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00:02:00,227\n還完全不夠況且只有中華電信是在第一天到的其他台客大跟演傳都是在一個禮拜以後就是一直罵一直罵我相信你們也接到很多我們辦公室的一個電話聽說中華電信在這一次這一次那個災後業績變好了\n\n6\n00:02:04,568 --> 00:02:32,662\n他真正的有真的是把他自己的社會責任擺在第一線當然中華電信他是不是有把就是說很多賺來的錢放到了一個投資上面我覺得你們對三大電信公司其實非常非常的照顧那是不是要有一個比較明確的一個要求你看補助了這麼多兩億兩千五百萬強化偏鄉地區的一個網路的一個韌性\n\n7\n00:02:34,332 --> 00:02:58,298\n好補助了三家業者增加三台各增加三台這一台大概多少錢大概一千多萬範圍大概一千多萬一千多萬一千一到一千五那目前的進度如何那你們是不是有跨部會跨部會就是說因為我們知道數位部你不一定這個你只可以補助他你沒有辦法管理他\n\n8\n00:02:59,458 --> 00:03:26,025\n那NCC管理他所以就是說我當然是要要求你們源頭不能補助這麼多但我如果說要求源頭不能補助這麼多的時候真的這個重大災難來的時候我又要他表現得非常好這個又沒有道理所以是不是有一套比較好的一個方式當然我們希望逐年編逐年編把它編組可是問題就是說你們怎麼樣去管理他\n\n9\n00:03:26,724 --> 00:03:47,835\n是目前如同委員所說到我們跟NCC的分工我覺得有點太複雜了我希望說在未來能跟NCC我們把這個責任我們把它定義得更分工跟責任把它定得更清楚這個當然是說還牽涉到行政院層級的一些事情那在短期來講的話我們當然是說\n\n10\n00:03:49,896 --> 00:04:11,790\n如同委員講的這次台南的救災我聽說連救災人員手機都沒有訊號所以在救災都發生一些問題所以我們也請我們任事應司就事後做檢討我們發現說基地台之所以會故障會有三種原因第一個是基地台本身倒掉第二個是它那個光纖網路斷掉第三個是電線斷掉沒有電\n\n11\n00:04:13,231 --> 00:04:27,161\n因為嘉義縣嘉義縣導了很多就是他的那個電台那你想想看在我們這個學甲北門將軍尤其是我們北門跟將軍我們的氣功所的同仁他必須要出去了\n\n12\n00:04:28,174 --> 00:04:46,151\n一個小時然後再回到氣功所來這個報告整個災情非常不方便這個實在是讓我們覺得這裡不敢不敢怎麼辦就是從你這邊改善開始一般的一個電線跟通訊的電線都是掛在電線桿上面\n\n13\n00:04:46,952 --> 00:05:04,891\n都是挂在电线杆上面这个电线杆倒了以后你几乎你这一个就是那个通讯就完蛋了就没有办法没有办法就是说去接受到其实如果灾难来的时候你看气候异常这个我们不敢保证说下一次的台风什么时候来\n\n14\n00:05:06,253 --> 00:05:22,628\n那問題就是說在都會區他恐怕他的資源會多可是如果像在我們這個偏鄉有這麼多的一個困難我覺得這個數位部要想出一個更好的一個方式你怎麼樣全面的提升這個基地台的一個抗災的一個能量\n\n15\n00:05:23,488 --> 00:05:49,883\n這個是非常重要的他能夠抵抗那個16級的颱風然後不斷電72個小時還有主幹線地下化我想還有就是災難發生的時候你要整合跨業者的這個災難漫遊這個災難漫遊你看也是我們這個整個丹納斯颱風是在什麼時候才有這個漫遊出來已經都是超過好像是超過了\n\n16\n00:05:50,703 --> 00:06:11,722\n二十幾天喔二十幾天才出來了你們已經被我們我們大家都被罵到不知道該如何去檢討這一個問題所以說部長有沒有一個比較積極的一個方式可以回答本席其實最簡單的方法因為我們發現說那個沒有電這件事情最容易解決只要移動式的\n\n17\n00:06:12,222 --> 00:06:37,281\n那個柴油發電機就可以解決電的問題而且那個基地台故障裡面通常丹麥斯颱風比較特別一般來講最常出現的問題就是沒有電所以而且那個移動式那個柴油發電機是相對來講比較便宜的所以我們這個先會從這個地方來補強對先從這個地方補強那後續的一個就是你們具體的一個方法是不是一個計畫是不是提供給本席是沒問題謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n49\t410\t好 謝謝張偉我們請我們的林部長來 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