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00:03:09,837\n然後兩個禮拜內我想我們來配合這一個然後跟台南市因為西拉亞我想台南那一個部分家裡地區或者附近大概是西拉亞族我想我們來優先來跟台南市政府來討論看相關的課程教材怎麼樣來發展\n\n9\n00:03:11,539 --> 00:03:28,315\n好那再麻煩部長給個書面的報告好不好相關的這些提問好那我想再來還是要來跟您討論今天很多委員都關心的讓基層教師怨聲載道的這個校事會議的爛訴的問題\n\n10\n00:03:30,277 --> 00:03:44,818\n因為根據之前教育部所做的調查其實在去年解聘辦法修正後的一年來校士會議的投訴案量高達1372案那有超過八成的案件都有受理\n\n11\n00:03:45,399 --> 00:03:58,980\n可是經過調查之後的769件中不成立的案件有382件那佔比是49.7將近5成那可是遭到停解聘的也才只有3.3%\n\n12\n00:04:01,383 --> 00:04:22,219\n所以很明顯就說消失會議我們清楚知道他主要用意是用來處理不適任教師的這個停解聘的事宜可是許多教師都反映很多意想不到的投訴案件都進到消失會議去我在今年其實五月的時候開啟者會也有舉一些案例\n\n13\n00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:43,771\n我在這裡就不再贅述那我絕對支持就是你最正確找或者是說真的涉及不適任疑慮的案件我們要盡最大力量來處理可是如果學校花了很多的時間經費去找人找資源來召開校事會議結果卻用在爛訴的案件上\n\n14\n00:04:44,491 --> 00:05:11,645\n那我覺得這個對老師不僅是很大的困擾那行政也沒辦法減量那又犧牲了老師備課跟照顧孩子的時間那我想部長真的有很肯定的跟很友善的表達說要研擬就是對匿名檢舉增加限制那我在教育部在上個禮拜也有召開解聘辦法的研商會議那有提出說要新增受理\n\n15\n00:05:13,246 --> 00:05:41,326\n之前要有個協調機制那我想要請教部長說那學校端這裡他要怎麼來分類說什麼案件是可以先行溝通協調那什麼案子是進入校事會議我的意思是說有時候學校端你若沒有給個指引或給個所謂的SOP那學校端也很難依循部長\n\n16\n00:05:42,486 --> 00:06:10,900\n謝謝委員提醒確實我們在這一次的一個修訂裡邊我們就是希望能夠舉一些實際的案例然後給校長行政團隊有一些依循有一些只是口頭他老師的這個語言上的一時的這一些可能的一個疏漏我們就提醒他或者班級經營就提醒他他就改正有一些可能他在管教方式上需要有一段時間來有專人來協助他都沒有進入到\n\n17\n00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:40,823\n不必要进入到这个校师会议所以我们在这边以后校师会议就只有处理那一个由社会公正人士组成然后由处理不适任教师那一个机会至于属于要教学改善或者沟通或者亲师合作的这一个部分的增能也好或者一些行为上的调整这个就是在学校里边本权者里边来做所以我们大概就是会举例给学校端有SOP\n\n18\n00:06:41,403 --> 00:07:10,664\n好那目前進到校事會議之中會有一個調查小組那現在全部的成員都是外聘那我當然知道其實這個外聘我們那時候也是防堵說這個師師相互嘛而且外聘就是所謂的公正人員而且這些外聘人員都有受訓過那也大部分是學者啦律師等等可是現在有個問題出現就是本來的教師代表跟教養代表其實都是應聘\n\n19\n00:07:11,644 --> 00:07:28,951\n應邀來陳述意見他們就是一個列席的一個情況可是如果說我們調查小組成員如果全部都是外聘那這些也只有列席而已那我看很怕說學校的脈絡跟\n\n20\n00:07:30,211 --> 