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00:03:07,024\n對那對於就是尤其是因為他的這個當往期不同尤其是這一些的一個假日可能就是出國後或者出境或入境的我覺得是這樣子這個人力總署也在這邊這個也不能苛責署長也不能苛責這個行警局長因為這個他也剛到任也不能這個苛責您也不能苛責內政部有時候人力的補充是\n\n8\n00:03:07,925 --> 00:03:25,137\n這個人事總署啊要跟全盤考量啊就我沒有時間問人事總署另外我另案再來請教所以我的人員必須要到位但你們可以做就是說你們安檢這個設備的提升跟委員報告就是因為上次委員在質詢的時候也要跟委員報告就是對於\n\n9\n00:03:26,539 --> 00:03:47,558\n這個各個機場的安警的這個儀器那我們現在已經跟交通部民良局會運用這些的民良作業基金來做一個徵購我們有做這樣的一個協調因為這早就該做了還不是用人工你們這個行警還要去拿因為這個儀器的部分大概都是由民良局會帶隊到世界各國去\n\n10\n00:03:48,579 --> 00:04:16,019\n参观最先进的这个仪器那我们未来采购的方式就是会全自动化的这个状况不要说我们AI大国我们半导体大国结果我们的这个安检的设备是如此落后这个我觉得要赶快把它改善是的另外就是说我们的新闻的生态媒体的生态比较特别我们这个新闻台有十几台都是24小时对不对对所以新闻主要来源我发现很多是来自于军政署我们基层远景所有的执法人员\n\n11\n00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:32,767\n他們在執行公務所佩戴的密錄器是不是執行公務執行公務它是偵查不公開它可以給媒體嗎如果是偵查不公開是不能公布的那你看你每天打開新聞台\n\n12\n00:04:34,635 --> 00:04:57,159\n幾乎都是每個分局都有他的是不是業績還是怎麼樣因為啊媒體需要素材因為他要延續他的播報他的新聞內容所以一些不是新聞的他就把他這個跟警察局同仁你來這把袋子給我你來講一下這個案情的內容這個跟公共利益沒有太大關係啊這不是資訊這不是資訊這變成查訊哇小孩子看到這些幹嘛\n\n13\n00:05:03,058 --> 00:05:17,393\n所以我覺得你們一定要管制好幾任署長我都語重心長跟你們建議可是真正的沒有改善跟委員報告我們當然就是對於這些我們通常使用微型攝影機或者是影音\n\n14\n00:05:18,874 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你沒有計劃所以我希望說最短時間之內你把這個你們的安檢器具安檢X光門要440萬但你們有沒有充分在使用我就看到是這個保全公司在使用那個安檢\n適合嗎是保全公司你如果發現S光機發現裡面有異物要再次檢查就打開是保全公司叫他去檢查這樣適合嗎那實際上應該是由我們的安檢人員來做執行是嘛所以最根據理還是人力不夠\n到今年大概有多少這個航警局的這個人力可以補充我們目前盤點大概缺272個那今年度我們已經補給他56個新支部你都人不夠這個安檢的品質就會下降因為我們這個過勞你知道航警他說哇那麼少人力要複合那麼多的工作\n對那對於就是尤其是因為他的這個當往期不同尤其是這一些的一個假日可能就是出國後或者出境或入境的我覺得是這樣子這個人力總署也在這邊這個也不能苛責署長也不能苛責這個行警局長因為這個他也剛到任也不能這個苛責您也不能苛責內政部有時候人力的補充是\n這個人事總署啊要跟全盤考量啊就我沒有時間問人事總署另外我另案再來請教所以我的人員必須要到位但你們可以做就是說你們安檢這個設備的提升跟委員報告就是因為上次委員在質詢的時候也要跟委員報告就是對於\n這個各個機場的安警的這個儀器那我們現在已經跟交通部民良局會運用這些的民良作業基金來做一個徵購我們有做這樣的一個協調因為這早就該做了還不是用人工你們這個行警還要去拿因為這個儀器的部分大概都是由民良局會帶隊到世界各國去\n参观最先进的这个仪器那我们未来采购的方式就是会全自动化的这个状况不要说我们AI大国我们半导体大国结果我们的这个安检的设备是如此落后这个我觉得要赶快把它改善是的另外就是说我们的新闻的生态媒体的生态比较特别我们这个新闻台有十几台都是24小时对不对对所以新闻主要来源我发现很多是来自于军政署我们基层远景所有的执法人员\n他們在執行公務所佩戴的密錄器是不是執行公務執行公務它是偵查不公開它可以給媒體嗎如果是偵查不公開是不能公布的那你看你每天打開新聞台\n幾乎都是每個分局都有他的是不是業績還是怎麼樣因為啊 媒體需要素材因為他要延續他的播報他的新聞內容所以一些不是新聞的他就把他這個跟警察局同仁你來這把袋子給我你來講一下這個案情的內容這個跟公共利益沒有太大關係啊這不是資訊這不是資訊 這變成查訊哇 