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00:01:00,424\n那我們馬上呢就跟台鐵來關切在這邊我也要肯定台鐵跟鐵路警察局其實在第一天第一時間就做出了協調跟回應就是我們加強了這個台鐵站內的保全那下個月甚至會增加保全的人力讓他這個見人率見警率可以來提升不過也在這個案件的了解當中我發現我們這個台鐵站內的鐵路警察\n\n3\n00:01:01,344 --> 00:01:13,178\n這個人力其實有一個很大的缺口我不知道院長有沒有了解我們的鐵路警察的員額是近900名那目前呢還有184名近200名沒有人啊\n\n4\n00:01:17,052 --> 00:01:45,767\n缺額還是很大的對那鐵路警察要負責什麼呢台鐵總共242個車站還有高鐵12個車站沿路超過1000公里沿線都需要他們為我們來維護治安所以台鐵公會其實上半年就有提出來了因為他們發現我們台鐵自己內部的人員在站內巡查的時候光是上半年遭受攻擊的案件就多起所以院長我們能夠協助趕快來把這個鐵路警察員額有員額啊但是沒人能趕快把人來補齊啊\n\n5\n00:01:47,831 --> 00:01:59,038\n了解上這個內政部警政署已經有一個擴大招生的計畫預計在未來的年度裡面要有大量的招生但是這個也要靠這個整個計畫能夠推動的這個順暢市長來說明來委員院長院員大家好\n\n6\n00:02:04,468 --> 00:02:31,221\n那要跟委員報告就是說我們整個的目前在鐵路警察局的員額有910人那差額184人我們會透過那個警力的提供還有短期的計畫的方式來增加短期計畫我了解我現在在問員額有沒有逐年要去補對總體的員額在115年我們要再派補3000人那在派補3000人裡面我們已經派補了2600人明年就會開始派補嘛\n\n7\n00:02:33,221 --> 00:02:59,647\n請你們一定要去注意這個問題不要等到事件發生遺憾的時候才來發現人力不足這個是我們平常就要做的那除了鐵路警察人力以外有關於台鐵這個我們部長在這裡他非常了解過去我也多次請交通部來協助因為台北車站他是六鐵共購裡面還牽涉到台北市政府地下街有市場數有台北捷運公司常常需要台鐵需要跟台北市政府來進行協調\n\n8\n00:03:01,207 --> 00:03:18,317\n所以我要請這個交通部也要大力的來協助台鐵現在我們有災防聯合中心嘛治安也是聯合的重點請你們來協助台鐵跟這個地方政府多來協調我希望未來台北車站的治安維護我們可以來提升整體的量能可以嗎\n\n9\n00:03:18,737 --> 00:03:32,967\n好我們來努力好那這一個案件呢也引發了社會諸多的討論但我這裡要強調這一個個案從目前披露的資訊它跟街友是沒有任何的關聯的\n\n10\n00:03:33,928 --> 00:03:51,755\n它其實跟街友無關但是因為台北市確實是我們全國為了服務有列冊的街友人數最多的一個城市那其中台北市當中又以台北車站是街友聚集最多人數的一個熱點所以過去我在擔任市議員的期間\n\n11\n00:03:52,375 --> 00:04:09,548\n也多次也長期的跟我們台北市政府來關心有關於我們皆有安置皆有輔導皆有收容皆有的就業輔助等等相關的議題需要市政府地方政府要來協助那麼除了地方政府以外呢\n\n12\n00:04:10,348 --> 00:04:32,165\n我們的法律基礎也是很重要其實院長我們現在有關於皆有輔導的在法律層面的條文就只有一條而已就是社會救助法第17條當中有提到文字是這樣警察發現皆有要通報社會局一起處理但如何處理呢由地方政府自定\n\n13\n00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:47,348\n所以過去呢這個縣市地方議會有不同縣市議員跟我們反映因為沒有法源基礎沒有明定說地方政府輔助皆有的法定義務是什麼所以呢其實議會要監督政府常常我們也是狗吠火車\n\n14\n00:04:48,567 --> 00:05:09,845\n就是說這個積極的地方政府他要做例如說過去台中市自己就訂定了自治條例他有辦法做但是不想做的地方政府你也沒辦法沒有法定義務那這個呢在我進立法院的第一個應該是第一第二個月團體就來跟我們討論當時希望中央可以來訂定無家者專法\n\n15\n00:05:10,365 --> 00:05:31,635\n我也找了衛福部來討論那當時我們知道衛福部也正在研擬社救法修法的草案所以衛福部過去曾經主張就在社救法的修法當中併入無家者專章當時我們認為這個時程比較快但我們萬萬都沒有料到後來在野黨提出了才化法的修法\n\n16\n00:05:32,595 --> 00:05:53,229\n所以導致於社就法修法原先院長有一個這個心願我們也很支持就是希望我們政府對於弱勢的照顧能夠來擴大但是呢現在因為裁員的關係社就法他也需要更多的討論因為他牽涉到執行層面所以我的建議是說有關於無家者的輔導\n\n17\n00:05:55,525 --> 00:06:12,599\n讓地方政府有明定的法定義務我們是不是先來研擬無家者專訪讓無家者專訪先行衛福部有沒有辦法先來研擬這樣的方向呢謝謝委員特別關心到我們這個\n\n18\n00:06:14,371 --> 00:06:43,479\n無家者或者是皆有的這些福利跟權益確實如同委員提到我們在去年113年曾經預告了社會救助法的修法的草案當時候如同這個委員提到現行的這個社會救助法就一條條文是跟這個皆有相關那在我們的草案裡面有增加到五條包含定義包含這個這個中央地方應該要這個如何來協助資源如何挹注\n\n19\n00:06:45,180 --> 00:06:58,087\n從這個經濟安全從脫貧自利到這個社會投資有這樣的想法去規範但是確實預告之後也有很多的意見再加上社政法目前有預定要送立法院的時間嗎\n\n20\n00:06:59,188 --> 00:07:20,603\n因為意見很多我們還在溝通另外就是一個變數就是這個還在溝通也還有裁員的變數所以院長我希望因為我們在台北市那剛好萬華區跟中正區台北市皆有的集中的熱點都在我的選區當中所以我們長期的在協助民間也來\n\n21\n00:07:21,403 --> 00:07:36,437\n督促地方政府要來做皆有的輔導其實大量的需要安置的空間相關的輔助院長我們是不是可以來研擬無家者專法我們先行的來訂定我也會來提出草案那希望行政院可以來支持\n\n22\n00:07:37,418 --> 00:07:52,763\n因為委員出身台北市議會有地方議會來到國會殿堂更了解地方對這些問題的直接面第一面的衝擊那也謝謝剛剛提到這麼多我覺得還是要回歸到整個地方的執行面來看\n\n23\n00:07:53,303 --> 00:08:12,105\n那中央可以定一個方向大方向出來那剛剛提到我們因為現在在財化法的新法的制度底下中央的力量已經被削弱了很多所以如果讓地方能夠確實來執行中央可以有一個方向定出來但執行的過程還是要靠地方政府來完成的\n\n24\n00:08:12,489 --> 00:08:30,670\n沒有錯所以大的方向我認為我們先來訂定專法另外就是這個案件它是次案事件不要把它跟街友的案是不安置在一起談獨立事件我們大家也知道但是街友的輔助這個是進步的國家我們要一起來支持台北車站它絕對是一個重要的重大的關鍵基礎設施\n\n25\n00:08:33,372 --> 00:08:57,725\n這個無家者專訪後續了我就持續來跟你們討論接下來要跟院長關心的是院長也很關心的10月10號新上路三天的教師身心調試假大家都非常期待因為我們既有現行的就是教師有七天的試假照理說七天的試假加上三天的身心調試假七加三應該等於十\n\n26\n00:08:58,405 --> 00:09:26,573\n但是我們現在的算法因為你併入市價你們的7加3還是等於7只是他請假的要件比較簡化所以啦你把市價跟身心調市價併價計算我認為實質上等於教師有三天假被你們偷走了那所以全教總的批評非常的激烈喔我來跟這個院長分享全教總他說呢就是第一個你這個換湯不換藥因為教師的假期總額沒增加嘛\n\n27\n00:09:28,166 --> 00:09:41,964\n大家期待已久都聽說有新的三天升薪條市價以為總額會增加就趕快因為你病入市價計算第二個我本來就有七天的市價你現在把我併進來我既有市價其實被你壓縮了第三個\n\n28\n00:09:43,326 --> 00:09:59,998\n新增身心調適價的這個價別就是認為身心調適是一個符合也是我們賴清東總統的政見健康台灣身心健康的需求你們把身心調適併入市價請問現在有身心調適需求是很有事嗎\n\n29\n00:10:00,999 --> 00:10:16,323\n是有事嗎你沒有去正面的去肯定他他本來就是一個理由所以我還是希望其實部長也有很多人跟你有過討論我還是希望我們可以來研擬這個身心調適價應該要還給教師\n\n30\n00:10:22,746 --> 00:10:40,858\n我們這個制度先讓他上路是考慮到真正的有需求但是我們要考慮到整個所有的身份別的人他的這個公平性跟平衡性還要考慮到產業界跟這個放假日數的增加與否所以我們先用這樣的方式簡化他請假請試假的\n\n31\n00:10:42,740 --> 00:11:04,881\n請併假的這個原因他不用去舉很多的例子先這樣來上路上路之後一定會引起社會的重視正面的反應很好很多我們就可以進一步來推動沒有錯上路之後也要請教育部行政院持續來關切因為馬上第一天台中市就發生了有老師要請假地方教育局說你先把七天試假用完再說\n\n32\n00:11:06,262 --> 00:11:20,167\n這個沒有達到我們的初衷我知道教育部有關切所以滾動式來調整我還是希望朝向未來身心調適假三天還給教師這是應該的再來這個部長也很了解就曾經就在這個議場\n\n33\n00:11:21,627 --> 00:11:44,162\n不久之前部長曾經承諾說要來研擬去提升我們基層教師的終點費來也朝這個方向來研議為什麼因為現在呢新聞報導很多專題都有年輕人沒有人願意來當老師出現教師荒還呢同時呢還出現行政大逃亡\n\n34\n00:11:45,373 --> 00:12:06,516\n就是當教師線第一線的教學真的辛苦然後呢除了教學以外我們還要老師來兼做行政所以呢不只沒有人要當老師已經是老師了沒有人想要兼行政所以呢除了教師終點費要來提升這個方向我覺得要來研議以外呢我也認為導師費跟行政加給我們可以來研議調整\n\n35\n00:12:08,359 --> 00:12:32,825\n因為這兩個工作都是老師在教學以外我們額外賦予他的工作院長你覺得我們能不能夠來當基層教師的後盾來去研擬因為我剛講這個終點費這20年來我們的基本工資剛剛院長有提到重要的我們各個行業別大家應該要去相互的注意20年來基本工資調漲的幅度187倍而20年來教師終點費的條幅是多少\n\n36\n00:12:38,430 --> 00:12:57,464\n只有5%落後了我們一般社會勞工的37倍我們基層教師有這麼不值嗎教育部跟我們都有注意到這個重大的問題所以日前也有委員在這裡談過這樣的狀況我們也覺得這個不成比例的問題要趕快來解決\n\n37\n00:12:58,334 --> 00:13:24,223\n我記得那天教育部他有一個說法部長我要拜託你了我們討論過很多次我們來想看到問題就要解決問題也許沒有辦法一觸可擊可是我們要開始演繹好不好一定要來提升我們基層教師的待遇部長謝謝最後因為剩下兩分鐘的時間院長必須跟你關切我很關心的就是有關於我們都市更新要加速危老條例\n\n38\n00:13:25,243 --> 00:13:51,038\n不能落日這個非常關切的因為我的選區也是萬華區它的平均屋齡41年台北市最老的區域其中有近7成的屋齡都超過40年那這不是單一選區的問題全台灣都面臨這樣的就是我們都市需要來更新所以我聽說內政部有在研議危老條例因為按照現行法規一年半後就要來這個時間到期了是不是有嚴厲要來讓它能夠延長\n\n39\n00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:21,693\n違老都更都是我們在明年度重大的推升內需的重要項目所以對違老都更都更我們會同時進行都更我們甚至在公辦自辦之外要推自主都更那違老的我們還有新的包括這個預算已經編進去了對整個老宅延壽機能復興計畫那裡面對達到一定條件的建築物達到一定年限的建築物我們會有一些補助的一個方案請次長說明\n\n40\n00:14:22,958 --> 00:14:41,849\n圍繞條例過去幾年我們的成效非常好就是這8年來有近5000件的申請這要肯定內政部同仁的努力所以第一個我們希望新政院承諾圍繞條例不落日剛剛院長有提到的我們還有新增的項目對不對包括我們的榮獎是不是有新增項目公益設施社福設施是不是會納入新增的榮獎\n\n41\n00:14:43,090 --> 00:15:00,516\n也在跟社會溝通中我們的危老條例會在這個會期我們送到行政院來做備審因為危老條例裡面我們還會增加老宅延壽的章節讓整個的危老跟老宅延壽全部都可以一起整合讓整個社區能夠在地安老然後讓整個人民的生活環境比較好都市環境也變得比較好\n\n42\n00:15:01,107 --> 00:15:22,653\n老宅延售就是有些房子可能要改建但是布丁馬上等得到所以我們先讓他安全要提升例如說有些老舊公寓沒有電梯的讓他增設電梯可以補助那過去呢像台北市他只補助公共設施未來我們內政部這個案件這個任性計畫剛剛曾經過嘛市內的修繕你們有沒有納入補助我們不是只有走走電梯還有傳進空\n\n43\n00:15:38,792 --> 