00:07:59,310\n真正的教學的情況這個調查小組不是很了解我們舉個例來講有時候有個老師他可能平常在學校的表現是非常的不錯可是他可能突然間有一個情緒上的問題或怎麼樣有一些失當的行為可是你這個外聘小組因為他不了解學校這個老師平常的做法所以他可能就意料這個失當的行為\n\n21\n00:08:00,291 --> 00:08:24,803\n做出相對嚴厲的這個處分那對這個老師其實來講不是很公平所以我的意思是說如果有協助調查的教師代表跟家長代表來協助輔助調查的話那是不是會讓這個調查小組的機制更為完備可是前提是這個轉述調查報告一定是這三個外派的外聘的\n\n22\n00:08:25,823 --> 00:08:47,006\n老師跟家長的這個代表就純粹是在輔助調查提供資料那個部長你覺得這樣如何謝謝委員的一個提醒確實我們也考慮到因為以現階段的教師會雖然有教師代表有家長代表都是列席而且常常都是結果定論了以後才去表達意見\n\n23\n00:08:48,067 --> 00:09:01,586\n陳主委員所說的我們能不能把他做到前端他也能夠隨著一起調查一起去了解整個事情的脈絡能夠真正的讓老師能夠他的權益不會受到這個損害\n\n24\n00:09:03,308 --> 00:09:22,998\n我想就是說我們有一定程度的一個有一些疏漏應該刻意適當的一個證明而不是一刀下去就因為而受到一個冤屈或者不當的一些對待我想委員的這個建議是非常有建設性的我想這也是我們在未來我們可以把他納進來一起來來做整個調整這個規劃謝謝\n\n25\n00:09:26,420 --> 00:09:45,342\n再想繼續追問剛剛很多委員關心就是有關於教師法跟教師待遇條例因為老師如果受到停聘解聘或不續聘等等的處分提起救濟後他有回復聘證那我們只能補發他的本薪現在規定是這樣\n\n26\n00:09:46,443 --> 00:10:08,221\n可是教師的心思部長你最清楚除了本性以外還有學術研究費那如果他未受解聘或停聘處分那他用救濟方式恢復了這個病人老師那沒有給他補發這段時間的學術研究費我覺得恐怕不是很公平一定有捏薄心而已\n\n27\n00:10:09,302 --> 00:10:27,242\n所以是不是這個事情也來研究看看讓他如果回復他的教師職位的話是不是就可以補給他所謂的全新謝謝委員的一個提醒確實我們也我想委員的這樣一個建議是很有建設性的我們來努力\n\n28\n00:10:27,994 --> 00:10:54,355\n好好謝謝那再簡單喔在那個30秒剛剛很多人提及就是大家都關心的我想這個是大家都關心就是這個終點費跟導師的職務加給的提升我想中間這個我們很多年都沒有提升然後跟物價指數也都沒有跟得上這個我看這個部長你非常非常清楚所以實際上要請教你就說\n\n29\n00:10:55,276 --> 00:11:03,913\n到底你現在的規劃中這個終點費或者導師費你有沒有想要調啊調幅大約是多少\n\n30\n00:11:04,741 --> 00:11:33,862\n我们关心的跟委员所关心的是一致的然后在教育部内部我们事实上也有一直在讨论那当然在整个中央财政的一个前提下我们怎么样有一个适度的一个去反映物价指数包括老师的一些稳定老师的一些教学的一些必要的一些支持的一个力量凸显老师的教学工作的一个价值这都是我们在努力\n\n31\n00:11:33,882 --> 00:11:42,846\n比如說像現在導師費一個月才三千塊等於一天一百塊一家便當的超過一百塊所以我想這個討論一下調整事實調整好謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝移情委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1240\t11184\t好那現在請林怡瑾委員質詢謝主席有請鄭部長鄭部長請\n20769\t37141\t首先要跟部長探討原住民族教育在各個層面是否可以擴及即將核定的平埔原住民有關平埔原住民的身份法很有可能就在10月底能完成刪讀\n38422\t67179\t那在這個同時身份取得以外的其他的配套政策我想也應該這個同時併進所以我在這裡就是說也要跟這個部長來探討也提醒部長因為我去年過去啦上一個會期其實非常積極參與這個評普原住民族身份法的這個立法討論那在審查會中我也有提醒原民會就是為了維繫評普原住民的文化傳承與原教育\n68079\t94860\t這個非常重要所以以我選區的西拉雅的實驗小學口皮國小的例子來看在主人的積極努力下這個附贈西拉雅的語言跟文化很有成就所以我想請教部長教育部配合國家語言發展法那依照學生選課需求要開設原住民這個族群 