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00:02:30,240\n9個公司所以我們要講的是這9家涉案的台灣公司有8家登記在同一個地址這個地址大家很熟悉我們知名的歌手周杰倫他們家和平大院就有11戶他有11戶在這裡\n\n8\n00:02:32,862 --> 00:02:47,634\n一個沒有生產活動沒有營業額的空殼公司集團可以在台灣坐擁11戶的豪宅請問這麼明顯的洗錢特徵請問我們的警示系統在哪裡\n\n9\n00:02:49,826 --> 00:03:17,716\n警政署法務部都沒有警覺嗎因為這是110年前110年之前的所以你們的理由是這樣那我們就覺得難怪難怪台灣會成為詐騙集團的洗錢天堂我們這個詐騙的首腦他高調的炫富把豪宅當作什麼像我們在菜市場買菜一樣這樣在買結果我們完全沒有警示系統\n\n10\n00:03:18,871 --> 00:03:27,985\n那洗錢防治辦公室也完全不知不覺我不知道台灣的金融與商業監督是否形同虛設今天相關單位也沒來\n\n11\n00:03:29,510 --> 00:03:48,989\n那我接著問你們既然說那這是110年前我現在接著想問那現在太子集團首腦陳志你也知道這個人他在台灣的資產有9間公司11間豪宅你們打算怎麼處分這些不法資產\n\n12\n00:03:49,912 --> 00:04:06,184\n那跟委包這個案我們已經報請地檢署在做指揮偵辦當中那到底怎麼處置這些不法資產未來如果有涉嫌犯罪當然是會做查扣如果有涉嫌到犯罪所以你們到現在還認為他這11間豪宅這9間公司我們全國民眾都在想他能夠買這些豪宅\n\n13\n00:04:15,231 --> 00:04:41,843\n是不是都是这个诈骗我们台湾人的钱啊那我跟委员报告就是说我们会跟那个要三十几亿的和平大院啊我跟委员报告我们会跟美方联系到这个整个犯罪事证的连结如果说是属于涉案的所以你们是要乖乖等美国来处理不是要看事证连结啦事证连结有没有连结在一起还是你们在等诈骗集团他把房子卖了你们才要处理不会啦可能会做这个紧急的处分啦\n\n14\n00:04:43,449 --> 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