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00:01:47,344\n的這個順利的這個外交方面我們有哪些突破那接下來如何讓這些雙邊的這個關係能夠提升到一個新的層次我們具體的目標會是什麼是跟委員報告確實當然我們用各種方式走向世界世界也歡迎台灣\n\n5\n00:01:49,205 --> 00:02:15,937\n在外交部長的出訪方面陳儒委員所說不管是日本、菲律賓或歐洲的一些國家我們也都跟對方保持很好的溝通事實上就是要共同來管理中國可能的不理性反應事實上空間很大特別是在民主國家在他們來講政府當然可能有涉及到對中對台的政策不過國會\n\n6\n00:02:17,518 --> 00:02:25,801\n自庫乃至於像民間像科技跟文化的外交空間是無限大所以我們只要找好跟我們的友邦的國家對應交流的領域他們也對台灣充滿這個歡迎\n\n7\n00:02:35,985 --> 00:02:53,512\n最主要是說台灣在面對中國威脅的第一線我們很有經驗可以分享那台灣這幾年我想不管在民主化還有在高科技產業的發展大家都是非常的敬佩所以這些都是台灣可以跟世界做朋友很好的主題\n\n8\n00:02:54,272 --> 00:03:14,369\n那麼所謂突破我們是不敢這樣說但是有一些第一次我想也希望建立未來良好的基礎比如說所謂的中共設定的紅線在比如說日本菲律賓甚至歐洲的國家其實他們對於就是\n\n9\n00:03:15,441 --> 00:03:26,251\n我的出訪因為這些國家事實上也都有跟台灣有免簽他們是自由旅行的國家甚至歐洲我到華沙安全論壇當然王毅中國的外交部長他也先到一步他們都有表達這個希望\n\n10\n00:03:34,459 --> 00:03:46,061\n阻止我的到訪不過我們也很感謝這些民主國家他們也都能夠加以說明那我們也見證了其實中共過去一再的扭曲所謂的一中的原則讓中華人民共和國是包含台灣而包括聯合國的這個2758號決議不斷的去扭曲擴張的解釋這些都是法律戰的一部分\n\n11\n00:03:59,861 --> 00:04:28,804\n那我們也跟這些友邦持續的溝通如果我們接受了中共的解釋他會不斷的得寸進尺所以有一些底線就是我們是應該講說讓中共也知道所以包括像G7這個高峰會外交部長的這個聲明等等都已經不再提及所謂的一個中國的政策因為很容易跟一個中國的原則混淆那特別是今年中共發動法律戰所謂三個八十年\n\n12\n00:04:29,845 --> 00:04:34,088\n那就是要把台灣啊就是解釋為中國的一部分那他是採取一種就是改變現況所以我們是在捍衛我們台灣這個主權跟地位這樣的一個角度出發共同來跟友盟啊\n\n13\n00:04:47,198 --> 00:05:03,249\n一起來因應中共可能的這一些威嚇那我們也設了一些我想越來越多就是對於中共法律戰我們的反制那我們也感謝向美國的國務院做出對聯合國2758決議的試點聲明那包括最近德國這個政府從總理到外交部長強調聯合國的憲章聯合國的這一個\n\n14\n00:05:13,641 --> 00:05:18,047\n宣言裡面的這些不實用武力解決爭議的精神\n\n15\n00:05:20,282 --> 00:05:42,188\n好謝謝謝謝部長那這一年我們推動的這個總和外交的相關策略已經看到相當程度的一個成效在剛剛部長您說明的內容那我們也期待接下來外交部能夠持續的來拓展我們台灣在國際上的這個外交空間提升我們和民主同盟國家的之間實質的這個關係能夠更加的緊密\n\n16\n00:05:46,415 --> 