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00:00:34,739\n主委委員長主委今年的台灣的基因狀況還不錯啦特別是但上半年的部分表現相當的強勁那現在大家預估在今年的基因成長率大概是3到5之間那主委你們的評估呢\n\n3\n00:00:35,299 --> 00:01:00,677\n我覺得要過五也蠻有機會的因為像中金院的話都預估到5.45那一般來講我對中金院的預估的了解通常會比較保守一些對所以中金院估到5.45所以今年的經濟成長率其實是相當強勁應該是不錯那五的話其實是非常亮麗的表現不管是在亞洲四小龍或在全世界來看這都是一個非常亮眼的表現\n\n4\n00:01:01,698 --> 00:01:26,393\n所以特別在上半年下半年因為現在還在涉及到跟台美之間的談判但是這個如果是五的話過五的話這個有考慮到了接下來十月份有可能發一萬元這樣的一個因素進去了嗎中晉園他們是有把這個已經把巴納進去了然後是會射算在那一個消費這一塊對所以他也會帶動整個消費跟刺激所以對經濟成長率還是會成長\n\n5\n00:01:27,273 --> 00:01:43,496\n說明期待啦齁那今年的五的話這樣看起來應該是樂觀去看待會過五啦齁那這是非常亮眼的成績啦齁那接下來明年度呢明年步現在看起來主委的看法呢有沒有機會但可能不會像今年這麼的漂亮啦齁\n\n6\n00:01:45,256 --> 00:02:04,073\n明年的話主計出預估是2.81那其他國外的機構大概預估大概在2.6左右那我個人的看法是說明年的話因為今年的基期比較高所以相對的就是在出口這一塊的話可能那個數字不會像今年這麼好看那投資的話那個動能都還在\n\n7\n00:02:04,733 --> 00:02:33,796\n那也是因為今年的基期比較高所以那個數字上面來講的話可能會往下掉一些明年的那一個經濟成長動能應該會來自消費這一塊所以消費我們還蠻樂觀就是說消費明年的話假如說搭配比如說像高雄這種演唱會經濟學的話經濟的話我想應該明年的消費應該會不錯然後整個股市的話也希望能夠持續今年的一個融解那會帶動所謂的所謂的財富消費\n\n8\n00:02:34,056 --> 00:02:51,249\n對今年的股市或是出口或者是內需的整個狀況都相當的良好啦但明明我們希望持續那主委我們還是要設定一個好一點的目標嘛希望還是以寶山為過山為一個目標嘛對朝這個方向就是總是設定一個目標我們朝一個方向去做努力啦\n\n9\n00:02:52,089 --> 00:03:05,625\n也期盼明年有很好的成績啦我想執政其實就是希望給人民更多的這個不管是他的經濟上面或者收益上更好的一個狀況希望整個團隊是持續的努力來往這個方向推進\n\n10\n00:03:06,846 --> 00:03:32,363\n再來現在賴總統其實也提到了包括國發這邊AI的新十大建設我認為這個也很重要包括這段時間以來從我們過去的半導體到現在的AI的產業我們都持續大力推那我也認為現在這個時間點來推從AI去推一個新十大建設來整個帶動未來的台灣的整個長遠發展我認為很重要我們希望打造未來更多的護國群山\n\n11\n00:03:33,143 --> 00:03:56,209\n那我看到裡面有非常多的一些重要政策我也都很認同那高雄的部分其實在過去從九年前我不斷的倡議5GIoT的創新園區到後來蔡總統賴總統支持的雅灣這個雅灣的園區雅灣智慧科技創新園區171的投入那未來的部分這十大建設裡面\n\n12\n00:03:57,829 --> 00:04:19,347\n會持續的在高雄持續加碼做更多的投資跟支持嗎會會會在這一個部分來講的話我們也有跟那個高雄市政府就高雄市政府其實有來提案就是說是不是能夠把那個雅灣大算力放到那個新AI四大建設裡面那這個部分我們會所以雅灣的雅灣的計畫裡面有被放進來新十大建設裡面對我們會\n\n13\n00:04:20,488 --> 