00:15:39,473\n好謝謝吳佩儀委員質詢謝謝卓院長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3800\t8343\t好謝謝主席我請行政院卓榮泰院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢吳委員好院長好前陣子就在我們台北市我們首都的國門台北車站發生了一起令人心痛而且震驚國人的性侵案件那其中後續的媒體傳播也讓國人更加的震撼\n33740\t60424\t那我們馬上呢就跟台鐵來關切在這邊我也要肯定台鐵跟鐵路警察局其實在第一天第一時間就做出了協調跟回應就是我們加強了這個台鐵站內的保全那下個月甚至會增加保全的人力讓他這個見人率見警率可以來提升不過也在這個案件的了解當中我發現我們這個台鐵站內的鐵路警察\n61344\t73178\t這個人力其實有一個很大的缺口我不知道院長有沒有了解我們的鐵路警察的員額是近900名那目前呢還有184名近200名沒有人啊\n77052\t105767\t缺額還是很大的對那鐵路警察要負責什麼呢台鐵總共242個車站還有高鐵12個車站沿路超過1000公里沿線都需要他們為我們來維護治安所以台鐵公會其實上半年就有提出來了因為他們發現我們台鐵自己內部的人員在站內巡查的時候光是上半年遭受攻擊的案件就多起所以院長我們能夠協助趕快來把這個鐵路警察員額有員額啊但是沒人能趕快把人來補齊啊\n107831\t119038\t了解上這個內政部警政署已經有一個擴大招生的計畫預計在未來的年度裡面要有大量的招生但是這個也要靠這個整個計畫能夠推動的這個順暢市長來說明來委員院長院員大家好\n124468\t151221\t那要跟委員報告就是說我們整個的目前在鐵路警察局的員額有910人那差額184人我們會透過那個警力的提供還有短期的計畫的方式來增加短期計畫我了解我現在在問員額有沒有逐年要去補對 總體的員額在115年我們要再派補3000人那在派補3000人裡面我們已經派補了2600人明年就會開始派補嘛\n153221\t179647\t請你們一定要去注意這個問題不要等到事件發生遺憾的時候才來發現人力不足這個是我們平常就要做的那除了鐵路警察人力以外有關於台鐵這個我們部長在這裡他非常了解過去我也多次請交通部來協助因為台北車站他是六鐵共購裡面還牽涉到台北市政府地下街有市場數有台北捷運公司常常需要台鐵需要跟台北市政府來進行協調\n181207\t198317\t所以我要請這個交通部也要大力的來協助台鐵現在我們有災防聯合中心嘛治安也是聯合的重點請你們來協助台鐵跟這個地方政府多來協調我希望未來台北車站的治安維護我們可以來提升整體的量能可以嗎\n198737\t212967\t好 我們來努力好 那這一個案件呢也引發了社會諸多的討論但我這裡要強調這一個個案從目前披露的資訊它跟街友是沒有任何的關聯的\n213928\t231755\t它其實跟街友無關但是因為台北市確實是我們全國為了服務有列冊的街友人數最多的一個城市那其中台北市當中又以台北車站是街友聚集最多人數的一個熱點所以過去我在擔任市議員的期間\n232375\t249548\t也多次也長期的跟我們台北市政府來關心有關於我們皆有安置皆有輔導皆有收容皆有的就業輔助等等相關的議題需要市政府地方政府要來協助那麼除了地方政府以外呢\n250348\t272165\t我們的法律基礎也是很重要其實院長我們現在有關於皆有輔導的在法律層面的條文就只有一條而已就是社會救助法第17條當中有提到文字是這樣警察發現皆有要通報社會局一起處理但如何處理呢由地方政府自定\n273106\t287348\t所以過去呢這個縣市地方議會有不同縣市議員跟我們反映因為沒有法源基礎沒有明定說地方政府輔助皆有的法定義務是什麼所以呢其實議會要監督政府常常我們也是狗吠火車\n288567\t309845\t就是說這個積極的地方政府他要做例如說過去台中市自己就訂定了自治條例他有辦法做但是不想做的地方政府你也沒辦法沒有法定義務那這個呢在我進立法院的第一個應該是第一第二個月團體就來跟我們討論當時希望中央可以來訂定無家者專法\n310365\t331635\t我也找了衛福部來討論那當時我們知道衛福部也正在研擬社救法 修法的草案所以衛福部過去曾經主張就在社救法的修法當中併入無家者專章當時我們認為這個時程比較快但我們萬萬都沒有料到後來在野黨提出了才化法的修法\n332595\t353229\t所以導致於社就法修法原先院長有一個這個心願我們也很支持就是希望我們政府對於弱勢的照顧能夠來擴大但是呢現在因為裁員的關係社就法他也需要更多的討論因為他牽涉到執行層面所以我的建議是說有關於無家者的輔導\n355525\t372599\t讓地方政府有明定的法定義務我們是不是先來研擬無家者專訪讓無家者專訪先行衛福部有沒有辦法先來研擬這樣的方向呢謝謝委員特別關心到我們這個\n374371\t403479\t無家者或者是皆有的這些福利跟權益確實如同委員提到我們在去年113年曾經預告了社會救助法的修法的草案當時候如同這個委員提到現行的這個社會救助法就一條條文是跟這個皆有相關那在我們的草案裡面有增加到五條包含定義包含這個這個中央地方應該要這個如何來協助資源如何挹注\n405180\t418087\t從這個經濟安全從脫貧自利到這個社會投資有這樣的想法去規範但是確實預告之後也有很多的意見再加上社政法目前有預定要送立法院的時間嗎\n419188\t440603\t因為意見很多我們還在溝通另外就是一個變數就是這個還在溝通也還有裁員的變數所以院長我希望因為我們在台北市那剛好萬華區跟中正區台北市皆有的集中的熱點都在我的選區當中所以我們長期的在協助民間也來\n441403\t456437\t督促地方政府要來做皆有的輔導其實大量的需要安置的空間相關的輔助院長我們是不是可以來研擬無家者專法我們先行的來訂定我也會來提出草案那希望行政院可以來支持\n457418\t472763\t因為委員出身台北市議會有地方議會來到國會殿堂更了解地方對這些問題的直接面第一面的衝擊那也謝謝剛剛提到這麼多我覺得還是要回歸到整個地方的執行面來看\n473303\t492105\t那中央可以定一個方向大方向出來那剛剛提到我們因為現在在財化法的新法的制度底下中央的力量已經被削弱了很多所以如果讓地方能夠確實來執行中央可以有一個方向定出來但執行的過程還是要靠地方政府來完成的\n492489\t510670\t沒有錯 