00:06:10,783\n繼續我想請教就是在經貿上經貿上我們針對大家所關心的關稅談判部分目前美國政府已經關閉超過兩個禮拜以上了那似乎還不確定什麼時候可以恢復這個談判的運作那我想請教部長就是對於美國政府的內部情勢有何掌握那我們爭取在這個月底前達成談判的結論的目標是否不變\n\n17\n00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:32,365\n在台灣方面其實都已經準備好方案那美國政府其實也是高度肯定那當然最要做總結以及因為這裡面涉及到除了關稅還有這個232條款以及包括各方面包括最近發生的這一個所謂的稀土的議題\n\n18\n00:06:33,965 --> 00:06:42,419\n那當然這些也都美台之間有都很良好的溝通所以就等著最後就是我想是應該到川普總統的層次了那他但整體的一個考量那這些\n\n19\n00:06:49,777 --> 00:06:52,541\n定案的時間應該講說我們談判已經基本上有告一個段落後續就是依照程序來對於總結的報告還有雙邊的這些備忘錄的簽署\n\n20\n00:07:05,836 --> 00:07:25,556\n那這部分還是請我們外交部持續掌握另外在月底即將登場的APEC領袖峰會已經確定由我們林信義我們執政來率領代表團同時也會由楊真理政委還有國科會的楊承文我們主委共同出席雙部長的會議\n\n21\n00:07:27,318 --> 00:07:56,437\n那這一次的這個對等關稅的這個在這個背景之下這場世界領袖的年度盛會尤其重要那我想我們的代表團在任務上安排是否能夠掌握到和各國這個經貿往來對談的一個機會並且在這一次這個雙邊會談的規劃上我們會不會與美方進行這個對談另外非常熟悉我們這個汽車產業被封為台灣艾克卡的這個零信義之證是否有機會\n\n22\n00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:04,335\n可以和這個同樣重視美國汽車產業的這個川普總統就共同的話題來相互交流\n\n23\n00:08:05,777 --> 00:08:15,520\n我們都有在聯繫安排中我想APEC高峰會是一個各國是以平等的地位參與所以我們會爭取包括跟美國總統當然會面另外也就是一些包括企業高峰會的場合我們也去年在秘魯\n\n24\n00:08:29,305 --> 00:08:45,777\n因為中共的打壓但是我們成功的去捍衛甚至爭取到更對等的地位那我們也期待今年在韓國APEC的峰會可以作為明年因為在中國舉行所以我們是密切注意那也透過除了跟韓國方面的溝通以外也透過包括美國各方的管道希望能夠助我安排能夠有平等參與的地位\n\n25\n00:08:54,383 --> 00:09:13,003\n好那明年的這個峰會在中國嘛那我們有沒有事先先做好相關的這個預擬會不會這個台灣受到中國的打壓讓我們在不對等的這種這個平台上來與各國的這個領袖對談部長再要回答請再要回答\n\n26\n00:09:13,243 --> 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謝謝你在中國這麼持續打壓之下我們台灣的外交組織一向充滿非常嚴峻的挑戰但是在這一年的時間看到部長頻繁的代表我們國家出訪那剛剛在報告當中也聽到\n30566\t56723\t參訪了11個友邦另外也有9個非友邦及歐盟的這些相關國家其中也部分有一些跟地緣關係的國家尤其是在亞洲的日本跟菲律賓以日本的部分可能也是我們台日斷交53年以來第一個被公開訪日的一個我們台灣的外交部長\n57583\t83881\t那您也突破了中國的相關這個手段的圍堵能夠順利到歐洲五個國家進行各項的交流也到順利的到這個論壇來發表演說等等那在我看來您應該是在這個外交突破上有豐富的相關的這個收穫那我想請教部長的部分近期在您出訪世界各國達成\n86055\t107344\t的這個順利的這個外交方面我們有哪些突破那接下來如何讓這些雙邊的這個關係能夠提升到一個新的層次我們具體的目標會是