00:04:31,277\n因為重振過去以來這些的機會多不住在北部但是從這幾年你看不管是惠達AMD或等等其實包括大亞灣包括我們剛剛講的亞灣智慧科技創新研究院投了170億其實這個是非常具有潛力的一個地點所以我也希望國發會整合包括國科會包括經濟部包括各部會的力量持續的能夠對高雄的亞灣做更多的支持我認為這個對於均衡南北會很重要而且\n\n14\n00:04:49,292 --> 00:05:16,650\n高雄的港景高雄的這個人才的培育高雄的這些基礎建設等等我認為都是一個很大的一個厚實的一個基礎啦那主委要不要講一下未來會有哪些的計畫有可能會座落在高雄的未來的一些計畫部分的話就我看一下我這邊看一下跟高雄有什麼會有哪些計畫譬如說像那個剛剛有提到那個雅灣智慧科學創意園區嘛那另外一個我們會有一些\n\n15\n00:05:21,186 --> 00:05:33,620\n沒關係主委回去盤點一下一個禮拜的時間給我啦好不好給我一下更具體的一些要投入的部分我也希望更清楚的看到那也彙整一下各部會的意見包括經濟部國科會的意見讓我們看到這樣的\n\n16\n00:05:36,102 --> 00:05:58,433\n這個投資不是只有集中在北部而已而是中南部都會被重視到跟支持好不好那裡面其中有兩項是跟國國發會職業相關的包括人才的應用跟前億的創投基金資金的部分包括區域的AI的區域均衡發展這一塊我都希望國發會自己主導的要更加重視特別是\n\n17\n00:05:59,233 --> 00:06:28,084\n人才的部分這塊人才培育確實相當重要的工作我也希望能夠更具體的一些落實的做法進來那包括創投的基金過去創投基金基本上我也執行過歷任的很多的國發會主委大概都還是北部多南部少我希望這塊未來能夠持續的加重南部的力道給予他們更多的輔導跟支持跟協助讓他們有更多爭取到更多這些創投的基金來整個讓南部整個市場更加活絡\n\n18\n00:06:29,184 --> 00:06:55,915\n請主委要很有意識的往南部去思考因為南部的這個聚落需要政府更大力的支持才有辦法去推動起來好謝謝那再來我請教一下其實高雄有第一個已經成立了建立了主權AI的城市包括它有智慧高雄的AI燈塔計畫這個部分會納入到整個新十大建設裡面嗎AI的新十大建設嗎\n\n19\n00:06:58,622 --> 00:07:13,235\n這個好像在上個禮拜雅萬指導委員會有討論這件事情有要納進去嗎我們會持續的去我希望主委支持啦好不好就是說智慧高雄的這個AI燈塔計畫納入到了AI的新十大建設裡面這也是一個\n\n20\n00:07:14,095 --> 00:07:40,674\n整合了地方的政府的意見整體出來的好不好我希望諸委大力來協助推動就是很多的建設絕對是建基在跟中央地方的合作的基礎之上這個才有辦法才落實那包括其實高雄的港口包括高雄的電力石化鋼鐵造船等等其都是強項我也希望未來這些都能夠在整體上面得到更多的一些思考就是AI絕對不是\n\n21\n00:07:41,854 --> 00:07:58,067\n他必須要建基在我們的很多基礎強項的一些產業上面推動他會有更達到更好的一些成效那剛提到不管是我們的鋼鐵石化電力造船其實都是高雄的強項我們希望他透過更多的AI智慧的這一塊的投入之後來達到更好的一個效果\n\n22\n00:07:58,727 --> 00:08:21,839\n希望這塊整體都納入那當然我們期待的是未來亞灣剛講到的大亞灣這樣的計畫能夠整個納入到整體的推動這個AI十大產業裡面其實把亞灣整體思考進來這一段這幾天的高雄市的粉紅色的這個Blackpink其實讓大家感受到確實高雄的企圖心跟魄力是相當強的那我們也希望\n\n23\n00:08:22,539 --> 00:08:42,641\n這些能夠未來透過更多的政府的支持讓整個一個港灣城市大亞灣的建設能夠得到全台灣全世界的高度關注好不好這請主委持續重視最後再提一個也是跟剛剛有關的創業天使投資方案我還是要強調我每次都問每一個主委這個一樣台北\n\n24\n00:08:43,402 --> 00:09:10,144\n拿到了176家總共金額25而高雄只有14家啦你看新竹都還有13台中13然後台南13其實這個台北一個就獨拿了176所以我還是要提醒北部真的佔有相當強大的一個優勢包括連新北市都拿到了35我希望足為要很有意識的去支持中南部的這個創業的天使的投資方案好不好\n\n25\n00:09:10,384 --> 00:09:31,032\n我每次都會問也每次都會講我希望要有具體的成果我希望很快至少看到至少要佔比比如說五分之一個比例落實在南部的地方好不好我希望有一些指數去看到國發會努力的成果要不然佔的比例其實相當低啦在這邊也請委員幫忙就是說我們有一個計畫叫做創業綻放啦\n\n26\n00:09:32,392 --> 00:09:52,537\n那各六都的那個報名的比例也是呈現雙北比較高中央比較低這個請委員多多幫忙這個已經長久存在一些狀況所以我說的是需要國防外更多的去協助他們可能不一定知道怎麼提案也不一定知道怎麼去怎麼樣得到協助所以要有更多的輔導團去\n\n27\n00:09:54,197 --> 00:10:13,235\n到中部到南部去協助他們更多的提案他們如果他們知道有這些資源也好的運用的時候他們其實多數人是願意運用的那其實需要政府花更多力氣去協助他們不管是寫計畫或者輔導他們或者是去提出更好的一些方案出來我覺得政府的力道要再加大一點點好嗎好請主委重視這個問題好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n340\t11037\t請做詢答好 謝謝召委然後請葉主委我們再請葉主委\n16789\t34739\t主委 委員長 主委今年的台灣的基因狀況還不錯啦特別是但上半年的部分表現相當的強勁那現在大家預估在今年的基因成長率大概是3到5之間那主委你們的評估呢\n35299\t60677\t我覺得要過五也蠻有機會的因為像中金院的話都預估到5.45那一般來講我對中金院的預估的了解通常會比較保守一些對 所以中金院估到5.45所以今年的經濟成長率其實是相當強勁應該是不錯那五的話其實是非常亮麗的表現不管是在亞洲四小龍或在全世界來看這都是一個非常亮眼的表現\n61698\t86393\t所以特別在上半年下半年因為現在還在涉及到跟台美之間的談判但是這個如果是五的話過五的話這個有考慮到了接下來十月份有可能發一萬元這樣的一個因素進去了嗎中晉園他們是有把這個已經把巴納進去了然後是會射算在那一個消費這一塊對所以他也會帶動整個消費跟刺激所以對經濟成長率還是會成長\n87273\t103496\t說明期待啦齁那今年的五的話這樣看起來應該是樂觀去看待會過五啦齁那這是非常亮眼的成績啦齁那接下來明年度呢明年步現在看起來主委的看法呢有沒有機會但可能不會像今年這麼的漂亮啦齁\n105256\t124073\t明年的話主計出預估是2.81那其他國外的機構大概預估大概在2.6左右那我個人的看法是說明年的話因為今年的基期比較高所以相對的就是在出口這一塊的話可能那個數字不會像今年這麼好看那投資的話那個動能都還在\n124733\t153796\t那也是因為今年的基期比較高所以那個數字上面來講的話可能會往下掉一些明年的那一個經濟成長動能應該會來自消費這一塊所以消費我們還蠻樂觀就是說消費明年的話假如說搭配比如說像高雄這種演唱會經濟學的話經濟的話我想應該明年的消費應該會不錯然後整個股市的話也希望能夠持續今年的一個融解那會帶動所謂的所謂的財富消費\n154056\t171249\t對 今年的股市或是出口或者是內需的整個狀況都相當的良好啦但明明我們希望持續那主委我們還是要設定一個好一點的目標嘛希望還是以寶山為過山為一個目標嘛對朝這個方向就是總是設定一個目標我們朝一個方向去做努力啦\n172089\t185625\t也期盼明年有很好的成績啦我想執政其實就是希望給人民更多的這個不管是他的經濟上面或者收益上更好的一個狀況希望整個團隊是持續的努力來往這個方向推進\n186846\t212363\t再來現在賴總統其實也提到了包括國發這邊AI的新十大建設我認為這個也很重要包括這段時間以來從我們過去的半導體到現在的AI的產業我們都持續大力推那我也認為現在這個時間點來推從AI去推一個新十大建設來整個帶動未來的台灣的整個長遠發展我認為很重要我們希望打造未來更多的護國群山\n213143\t236209\t那我看到裡面有非常多的一些重要政策我也都很認同那高雄的部分其實在過去從九年前我不斷的倡議5G