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00:01:52,242\n那這個盜用帳號是駭客以他的小朋友要參加比賽為理由那要求我們幫忙上網投票那記得連結給我我們想說我們這裡有實際的朋友比較現場就是小孩他小孩老婆老婆的希望小孩比賽得獎我們就去盜三天因為這樣操作之後整個帳號被盜用甚至綁架我們完全沒有辦法登錄完全沒有辦法登錄\n\n7\n00:02:02,611 --> 00:02:17,788\n那當之後他就開始用這個帳號寄給我所有LINE的好友那當時我只能做的就是說除了包案以外趕快就是在臉書上公告啦或用我自己的簡訊通知所有的好朋友啦還有就是發動我身邊的朋友趕快去檢舉這個帳號趕快讓他停權齁那\n\n8\n00:02:23,884 --> 00:02:42,315\n這個過程裡面讓我發現一些很有趣的事情就是今天即便我本人被冒帳我發現了我用很快的時間去檢舉那透過官方的方式去通報它的效率非常慢我這次的經驗是我今天通報到隔天中午原本的帳號才被停權你要想像這麼長的時間他透過這個時間去騙了多少的人\n\n9\n00:02:47,615 --> 00:03:03,974\n如果我們身為立法院透過我們身邊這麼多有經驗的人去檢舉都要花這麼長的時間才會下架那一般的民眾他大概用多長的時間甚至有些人可能他都不知道那我想這段時間就是阻止詐騙最好的黃金時期\n\n10\n00:03:04,955 --> 00:03:26,628\n我們盡快的讓這些盜用帳號停權它是不是就可以減少被有民眾被騙的這個機率是不是這樣是沒錯所以如果說這些不管是帳號訊息各方面的這些訊息那在這個主管的網路廣告平台這個第一個一定是要下降或停止解析對但是時間太久你一天沒錢真的太久了\n\n11\n00:03:29,089 --> 00:03:54,618\n我跟委員部說我們想你要第一時間就去網路的主管機關就要停止解析那這個可能他們單位這個作業的這個流程我們這邊的速度一定是即時我們未來就是對於這些主管的網路網絡平台包括就是蘇華部的我們可能就是在這個打造的一個團隊裡面會來做加強的一個要求\n\n12\n00:03:55,218 --> 00:04:15,338\n對這個就是待會兒本席要跟署長討論到的建議我們在這一次注意到我們行政院卓院長在今年8月他的打詐專報告裡面有特別提到政府也要強化數位源頭的管理防制詐騙的資訊有三點嘛對不對第一個就是要發展AI人工智慧透過這個掃描平台啦社群平台主動判斷\n\n13\n00:04:16,159 --> 00:04:39,075\n是不是假帳號社群或粉絲團然後要求他停權關閉那第二個是要求相關業者建置這個防治的計畫在國內配置這個防止詐騙的專責人員嘛那強化源頭的管理落實自律的機制第三個就是在網路詐騙通報的查詢欄裡面提供民眾即使可以追蹤可以回應的防詐工具這是我們\n\n14\n00:04:39,915 --> 00:04:59,189\n主委長在我們這次八月份的早上我還在說的但本市坦白講本市在這次的新生經驗裡面還有許多民眾的反應來說效果真的很不明顯我當時我跟我身邊的朋友都填了這些資料了剩下剩下那填不下怎樣剩下剩蛋糧有無止境你不知道什麼時候才會停因為\n\n15\n00:05:00,553 --> 00:05:29,893\n我們其實都很相信第一線人員都很辛苦因為其實當時去報案的時候我們的檢管也很辛苦但是我想這個還是要跟官方跟這個民間業者要密切的合作啦那本市長今天建議的是以這個冒名章來說我們應該要求本國應該要求社群平台要為台灣提供一個民眾檢舉快速反應的明確的窗口像是AI或是人工客服都可以那透過像是實名制的這個認證的機制把它檢舉下架\n\n16\n00:05:31,514 --> 