族語課程\n96221\t115503\t那什麼時候能完成這個評普原住民這個各族語言的師資跟教材的盤點進而開設課程我這邊要求的不多啦因為一開始其實萬事起頭難可是是否可以現在各族主要的分布地\n116464\t144507\t因為平埔族有聚落的地方確實不多各族的分布地來完成盤點跟開設例如像台南的Siraya跟南投的Kahabu我覺得是不是可以從這邊做起那部長是不是可以給個承諾謝謝我很關心平埔原住民會後我再跟委員報告其實我們平埔原住民族還真的是非常的多\n146055\t170214\t那根據這個沈建德這一個教授的一個研究其實從婚姻的儀式裡邊只要結婚有台帝拜天公不顧坐大 為這都是被補助很多台灣的社群其實都是被補助傳來我們確實也因為因應這個貧苦族所以這裡邊可能有很多都是有對 可是他還是要去登記才會成為貧苦族登記有個依據\n173357\t189837\t然後兩個禮拜內我想我們來配合這一個然後跟台南市因為西拉亞我想台南那一個部分家裡地區或者附近大概是西拉亞族我想我們來優先來跟台南市政府來討論看相關的課程教材怎麼樣來發展\n191539\t208315\t好 那再麻煩部長給個書面的報告好不好 相關的這些提問好 那我想再來還是要來跟您討論今天很多委員都關心的讓基層教師怨聲載道的這個校事會議的爛訴的問題\n210277\t224818\t因為根據之前教育部所做的調查其實在去年解聘辦法修正後的一年來校士會議的投訴案量高達1372案那有超過八成的案件都有受理\n225399\t238980\t可是經過調查之後的769件中不成立的案件有382件那佔比是49.7 將近5成那可是遭到停解聘的也才只有3.3%\n241383\t262219\t所以很明顯就說消失會議我們清楚知道他主要用意是用來處理不適任教師的這個停解聘的事宜可是許多教師都反映很多意想不到的投訴案件都進到消失會議去我在今年其實五月的時候開啟者會也有舉一些案例\n263800\t283771\t我在這裡就不再贅述那我絕對支持就是你最正確找或者是說真的涉及不適任疑慮的案件我們要盡最大力量來處理可是如果學校花了很多的時間 經費去找人 找資源來召開校事會議結果卻用在爛訴的案件上\n284491\t311645\t那我覺得這個對老師不僅是很大的困擾那行政也沒辦法減量那又犧牲了老師備課跟照顧孩子的時間那我想部長真的有很肯定的跟很友善的表達說要研擬就是對匿名檢舉增加限制那我在教育部在上個禮拜也有召開解聘辦法的研商會議那有提出說要新增受理\n313246\t341326\t之前要有個協調機制那我想要請教部長說那學校端這裡他要怎麼來分類說什麼案件是可以先行溝通協調那什麼案子是進入校事會議我的意思是說有時候學校端你若沒有給個指引或給個所謂的SOP那學校端也很難依循 部長\n342486\t370900\t謝謝委員提醒確實我們在這一次的一個修訂裡邊我們就是希望能夠舉一些實際的案例然後給校長行政團隊有一些依循有一些只是口頭他老師的這個語言上的一時的這一些可能的一個疏漏我們就提醒他或者班級經營就提醒他他就改正有一些可能他在管教方式上需要有一段時間來有專人來協助他都沒有進入到\n371960\t400823\t不必要进入到这个校师会议所以我们在这边以后校师会议就只有处理那一个由社会公正人士组成然后由处理不适任教师那一个机会至于属于要教学改善或者沟通或者亲师合作的这一个部分的增能也好或者一些行为上的调整这个就是在学校里边本权者里边来做所以我们大概就是会举例给学校端有SOP\n401403\t430664\t好 