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00:01:58,142\n而是這個國家跟公教人員定下的契約精神本席再次強調那是契約精神那也希望教育部跟全區部務必要跟我們公教人員站在一起那而不是跟執政黨在一起一定要全力來守護我們公教人員應有的權益那接下來我想要針對我們偏鄉的問題來跟我們任總這邊來進行討論我們請任總委員好\n\n7\n00:02:05,020 --> 00:02:23,868\n正好那個根據媒體報導我們這幾年那個公教人員的報考率逐漸下降可是離職率越來越高這代表什麼代表越來越少人願意留在我們的公教的職場那在偏鄉更是嚴重像台東的公教人員短缺跟流動的頻率都很高像\n\n8\n00:02:24,668 --> 00:02:49,584\n所以那個情車台東整個服務院廣大那交通啊生活機能都不比西部跟北部造成很多公務人員公教人員都一樣就一定年資服務一滿之後他就會選擇離開台東縣變成一個新兵訓練中心一直在換人一直在換人那本市在立法院也多次的爭取這個一定要提升我們台東地區公教人員的家籍目前台東的東台家籍每個月是多少錢600\n\n9\n00:02:55,435 --> 00:03:08,133\n630630從民國79年到現在都沒有調過各位清楚這30年的物價變化多大680以台東縣的整個服務員廣大的情況來講630塊他連一個月的油錢他都可能沒有辦法負擔\n\n10\n00:03:09,415 --> 00:03:38,795\n那我想這個真的是要很好要請好好思考一下東部的特殊性那我們行政院目前有推這個各級機關學校公教人員工作地域加級合理化調整方案本席在主張是說這個部分中央一定要挹注更多的資源我們研議我們怎麼樣讓來台東這些服務的不管是工人員或老師他願意留下來而且優先喔這個事情是從本島就從台東優先來做起\n\n11\n00:03:39,435 --> 00:03:55,733\n因為我相信全台灣很多地方跟台東一樣那台東是更明顯的因為其實坦白說我們自己本席從台東上來的不管是距離啦交通方式啦跟離島其實沒什麼兩樣所以這部分要請任總這邊來協助那這邊是不是可以來演繹一下\n\n12\n00:03:57,626 --> 00:04:09,290\n委員其實我們任市長對台東很關注他去台東很多次我都跟他翻臉過他對台東是很關心的東台家族是比較早一點的規範現在是刷第一家族來做處理所以委員是很內行的\n\n13\n00:04:21,334 --> 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