00:05:39,302\n讓被盜用者本人可以趕快加速檢舉這個檢舉的速度透過實名制讓這些假帳號經過那因為\n\n17\n00:05:41,827 --> 00:06:00,859\n對於這樣的這個冒名的假帳號如果都交給警方來處理雖然我重申啦我們第一線在這幾層的警務人員都不用喊他啦我跟您講我覺得事務部那有設一個反詐的一個這些受理的平台對啊因為不是只有警方的165啦是因為雖然我我的意思是說我們一報名就一定是到判處所還是判處所那裡去檢舉嘛\n\n18\n00:06:03,780 --> 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署長\n市長今天那個專案報告內容有盤點了全國目前的這個治安的狀況我們警政署還特別強調這個打詐成效那根據我們這個警政署報告裡面指出詐欺犯罪仍然是目前高居台灣的犯罪守衛從去年九月到今年八月我們全部刑署案件總共是六十四萬七千五七千九百件其中我們詐欺案件佔二十二萬四千兩百九十件\n它佔整體的刑事案件的將近35%比例相當高那根據這個全球防詐聯盟發布的今年的這個亞洲詐騙調查報告有72%的台灣民眾曾經遇過詐騙那其中有13%因為詐騙遭受到金錢的損失這個比例非常的高的可怕那根據這個數據 意思說有10個人 詐騙一段每接觸10個人就有可能有一個人會上當受騙難怪我們詐騙會越來越猖獗\n那你在這份報告裡面也有特別提到台灣民眾最常遇到的詐騙說法像是購物啦 冒名啦 還是那個欺騙感情啦 這種的最多那其中這個60%的民眾遇過冒名的詐騙這個代表現在詐騙集團他不僅是亂槍打鳥\n而且他也擅長利用人性的這個弱點讓民眾防不勝防這也是本席今天要跟蘇中討論的重點因為本席就是受害者我本身就遇到這件事情在今年七月的時候因為朋友的那個LINE的帳號被盜用\n那這個盜用帳號是駭客以他的小朋友要參加比賽為理由那要求我們幫忙上網投票那記得連結給我我們想說我們這裡有實際的朋友 比較現場就是小孩他小孩老婆老婆的希望小孩比賽得獎 我們就去盜三天因為這樣 操作之後整個帳號被盜用 甚至綁架我們完全沒有辦法登錄 完全沒有辦法登錄\n那當之後他就開始用這個帳號寄給我所有LINE的好友那當時我只能做的就是說除了包案以外趕快就是在臉書上公告啦或用我自己的簡訊通知所有的好朋友啦還有就是發動我身邊的朋友趕快去檢舉這個帳號趕快讓他停權齁那\n這個過程裡面讓我發現一些很有趣的事情就是今天即便我本人被冒帳我發現了我用很快的時間去檢舉那透過官方的方式去通報它的效率非常慢我這次的經驗是我今天通報到隔天中午原本的帳號才被停權你要想像這麼長的時間他透過這個時間去騙了多少的人\n如果我們身為立法院透過我們身邊這麼多有經驗的人去檢舉都要花這麼長的時間才會下架那一般的民眾他大概用多長的時間甚至有些人可能他都不知道那我想這段時間就是阻止詐騙最好的黃金時期\n我們盡快的讓這些盜用帳號停權它是不是就可以減少被有民眾被騙的這個機率是不是這樣是 沒錯所以如果說這些不管是帳號訊息各方面的這些訊息那在這個主管的網路廣告平台這個第一個一定是要下降或停止解析對 但是時間太久你一天沒錢真的太久了\n我跟委員部說 我們想你要第一時間就去網路的主管機關就要停止解析那這個可能他們單位這個作業的這個流程我們這邊的速度一定是即時我們未來就是對於這些主管的網路網絡平台包括就是蘇華部的我們可能就是在這個打造的一個團隊裡面會來做加強的一個要求\n對 這個就是待會兒本席要跟署長討論到的建議我們在這一次注意到我們行政院卓院長在今年8月他的打詐專報告裡面有特別提到政府也要強化數位源頭的管理防制詐騙的資訊有三點嘛 對不對第一個就是要發展AI人工智慧透過這個掃描平台啦 社群平台主動判斷\n是不是假帳號 社群或粉絲團然後要求他停權 關閉那第二個是要求相關業者建置這個防治的計畫在國內配置這個防止詐騙的專責人員嘛那強化源頭的管理 