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00:01:58,136\n就是丹納斯颱風他就是只有放了一天的容易價那可是那個花蓮這個還有救災的一個津貼部長有沒有機會就是我們把它那個轉為就是是一個制度化\n\n7\n00:01:59,459 --> 00:02:26,028\n報告委員我想分成兩個層次跟委員報告一個就是現役替代役上次到這個台南嘉義去幫忙他們是現役替代役那也非常謝謝警政署長當時的現役替代役都是警大跟警專的畢業生他們等於是在受訓的期間是按照兵役法受訓的期間所以他們被派去那個地方那那個人次的到高達1500多人表現得都非常的好\n\n8\n00:02:26,308 --> 00:02:28,610\n非常好那我們把它當成說這是他服完替代役的時候的最後一個階段的一個等於是限定的實習所以表現都非常好那這一次到花蓮縣去有兩種\n\n9\n00:02:41,479 --> 00:03:10,876\n一個呢是現役替代役呢是由我們的役政司調動全台灣各地的替代役也就是按照兵役法他是現役的那到那邊去幫忙那包括他們住在廟宇裡面呢都會有這個帶隊的這個教官來幫忙處理這是現役的部分那被役的部分是這一次呢是全國首次有沒有機會就是讓救災的一個津貼是一個就是一個固定性的其實我要的是這樣子\n\n10\n00:03:11,016 --> 00:03:20,827\n是報告委員是這樣子因為他們是根據兵役法所以他們現在每一天所領的這個津貼是700塊再加上有伙食津貼是150或是167左右那這個部分的給予的方式跟現在的國軍是一樣的\n\n11\n00:03:28,456 --> 00:03:39,241\n那是不是要給他的救災津貼我覺得要來研議為什麼呢因為我們可以給他榮譽價也可以給他這方面的鼓勵救災津貼是最實際的啦我覺得要跟國軍一樣比較好國軍他們也是24小時投入我們在溝通啦私下在溝通那針對的花蓮縣政府他就是說要求取消垂直的一個撤離接下來內政部如何協助\n\n12\n00:03:56,749 --> 00:04:25,749\n這個花蓮的鄉親這個撤離的一個計畫謝謝委員的指教我想這兩天有新的變化第一個就是風神颱風要過來那風神颱風預計也會對花蓮縣尤其是災區造成一定程度的影響所以花蓮縣政府原來他們是取消所謂的垂直撤離那經過紀連城政委這兩天的溝通所有在災區裡面的村長他們都認為垂直撤離仍然是一種方式\n\n13\n00:04:26,289 --> 00:04:46,552\n所以紀連城政委他的才事就是變成混合你要做疏散撤離或做垂直撤離或是依親或者是有其他的收容安置這些都可以接受的方案那目前呢我們就是依村長他們所報上來的清查的保全戶的部分大概要接受疏散撤離的人大概是一千多人左右\n\n14\n00:04:47,253 --> 00:05:04,082\n那這個部分呢包括要備備遊覽車或是您剛所提到的對於替代役要協助他們做這樣的撤離工作大概都有些安排好所以說現在是中央接手嗎沒有報告委員我們現在沒有所謂接手的部分我還是一再強調\n\n15\n00:05:05,103 --> 00:05:32,537\n我們在救災尤其在中央災害應變中心的中央跟地方應該充分來合作尤其我們面對天災給我們的一個挑戰這麼大的情況之下什麼樣是最好的方式可以保全性命以及保護人民的生命財產安全應該是我們最大努力的方向你做了非常好的一個周全的準備了如果在未來就是說有另外的一個災害在進來的時候其實我們都可以有一個比較\n\n16\n00:05:34,212 --> 00:05:58,029\n好的一個計畫來那個應對嗎是我們還是一樣要跟每個地方縣市政府一起來充分合作包括疏散撤離的部分就是我們要能夠精準的處理有關疏散撤離那這樣資源才不會錯置而且呢在短暫時間內所發生的這個天災其實大家都知道一定要非常迅速來處理而不是非常久的時間去溝通謝謝部長部長跟署長我想讓你們看一張圖\n\n17\n00:06:03,193 --> 00:06:10,958\n一個卡通的圖片叫做萬萬對卡通這是一張很可愛的卡通\n\n18\n00:06:12,588 --> 00:06:38,835\n他其實到處是伸張正義為大家解決困難那接著我要請問署長就是說其實我們知道這個全國最高的一個警察機構被跟監尤其是我們大概看得到了就是前任的那個警政署長黃明昭還有我們歷任的院長不管是陳建仁、蘇貞昌、卓榮泰甚至就是說我們的城局監察院長\n\n19\n00:06:40,100 --> 00:07:07,302\n那我要問一下署長就是說如果這個政治跟監跟偷拍的爛錢的行為是不是已經啟動了一個偵辦還是說預防的一個機制我想那個署長你私底下就是來那個我的辦公室做一個報告因為現在現已就是說你們有很多積極的一個行動你也不方便在這裡跟本席做一個報告那事實上我在這裡請問那個署長\n\n20\n00:07:10,046 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接下來內政部如何協助\n236749\t265749\t這個花蓮的鄉親這個撤離的一個計畫謝謝委員的指教我想這兩天有新的變化第一個就是風神颱風要過來那風神颱風預計也會對花蓮縣尤其是災區造成一定程度的影響所以花蓮縣政府原來他們是取消所謂的垂直撤離那經過紀連城政委這兩天的溝通所有在災區裡面的村長他們都認為垂直撤離仍然是一種方式\n266289\t286552\t所以紀連城政委他的才事就是變成混合你要做疏散撤離或做垂直撤離或是依親或者是有其他的收容安置這些都可以接受的方案那目前呢我們就是依村長他們所報上來的清查的保全戶的部分大概要接受疏散撤離的人大概是一千多人左右\n287253\t304082\t那這個部分呢包括要備備遊覽車或是您剛所提到的對於替代役要協助他們做這樣的撤離工作大概都有些安排好所以說現在是中央接手嗎沒有報告委員我們現在沒有所謂接手的部分我還是一再強調\n305103\t332537\t我們在救災尤其在中央災害應變中心的中央跟地方應該充分來合作尤其我們面對天災給我們的一個挑戰這麼大的情況之下什麼樣是最好的方式可以保全性命以及保護人民的生命財產安全應該是我們最大努力的方向你做了非常好的一個周全的準備了如果在未來就是說有另外的一個災害在進來的時候其實我們都可以有一個比較\n334212\t358029\t好的一個計畫來那個應對嗎是我們還是一樣要跟每個地方縣市政府一起來充分合作包括疏散撤離的部分就是我們要能夠精準的處理有關疏散撤離那這樣資源才不會錯置而且呢在短暫時間內所發生的這個天災其實大家都知道一定要非常迅速來處理而不是非常久的時間去溝通謝謝部長部長跟署長我想讓你們看一張圖\n363193\t370958\t一個卡通的圖片叫做萬萬對卡通這是一張很可愛的卡通\n372588\t398835\t他其實到處是伸張正義為大家解決困難那接著我要請問署長就是說其實我們知道這個全國最高的一個警察機構被跟監尤其是我們大概看得到了就是前任的那個警政署長黃明昭還有我們歷任的院長不管是陳建仁、蘇貞昌、卓榮泰甚至就是說我們的城局監察院長\n400100\t427302\t那我要問一下署長就是說如果這個政治跟監跟偷拍的爛錢的行為是不是已經啟動了一個偵辦還是說預防的一個機制我想那個署長你私底下就是來那個我的辦公室做一個報告因為現在現已就是說你們有很多積極的一個行動你也不方便在這裡跟本席做一個報告那事實上我在這裡請問那個署長\n430046\t431033\t有沒有開始啟動了\n432349\t457914\t好那對於這一些跟拍或者是偷拍如果說是涉嫌違法只要有告訴告發有立案我們一定一定會是依法來偵辦依法偵辦依法偵辦已經有人告發了有告發是已經成案了是是是我也會依法來偵辦好那就是請你再跟本席做一個比較深入的一個報告好不好謝謝謝謝謝謝謝謝主席\n460956\t461537\t好謝謝賴慧雍委員\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席請劉世芳部長還有警政署張榮興署長請劉部長 張署長兩位好委員你好非常感謝部長針對的就是在0708我的丹納斯颱風重創了我們整個台南的西北地區基本上狀況其實是很慘的\n那也謝謝內政部就是說聽到那個我們在求救的一個電話那馬上急派替代一支沿西北的地區\n如果這一次花蓮是產值超人的話其實我想這些替代藝應該就是環部超人因為真的是由西北人口老化其實我們需要很多就是比較年輕的在搶救的一個過程裡頭可是當我們需要很多年輕的一個\n這些替代役的官兵來協助我們的時候是不是可以跟部長討論一下救災當然需要更快可是這個救災的替代役制度化是不是可以把它有一個固定的帶面的一個編組因為那個地球的一個軟化我們可能都會面臨到很多的一個挑戰\n丹納斯颱風跟花蓮派出去的一個替代役其實在這個就是鼓勵上有一些不同當然就是說我們的丹納斯颱風是當天去當天回來那花蓮是住在那個地方\n就是丹納斯颱風他就是只有放了一天的容易價那可是那個花蓮這個還有救災的一個津貼部長有沒有機會就是我們把它那個轉為就是是一個制度化\n報告委員我想分成兩個層次跟委員報告一個就是現役替代役上次到這個台南嘉義去幫忙他們是現役替代役那也非常謝謝警政署長當時的現役替代役都是警大跟警專的畢業生他們等於是在受訓的期間是按照兵役法受訓的期間所以他們被派去那個地方那那個人次的到高達1500多人表現得都非常的好\n非常好 