小孩子看到這些幹嘛\n所以我覺得你們一定要管制好幾任署長我都語重心長跟你們建議可是真正的沒有改善跟委員報告我們當然就是對於這些我們通常使用微型攝影機或者是影音\n就是有設置的保管的一個一個保存的一個管理要點那我們對於這一些是不是因為公共利益啦或者是這一些比較讓大家注意到提醒的這些的影帶應該都要由分局長或通緝主管我跟蘇長一天大概有十幾折都是各縣市警察局各分局提供的這些影帶我們我們我們盡量你們查處你們查處違規很有限地方員警有他的壓力\n但是你們如果中央律例很清楚這個就是偵查部公開的範圍就不能外洩不能提供給媒體這個一定要嚴格要求這個部分我們會嚴格要求但是我希望有一個新聞都報導一些正面的新聞\n而不是那些跟公共利益沒有相關那些不應該在新聞媒體上出現的那些都是你們偵查不公開範圍裡面所遠景密錄器的內容這個我覺得我是蠻心痛的這個一直我們會 這個部分會來加強來做一個監看跟要求我做理會做十四年 我說要十年這都沒改善我來精進\n好嗎?好,謝謝我另外那個海軍組長署長喂,好那個災害防救法第30條的規定如果地方政府災害發生的時候你要劃定警戒的區域那個部分是由這個地方政府來執行還是由海軍組來執行?比如說海岸區\n這個跟委員報告這個分兩個部分來說明第一個部分就是中央災害應變中心成立的時候那還有一位是進駐的單位那是接受這個中央災害應變中心指揮官的指揮然後下令執行相關的這些救災的事務\n另外在地方政府成立災民中心的時候那是基於這個行政執行碼裡面的相關的協助事項我們是在協助事項的範圍裡面假設地方政府他應該劃定警戒區域他不劃定那你海巡署有沒有可以直接跳過地方政府直接去劃定\n我們根據我們的執行的權責我們會看現場的狀況如果是有機動工安全的部分因為有些地方政府這個良幼不起他也是狀況不明狀況搞不清楚該劃定他就沒有去劃定該這個該疏散沒有去疏散該撤離沒撤離\n我們現在在執行上面就是有我們預知預警就是看到有災害發生的時候我們會預警性的去提醒這個民眾不要接近你們要嚴格要求地方政府確實的按照這個災變中心所要求的事項你們要嚴格要求地方政府去執行\n跟委包我們會建議地方政府去做要不要公告這災那個那個警戒區域我們會建議他那地方政府如果沒有接受但是我們會基於公安安全我們會第一時間去跟民眾講說這是危險的會禁止民眾去接近危險區域好謝謝謝謝署長謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.816 --> 00:07.958\n好謝主席有請警政署張署長海巡署張署長請兩位署長委員好署長一直關心國境的安全所以國境安全跟安檢的品質有關係品質又牽涉到人力跟它的素質跟專業所以一定要由國家的公務人員特別是由公權力行使\n\n00:29.454 --> 00:52.654\n所以行警很重要他負責所有出國旅客的安全如果一有任何散失造成人民生命財產巨大損失所以安檢是非常重要的一個環節所以第一個你能力不夠專業態度還要再加強所以部分我希望說一定要具體的作為在最短時間之內\n\n00:54.071 --> 01:16.368\n讓人民有感本席也常常會有這種感覺出國我都提心吊膽有時候為什麼提心吊膽因為我覺得安檢不夠跟其他國家比較起來不夠到位相對的安檢的器材也比較比其他國家我覺得是亞洲倒數第一\n\n01:17.898 --> 01:46.678\n我們是AI大國半導體大國你的這個安檢的這個設備還要人去扛那個行李這說不過去不是沒有錢是你沒有規劃你沒有計劃所以我希望說最短時間之內你把這個你們的安檢器具安檢X光門要440萬但你們有沒有充分在使用我就看到是這個保全公司在使用那個安檢\n\n01:48.724 --> 02:11.861\n適合嗎是保全公司你如果發現S光機發現裡面有異物要再次檢查就打開是保全公司叫他去檢查這樣適合嗎那實際上應該是由我們的安檢人員來做執行是嘛所以最根據理還是人力不夠\n\n02:13.666 --> 02:36.691\n到今年大概有多少這個航警局的這個人力可以補充我們目前盤點大概缺272個那今年度我們已經補給他56個新支部你都人不夠這個安檢的品質就會下降因為我們這個過勞你知道航警他說哇那麼少人力要複合那麼多的工作\n\n02:38.594 --> 03:07.024\n對那對於就是尤其是因為他的這個當往期不同尤其是這一些的一個假日可能就是出國後或者出境或入境的我覺得是這樣子這個人力總署也在這邊這個也不能苛責署長也不能苛責這個行警局長因為這個他也剛到任也不能這個苛責您也不能苛責內政部有時候人力的補充是\n\n03:07.925 --> 03:25.137\n這個人事總署啊要跟全盤考量啊就我沒有時間問人事總署另外我另案再來請教所以我的人員必須要到位但你們可以做就是說你們安檢這個設備的提升跟委員報告就是因為上次委員在質詢的時候也要跟委員報告就是對於\n\n03:26.539 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