那目前進到校事會議之中會有一個調查小組那現在全部的成員都是外聘那我當然知道其實這個外聘我們那時候也是防堵說這個師師相互嘛而且外聘就是所謂的公正人員而且這些外聘人員都有受訓過那也大部分是學者啦 律師等等可是現在有個問題出現就是本來的教師代表跟教養代表其實都是應聘\n431644\t448951\t應邀來陳述意見他們就是一個列席的一個情況可是如果說我們調查小組成員如果全部都是外聘那這些也只有列席而已那我看很怕說學校的脈絡跟\n450211\t479310\t真正的教學的情況這個調查小組不是很了解我們舉個例來講有時候有個老師他可能平常在學校的表現是非常的不錯可是他可能突然間有一個情緒上的問題或怎麼樣有一些失當的行為可是你這個外聘小組因為他不了解學校這個老師平常的做法所以他可能就意料這個失當的行為\n480291\t504803\t做出相對嚴厲的這個處分那對這個老師其實來講不是很公平所以我的意思是說如果有協助調查的教師代表跟家長代表來協助輔助調查的話那是不是會讓這個調查小組的機制更為完備 可是前提是這個轉述調查報告一定是這三個外派的 外聘的\n505823\t527006\t老師跟家長的這個代表就純粹是在輔助調查提供資料那個部長你覺得這樣如何謝謝委員的一個提醒確實我們也考慮到因為以現階段的教師會雖然有教師代表有家長代表都是列席而且常常都是結果定論了以後才去表達意見\n528067\t541586\t陳主委員所說的我們能不能把他做到前端他也能夠隨著一起調查一起去了解整個事情的脈絡能夠真正的讓老師能夠他的權益不會受到這個損害\n543308\t562998\t我想就是說我們有一定程度的一個有一些疏漏應該刻意適當的一個證明而不是一刀下去就因為而受到一個冤屈或者不當的一些對待我想委員的這個建議是非常有建設性的我想這也是我們在未來我們可以把他納進來一起來來做整個調整這個規劃 謝謝\n566420\t585342\t再想繼續追問剛剛很多委員關心就是有關於教師法跟教師待遇條例因為老師如果受到停聘解聘或不續聘等等的處分提起救濟後他有回復聘證那我們只能補發他的本薪現在規定是這樣\n586443\t608221\t可是教師的心思 部長你最清楚除了本性以外 還有學術研究費那如果他未受解聘或停聘處分那他用救濟方式恢復了這個病人老師那沒有給他補發這段時間的學術研究費我覺得恐怕不是很公平 一定有捏薄心而已\n609302\t627242\t所以是不是這個事情也來研究看看讓他如果回復他的教師職位的話是不是就可以補給他所謂的全新謝謝委員的一個提醒確實我們也我想委員的這樣一個建議是很有建設性的我們來努力\n627994\t654355\t好好謝謝那再簡單喔在那個30秒剛剛很多人提及就是大家都關心的我想這個是大家都關心就是這個終點費跟導師的職務加給的提升我想中間這個我們很多年都沒有提升然後跟物價指數也都沒有跟得上這個我看這個部長你非常非常清楚所以實際上要請教你就說\n655276\t663913\t到底你現在的規劃中這個終點費或者導師費你有沒有想要調啊調幅大約是多少\n664741\t693862\t我们关心的跟委员所关心的是一致的然后在教育部内部我们事实上也有一直在讨论那当然在整个中央财政的一个前提下我们怎么样有一个适度的一个去反映物价指数包括老师的一些稳定老师的一些教学的一些必要的一些支持的一个力量凸显老师的教学工作的一个价值这都是我们在努力\n693882\t702846\t比如說像現在導師費一個月才三千塊 等於一天一百塊一家便當的超過一百塊所以我想這個討論一下 調整事實調整好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席謝謝移情委員\n","txt":"好那現在請林怡瑾委員質詢謝主席有請鄭部長鄭部長請\n首先要跟部長探討原住民族教育在各個層面是否可以擴及即將核定的平埔原住民有關平埔原住民的身份法很有可能就在10月底能完成刪讀\n那在這個同時身份取得以外的其他的配套政策我想也應該這個同時併進所以我在這裡就是說也要跟這個部長來探討也提醒部長因為我去年過去啦上一個會期其實非常積極參與這個評普原住民族身份法的這個立法討論那在審查會中我也有提醒原民會就是為了維繫評普原住民的文化傳承與原教育\n這個非常重要所以以我選區的西拉雅的實驗小學口皮國小的例子來看在主人的積極努力下這個附贈西拉雅的語言跟文化很有成就所以我想請教部長教育部配合國家語言發展法那依照學生選課需求要開設原住民這個族群 