那我們把它當成說這是他服完替代役的時候的最後一個階段的一個等於是限定的實習所以表現都非常好那這一次到花蓮縣去有兩種\n一個呢是現役替代役呢是由我們的役政司調動全台灣各地的替代役也就是按照兵役法他是現役的那到那邊去幫忙那包括他們住在廟宇裡面呢都會有這個帶隊的這個教官來幫忙處理這是現役的部分那被役的部分是這一次呢是全國首次有沒有機會就是讓救災的一個津貼是一個就是一個固定性的其實我要的是這樣子\n是 報告委員是這樣子因為他們是根據兵役法所以他們現在每一天所領的這個津貼是700塊再加上有伙食津貼是150或是167左右那這個部分的給予的方式跟現在的國軍是一樣的\n那是不是要給他的救災津貼 我覺得要來研議為什麼呢 因為我們可以給他榮譽價 也可以給他這方面的鼓勵救災津貼是最實際的啦 我覺得要跟國軍一樣比較好國軍他們也是24小時投入 我們在溝通啦 私下在溝通那針對的花蓮縣政府他就是說要求取消垂直的一個撤離 接下來內政部如何協助\n這個花蓮的鄉親這個撤離的一個計畫謝謝委員的指教我想這兩天有新的變化第一個就是風神颱風要過來那風神颱風預計也會對花蓮縣尤其是災區造成一定程度的影響所以花蓮縣政府原來他們是取消所謂的垂直撤離那經過紀連城政委這兩天的溝通所有在災區裡面的村長他們都認為垂直撤離仍然是一種方式\n所以紀連城政委他的才事就是變成混合你要做疏散撤離或做垂直撤離或是依親或者是有其他的收容安置這些都可以接受的方案那目前呢我們就是依村長他們所報上來的清查的保全戶的部分大概要接受疏散撤離的人大概是一千多人左右\n那這個部分呢包括要備備遊覽車或是您剛所提到的對於替代役要協助他們做這樣的撤離工作大概都有些安排好所以說現在是中央接手嗎沒有報告委員我們現在沒有所謂接手的部分我還是一再強調\n我們在救災尤其在中央災害應變中心的中央跟地方應該充分來合作尤其我們面對天災給我們的一個挑戰這麼大的情況之下什麼樣是最好的方式可以保全性命以及保護人民的生命財產安全應該是我們最大努力的方向你做了非常好的一個周全的準備了如果在未來就是說有另外的一個災害在進來的時候其實我們都可以有一個比較\n好的一個計畫來那個應對嗎是我們還是一樣要跟每個地方縣市政府一起來充分合作包括疏散撤離的部分就是我們要能夠精準的處理有關疏散撤離那這樣資源才不會錯置而且呢在短暫時間內所發生的這個天災其實大家都知道一定要非常迅速來處理而不是非常久的時間去溝通謝謝部長部長跟署長我想讓你們看一張圖\n一個卡通的圖片叫做萬萬對卡通這是一張很可愛的卡通\n他其實到處是伸張正義為大家解決困難那接著我要請問署長就是說其實我們知道這個全國最高的一個警察機構被跟監尤其是我們大概看得到了就是前任的那個警政署長黃明昭還有我們歷任的院長不管是陳建仁、蘇貞昌、卓榮泰甚至就是說我們的城局監察院長\n那我要問一下署長就是說如果這個政治跟監跟偷拍的爛錢的行為是不是已經啟動了一個偵辦還是說預防的一個機制我想那個署長你私底下就是來那個我的辦公室做一個報告因為現在現已就是說你們有很多積極的一個行動你也不方便在這裡跟本席做一個報告那事實上我在這裡請問那個署長\n有沒有開始啟動了\n好那對於這一些跟拍或者是偷拍如果說是涉嫌違法只要有告訴告發有立案我們一定一定會是依法來偵辦依法偵辦依法偵辦已經有人告發了有告發是已經成案了是是是我也會依法來偵辦好那就是請你再跟本席做一個比較深入的一個報告好不好謝謝謝謝謝謝謝謝主席\n好謝謝賴慧雍委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.734 --> 00:06.256\n好謝謝主席請劉世芳部長還有警政署張榮興署長請劉部長張署長兩位好委員你好非常感謝部長針對的就是在0708我的丹納斯颱風重創了我們整個台南的西北地區基本上狀況其實是很慘的\n\n00:26.929 --> 00:35.606\n那也謝謝內政部就是說聽到那個我們在求救的一個電話那馬上急派替代一支沿西北的地區\n\n00:36.482 --> 01:00.547\n如果這一次花蓮是產值超人的話其實我想這些替代藝應該就是環部超人因為真的是由西北人口老化其實我們需要很多就是比較年輕的在搶救的一個過程裡頭可是當我們需要很多年輕的一個\n\n01:01.527 --> 01:22.740\n這些替代役的官兵來協助我們的時候是不是可以跟部長討論一下救災當然需要更快可是這個救災的替代役制度化是不是可以把它有一個固定的帶面的一個編組因為那個地球的一個軟化我們可能都會面臨到很多的一個挑戰\n\n01:25.148 --> 01:41.825\n丹納斯颱風跟花蓮派出去的一個替代役其實在這個就是鼓勵上有一些不同當然就是說我們的丹納斯颱風是當天去當天回來那花蓮是住在那個地方\n\n01:43.767 --> 01:58.136\n就是丹納斯颱風他就是只有放了一天的容易價那可是那個花蓮這個還有救災的一個津貼部長有沒有機會就是我們把它那個轉為就是是一個制度化\n\n01:59.459 --> 02:26.028\n報告委員我想分成兩個層次跟委員報告一個就是現役替代役上次到這個台南嘉義去幫忙他們是現役替代役那也非常謝謝警政署長當時的現役替代役都是警大跟警專的畢業生他們等於是在受訓的期間是按照兵役法受訓的期間所以他們被派去那個地方那那個人次的到高達1500多人表現得都非常的好\n\n02:26.308 --> 02:28.610\n非常好那我們把它當成說這是他服完替代役的時候的最後一個階段的一個等於是限定的實習所以表現都非常好那這一次到花蓮縣去有兩種\n\n02:41.479 --> 03:10.876\n一個呢是現役替代役呢是由我們的役政司調動全台灣各地的替代役也就是按照兵役法他是現役的那到那邊去幫忙那包括他們住在廟宇裡面呢都會有這個帶隊的這個教官來幫忙處理這是現役的部分那被役的部分是這一次呢是全國首次有沒有機會就是讓救災的一個津貼是一個就是一個固定性的其實我要的是這樣子\n\n03:11.016 --> 03:20.827\n是報告委員是這樣子因為他們是根據兵役法所以他們現在每一天所領的這個津貼是700塊再加上有伙食津貼是150或是167左右那這個部分的給予的方式跟現在的國軍是一樣的\n\n03:28.456 --> 03:39.241\n那是不是要給他的救災津貼我覺得要來研議為什麼呢因為我們可以給他榮譽價也可以給他這方面的鼓勵救災津貼是最實際的啦我覺得要跟國軍一樣比較好國軍他們也是24小時投入我們在溝通啦私下在溝通那針對的花蓮縣政府他就是說要求取消垂直的一個撤離接下來內政部如何協助\n\n03:56.749 --> 04:25.749\n這個花蓮的鄉親這個撤離的一個計畫謝謝委員的指教我想這兩天有新的變化第一個就是風神颱風要過來那風神颱風預計也會對花蓮縣尤其是災區造成一定程度的影響所以花蓮縣政府原來他們是取消所謂的垂直撤離那經過紀連城政委這兩天的溝通所有在災區裡面的村長他們都認為垂直撤離仍然是一種方式\n\n04:26.289 --> 04:46.552\n所以紀連城政委他的才事就是變成混合你要做疏散撤離或做垂直撤離或是依親或者是有其他的收容安置這些都可以接受的方案那目前呢我們就是依村長他們所報上來的清查的保全戶的部分大概要接受疏散撤離的人大概是一千多人左右\n\n04:47.253 --> 05:04.082\n那這個部分呢包括要備備遊覽車或是您剛所提到的對於替代役要協助他們做這樣的撤離工作大概都有些安排好所以說現在是中央接手嗎沒有報告委員我們現在沒有所謂接手的部分我還是一再強調\n\n05:05.103 --> 05:32.537\n我們在救災尤其在中央災害應變中心的中央跟地方應該充分來合作尤其我們面對天災給我們的一個挑戰這麼大的情況之下什麼樣是最好的方式可以保全性命以及保護人民的生命財產安全應該是我們最大努力的方向你做了非常好的一個周全的準備了如果在未來就是說有另外的一個災害在進來的時候其實我們都可以有一個比較\n\n05:34.212 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