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00:02:33,884\n不好意思你說什麼我們應該應該要去注意這個事情沒有錯那是不是因為應該由雲安會主動來將這些像是德力卡這款車目前我們可以看到因為教育部也有統計全台現行有3000輛的幼童專用車人在營運平均的車齡也超過10年如果這些車輛安全性不足的話一旦發生事故後果不堪設想雲安會是不是應該要主動點積極一點呢主委我們應該要提出改善建議我們這個案子應該要更深入什麼時候可以提出\n\n7\n00:02:37,535 --> 00:03:01,728\n特別針對這個幼童專用車還有這類的高風險用途車輛跟委員報告那我們在這個竹藏鄉公所112年這個案子那調查完之後我們有已經有給這個交通部改善建議了那建議交通部可以參考這個國際的做法延提提升我國幼童專用專用車的一個安全性\n\n8\n00:03:02,228 --> 00:03:17,914\n那目前這個報告公佈以後那依據這個我們的調查法那在請已經在請交通部再提這個針對我們趕緊提這個具體的計畫那交通部也提了一個具體提出一個計畫只是說我們認為說他的內容不夠具體是交通部什麼時候提出的\n\n9\n00:03:18,582 --> 00:03:46,152\n交通部的話他是在8月底的時候提出來我們在5月底的時候發布調查報告那依法他們90天要提出所以他們在8月底提出那在9月中的時候我們認為他的內容不夠具體所以請他針對說他們要針對這個幼童專用車車輛安全檢測基準強化的部分我們希望他針對強化的具體目標能夠在計畫內容再描述的更清楚一點所以目前在等這個交通部再重提計畫給我們\n\n10\n00:03:46,752 --> 00:04:01,496\n所以院會這邊已經有建議交通部將像是這樣的車款像這樣子的車款要主動的來做分級嗎有沒有來去就是說要主動的來去做分級我們是針對整說是我們我們不是針對一個車子而是針對說幼童專用車\n\n11\n00:04:03,317 --> 00:04:18,024\n幼童專用車如果任何要成為幼童專用車的車輛他的安全檢測的這個基準怎麼樣去提升這個部分提感恩建議給這個交通部這是我們在這個竹塘的這個117年的報告裡面所提出來的感恩建議\n\n12\n00:04:18,527 --> 00:04:31,865\nOK好謝謝那主委再來針對因為安會晉級也公佈了自己陽梅服務區閘道事故的調查報告中也就是剛才黃國昌委員提到的那揭露嚴重的設計還有施工落差問題那調查也指出該閘道設計的圖標它的標準\n\n13\n00:04:33,507 --> 00:04:49,324\n高市半徑1000公尺但實際你們測得的只有350到850公尺還有分隔島的B端距離只有33公尺遠低於交通部最小安全距離90公尺請教主委這樣的誤差是工程的容忍值嗎這個誤差\n\n14\n00:04:53,590 --> 00:05:15,690\n就說我剛剛報告的我們的我們的空拍機無人機的空拍的這個精密度比較高啦所以所以你們只有用空拍機再去做現場做測量嗎對我們有次現場去做量測那這是工程的容忍值嗎還是是你們整是這個工程整體的建造還有驗收機制有嚴重的瑕疵這個要是\n\n15\n00:05:19,844 --> 00:05:40,316\n跟委員來報告那就是說我們的調查就是把現況去指出來那因為那個驗收跟竣工的部分是由主辦單位主委你知道三年內剛剛如果你有認真聽的話三年內發生了幾起的事故14件14起那造成了幾死幾傷你知道嗎好像是5死5死\n\n16\n00:05:44,423 --> 00:06:07,190\n是造成的事實事實上那發生在今年的1月25號那您剛才也有說到陸續又發生陸續是什麼時候前天晚上又發生一件前天晚上是昨天昨天又發生了陽梅的這個休息站它又撞了所以不是所以從1月到昨天運安會調查之後告訴也請次長\n\n17\n00:06:08,806 --> 00:06:18,603\n就是雲南會開始調查之後又發生了三件又發生了三件那這邊我們交通部有沒有做你們剛有提到優化嗎到底是什麼樣的優化中間有做什麼樣的處置\n\n18\n00:06:20,852 --> 00:06:41,168\n我想跟委員報告我們現在大概剛講的針對應安會他有一些建議我們針對這些建議我們分三個階段來進行優化從大概從10月底我們來進行第一個短期的昨天又撞了所以10月底才要進行優化嗎對因為這個因為這是之前我們已經排了啦也沒辦法看也沒辦法再提前\n\n19\n00:06:43,710 --> 