族語課程\n那什麼時候能完成這個評普原住民這個各族語言的師資跟教材的盤點進而開設課程我這邊要求的不多啦因為一開始其實萬事起頭難可是是否可以現在各族主要的分布地\n因為平埔族有聚落的地方確實不多各族的分布地來完成盤點跟開設例如像台南的Siraya跟南投的Kahabu我覺得是不是可以從這邊做起那部長是不是可以給個承諾謝謝我很關心平埔原住民會後我再跟委員報告其實我們平埔原住民族還真的是非常的多\n那根據這個沈建德這一個教授的一個研究其實從婚姻的儀式裡邊只要結婚有台帝拜天公不顧坐大 為這都是被補助很多台灣的社群其實都是被補助傳來我們確實也因為因應這個貧苦族所以這裡邊可能有很多都是有對 可是他還是要去登記才會成為貧苦族登記有個依據\n然後兩個禮拜內我想我們來配合這一個然後跟台南市因為西拉亞我想台南那一個部分家裡地區或者附近大概是西拉亞族我想我們來優先來跟台南市政府來討論看相關的課程教材怎麼樣來發展\n好 那再麻煩部長給個書面的報告好不好 相關的這些提問好 那我想再來還是要來跟您討論今天很多委員都關心的讓基層教師怨聲載道的這個校事會議的爛訴的問題\n因為根據之前教育部所做的調查其實在去年解聘辦法修正後的一年來校士會議的投訴案量高達1372案那有超過八成的案件都有受理\n可是經過調查之後的769件中不成立的案件有382件那佔比是49.7 將近5成那可是遭到停解聘的也才只有3.3%\n所以很明顯就說消失會議我們清楚知道他主要用意是用來處理不適任教師的這個停解聘的事宜可是許多教師都反映很多意想不到的投訴案件都進到消失會議去我在今年其實五月的時候開啟者會也有舉一些案例\n我在這裡就不再贅述那我絕對支持就是你最正確找或者是說真的涉及不適任疑慮的案件我們要盡最大力量來處理可是如果學校花了很多的時間 經費去找人 找資源來召開校事會議結果卻用在爛訴的案件上\n那我覺得這個對老師不僅是很大的困擾那行政也沒辦法減量那又犧牲了老師備課跟照顧孩子的時間那我想部長真的有很肯定的跟很友善的表達說要研擬就是對匿名檢舉增加限制那我在教育部在上個禮拜也有召開解聘辦法的研商會議那有提出說要新增受理\n之前要有個協調機制那我想要請教部長說那學校端這裡他要怎麼來分類說什麼案件是可以先行溝通協調那什麼案子是進入校事會議我的意思是說有時候學校端你若沒有給個指引或給個所謂的SOP那學校端也很難依循 部長\n謝謝委員提醒確實我們在這一次的一個修訂裡邊我們就是希望能夠舉一些實際的案例然後給校長行政團隊有一些依循有一些只是口頭他老師的這個語言上的一時的這一些可能的一個疏漏我們就提醒他或者班級經營就提醒他他就改正有一些可能他在管教方式上需要有一段時間來有專人來協助他都沒有進入到\n不必要进入到这个校师会议所以我们在这边以后校师会议就只有处理那一个由社会公正人士组成然后由处理不适任教师那一个机会至于属于要教学改善或者沟通或者亲师合作的这一个部分的增能也好或者一些行为上的调整这个就是在学校里边本权者里边来做所以我们大概就是会举例给学校端有SOP\n好 那目前進到校事會議之中會有一個調查小組那現在全部的成員都是外聘那我當然知道其實這個外聘我們那時候也是防堵說這個師師相互嘛而且外聘就是所謂的公正人員而且這些外聘人員都有受訓過那也大部分是學者啦 律師等等可是現在有個問題出現就是本來的教師代表跟教養代表其實都是應聘\n應邀來陳述意見他們就是一個列席的一個情況可是如果說我們調查小組成員如果全部都是外聘那這些也只有列席而已那我看很怕說學校的脈絡跟\n真正的教學的情況這個調查小組不是很了解我們舉個例來講有時候有個老師他可能平常在學校的表現是非常的不錯可是他可能突然間有一個情緒上的問題或怎麼樣有一些失當的行為可是你這個外聘小組因為他不了解學校這個老師平常的做法所以他可能就意料這個失當的行為\n做出相對嚴厲的這個處分那對這個老師其實來講不是很公平所以我的意思是說如果有協助調查的教師代表跟家長代表來協助輔助調查的話那是不是會讓這個調查小組的機制更為完備 