IoT的創新園區到後來蔡總統賴總統支持的雅灣這個雅灣的園區雅灣智慧科技創新園區171的投入那未來的部分這十大建設裡面\n237829\t259347\t會持續的在高雄持續加碼做更多的投資跟支持嗎會會會在這一個部分來講的話我們也有跟那個高雄市政府就高雄市政府其實有來提案就是說是不是能夠把那個雅灣大算力放到那個新AI四大建設裡面那這個部分我們會所以雅灣的雅灣的計畫裡面有被放進來新十大建設裡面對我們會\n260488\t271277\t因為重振過去以來這些的機會多不住在北部但是從這幾年你看不管是惠達AMD或等等其實包括大亞灣包括我們剛剛講的亞灣智慧科技創新研究院投了170億其實這個是非常具有潛力的一個地點所以我也希望國發會整合包括國科會包括經濟部包括各部會的力量持續的能夠對高雄的亞灣做更多的支持我認為這個對於均衡南北會很重要而且\n289292\t316650\t高雄的港景高雄的這個人才的培育高雄的這些基礎建設等等我認為都是一個很大的一個厚實的一個基礎啦那主委要不要講一下未來會有哪些的計畫有可能會座落在高雄的未來的一些計畫部分的話就我看一下我這邊看一下跟高雄有什麼會有哪些計畫譬如說像那個剛剛有提到那個雅灣智慧科學創意園區嘛那另外一個我們會有一些\n321186\t333620\t沒關係 主委回去盤點一下一個禮拜的時間給我啦好不好給我一下更具體的一些要投入的部分我也希望更清楚的看到那也彙整一下各部會的意見包括經濟部 國科會的意見讓我們看到這樣的\n336102\t358433\t這個投資不是只有集中在北部而已而是中南部都會被重視到跟支持好不好那裡面其中有兩項是跟國國發會職業相關的包括人才的應用跟前億的創投基金資金的部分包括區域的AI的區域均衡發展這一塊我都希望國發會自己主導的要更加重視特別是\n359233\t388084\t人才的部分這塊人才培育確實相當重要的工作我也希望能夠更具體的一些落實的做法進來那包括創投的基金過去創投基金基本上我也執行過歷任的很多的國發會主委大概都還是北部多南部少我希望這塊未來能夠持續的加重南部的力道給予他們更多的輔導跟支持跟協助讓他們有更多爭取到更多這些創投的基金來整個讓南部整個市場更加活絡\n389184\t415915\t請主委要很有意識的往南部去思考因為南部的這個聚落需要政府更大力的支持才有辦法去推動起來好 謝謝那再來我請教一下其實高雄有第一個已經成立了建立了主權AI的城市包括它有智慧高雄的AI燈塔計畫這個部分會納入到整個新十大建設裡面嗎AI的新十大建設嗎\n418622\t433235\t這個好像在上個禮拜雅萬指導委員會有討論這件事情有要納進去嗎我們會持續的去我希望主委支持啦好不好就是說智慧高雄的這個AI燈塔計畫納入到了AI的新十大建設裡面這也是一個\n434095\t460674\t整合了地方的政府的意見整體出來的好不好我希望諸委大力來協助推動就是很多的建設絕對是建基在跟中央地方的合作的基礎之上這個才有辦法才落實那包括其實高雄的港口包括高雄的電力石化鋼鐵造船等等其都是強項我也希望未來這些都能夠在整體上面得到更多的一些思考就是AI絕對不是\n461854\t478067\t他必須要建基在我們的很多基礎強項的一些產業上面推動他會有更達到更好的一些成效那剛提到不管是我們的鋼鐵石化電力造船其實都是高雄的強項我們希望他透過更多的AI智慧的這一塊的投入之後來達到更好的一個效果\n478727\t501839\t希望這塊整體都納入那當然我們期待的是未來亞灣剛講到的大亞灣這樣的計畫能夠整個納入到整體的推動這個AI十大產業裡面其實把亞灣整體思考進來這一段這幾天的高雄市的粉紅色的這個Blackpink其實讓大家感受到確實高雄的企圖心跟魄力是相當強的那我們也希望\n502539\t522641\t這些能夠未來透過更多的政府的支持讓整個一個港灣城市大亞灣的建設能夠得到全台灣全世界的高度關注好不好這請主委持續重視最後再提一個也是跟剛剛有關的創業天使投資方案我還是要強調我每次都問每一個主委這個一樣台北\n523402\t550144\t拿到了176家總共金額25而高雄只有14家啦你看新竹都還有13台中13然後台南13其實這個台北一個就獨拿了176所以我還是要提醒北部真的佔有相當強大的一個優勢包括連新北市都拿到了35我希望足為要很有意識的去支持中南部的這個創業的天使的投資方案好不好\n550384\t571032\t我每次都會問也每次都會講我希望要有具體的成果我希望很快至少看到至少要佔比比如說五分之一個比例落實在南部的地方好不好我希望有一些指數去看到國發會努力的成果要不然佔的比例其實相當低啦在這邊也請委員幫忙就是說我們有一個計畫叫做創業綻放啦\n572392\t592537\t那各六都的那個報名的比例也是呈現雙北比較高 