落實自律的機制第三個就是在網路詐騙通報的查詢欄裡面提供民眾即使可以追蹤可以回應的防詐工具 這是我們\n主委長在我們這次八月份的早上我還在說的但本市坦白講本市在這次的新生經驗裡面還有許多民眾的反應來說效果真的很不明顯我當時我跟我身邊的朋友都填了這些資料了剩下剩下那填不下怎樣剩下剩蛋糧有無止境你不知道什麼時候才會停因為\n我們其實都很相信 第一線人員都很辛苦因為其實當時去報案的時候 我們的檢管也很辛苦但是我想這個還是要跟官方跟這個民間業者要密切的合作啦那本市長今天建議的是以這個冒名章來說 我們應該要求本國應該要求社群平台要為台灣提供一個民眾檢舉快速反應的明確的窗口像是AI或是人工客服都可以那透過像是實名制的這個認證的機制把它檢舉下架\n讓被盜用者本人可以趕快加速檢舉這個檢舉的速度透過實名制讓這些假帳號經過那因為\n對於這樣的這個冒名的假帳號 如果都交給警方來處理 雖然我重申啦 我們第一線在這幾層的警務人員都不用喊他啦我跟您講 我覺得事務部那有設一個反詐的一個這些受理的平台對啊 因為不是只有警方的165啦是 因為雖然我 我的意思是說 我們一報名就一定是到判處所 還是判處所那裡去檢舉嘛\n這個會增加我們基層員警很大很大的勤務他工作就很多所以本席是這樣的建議請署長是不是可以來跟來研議這樣子跟民間業者來討論就是說督促他們這些社群平台要有這樣的一個通報機制那這個部分署長覺得怎麼樣那我們會協同主管機關的事務部共同來解決這個問題\n好 謝謝署長 署長這個會後也希望檢證署針對我提出的這幾項建議盡速的跟臉書啊LINE啊等等這些平台來溝通在兩個禮拜內提供一份報告給本席的辦公室好 好 謝謝感謝署長 署長謝謝謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.430 --> 00:02.475\n謝謝召委我們請我們緊任署長署長我們請署長歡迎好署長\n\n00:10.376 --> 00:37.226\n市長今天那個專案報告內容有盤點了全國目前的這個治安的狀況我們警政署還特別強調這個打詐成效那根據我們這個警政署報告裡面指出詐欺犯罪仍然是目前高居台灣的犯罪守衛從去年九月到今年八月我們全部刑署案件總共是六十四萬七千五七千九百件其中我們詐欺案件佔二十二萬四千兩百九十件\n\n00:37.810 --> 00:59.795\n它佔整體的刑事案件的將近35%比例相當高那根據這個全球防詐聯盟發布的今年的這個亞洲詐騙調查報告有72%的台灣民眾曾經遇過詐騙那其中有13%因為詐騙遭受到金錢的損失這個比例非常的高的可怕那根據這個數據意思說有10個人詐騙一段每接觸10個人就有可能有一個人會上當受騙難怪我們詐騙會越來越猖獗\n\n01:06.363 --> 01:21.540\n那你在這份報告裡面也有特別提到台灣民眾最常遇到的詐騙說法像是購物啦冒名啦還是那個欺騙感情啦這種的最多那其中這個60%的民眾遇過冒名的詐騙這個代表現在詐騙集團他不僅是亂槍打鳥\n\n01:23.843 --> 01:39.130\n而且他也擅長利用人性的這個弱點讓民眾防不勝防這也是本席今天要跟蘇中討論的重點因為本席就是受害者我本身就遇到這件事情在今年七月的時候因為朋友的那個LINE的帳號被盜用\n\n01:39.790 --> 01:52.242\n那這個盜用帳號是駭客以他的小朋友要參加比賽為理由那要求我們幫忙上網投票那記得連結給我我們想說我們這裡有實際的朋友比較現場就是小孩他小孩老婆老婆的希望小孩比賽得獎我們就去盜三天因為這樣操作之後整個帳號被盜用甚至綁架我們完全沒有辦法登錄完全沒有辦法登錄\n\n02:02.611 --> 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