所以大的方向我認為我們先來訂定專法另外就是這個案件它是次案事件不要把它跟街友的案是不安置在一起談獨立事件我們大家也知道但是街友的輔助這個是進步的國家我們要一起來支持台北車站它絕對是一個重要的重大的關鍵基礎設施\n513372\t537725\t這個無家者專訪後續了我就持續來跟你們討論接下來要跟院長關心的是院長也很關心的10月10號新上路三天的教師身心調試假大家都非常期待因為我們既有現行的就是教師有七天的試假照理說七天的試假加上三天的身心調試假七加三應該等於十\n538405\t566573\t但是我們現在的算法因為你併入市價你們的7加3還是等於7只是他請假的要件比較簡化所以啦你把市價跟身心調市價併價計算我認為實質上等於教師有三天假被你們偷走了那所以全教總的批評非常的激烈喔我來跟這個院長分享全教總他說呢就是第一個你這個換湯不換藥因為教師的假期總額沒增加嘛\n568166\t581964\t大家期待已久都聽說有新的三天升薪條市價以為總額會增加就趕快因為你病入市價計算第二個我本來就有七天的市價你現在把我併進來我既有市價其實被你壓縮了第三個\n583326\t599998\t新增身心調適價的這個價別就是認為身心調適是一個符合也是我們賴清東總統的政見健康台灣身心健康的需求你們把身心調適併入市價請問現在有身心調適需求是很有事嗎\n600999\t616323\t是有事嗎你沒有去正面的去肯定他他本來就是一個理由所以我還是希望其實部長也有很多人跟你有過討論我還是希望我們可以來研擬這個身心調適價應該要還給教師\n622746\t640858\t我們這個制度先讓他上路是考慮到真正的有需求但是我們要考慮到整個所有的身份別的人他的這個公平性跟平衡性還要考慮到產業界跟這個放假日數的增加與否所以我們先用這樣的方式簡化他請假請試假的\n642740\t664881\t請併假的這個原因他不用去舉很多的例子先這樣來上路上路之後一定會引起社會的重視正面的反應很好很多我們就可以進一步來推動沒有錯上路之後也要請教育部行政院持續來關切因為馬上第一天台中市就發生了有老師要請假地方教育局說你先把七天試假用完再說\n666262\t680167\t這個沒有達到我們的初衷我知道教育部有關切所以滾動式來調整我還是希望朝向未來身心調適假三天還給教師這是應該的再來這個部長也很了解就曾經就在這個議場\n681627\t704162\t不久之前部長曾經承諾說要來研擬去提升我們基層教師的終點費來也朝這個方向來研議為什麼因為現在呢新聞報導很多專題都有年輕人沒有人願意來當老師出現教師荒還呢同時呢還出現行政大逃亡\n705373\t726516\t就是當教師線第一線的教學真的辛苦然後呢除了教學以外我們還要老師來兼做行政所以呢不只沒有人要當老師已經是老師了沒有人想要兼行政所以呢除了教師終點費要來提升這個方向我覺得要來研議以外呢我也認為導師費跟行政加給我們可以來研議調整\n728359\t752825\t因為這兩個工作都是老師在教學以外我們額外賦予他的工作院長你覺得我們能不能夠來當基層教師的後盾來去研擬因為我剛講這個終點費這20年來我們的基本工資剛剛院長有提到重要的我們各個行業別大家應該要去相互的注意20年來基本工資調漲的幅度187倍而20年來教師終點費的條幅是多少\n758430\t777464\t只有5%落後了我們一般社會勞工的37倍我們基層教師有這麼不值嗎教育部跟我們都有注意到這個重大的問題所以日前也有委員在這裡談過這樣的狀況我們也覺得這個不成比例的問題要趕快來解決\n778334\t804223\t我記得那天教育部他有一個說法部長我要拜託你了我們討論過很多次我們來想看到問題就要解決問題也許沒有辦法一觸可擊可是我們要開始演繹好不好一定要來提升我們基層教師的待遇部長謝謝最後因為剩下兩分鐘的時間院長必須跟你關切我很關心的就是有關於我們都市更新要加速危老條例\n805243\t831038\t不能落日這個非常關切的因為我的選區也是萬華區它的平均屋齡41年台北市最老的區域其中有近7成的屋齡都超過40年那這不是單一選區的問題全台灣都面臨這樣的就是我們都市需要來更新所以我聽說內政部有在研議危老條例因為按照現行法規一年半後就要來這個時間到期了是不是有嚴厲要來讓它能夠延長\n834000\t861693\t違老都更都是我們在明年度重大的推升內需的重要項目所以對違老都更都更我們會同時進行都更我們甚至在公辦自辦之外要推自主都更那違老的我們還有新的包括這個預算已經編進去了對整個老宅延壽機能復興計畫那裡面對達到一定條件的建築物達到一定年限的建築物我們會有一些補助的一個方案請次長說明\n862958\t881849\t圍繞條例過去幾年我們的成效非常好就是這8年來有近5000件的申請這要肯定內政部同仁的努力所以第一個我們希望新政院承諾圍繞條例不落日剛剛院長有提到的我們還有新增的項目對不對包括我們的榮獎是不是有新增項目公益設施 社福設施是不是會納入新增的榮獎\n883090\t900516\t也在跟社會溝通中我們的危老條例會在這個會期我們送到行政院來做備審因為危老條例裡面我們還會增加老宅延壽的章節讓整個的危老跟老宅延壽全部都可以一起整合讓整個社區能夠在地安老然後讓整個人民的生活環境比較好都市環境也變得比較好\n901107\t922653\t老宅延售就是有些房子可能要改建但是布丁馬上等得到所以我們先讓他安全要提升例如說有些老舊公寓沒有電梯的讓他增設電梯可以補助那過去呢像台北市他只補助公共設施未來我們內政部這個案件這個任性計畫剛剛曾經過嘛市內的修繕你們有沒有納入補助我們不是只有走走電梯還有傳進空\n938792\t939473\t好 謝謝吳佩儀委員質詢 謝謝卓院長\n","txt":"好謝謝主席我請行政院卓榮泰院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢吳委員好院長好前陣子就在我們台北市我們首都的國門台北車站發生了一起令人心痛而且震驚國人的性侵案件那其中後續的媒體傳播也讓國人更加的震撼\n那我們馬上呢就跟台鐵來關切在這邊我也要肯定台鐵跟鐵路警察局其實在第一天第一時間就做出了協調跟回應就是我們加強了這個台鐵站內的保全那下個月甚至會增加保全的人力讓他這個見人率見警率可以來提升不過也在這個案件的了解當中我發現我們這個台鐵站內的鐵路警察\n這個人力其實有一個很大的缺口我不知道院長有沒有了解我們的鐵路警察的員額是近900名那目前呢還有184名近200名沒有人啊\n缺額還是很大的對那鐵路警察要負責什麼呢台鐵總共242個車站還有高鐵12個車站沿路超過1000公里沿線都需要他們為我們來維護治安所以台鐵公會其實上半年就有提出來了因為他們發現我們台鐵自己內部的人員在站內巡查的時候光是上半年遭受攻擊的案件就多起所以院長我們能夠協助趕快來把這個鐵路警察員額有員額啊但是沒人能趕快把人來補齊啊\n了解上這個內政部警政署已經有一個擴大招生的計畫預計在未來的年度裡面要有大量的招生但是這個也要靠這個整個計畫能夠推動的這個順暢市長來說明來委員院長院員大家好\n那要跟委員報告就是說我們整個的目前在鐵路警察局的員額有910人那差額184人我們會透過那個警力的提供還有短期的計畫的方式來增加短期計畫我了解我現在在問員額有沒有逐年要去補對 總體的員額在115年我們要再派補3000人那在派補3000人裡面我們已經派補了2600人明年就會開始派補嘛\n請你們一定要去注意這個問題不要等到事件發生遺憾的時候才來發現人力不足這個是我們平常就要做的那除了鐵路警察人力以外有關於台鐵這個我們部長在這裡他非常了解過去我也多次請交通部來協助因為台北車站他是六鐵共購裡面還牽涉到台北市政府地下街有市場數有台北捷運公司常常需要台鐵需要跟台北市政府來進行協調\n所以我要請這個交通部也要大力的來協助台鐵現在我們有災防聯合中心嘛治安也是聯合的重點請你們來協助台鐵跟這個地方政府多來協調我希望未來台北車站的治安維護我們可以來提升整體的量能可以嗎\n好 