中央比較低這個請委員多多幫忙這個已經長久存在一些狀況所以我說的是需要國防外更多的去協助他們可能不一定知道怎麼提案也不一定知道怎麼去怎麼樣得到協助所以要有更多的輔導團去\n594197\t613235\t到中部到南部去協助他們更多的提案他們如果他們知道有這些資源也好的運用的時候他們其實多數人是願意運用的那其實需要政府花更多力氣去協助他們不管是寫計畫或者輔導他們或者是去提出更好的一些方案出來我覺得政府的力道要再加大一點點好嗎好請主委重視這個問題好謝謝\n","txt":"請做詢答好 謝謝召委然後請葉主委我們再請葉主委\n主委 委員長 主委今年的台灣的基因狀況還不錯啦特別是但上半年的部分表現相當的強勁那現在大家預估在今年的基因成長率大概是3到5之間那主委你們的評估呢\n我覺得要過五也蠻有機會的因為像中金院的話都預估到5.45那一般來講我對中金院的預估的了解通常會比較保守一些對 所以中金院估到5.45所以今年的經濟成長率其實是相當強勁應該是不錯那五的話其實是非常亮麗的表現不管是在亞洲四小龍或在全世界來看這都是一個非常亮眼的表現\n所以特別在上半年下半年因為現在還在涉及到跟台美之間的談判但是這個如果是五的話過五的話這個有考慮到了接下來十月份有可能發一萬元這樣的一個因素進去了嗎中晉園他們是有把這個已經把巴納進去了然後是會射算在那一個消費這一塊對所以他也會帶動整個消費跟刺激所以對經濟成長率還是會成長\n說明期待啦齁那今年的五的話這樣看起來應該是樂觀去看待會過五啦齁那這是非常亮眼的成績啦齁那接下來明年度呢明年步現在看起來主委的看法呢有沒有機會但可能不會像今年這麼的漂亮啦齁\n明年的話主計出預估是2.81那其他國外的機構大概預估大概在2.6左右那我個人的看法是說明年的話因為今年的基期比較高所以相對的就是在出口這一塊的話可能那個數字不會像今年這麼好看那投資的話那個動能都還在\n那也是因為今年的基期比較高所以那個數字上面來講的話可能會往下掉一些明年的那一個經濟成長動能應該會來自消費這一塊所以消費我們還蠻樂觀就是說消費明年的話假如說搭配比如說像高雄這種演唱會經濟學的話經濟的話我想應該明年的消費應該會不錯然後整個股市的話也希望能夠持續今年的一個融解那會帶動所謂的所謂的財富消費\n對 今年的股市或是出口或者是內需的整個狀況都相當的良好啦但明明我們希望持續那主委我們還是要設定一個好一點的目標嘛希望還是以寶山為過山為一個目標嘛對朝這個方向就是總是設定一個目標我們朝一個方向去做努力啦\n也期盼明年有很好的成績啦我想執政其實就是希望給人民更多的這個不管是他的經濟上面或者收益上更好的一個狀況希望整個團隊是持續的努力來往這個方向推進\n再來現在賴總統其實也提到了包括國發這邊AI的新十大建設我認為這個也很重要包括這段時間以來從我們過去的半導體到現在的AI的產業我們都持續大力推那我也認為現在這個時間點來推從AI去推一個新十大建設來整個帶動未來的台灣的整個長遠發展我認為很重要我們希望打造未來更多的護國群山\n那我看到裡面有非常多的一些重要政策我也都很認同那高雄的部分其實在過去從九年前我不斷的倡議5G IoT的創新園區到後來蔡總統賴總統支持的雅灣這個雅灣的園區雅灣智慧科技創新園區171的投入那未來的部分這十大建設裡面\n會持續的在高雄持續加碼做更多的投資跟支持嗎會會會在這一個部分來講的話我們也有跟那個高雄市政府就高雄市政府其實有來提案就是說是不是能夠把那個雅灣大算力放到那個新AI四大建設裡面那這個部分我們會所以雅灣的雅灣的計畫裡面有被放進來新十大建設裡面對我們會\n因為重振過去以來這些的機會多不住在北部但是從這幾年你看不管是惠達AMD或等等其實包括大亞灣包括我們剛剛講的亞灣智慧科技創新研究院投了170億其實這個是非常具有潛力的一個地點所以我也希望國發會整合包括國科會包括經濟部包括各部會的力量持續的能夠對高雄的亞灣做更多的支持我認為這個對於均衡南北會很重要而且\n高雄的港景高雄的這個人才的培育高雄的這些基礎建設等等我認為都是一個很大的一個厚實的一個基礎啦那主委要不要講一下未來會有哪些的計畫有可能會座落在高雄的未來的一些計畫部分的話就我看一下我這邊看一下跟高雄有什麼會有哪些計畫譬如說像那個剛剛有提到那個雅灣智慧科學創意園區嘛那另外一個我們會有一些\n沒關係 