00:07:10,775\n那根據公警局的筆錄的資料就他們提供的資料那駕駛是有是有開啟自駕是有開啟自駕那從我們看到的影片他的行為是開啟自駕然後因為每一次都是因為開啟自駕發生事故嗎應該不是吧\n\n20\n00:07:14,925 --> 00:07:31,861\n不是因為從111年1月30號然後到沒有算昨天到114年5月30號我們先看到10月10號四死不好意思四傷一死然後他的第一個撞擊點是分隔倒鼻端我們從這個分隔倒鼻端來看\n\n21\n00:07:32,561 --> 00:07:42,666\n是111年10月10號還有10月27號也是因為分隔倒鼻端那還有112年8月25號也是因為分隔倒鼻端還有112年11月25號也都是從114年今年到今年1月25號44傷這一起然後到5月30號都是分隔倒鼻端的問題所以不是因為設計不良的關係嗎\n\n22\n00:08:00,048 --> 00:08:07,059\n跟委員報告設計的部分它有一定的設計標準那這個部分因為它是設計速率是60\n\n23\n00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:30,091\n那主線那邊設計設計速率是100有開過這條路的人或是就是到陽梅休息站的駕駛者他們都說有問題只有交通部說沒有問題那很多車輛也因為他的轉彎過急然後失控如果今天不是因為運安會揭露的話所以根本沒有辦法無從得知啊其實這個設計跟竣工圖他是不服然後還驗收\n\n24\n00:08:32,830 --> 00:08:48,402\n那我們也看到三個問題第一個問題設計變更沒有公開透明的機制第二個驗收也沒進行現場的地線比對第三個沒有第三方的審查跟安全驗證所以次長什麼時候可以進行改善\n\n25\n00:08:53,151 --> 00:09:03,804\n我們大概另外會再找社安中心其他的我們來做一些看有什麼樣的工程可以來做改善工程我們預計大概11月可以來完成\n\n26\n00:09:05,603 --> 00:09:25,974\n請教主委一個問題那這段期間你們有沒有就是要叫中部就是臨時有沒有臨時的警示措施就如同剛剛講的我們要他檢視行車動線叫他檢視這個集合道路要跟他馬上所謂安全通告就是你要立即做這個叫做安全通告要不然要等到我們最終報告出來太反不及急\n\n27\n00:09:28,125 --> 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01:08.816\n不知道沒關係我們先我們來看簡報就是圖片上這台TownS那這一台豐田的TownS在測試在撞擊的測試結果他沒有獲得任何一顆星那這一款那這一款車呢在TNCV的平等制度下得到零顆星的車款那本席也特別注意到因為\n\n01:08.916 --> 01:36.369\n那會在今年五月份的時候有公布彰化縣竹塘鄉公所誘惑專用車的事故報告裡面有指出國內百分之九十九點九的幼童專用車都是有結構類似這款豐田TownS的車款的其中的他另外一個牌子中華山林的德力卡改裝的他是通用也是商用的改裝車輛那該款德力卡他的底牌設計老舊而且他的主被動安全\n\n01:36.829 --> 02:02.202\n配備都不足那多數也都沒有側撞都沒有都沒有側撞的氣囊也沒有車身的穩定系統那主委既然TNCP都已經揭露部分商用車的安全他的等級都是偏低的那是不是應該由運安會來主動的將改裝的基底用車納入評測的這個我們應該要去收集資料\n\n02:04.309 --> 02:33.884\n不好意思你說什麼我們應該應該要去注意這個事情沒有錯那是不是因為應該由雲安會主動來將這些像是德力卡這款車目前我們可以看到因為教育部也有統計全台現行有3000輛的幼童專用車人在營運平均的車齡也超過10年如果這些車輛安全性不足的話一旦發生事故後果不堪設想雲安會是不是應該要主動點積極一點呢主委我們應該要提出改善建議我們這個案子應該要更深入什麼時候可以提出\n\n02:37.535 --> 03:01.728\n特別針對這個幼童專用車還有這類的高風險用途車輛跟委員報告那我們在這個竹藏鄉公所112年這個案子那調查完之後我們有已經有給這個交通部改善建議了那建議交通部可以參考這個國際的做法延提提升我國幼童專用專用車的一個安全性\n\n03:02.228 --> 03:17.914\n那目前這個報告公佈以後那依據這個我們的調查法那在請已經在請交通部再提這個針對我們趕緊提這個具體的計畫那交通部也提了一個具體提出一個計畫只是說我們認為說他的內容不夠具體是交通部什麼時候提出的\n\n03:18.582 --> 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