我們來努力好 那這一個案件呢也引發了社會諸多的討論但我這裡要強調這一個個案從目前披露的資訊它跟街友是沒有任何的關聯的\n它其實跟街友無關但是因為台北市確實是我們全國為了服務有列冊的街友人數最多的一個城市那其中台北市當中又以台北車站是街友聚集最多人數的一個熱點所以過去我在擔任市議員的期間\n也多次也長期的跟我們台北市政府來關心有關於我們皆有安置皆有輔導皆有收容皆有的就業輔助等等相關的議題需要市政府地方政府要來協助那麼除了地方政府以外呢\n我們的法律基礎也是很重要其實院長我們現在有關於皆有輔導的在法律層面的條文就只有一條而已就是社會救助法第17條當中有提到文字是這樣警察發現皆有要通報社會局一起處理但如何處理呢由地方政府自定\n所以過去呢這個縣市地方議會有不同縣市議員跟我們反映因為沒有法源基礎沒有明定說地方政府輔助皆有的法定義務是什麼所以呢其實議會要監督政府常常我們也是狗吠火車\n就是說這個積極的地方政府他要做例如說過去台中市自己就訂定了自治條例他有辦法做但是不想做的地方政府你也沒辦法沒有法定義務那這個呢在我進立法院的第一個應該是第一第二個月團體就來跟我們討論當時希望中央可以來訂定無家者專法\n我也找了衛福部來討論那當時我們知道衛福部也正在研擬社救法 修法的草案所以衛福部過去曾經主張就在社救法的修法當中併入無家者專章當時我們認為這個時程比較快但我們萬萬都沒有料到後來在野黨提出了才化法的修法\n所以導致於社就法修法原先院長有一個這個心願我們也很支持就是希望我們政府對於弱勢的照顧能夠來擴大但是呢現在因為裁員的關係社就法他也需要更多的討論因為他牽涉到執行層面所以我的建議是說有關於無家者的輔導\n讓地方政府有明定的法定義務我們是不是先來研擬無家者專訪讓無家者專訪先行衛福部有沒有辦法先來研擬這樣的方向呢謝謝委員特別關心到我們這個\n無家者或者是皆有的這些福利跟權益確實如同委員提到我們在去年113年曾經預告了社會救助法的修法的草案當時候如同這個委員提到現行的這個社會救助法就一條條文是跟這個皆有相關那在我們的草案裡面有增加到五條包含定義包含這個這個中央地方應該要這個如何來協助資源如何挹注\n從這個經濟安全從脫貧自利到這個社會投資有這樣的想法去規範但是確實預告之後也有很多的意見再加上社政法目前有預定要送立法院的時間嗎\n因為意見很多我們還在溝通另外就是一個變數就是這個還在溝通也還有裁員的變數所以院長我希望因為我們在台北市那剛好萬華區跟中正區台北市皆有的集中的熱點都在我的選區當中所以我們長期的在協助民間也來\n督促地方政府要來做皆有的輔導其實大量的需要安置的空間相關的輔助院長我們是不是可以來研擬無家者專法我們先行的來訂定我也會來提出草案那希望行政院可以來支持\n因為委員出身台北市議會有地方議會來到國會殿堂更了解地方對這些問題的直接面第一面的衝擊那也謝謝剛剛提到這麼多我覺得還是要回歸到整個地方的執行面來看\n那中央可以定一個方向大方向出來那剛剛提到我們因為現在在財化法的新法的制度底下中央的力量已經被削弱了很多所以如果讓地方能夠確實來執行中央可以有一個方向定出來但執行的過程還是要靠地方政府來完成的\n沒有錯 所以大的方向我認為我們先來訂定專法另外就是這個案件它是次案事件不要把它跟街友的案是不安置在一起談獨立事件我們大家也知道但是街友的輔助這個是進步的國家我們要一起來支持台北車站它絕對是一個重要的重大的關鍵基礎設施\n這個無家者專訪後續了我就持續來跟你們討論接下來要跟院長關心的是院長也很關心的10月10號新上路三天的教師身心調試假大家都非常期待因為我們既有現行的就是教師有七天的試假照理說七天的試假加上三天的身心調試假七加三應該等於十\n但是我們現在的算法因為你併入市價你們的7加3還是等於7只是他請假的要件比較簡化所以啦你把市價跟身心調市價併價計算我認為實質上等於教師有三天假被你們偷走了那所以全教總的批評非常的激烈喔我來跟這個院長分享全教總他說呢就是第一個你這個換湯不換藥因為教師的假期總額沒增加嘛\n大家期待已久都聽說有新的三天升薪條市價以為總額會增加就趕快因為你病入市價計算第二個我本來就有七天的市價你現在把我併進來我既有市價其實被你壓縮了第三個\n新增身心調適價的這個價別就是認為身心調適是一個符合也是我們賴清東總統的政見健康台灣身心健康的需求你們把身心調適併入市價請問現在有身心調適需求是很有事嗎\n是有事嗎你沒有去正面的去肯定他他本來就是一個理由所以我還是希望其實部長也有很多人跟你有過討論我還是希望我們可以來研擬這個身心調適價應該要還給教師\n我們這個制度先讓他上路是考慮到真正的有需求但是我們要考慮到整個所有的身份別的人他的這個公平性跟平衡性還要考慮到產業界跟這個放假日數的增加與否所以我們先用這樣的方式簡化他請假請試假的\n請併假的這個原因他不用去舉很多的例子先這樣來上路上路之後一定會引起社會的重視正面的反應很好很多我們就可以進一步來推動沒有錯上路之後也要請教育部行政院持續來關切因為馬上第一天台中市就發生了有老師要請假地方教育局說你先把七天試假用完再說\n這個沒有達到我們的初衷我知道教育部有關切所以滾動式來調整我還是希望朝向未來身心調適假三天還給教師這是應該的再來這個部長也很了解就曾經就在這個議場\n不久之前部長曾經承諾說要來研擬去提升我們基層教師的終點費來也朝這個方向來研議為什麼因為現在呢新聞報導很多專題都有年輕人沒有人願意來當老師出現教師荒還呢同時呢還出現行政大逃亡\n就是當教師線第一線的教學真的辛苦然後呢除了教學以外我們還要老師來兼做行政所以呢不只沒有人要當老師已經是老師了沒有人想要兼行政所以呢除了教師終點費要來提升這個方向我覺得要來研議以外呢我也認為導師費跟行政加給我們可以來研議調整\n因為這兩個工作都是老師在教學以外我們額外賦予他的工作院長你覺得我們能不能夠來當基層教師的後盾來去研擬因為我剛講這個終點費這20年來我們的基本工資剛剛院長有提到重要的我們各個行業別大家應該要去相互的注意20年來基本工資調漲的幅度187倍而20年來教師終點費的條幅是多少\n只有5%落後了我們一般社會勞工的37倍我們基層教師有這麼不值嗎教育部跟我們都有注意到這個重大的問題所以日前也有委員在這裡談過這樣的狀況我們也覺得這個不成比例的問題要趕快來解決\n我記得那天教育部他有一個說法部長我要拜託你了我們討論過很多次我們來想看到問題就要解決問題也許沒有辦法一觸可擊可是我們要開始演繹好不好一定要來提升我們基層教師的待遇部長謝謝最後因為剩下兩分鐘的時間院長必須跟你關切我很關心的就是有關於我們都市更新要加速危老條例\n不能落日這個非常關切的因為我的選區也是萬華區它的平均屋齡41年台北市最老的區域其中有近7成的屋齡都超過40年那這不是單一選區的問題全台灣都面臨這樣的就是我們都市需要來更新所以我聽說內政部有在研議危老條例因為按照現行法規一年半後就要來這個時間到期了是不是有嚴厲要來讓它能夠延長\n違老都更都是我們在明年度重大的推升內需的重要項目所以對違老都更都更我們會同時進行都更我們甚至在公辦自辦之外要推自主都更那違老的我們還有新的包括這個預算已經編進去了對整個老宅延壽機能復興計畫那裡面對達到一定條件的建築物達到一定年限的建築物我們會有一些補助的一個方案請次長說明\n圍繞條例過去幾年我們的成效非常好就是這8年來有近5000件的申請這要肯定內政部同仁的努力所以第一個我們希望新政院承諾圍繞條例不落日剛剛院長有提到的我們還有新增的項目對不對包括我們的榮獎是不是有新增項目公益設施 