主委回去盤點一下一個禮拜的時間給我啦好不好給我一下更具體的一些要投入的部分我也希望更清楚的看到那也彙整一下各部會的意見包括經濟部 國科會的意見讓我們看到這樣的\n這個投資不是只有集中在北部而已而是中南部都會被重視到跟支持好不好那裡面其中有兩項是跟國國發會職業相關的包括人才的應用跟前億的創投基金資金的部分包括區域的AI的區域均衡發展這一塊我都希望國發會自己主導的要更加重視特別是\n人才的部分這塊人才培育確實相當重要的工作我也希望能夠更具體的一些落實的做法進來那包括創投的基金過去創投基金基本上我也執行過歷任的很多的國發會主委大概都還是北部多南部少我希望這塊未來能夠持續的加重南部的力道給予他們更多的輔導跟支持跟協助讓他們有更多爭取到更多這些創投的基金來整個讓南部整個市場更加活絡\n請主委要很有意識的往南部去思考因為南部的這個聚落需要政府更大力的支持才有辦法去推動起來好 謝謝那再來我請教一下其實高雄有第一個已經成立了建立了主權AI的城市包括它有智慧高雄的AI燈塔計畫這個部分會納入到整個新十大建設裡面嗎AI的新十大建設嗎\n這個好像在上個禮拜雅萬指導委員會有討論這件事情有要納進去嗎我們會持續的去我希望主委支持啦好不好就是說智慧高雄的這個AI燈塔計畫納入到了AI的新十大建設裡面這也是一個\n整合了地方的政府的意見整體出來的好不好我希望諸委大力來協助推動就是很多的建設絕對是建基在跟中央地方的合作的基礎之上這個才有辦法才落實那包括其實高雄的港口包括高雄的電力石化鋼鐵造船等等其都是強項我也希望未來這些都能夠在整體上面得到更多的一些思考就是AI絕對不是\n他必須要建基在我們的很多基礎強項的一些產業上面推動他會有更達到更好的一些成效那剛提到不管是我們的鋼鐵石化電力造船其實都是高雄的強項我們希望他透過更多的AI智慧的這一塊的投入之後來達到更好的一個效果\n希望這塊整體都納入那當然我們期待的是未來亞灣剛講到的大亞灣這樣的計畫能夠整個納入到整體的推動這個AI十大產業裡面其實把亞灣整體思考進來這一段這幾天的高雄市的粉紅色的這個Blackpink其實讓大家感受到確實高雄的企圖心跟魄力是相當強的那我們也希望\n這些能夠未來透過更多的政府的支持讓整個一個港灣城市大亞灣的建設能夠得到全台灣全世界的高度關注好不好這請主委持續重視最後再提一個也是跟剛剛有關的創業天使投資方案我還是要強調我每次都問每一個主委這個一樣台北\n拿到了176家總共金額25而高雄只有14家啦你看新竹都還有13台中13然後台南13其實這個台北一個就獨拿了176所以我還是要提醒北部真的佔有相當強大的一個優勢包括連新北市都拿到了35我希望足為要很有意識的去支持中南部的這個創業的天使的投資方案好不好\n我每次都會問也每次都會講我希望要有具體的成果我希望很快至少看到至少要佔比比如說五分之一個比例落實在南部的地方好不好我希望有一些指數去看到國發會努力的成果要不然佔的比例其實相當低啦在這邊也請委員幫忙就是說我們有一個計畫叫做創業綻放啦\n那各六都的那個報名的比例也是呈現雙北比較高 中央比較低這個請委員多多幫忙這個已經長久存在一些狀況所以我說的是需要國防外更多的去協助他們可能不一定知道怎麼提案也不一定知道怎麼去怎麼樣得到協助所以要有更多的輔導團去\n到中部到南部去協助他們更多的提案他們如果他們知道有這些資源也好的運用的時候他們其實多數人是願意運用的那其實需要政府花更多力氣去協助他們不管是寫計畫或者輔導他們或者是去提出更好的一些方案出來我覺得政府的力道要再加大一點點好嗎好請主委重視這個問題好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.340 --> 00:11.037\n請做詢答好謝謝召委然後請葉主委我們再請葉主委\n\n00:16.789 --> 00:34.739\n主委委員長主委今年的台灣的基因狀況還不錯啦特別是但上半年的部分表現相當的強勁那現在大家預估在今年的基因成長率大概是3到5之間那主委你們的評估呢\n\n00:35.299 --> 01:00.677\n我覺得要過五也蠻有機會的因為像中金院的話都預估到5.45那一般來講我對中金院的預估的了解通常會比較保守一些對所以中金院估到5.45所以今年的經濟成長率其實是相當強勁應該是不錯那五的話其實是非常亮麗的表現不管是在亞洲四小龍或在全世界來看這都是一個非常亮眼的表現\n\n01:01.698 --> 01:26.393\n所以特別在上半年下半年因為現在還在涉及到跟台美之間的談判但是這個如果是五的話過五的話這個有考慮到了接下來十月份有可能發一萬元這樣的一個因素進去了嗎中晉園他們是有把這個已經把巴納進去了然後是會射算在那一個消費這一塊對所以他也會帶動整個消費跟刺激所以對經濟成長率還是會成長\n\n01:27.273 --> 01:43.496\n說明期待啦齁那今年的五的話這樣看起來應該是樂觀去看待會過五啦齁那這是非常亮眼的成績啦齁那接下來明年度呢明年步現在看起來主委的看法呢有沒有機會但可能不會像今年這麼的漂亮啦齁\n\n01:45.256 --> 02:04.073\n明年的話主計出預估是2.81那其他國外的機構大概預估大概在2.6左右那我個人的看法是說明年的話因為今年的基期比較高所以相對的就是在出口這一塊的話可能那個數字不會像今年這麼好看那投資的話那個動能都還在\n\n02:04.733 --> 02:33.796\n那也是因為今年的基期比較高所以那個數字上面來講的話可能會往下掉一些明年的那一個經濟成長動能應該會來自消費這一塊所以消費我們還蠻樂觀就是說消費明年的話假如說搭配比如說像高雄這種演唱會經濟學的話經濟的話我想應該明年的消費應該會不錯然後整個股市的話也希望能夠持續今年的一個融解那會帶動所謂的所謂的財富消費\n\n02:34.056 --> 02:51.249\n對今年的股市或是出口或者是內需的整個狀況都相當的良好啦但明明我們希望持續那主委我們還是要設定一個好一點的目標嘛希望還是以寶山為過山為一個目標嘛對朝這個方向就是總是設定一個目標我們朝一個方向去做努力啦\n\n02:52.089 --> 03:05.625\n也期盼明年有很好的成績啦我想執政其實就是希望給人民更多的這個不管是他的經濟上面或者收益上更好的一個狀況希望整個團隊是持續的努力來往這個方向推進\n\n03:06.846 --> 03:32.363\n再來現在賴總統其實也提到了包括國發這邊AI的新十大建設我認為這個也很重要包括這段時間以來從我們過去的半導體到現在的AI的產業我們都持續大力推那我也認為現在這個時間點來推從AI去推一個新十大建設來整個帶動未來的台灣的整個長遠發展我認為很重要我們希望打造未來更多的護國群山\n\n03:33.143 --> 03:56.209\n那我看到裡面有非常多的一些重要政策我也都很認同那高雄的部分其實在過去從九年前我不斷的倡議5GIoT的創新園區到後來蔡總統賴總統支持的雅灣這個雅灣的園區雅灣智慧科技創新園區171的投入那未來的部分這十大建設裡面\n\n03:57.829 --> 04:19.347\n會持續的在高雄持續加碼做更多的投資跟支持嗎會會會在這一個部分來講的話我們也有跟那個高雄市政府就高雄市政府其實有來提案就是說是不是能夠把那個雅灣大算力放到那個新AI四大建設裡面那這個部分我們會所以雅灣的雅灣的計畫裡面有被放進來新十大建設裡面對我們會\n\n04:20.488 --> 04:31.277\n因為重振過去以來這些的機會多不住在北部但是從這幾年你看不管是惠達AMD或等等其實包括大亞灣包括我們剛剛講的亞灣智慧科技創新研究院投了170億其實這個是非常具有潛力的一個地點所以我也希望國發會整合包括國科會包括經濟部包括各部會的力量持續的能夠對高雄的亞灣做更多的支持我認為這個對於均衡南北會很重要而且\n\n04:49.292 --> 