可是前提是這個轉述調查報告一定是這三個外派的 外聘的\n老師跟家長的這個代表就純粹是在輔助調查提供資料那個部長你覺得這樣如何謝謝委員的一個提醒確實我們也考慮到因為以現階段的教師會雖然有教師代表有家長代表都是列席而且常常都是結果定論了以後才去表達意見\n陳主委員所說的我們能不能把他做到前端他也能夠隨著一起調查一起去了解整個事情的脈絡能夠真正的讓老師能夠他的權益不會受到這個損害\n我想就是說我們有一定程度的一個有一些疏漏應該刻意適當的一個證明而不是一刀下去就因為而受到一個冤屈或者不當的一些對待我想委員的這個建議是非常有建設性的我想這也是我們在未來我們可以把他納進來一起來來做整個調整這個規劃 謝謝\n再想繼續追問剛剛很多委員關心就是有關於教師法跟教師待遇條例因為老師如果受到停聘解聘或不續聘等等的處分提起救濟後他有回復聘證那我們只能補發他的本薪現在規定是這樣\n可是教師的心思 部長你最清楚除了本性以外 還有學術研究費那如果他未受解聘或停聘處分那他用救濟方式恢復了這個病人老師那沒有給他補發這段時間的學術研究費我覺得恐怕不是很公平 一定有捏薄心而已\n所以是不是這個事情也來研究看看讓他如果回復他的教師職位的話是不是就可以補給他所謂的全新謝謝委員的一個提醒確實我們也我想委員的這樣一個建議是很有建設性的我們來努力\n好好謝謝那再簡單喔在那個30秒剛剛很多人提及就是大家都關心的我想這個是大家都關心就是這個終點費跟導師的職務加給的提升我想中間這個我們很多年都沒有提升然後跟物價指數也都沒有跟得上這個我看這個部長你非常非常清楚所以實際上要請教你就說\n到底你現在的規劃中這個終點費或者導師費你有沒有想要調啊調幅大約是多少\n我们关心的跟委员所关心的是一致的然后在教育部内部我们事实上也有一直在讨论那当然在整个中央财政的一个前提下我们怎么样有一个适度的一个去反映物价指数包括老师的一些稳定老师的一些教学的一些必要的一些支持的一个力量凸显老师的教学工作的一个价值这都是我们在努力\n比如說像現在導師費一個月才三千塊 等於一天一百塊一家便當的超過一百塊所以我想這個討論一下 調整事實調整好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席謝謝移情委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.240 --> 00:11.184\n好那現在請林怡瑾委員質詢謝主席有請鄭部長鄭部長請\n\n00:20.769 --> 00:37.141\n首先要跟部長探討原住民族教育在各個層面是否可以擴及即將核定的平埔原住民有關平埔原住民的身份法很有可能就在10月底能完成刪讀\n\n00:38.422 --> 01:07.179\n那在這個同時身份取得以外的其他的配套政策我想也應該這個同時併進所以我在這裡就是說也要跟這個部長來探討也提醒部長因為我去年過去啦上一個會期其實非常積極參與這個評普原住民族身份法的這個立法討論那在審查會中我也有提醒原民會就是為了維繫評普原住民的文化傳承與原教育\n\n01:08.079 --> 01:34.860\n這個非常重要所以以我選區的西拉雅的實驗小學口皮國小的例子來看在主人的積極努力下這個附贈西拉雅的語言跟文化很有成就所以我想請教部長教育部配合國家語言發展法那依照學生選課需求要開設原住民這個族群族語課程\n\n01:36.221 --> 01:55.503\n那什麼時候能完成這個評普原住民這個各族語言的師資跟教材的盤點進而開設課程我這邊要求的不多啦因為一開始其實萬事起頭難可是是否可以現在各族主要的分布地\n\n01:56.464 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