是動植物的甚至於有機的分解它就是個背景值而且它遠低於我們的安全的標準所以我覺得要用科學的問題來面對這些問題如果不斷地用一些訊息去影響的話這個很容易人心惶惶我覺得這樣的\n事實的狀態還是要麻煩衛福部這個未來只會越來越多啦這樣的造謠造假抹黑東西越來越多我希望未來的農業部在第一時間齁幾乎等到了一段時間才出來我希望未來這個能夠在一天最晚兩天內一定要馬上出來第一時間止住這樣的惡意的一些訊息的時候才能讓大家感覺到政府很清楚的掌握狀況而且在確保大家的安全\n我跟委員報告我們也會在第一時間發這個但是我也期待就是說我們大家彼此一起努力不要用誤導的方式去讓民眾覺得說他有毒這些東西我們都期待但是有時候很難因為要故意去攻擊你傷害你 造謠你的人其實就是會出現那我們能做的就是我們必須要站在捍衛的第一線因為我們要確保所有的農民確保所有人民的一些安全部分必須要第一時間把訊息正確的出來這樣才能夠堵住這些\n謠言的一個轉達這樣才能確保整個大家對執政的信心對台灣的信心不然不斷的有很多這些訊息都會造成人民對執政的一個信心的一個影響好不好請部長未來這些事情要再更快一點再要請教一下 前鎮漁港的部分也謝謝農業部漁業署的大力支持\n那現在在11月8號能夠取得使用執照多功能水產 運銷中心但是我之前也講過很多次它的招商是一件辛苦的事情還是要請部長要大力的來協助來推動招商的工作特別是要去找到好的廠商因為廠商一定會給你很多的意見那我希望那些條件讓好的廠商能夠進來好的廠商進來之後才能夠達到好的一些效益部長 這個是不是請你再說明一下\n這個事情我也了解他們從開始自己要招租的方式已經流標了然後現在OT的方式也流標了兩次我覺得要改變另外一個方式我要成立一個專案小組可以導入一些對這個招商有經驗的這些專家進來一起討論啊而不是純粹用行政程序有沒有\n更改那個標案的內容然後去招標我非常認同這個啦齁你要用企業界的角度跟精神他為什麼願意進來來投資來投標那他遇到的阻力跟他遇到的擔憂的問題什麼那引他們的意見進來參考之後然後我們來提出一個更好的方案出來這樣才能夠讓這樣一個與市場的一個招商能夠達到一個很好的效益不然純正從行政程序齁再放個十次也不會有人來啦所以我覺得要成立一個專案小組齁\n邀請外面有經驗的 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謝謝再要請教一下吳三頭水庫這件事情其實是被攻擊得很厲害其實早上有其他委員關照這個是清水嘛對不對清水來清洗沒有任何的清潔劑的部分這是事實嗎我跟委員報告就是在相關的合約規定整個光電一定要用清水洗"},{"start":215.618,"end":236.493,"text":"那我們在烏山酒水庫裡面檢測到的確有檢測到一些非常微量的這些硬粒子活性介面劑那外界有在質疑這個硬粒子活性介面劑這些微量的是由清潔劑造成的我只是舉一個例子如果要造成微量的0.07這樣子的一個量的時候大概要將近到"},{"start":237.873,"end":258.749,"text":"0.03就要它12噸12噸的清潔劑才有可能造成所以那等於是有點惡意侵盜才會有的才有可能目前沒有任何的證據有這樣的狀況在自然界包括動植物的這些屍體腐敗以後有機的這些分解的過程中也會產生所以我們認為它是一個背景值最重要就是什麼"},{"start":259.329,"end":285.657,"text":"它遠低於我們的灌溉水質的標準灌溉水質標準是5毫克它只有0.03毫克那也遠低於我們的實用標準實用標準是0.5毫克所以這個我相信要請民眾來安心但是後續我們會更精進的把關就是未來會讓我們民眾消除疑慮就是任何要清洗的時候我們會做裝備檢查就是它不准帶不該帶的這些東西來確保"},{"start":286.897,"end":313.063,"text":"是 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