社福設施是不是會納入新增的榮獎\n也在跟社會溝通中我們的危老條例會在這個會期我們送到行政院來做備審因為危老條例裡面我們還會增加老宅延壽的章節讓整個的危老跟老宅延壽全部都可以一起整合讓整個社區能夠在地安老然後讓整個人民的生活環境比較好都市環境也變得比較好\n老宅延售就是有些房子可能要改建但是布丁馬上等得到所以我們先讓他安全要提升例如說有些老舊公寓沒有電梯的讓他增設電梯可以補助那過去呢像台北市他只補助公共設施未來我們內政部這個案件這個任性計畫剛剛曾經過嘛市內的修繕你們有沒有納入補助我們不是只有走走電梯還有傳進空\n好 謝謝吳佩儀委員質詢 謝謝卓院長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.800 --> 00:08.343\n好謝謝主席我請行政院卓榮泰院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢吳委員好院長好前陣子就在我們台北市我們首都的國門台北車站發生了一起令人心痛而且震驚國人的性侵案件那其中後續的媒體傳播也讓國人更加的震撼\n\n00:33.740 --> 01:00.424\n那我們馬上呢就跟台鐵來關切在這邊我也要肯定台鐵跟鐵路警察局其實在第一天第一時間就做出了協調跟回應就是我們加強了這個台鐵站內的保全那下個月甚至會增加保全的人力讓他這個見人率見警率可以來提升不過也在這個案件的了解當中我發現我們這個台鐵站內的鐵路警察\n\n01:01.344 --> 01:13.178\n這個人力其實有一個很大的缺口我不知道院長有沒有了解我們的鐵路警察的員額是近900名那目前呢還有184名近200名沒有人啊\n\n01:17.052 --> 01:45.767\n缺額還是很大的對那鐵路警察要負責什麼呢台鐵總共242個車站還有高鐵12個車站沿路超過1000公里沿線都需要他們為我們來維護治安所以台鐵公會其實上半年就有提出來了因為他們發現我們台鐵自己內部的人員在站內巡查的時候光是上半年遭受攻擊的案件就多起所以院長我們能夠協助趕快來把這個鐵路警察員額有員額啊但是沒人能趕快把人來補齊啊\n\n01:47.831 --> 01:59.038\n了解上這個內政部警政署已經有一個擴大招生的計畫預計在未來的年度裡面要有大量的招生但是這個也要靠這個整個計畫能夠推動的這個順暢市長來說明來委員院長院員大家好\n\n02:04.468 --> 02:31.221\n那要跟委員報告就是說我們整個的目前在鐵路警察局的員額有910人那差額184人我們會透過那個警力的提供還有短期的計畫的方式來增加短期計畫我了解我現在在問員額有沒有逐年要去補對總體的員額在115年我們要再派補3000人那在派補3000人裡面我們已經派補了2600人明年就會開始派補嘛\n\n02:33.221 --> 02:59.647\n請你們一定要去注意這個問題不要等到事件發生遺憾的時候才來發現人力不足這個是我們平常就要做的那除了鐵路警察人力以外有關於台鐵這個我們部長在這裡他非常了解過去我也多次請交通部來協助因為台北車站他是六鐵共購裡面還牽涉到台北市政府地下街有市場數有台北捷運公司常常需要台鐵需要跟台北市政府來進行協調\n\n03:01.207 --> 03:18.317\n所以我要請這個交通部也要大力的來協助台鐵現在我們有災防聯合中心嘛治安也是聯合的重點請你們來協助台鐵跟這個地方政府多來協調我希望未來台北車站的治安維護我們可以來提升整體的量能可以嗎\n\n03:18.737 --> 03:32.967\n好我們來努力好那這一個案件呢也引發了社會諸多的討論但我這裡要強調這一個個案從目前披露的資訊它跟街友是沒有任何的關聯的\n\n03:33.928 --> 03:51.755\n它其實跟街友無關但是因為台北市確實是我們全國為了服務有列冊的街友人數最多的一個城市那其中台北市當中又以台北車站是街友聚集最多人數的一個熱點所以過去我在擔任市議員的期間\n\n03:52.375 --> 04:09.548\n也多次也長期的跟我們台北市政府來關心有關於我們皆有安置皆有輔導皆有收容皆有的就業輔助等等相關的議題需要市政府地方政府要來協助那麼除了地方政府以外呢\n\n04:10.348 --> 04:32.165\n我們的法律基礎也是很重要其實院長我們現在有關於皆有輔導的在法律層面的條文就只有一條而已就是社會救助法第17條當中有提到文字是這樣警察發現皆有要通報社會局一起處理但如何處理呢由地方政府自定\n\n04:33.106 --> 04:47.348\n所以過去呢這個縣市地方議會有不同縣市議員跟我們反映因為沒有法源基礎沒有明定說地方政府輔助皆有的法定義務是什麼所以呢其實議會要監督政府常常我們也是狗吠火車\n\n04:48.567 --> 05:09.845\n就是說這個積極的地方政府他要做例如說過去台中市自己就訂定了自治條例他有辦法做但是不想做的地方政府你也沒辦法沒有法定義務那這個呢在我進立法院的第一個應該是第一第二個月團體就來跟我們討論當時希望中央可以來訂定無家者專法\n\n05:10.365 --> 05:31.635\n我也找了衛福部來討論那當時我們知道衛福部也正在研擬社救法修法的草案所以衛福部過去曾經主張就在社救法的修法當中併入無家者專章當時我們認為這個時程比較快但我們萬萬都沒有料到後來在野黨提出了才化法的修法\n\n05:32.595 --> 05:53.229\n所以導致於社就法修法原先院長有一個這個心願我們也很支持就是希望我們政府對於弱勢的照顧能夠來擴大但是呢現在因為裁員的關係社就法他也需要更多的討論因為他牽涉到執行層面所以我的建議是說有關於無家者的輔導\n\n05:55.525 --> 06:12.599\n讓地方政府有明定的法定義務我們是不是先來研擬無家者專訪讓無家者專訪先行衛福部有沒有辦法先來研擬這樣的方向呢謝謝委員特別關心到我們這個\n\n06:14.371 --> 06:43.479\n無家者或者是皆有的這些福利跟權益確實如同委員提到我們在去年113年曾經預告了社會救助法的修法的草案當時候如同這個委員提到現行的這個社會救助法就一條條文是跟這個皆有相關那在我們的草案裡面有增加到五條包含定義包含這個這個中央地方應該要這個如何來協助資源如何挹注\n\n06:45.180 --> 06:58.087\n從這個經濟安全從脫貧自利到這個社會投資有這樣的想法去規範但是確實預告之後也有很多的意見再加上社政法目前有預定要送立法院的時間嗎\n\n06:59.188 --> 