什麼是跟委員報告確實當然我們用各種方式走向世界世界也歡迎台灣\n109205\t135937\t在外交部長的出訪方面陳儒委員所說不管是日本、菲律賓或歐洲的一些國家我們也都跟對方保持很好的溝通事實上就是要共同來管理中國可能的不理性反應事實上空間很大特別是在民主國家在他們來講政府當然可能有涉及到對中對台的政策不過國會\n137518\t145801\t自庫乃至於像民間像科技跟文化的外交空間是無限大所以我們只要找好跟我們的友邦的國家對應交流的領域他們也對台灣充滿這個歡迎\n155985\t173512\t最主要是說台灣在面對中國威脅的第一線我們很有經驗可以分享那台灣這幾年我想不管在民主化還有在高科技產業的發展大家都是非常的敬佩所以這些都是台灣可以跟世界做朋友很好的主題\n174272\t194369\t那麼所謂突破我們是不敢這樣說但是有一些第一次我想也希望建立未來良好的基礎比如說所謂的中共設定的紅線在比如說日本菲律賓甚至歐洲的國家其實他們對於就是\n195441\t206251\t我的出訪因為這些國家事實上也都有跟台灣有免簽他們是自由旅行的國家甚至歐洲我到華沙安全論壇當然王毅中國的外交部長他也先到一步他們都有表達這個希望\n214459\t226061\t阻止我的到訪不過我們也很感謝這些民主國家他們也都能夠加以說明那我們也見證了其實中共過去一再的扭曲所謂的一中的原則讓中華人民共和國是包含台灣而包括聯合國的這個2758號決議不斷的去扭曲擴張的解釋這些都是法律戰的一部分\n239861\t268804\t那我們也跟這些友邦持續的溝通如果我們接受了中共的解釋他會不斷的得寸進尺所以有一些底線就是我們是應該講說讓中共也知道所以包括像G7這個高峰會外交部長的這個聲明等等都已經不再提及所謂的一個中國的政策因為很容易跟一個中國的原則混淆那特別是今年中共發動法律戰所謂三個八十年\n269845\t274088\t那就是要把台灣啊 就是解釋為中國的一部分那他是採取一種就是改變現況所以我們是在捍衛我們台灣這個主權跟地位這樣的一個角度出發共同來跟友盟啊\n287198\t303249\t一起來因應中共可能的這一些威嚇那我們也設了一些我想越來越多就是對於中共法律戰我們的反制那我們也感謝向美國的國務院做出對聯合國2758決議的試點聲明那包括最近德國這個政府從總理到外交部長強調聯合國的憲章聯合國的這一個\n313641\t318047\t宣言裡面的這些不實用武力解決爭議的精神\n320282\t342188\t好 謝謝 謝謝部長那這一年我們推動的這個總和外交的相關策略已經看到相當程度的一個成效在剛剛部長您說明的內容那我們也期待接下來外交部能夠持續的來拓展我們台灣在國際上的這個外交空間提升我們和民主同盟國家的之間實質的這個關係能夠更加的緊密\n346415\t370783\t繼續我想請教就是在經貿上經貿上我們針對大家所關心的關稅談判部分目前美國政府已經關閉超過兩個禮拜以上了那似乎還不確定什麼時候可以恢復這個談判的運作那我想請教部長就是對於美國政府的內部情勢有何掌握那我們爭取在這個月底前達成談判的結論的目標是否不變\n372839\t392365\t在台灣方面其實都已經準備好方案那美國政府其實也是高度肯定那當然最要做總結以及因為這裡面涉及到除了關稅還有這個232條款以及包括各方面包括最近發生的這一個所謂的稀土的議題\n393965\t402419\t那當然這些也都美台之間有都很良好的溝通所以就等著最後就是我想是應該到川普總統的層次了那他但整體的一個考量那這些\n409777\t412541\t定案的時間應該講說我們談判已經基本上有告一個段落後續就是依照程序來對於總結的報告還有雙邊的這些備忘錄的簽署\n425836\t445556\t那這部分還是請我們外交部持續掌握另外在月底即將登場的APEC領袖峰會已經確定由我們林信義我們執政來率領代表團同時也會由