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00:02:00,326\n受害者成年之後出面指控找到人本基金會跟我們然後學校性評會在調查之後確定性侵害成立決議終身解聘那問題是我想次長你應該知道這個郎師因為他已經退休這個處分\n\n6\n00:02:02,256 --> 00:02:15,474\n居然沒有辦法有任何的影響他每個月也可以繼續爽領退休金各位朱次長您覺得這樣子對當年的受害的學生後來勇敢站出來之後這樣子是有公道的嗎\n\n7\n00:02:16,668 --> 00:02:39,695\n根本報告據我了解目前在退伍條例80條裡面針對於如果經過我們校園性平會調查涉及到性侵害解聘的部分應該是會致死去追回他的退休金所以您認為應該受性平會解聘的應該要收回退休金\n\n8\n00:02:40,575 --> 00:02:55,428\n是那是針對現值那如果已經退休的呢像這個案例退休的我們也是追回啊也追回現在一到八十條應該是到最後這是應該要應該有的態度所以市長你也認同追回是退休了也要追回是\n\n9\n00:02:55,768 --> 00:03:20,469\n好那現在我就告訴你我們現在的法規有一個部分跟您講的不一樣如果是在職教師一教師法14條被解聘的話就失去教師資格立刻取消退休金如果是退休教師只有在就是沒有超過追溯期的時候司法判刑確定才能夠就是第80條沒錯剝奪並取消退休金\n\n10\n00:03:24,472 --> 00:03:44,213\n今天像我剛講那個案例因為他已經過了刑法追溯期雖然學校的調查成立而且也把他象徵性的解聘可是他還是爽領退休金所以朱次長你非常認同我的講法那是不是我請教育部研議一下\n\n11\n00:03:45,214 --> 00:04:12,868\n那既然有人要修這個就是關於退休金的是不是也能夠在這個機會中就是研議一下第80條在判處有歧途性以上之行確定者把這個空間留下來對於就是已經超過追溯期沒有辦法就是在法律上得到一個公道可是學校的行政判斷然後地方局處都認定應該要就是還是\n\n12\n00:04:14,409 --> 00:04:37,050\n取消他的教師資格者那是不是能夠有真正的處罰他取消他的退休金呢是謝謝委員的建議我想因為目前針對校園性平事件的處理學校不管在學校或教育部我們都有一個很嚴謹的過程所以說雖然他不屬於那個形式的確認判決\n\n13\n00:04:38,371 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