05:16.650\n高雄的港景高雄的這個人才的培育高雄的這些基礎建設等等我認為都是一個很大的一個厚實的一個基礎啦那主委要不要講一下未來會有哪些的計畫有可能會座落在高雄的未來的一些計畫部分的話就我看一下我這邊看一下跟高雄有什麼會有哪些計畫譬如說像那個剛剛有提到那個雅灣智慧科學創意園區嘛那另外一個我們會有一些\n\n05:21.186 --> 05:33.620\n沒關係主委回去盤點一下一個禮拜的時間給我啦好不好給我一下更具體的一些要投入的部分我也希望更清楚的看到那也彙整一下各部會的意見包括經濟部國科會的意見讓我們看到這樣的\n\n05:36.102 --> 05:58.433\n這個投資不是只有集中在北部而已而是中南部都會被重視到跟支持好不好那裡面其中有兩項是跟國國發會職業相關的包括人才的應用跟前億的創投基金資金的部分包括區域的AI的區域均衡發展這一塊我都希望國發會自己主導的要更加重視特別是\n\n05:59.233 --> 06:28.084\n人才的部分這塊人才培育確實相當重要的工作我也希望能夠更具體的一些落實的做法進來那包括創投的基金過去創投基金基本上我也執行過歷任的很多的國發會主委大概都還是北部多南部少我希望這塊未來能夠持續的加重南部的力道給予他們更多的輔導跟支持跟協助讓他們有更多爭取到更多這些創投的基金來整個讓南部整個市場更加活絡\n\n06:29.184 --> 06:55.915\n請主委要很有意識的往南部去思考因為南部的這個聚落需要政府更大力的支持才有辦法去推動起來好謝謝那再來我請教一下其實高雄有第一個已經成立了建立了主權AI的城市包括它有智慧高雄的AI燈塔計畫這個部分會納入到整個新十大建設裡面嗎AI的新十大建設嗎\n\n06:58.622 --> 07:13.235\n這個好像在上個禮拜雅萬指導委員會有討論這件事情有要納進去嗎我們會持續的去我希望主委支持啦好不好就是說智慧高雄的這個AI燈塔計畫納入到了AI的新十大建設裡面這也是一個\n\n07:14.095 --> 07:40.674\n整合了地方的政府的意見整體出來的好不好我希望諸委大力來協助推動就是很多的建設絕對是建基在跟中央地方的合作的基礎之上這個才有辦法才落實那包括其實高雄的港口包括高雄的電力石化鋼鐵造船等等其都是強項我也希望未來這些都能夠在整體上面得到更多的一些思考就是AI絕對不是\n\n07:41.854 --> 07:58.067\n他必須要建基在我們的很多基礎強項的一些產業上面推動他會有更達到更好的一些成效那剛提到不管是我們的鋼鐵石化電力造船其實都是高雄的強項我們希望他透過更多的AI智慧的這一塊的投入之後來達到更好的一個效果\n\n07:58.727 --> 08:21.839\n希望這塊整體都納入那當然我們期待的是未來亞灣剛講到的大亞灣這樣的計畫能夠整個納入到整體的推動這個AI十大產業裡面其實把亞灣整體思考進來這一段這幾天的高雄市的粉紅色的這個Blackpink其實讓大家感受到確實高雄的企圖心跟魄力是相當強的那我們也希望\n\n08:22.539 --> 08:42.641\n這些能夠未來透過更多的政府的支持讓整個一個港灣城市大亞灣的建設能夠得到全台灣全世界的高度關注好不好這請主委持續重視最後再提一個也是跟剛剛有關的創業天使投資方案我還是要強調我每次都問每一個主委這個一樣台北\n\n08:43.402 --> 09:10.144\n拿到了176家總共金額25而高雄只有14家啦你看新竹都還有13台中13然後台南13其實這個台北一個就獨拿了176所以我還是要提醒北部真的佔有相當強大的一個優勢包括連新北市都拿到了35我希望足為要很有意識的去支持中南部的這個創業的天使的投資方案好不好\n\n09:10.384 --> 09:31.032\n我每次都會問也每次都會講我希望要有具體的成果我希望很快至少看到至少要佔比比如說五分之一個比例落實在南部的地方好不好我希望有一些指數去看到國發會努力的成果要不然佔的比例其實相當低啦在這邊也請委員幫忙就是說我們有一個計畫叫做創業綻放啦\n\n09:32.392 --> 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