楊真理政委還有國科會的楊承文我們主委共同出席雙部長的會議\n447318\t476437\t那這一次的這個對等關稅的這個在這個背景之下這場世界領袖的年度盛會尤其重要那我想我們的代表團在任務上安排是否能夠掌握到和各國這個經貿往來對談的一個機會並且在這一次這個雙邊會談的規劃上我們會不會與美方進行這個對談另外非常熟悉我們這個汽車產業被封為台灣艾克卡的這個零信義之證是否有機會\n478040\t484335\t可以和這個同樣重視美國汽車產業的這個川普總統就共同的話題來相互交流\n485777\t495520\t我們都有在聯繫安排中我想APEC高峰會是一個各國是以平等的地位參與所以我們會爭取包括跟美國總統當然會面另外也就是一些包括企業高峰會的場合我們也去年在秘魯\n509305\t525777\t因為中共的打壓但是我們成功的去捍衛甚至爭取到更對等的地位那我們也期待今年在韓國APEC的峰會可以作為明年因為在中國舉行所以我們是密切注意那也透過除了跟韓國方面的溝通以外也透過包括美國各方的管道希望能夠助我安排能夠有平等參與的地位\n534383\t553003\t好 那明年的這個峰會在中國嘛那我們有沒有事先先做好相關的這個預擬會不會這個台灣受到中國的打壓讓我們在不對等的這種這個平台上來與各國的這個領袖對談部長再要回答 請再要回答\n553243\t563472\t再要回答 對就是因為去年中國在秘魯高峰會的時候就是要爭取主辦所以我們當時有訴求也經過中國方面他們的這個資深代表有正式發函給會員這個國家跟經濟體所以我們希望他們能夠說到做到不要再發生這一個矮化台灣的情形發生好 謝謝好 以上\n","txt":"好 謝謝趙偉 我們有請家榮部長部長早部長辛苦了 不會 謝謝你在中國這麼持續打壓之下我們台灣的外交組織一向充滿非常嚴峻的挑戰但是在這一年的時間看到部長頻繁的代表我們國家出訪那剛剛在報告當中也聽到\n參訪了11個友邦另外也有9個非友邦及歐盟的這些相關國家其中也部分有一些跟地緣關係的國家尤其是在亞洲的日本跟菲律賓以日本的部分可能也是我們台日斷交53年以來第一個被公開訪日的一個我們台灣的外交部長\n那您也突破了中國的相關這個手段的圍堵能夠順利到歐洲五個國家進行各項的交流也到順利的到這個論壇來發表演說等等那在我看來您應該是在這個外交突破上有豐富的相關的這個收穫那我想請教部長的部分近期在您出訪世界各國達成\n的這個順利的這個外交方面我們有哪些突破那接下來如何讓這些雙邊的這個關係能夠提升到一個新的層次我們具體的目標會是什麼是跟委員報告確實當然我們用各種方式走向世界世界也歡迎台灣\n在外交部長的出訪方面陳儒委員所說不管是日本、菲律賓或歐洲的一些國家我們也都跟對方保持很好的溝通事實上就是要共同來管理中國可能的不理性反應事實上空間很大特別是在民主國家在他們來講政府當然可能有涉及到對中對台的政策不過國會\n自庫乃至於像民間像科技跟文化的外交空間是無限大所以我們只要找好跟我們的友邦的國家對應交流的領域他們也對台灣充滿這個歡迎\n最主要是說台灣在面對中國威脅的第一線我們很有經驗可以分享那台灣這幾年我想不管在民主化還有在高科技產業的發展大家都是非常的敬佩所以這些都是台灣可以跟世界做朋友很好的主題\n那麼所謂突破我們是不敢這樣說但是有一些第一次我想也希望建立未來良好的基礎比如說所謂的中共設定的紅線在比如說日本菲律賓甚至歐洲的國家其實他們對於就是\n我的出訪因為這些國家事實上也都有跟台灣有免簽他們是自由旅行的國家甚至歐洲我到華沙安全論壇當然王毅中國的外交部長他也先到一步他們都有表達這個希望\n阻止我的到訪不過我們也很感謝這些民主國家他們也都能夠加以說明那我們也見證了其實中共過去一再的扭曲所謂的一中的原則讓中華人民共和國是包含台灣而包括聯合國的這個2758號決議不斷的去扭曲擴張的解釋這些都是法律戰的一部分\n那我們也跟這些友邦持續的溝通如果我們接受了中共的解釋他會不斷的得寸進尺所以有一些底線就是我們是應該講說讓中共也知道所以包括像G7這個高峰會外交部長的這個聲明等等都已經不再提及所謂的一個中國的政策因為很容易跟一個中國的原則混淆那特別是今年中共發動法律戰所謂三個八十年\n那就是要把台灣啊 就是解釋為中國的一部分那他是採取一種就是改變現況所以我們是在捍衛我們台灣這個主權跟地位這樣的一個角度出發共同來跟友盟啊\n一起來因應中共可能的這一些威嚇那我們也設了一些我想越來越多就是對於中共法律戰我們的反制那我們也感謝向美國的國務院做出對聯合國2758決議的試點聲明那包括最近德國這個政府從總理到外交部長強調聯合國的憲章聯合國的這一個\n宣言裡面的這些不實用武力解決爭議的精神\n好 謝謝 謝謝部長那這一年我們推動的這個總和外交的相關策略已經看到相當程度的一個成效在剛剛部長您說明的內容那我們也期待接下來外交部能夠持續的來拓展我們台灣在國際上的這個外交空間提升我們和民主同盟國家的之間實質的這個關係能夠更加的緊密\n繼續我想請教就是在經貿上經貿上我們針對大家所關心的關稅談判部分目前美國政府已經關閉超過兩個禮拜以上了那似乎還不確定什麼時候可以恢復這個談判的運作那我想請教部長就是對於美國政府的內部情勢有何掌握那我們爭取在這個月底前達成談判的結論的目標是否不變\n在台灣方面其實都已經準備好方案那美國政府其實也是高度肯定那當然最要做總結以及因為這裡面涉及到除了關稅還有這個232條款以及包括各方面包括最近發生的這一個所謂的稀土的議題\n那當然這些也都美台之間有都很良好的溝通所以就等著最後就是我想是應該到川普總統的層次了那他但整體的一個考量那這些\n定案的時間應該講說我們談判已經基本上有告一個段落後續就是依照程序來對於總結的報告還有雙邊的這些備忘錄的簽署\n那這部分還是請我們外交部持續掌握另外在月底即將登場的APEC領袖峰會已經確定由我們林信義我們執政來率領代表團同時也會由楊真理政委還有國科會的楊承文我們主委共同出席雙部長的會議\n那這一次的這個對等關稅的這個在這個背景之下這場世界領袖的年度盛會尤其重要那我想我們的代表團在任務上安排是否能夠掌握到和各國這個經貿往來對談的一個機會並且在這一次這個雙邊會談的規劃上我們會不會與美方進行這個對談另外非常熟悉我們這個汽車產業被封為台灣艾克卡的這個零信義之證是否有機會\n可以和這個同樣重視美國汽車產業的這個川普總統就共同的話題來相互交流\n我們都有在聯繫安排中我想APEC高峰會是一個各國是以平等的地位參與所以我們會爭取包括跟美國總統當然會面另外也就是一些包括企業高峰會的場合我們也去年在秘魯\n因為中共的打壓但是我們成功的去捍衛甚至爭取到更對等的地位那我們也期待今年在韓國APEC的峰會可以作為明年因為在中國舉行所以我們是密切注意那也透過除了跟韓國方面的溝通以外也透過包括美國各方的管道希望能夠助我安排能夠有平等參與的地位\n好 那明年的這個峰會在中國嘛那我們有沒有事先先做好相關的這個預擬會不會這個台灣受到中國的打壓讓我們在不對等的這種這個平台上來與各國的這個領袖對談部長再要回答 請再要回答\n再要回答 對就是因為去年中國在秘魯高峰會的時候就是要爭取主辦所以我們當時有訴求也經過中國方面他們的這個資深代表有正式發函給會員這個國家跟經濟體所以我們希望他們能夠說到做到不要再發生這一個矮化台灣的情形發生好 謝謝好 以上\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.930 --> 00:04.072\n好謝謝趙偉我們有請家榮部長部長早部長辛苦了不會謝謝你在中國這麼持續打壓之下我們台灣的外交組織一向充滿非常嚴峻的挑戰但是在這一年的時間看到部長頻繁的代表我們國家出訪那剛剛在報告當中也聽到\n\n00:30.566 --> 00:56.723\n參訪了11個友邦另外也有9個非友邦及歐盟的這些相關國家其中也部分有一些跟地緣關係的國家尤其是在亞洲的日本跟菲律賓以日本的部分可能也是我們台日斷交53年以來第一個被公開訪日的一個我們台灣的外交部長\n\n00:57.583 --> 01:23.881\n那您也突破了中國的相關這個手段的圍堵能夠順利到歐洲五個國家進行各項的交流也到順利的到這個論壇來發表演說等等那在我看來您應該是在這個外交突破上有豐富的相關的這個收穫那我想請教部長的部分近期在您出訪世界各國達成\n\n01:26.055 --> 01:47.344\n的這個順利的這個外交方面我們有哪些突破那接下來如何讓這些雙邊的這個關係能夠提升到一個新的層次我們具體的目標會是什麼是跟委員報告確實當然我們用各種方式走向世界世界也歡迎台灣\n\n01:49.205 --> 02:15.937\n在外交部長的出訪方面陳儒委員所說不管是日本、菲律賓或歐洲的一些國家我們也都跟對方保持很好的溝通事實上就是要共同來管理中國可能的不理性反應事實上空間很大特別是在民主國家在他們來講政府當然可能有涉及到對中對台的政策不過國會\n\n02:17.518 --> 02:25.801\n自庫乃至於像民間像科技跟文化的外交空間是無限大所以我們只要找好跟我們的友邦的國家對應交流的領域他們也對台灣充滿這個歡迎\n\n02:35.985 --> 02:53.512\n最主要是說台灣在面對中國威脅的第一線我們很有經驗可以分享那台灣這幾年我想不管在民主化還有在高科技產業的發展大家都是非常的敬佩所以這些都是台灣可以跟世界做朋友很好的主題\n\n02:54.272 --> 03:14.369\n那麼所謂突破我們是不敢這樣說但是有一些第一次我想也希望建立未來良好的基礎比如說所謂的中共設定的紅線在比如說日本菲律賓甚至歐洲的國家其實他們對於就是\n\n03:15.441 --> 03:26.251\n我的出訪因為這些國家事實上也都有跟台灣有免簽他們是自由旅行的國家甚至歐洲我到華沙安全論壇當然王毅中國的外交部長他也先到一步他們都有表達這個希望\n\n03:34.459 --> 03:46.061\n阻止我的到訪不過我們也很感謝這些民主國家他們也都能夠加以說明那我們也見證了其實中共過去一再的扭曲所謂的一中的原則讓中華人民共和國是包含台灣而包括聯合國的這個2758號決議不斷的去扭曲擴張的解釋這些都是法律戰的一部分\n\n03:59.861 --> 04:28.804\n那我們也跟這些友邦持續的溝通如果我們接受了中共的解釋他會不斷的得寸進尺所以有一些底線就是我們是應該講說讓中共也知道所以包括像G7這個高峰會外交部長的這個聲明等等都已經不再提及所謂的一個中國的政策因為很容易跟一個中國的原則混淆那特別是今年中共發動法律戰所謂三個八十年\n\n04:29.845 --> 04:34.088\n那就是要把台灣啊就是解釋為中國的一部分那他是採取一種就是改變現況所以我們是在捍衛我們台灣這個主權跟地位這樣的一個角度出發共同來跟友盟啊\n\n04:47.198 --> 05:03.249\n一起來因應中共可能的這一些威嚇那我們也設了一些我想越來越多就是對於中共法律戰我們的反制那我們也感謝向美國的國務院做出對聯合國2758決議的試點聲明那包括最近德國這個政府從總理到外交部長強調聯合國的憲章聯合國的這一個\n\n05:13.641 --> 05:18.047\n宣言裡面的這些不實用武力解決爭議的精神\n\n05:20.282 --> 05:42.188\n好謝謝謝謝部長那這一年我們推動的這個總和外交的相關策略已經看到相當程度的一個成效在剛剛部長您說明的內容那我們也期待接下來外交部能夠持續的來拓展我們台灣在國際上的這個外交空間提升我們和民主同盟國家的之間實質的這個關係能夠更加的緊密\n\n05:46.415 --> 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