07:20.603\n因為意見很多我們還在溝通另外就是一個變數就是這個還在溝通也還有裁員的變數所以院長我希望因為我們在台北市那剛好萬華區跟中正區台北市皆有的集中的熱點都在我的選區當中所以我們長期的在協助民間也來\n\n07:21.403 --> 07:36.437\n督促地方政府要來做皆有的輔導其實大量的需要安置的空間相關的輔助院長我們是不是可以來研擬無家者專法我們先行的來訂定我也會來提出草案那希望行政院可以來支持\n\n07:37.418 --> 07:52.763\n因為委員出身台北市議會有地方議會來到國會殿堂更了解地方對這些問題的直接面第一面的衝擊那也謝謝剛剛提到這麼多我覺得還是要回歸到整個地方的執行面來看\n\n07:53.303 --> 08:12.105\n那中央可以定一個方向大方向出來那剛剛提到我們因為現在在財化法的新法的制度底下中央的力量已經被削弱了很多所以如果讓地方能夠確實來執行中央可以有一個方向定出來但執行的過程還是要靠地方政府來完成的\n\n08:12.489 --> 08:30.670\n沒有錯所以大的方向我認為我們先來訂定專法另外就是這個案件它是次案事件不要把它跟街友的案是不安置在一起談獨立事件我們大家也知道但是街友的輔助這個是進步的國家我們要一起來支持台北車站它絕對是一個重要的重大的關鍵基礎設施\n\n08:33.372 --> 08:57.725\n這個無家者專訪後續了我就持續來跟你們討論接下來要跟院長關心的是院長也很關心的10月10號新上路三天的教師身心調試假大家都非常期待因為我們既有現行的就是教師有七天的試假照理說七天的試假加上三天的身心調試假七加三應該等於十\n\n08:58.405 --> 09:26.573\n但是我們現在的算法因為你併入市價你們的7加3還是等於7只是他請假的要件比較簡化所以啦你把市價跟身心調市價併價計算我認為實質上等於教師有三天假被你們偷走了那所以全教總的批評非常的激烈喔我來跟這個院長分享全教總他說呢就是第一個你這個換湯不換藥因為教師的假期總額沒增加嘛\n\n09:28.166 --> 09:41.964\n大家期待已久都聽說有新的三天升薪條市價以為總額會增加就趕快因為你病入市價計算第二個我本來就有七天的市價你現在把我併進來我既有市價其實被你壓縮了第三個\n\n09:43.326 --> 09:59.998\n新增身心調適價的這個價別就是認為身心調適是一個符合也是我們賴清東總統的政見健康台灣身心健康的需求你們把身心調適併入市價請問現在有身心調適需求是很有事嗎\n\n10:00.999 --> 10:16.323\n是有事嗎你沒有去正面的去肯定他他本來就是一個理由所以我還是希望其實部長也有很多人跟你有過討論我還是希望我們可以來研擬這個身心調適價應該要還給教師\n\n10:22.746 --> 10:40.858\n我們這個制度先讓他上路是考慮到真正的有需求但是我們要考慮到整個所有的身份別的人他的這個公平性跟平衡性還要考慮到產業界跟這個放假日數的增加與否所以我們先用這樣的方式簡化他請假請試假的\n\n10:42.740 --> 11:04.881\n請併假的這個原因他不用去舉很多的例子先這樣來上路上路之後一定會引起社會的重視正面的反應很好很多我們就可以進一步來推動沒有錯上路之後也要請教育部行政院持續來關切因為馬上第一天台中市就發生了有老師要請假地方教育局說你先把七天試假用完再說\n\n11:06.262 --> 11:20.167\n這個沒有達到我們的初衷我知道教育部有關切所以滾動式來調整我還是希望朝向未來身心調適假三天還給教師這是應該的再來這個部長也很了解就曾經就在這個議場\n\n11:21.627 --> 11:44.162\n不久之前部長曾經承諾說要來研擬去提升我們基層教師的終點費來也朝這個方向來研議為什麼因為現在呢新聞報導很多專題都有年輕人沒有人願意來當老師出現教師荒還呢同時呢還出現行政大逃亡\n\n11:45.373 --> 12:06.516\n就是當教師線第一線的教學真的辛苦然後呢除了教學以外我們還要老師來兼做行政所以呢不只沒有人要當老師已經是老師了沒有人想要兼行政所以呢除了教師終點費要來提升這個方向我覺得要來研議以外呢我也認為導師費跟行政加給我們可以來研議調整\n\n12:08.359 --> 12:32.825\n因為這兩個工作都是老師在教學以外我們額外賦予他的工作院長你覺得我們能不能夠來當基層教師的後盾來去研擬因為我剛講這個終點費這20年來我們的基本工資剛剛院長有提到重要的我們各個行業別大家應該要去相互的注意20年來基本工資調漲的幅度187倍而20年來教師終點費的條幅是多少\n\n12:38.430 --> 12:57.464\n只有5%落後了我們一般社會勞工的37倍我們基層教師有這麼不值嗎教育部跟我們都有注意到這個重大的問題所以日前也有委員在這裡談過這樣的狀況我們也覺得這個不成比例的問題要趕快來解決\n\n12:58.334 --> 13:24.223\n我記得那天教育部他有一個說法部長我要拜託你了我們討論過很多次我們來想看到問題就要解決問題也許沒有辦法一觸可擊可是我們要開始演繹好不好一定要來提升我們基層教師的待遇部長謝謝最後因為剩下兩分鐘的時間院長必須跟你關切我很關心的就是有關於我們都市更新要加速危老條例\n\n13:25.243 --> 13:51.038\n不能落日這個非常關切的因為我的選區也是萬華區它的平均屋齡41年台北市最老的區域其中有近7成的屋齡都超過40年那這不是單一選區的問題全台灣都面臨這樣的就是我們都市需要來更新所以我聽說內政部有在研議危老條例因為按照現行法規一年半後就要來這個時間到期了是不是有嚴厲要來讓它能夠延長\n\n13:54.000 --> 14:21.693\n違老都更都是我們在明年度重大的推升內需的重要項目所以對違老都更都更我們會同時進行都更我們甚至在公辦自辦之外要推自主都更那違老的我們還有新的包括這個預算已經編進去了對整個老宅延壽機能復興計畫那裡面對達到一定條件的建築物達到一定年限的建築物我們會有一些補助的一個方案請次長說明\n\n14:22.958 --> 14:41.849\n圍繞條例過去幾年我們的成效非常好就是這8年來有近5000件的申請這要肯定內政部同仁的努力所以第一個我們希望新政院承諾圍繞條例不落日剛剛院長有提到的我們還有新增的項目對不對包括我們的榮獎是不是有新增項目公益設施社福設施是不是會納入新增的榮獎\n\n14:43.090 --> 15:00.516\n也在跟社會溝通中我們的危老條例會在這個會期我們送到行政院來做備審因為危老條例裡面我們還會增加老宅延壽的章節讓整個的危老跟老宅延壽全部都可以一起整合讓整個社區能夠在地安老然後讓整個人民的生活環境比較好都市環境也變得比較好\n\n15:01.107 --> 15:22.653\n老宅延售就是有些房子可能要改建但是布丁馬上等得到所以我們先讓他安全要提升例如說有些老舊公寓沒有電梯的讓他增設電梯可以補助那過去呢像台北市他只補助公共設施未來我們內政部這個案件這個任性計畫剛剛曾經過嘛市內的修繕你們有沒有納入補助我們不是只有走走電梯還有傳進空\n\n15:38.792 --> 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那這一個案件呢也引發了社會諸多的討論但我這裡要強調這一個個案從目前披露的資訊它跟街友是沒有任何的關聯的"},{"start":213.928,"end":231.755,"text":"它其實跟街友無關但是因為台北市確實是我們全國為了服務有列冊的街友人數最多的一個城市那其中台北市當中又以台北車站是街友聚集最多人數的一個熱點所以過去我在擔任市議員的期間"},{"start":232.375,"end":249.548,"text":"也多次也長期的跟我們台北市政府來關心有關於我們皆有安置皆有輔導皆有收容皆有的就業輔助等等相關的議題需要市政府地方政府要來協助那麼除了地方政府以外呢"},{"start":250.348,"end":272.165,"text":"我們的法律基礎也是很重要其實院長我們現在有關於皆有輔導的在法律層面的條文就只有一條而已就是社會救助法第17條當中有提到文字是這樣警察發現皆有要通報社會局一起處理但如何處理呢由地方政府自定"},{"start":273.106,"end":287.348,"text":"所以過去呢這個縣市地方議會有不同縣市議員跟我們反映因為沒有法源基礎沒有明定說地方政府輔助皆有的法定義務是什麼所以呢其實議會要監督政府常常我們也是狗吠火車"},{"start":288.567,"end":309.845,"text":"就是說這個積極的地方政府他要做例如說過去台中市自己就訂定了自治條例他有辦法做但是不想做的地方政府你也沒辦法沒有法定義務那這個呢在我進立法院的第一個應該是第一第二個月團體就來跟我們討論當時希望中央可以來訂定無家者專法"},{"start":310.365,"end":331.635,"text":"我也找了衛福部來討論那當時我們知道衛福部也正在研擬社救法 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所以大的方向我認為我們先來訂定專法另外就是這個案件它是次案事件不要把它跟街友的案是不安置在一起談獨立事件我們大家也知道但是街友的輔助這個是進步的國家我們要一起來支持台北車站它絕對是一個重要的重大的關鍵基礎設施"},{"start":513.372,"end":537.725,"text":"這個無家者專訪後續了我就持續來跟你們討論接下來要跟院長關心的是院長也很關心的10月10號新上路三天的教師身心調試假大家都非常期待因為我們既有現行的就是教師有七天的試假照理說七天的試假加上三天的身心調試假七加三應該等於十"},{"start":538.405,"end":566.573,"text":"但是我們現在的算法因為你併入市價你們的7加3還是等於7只是他請假的要件比較簡化所以啦你把市價跟身心調市價併價計算我認為實質上等於教師有三天假被你們偷走了那所以全教總的批評非常的激烈喔我來跟這個院長分享全教總他說呢就是第一個你這個換湯不換藥因為教師的假期總額沒增加嘛"},{"start":568.166,"end":581.964,"text":"大家期待已久都聽說有新的三天升薪條市價以為總額會增加就趕快因為你病入市價計算第二個我本來就有七天的市價你現在把我併進來我既有市價其實被你壓縮了第三個"},{"start":583.326,"end":599.998,"text":"新增身心調適價的這個價別就是認為身心調適是一個符合也是我們賴清東總統的政見健康台灣身心健康的需求你們把身心調適併入市價請問現在有身心調適需求是很有事嗎"},{"start":600.999,"end":616.323,"text":"是有事嗎你沒有去正面的去肯定他他本來就是一個理由所以我還是希望其實部長也有很多人跟你有過討論我還是希望我們可以來研擬這個身心調適價應該要還給教師"},{"start":622.746,"end":640.858,"text":"我們這個制度先讓他上路是考慮到真正的有需求但是我們要考慮到整個所有的身份別的人他的這個公平性跟平衡性還要考慮到產業界跟這個放假日數的增加與否所以我們先用這樣的方式簡化他請假請試假的"},{"start":642.74,"end":664.881,"text":"請併假的這個原因他不用去舉很多的例子先這樣來上路上路之後一定會引起社會的重視正面的反應很好很多我們就可以進一步來推動沒有錯上路之後也要請教育部行政院持續來關切因為馬上第一天台中市就發生了有老師要請假地方教育局說你先把七天試假用完再說"},{"start":666.262,"end":680.167,"text":"這個沒有達到我們的初衷我知道教育部有關切所以滾動式來調整我還是希望朝向未來身心調適假三天還給教師這是應該的再來這個部長也很了解就曾經就在這個議場"},{"start":681.627,"end":704.162,"text":"不久之前部長曾經承諾說要來研擬去提升我們基層教師的終點費來也朝這個方向來研議為什麼因為現在呢新聞報導很多專題都有年輕人沒有人願意來當老師出現教師荒還呢同時呢還出現行政大逃亡"},{"start":705.373,"end":726.516,"text":"就是當教師線第一線的教學真的辛苦然後呢除了教學以外我們還要老師來兼做行政所以呢不只沒有人要當老師已經是老師了沒有人想要兼行政所以呢除了教師終點費要來提升這個方向我覺得要來研議以外呢我也認為導師費跟行政加給我們可以來研議調整"},{"start":728.359,"end":752.825,"text":"因為這兩個工作都是老師在教學以外我們額外賦予他的工作院長你覺得我們能不能夠來當基層教師的後盾來去研擬因為我剛講這個終點費這20年來我們的基本工資剛剛院長有提到重要的我們各個行業別大家應該要去相互的注意20年來基本工資調漲的幅度187倍而20年來教師終點費的條幅是多少"},{"start":758.43,"end":777.464,"text":"只有5%落後了我們一般社會勞工的37倍我們基層教師有這麼不值嗎教育部跟我們都有注意到這個重大的問題所以日前也有委員在這裡談過這樣的狀況我們也覺得這個不成比例的問題要趕快來解決"},{"start":778.334,"end":804.223,"text":"我記得那天教育部他有一個說法部長我要拜託你了我們討論過很多次我們來想看到問題就要解決問題也許沒有辦法一觸可擊可是我們要開始演繹好不好一定要來提升我們基層教師的待遇部長謝謝最後因為剩下兩分鐘的時間院長必須跟你關切我很關心的就是有關於我們都市更新要加速危老條例"},{"start":805.243,"end":831.038,"text":"不能落日這個非常關切的因為我的選區也是萬華區它的平均屋齡41年台北市最老的區域其中有近7成的屋齡都超過40年那這不是單一選區的問題全台灣都面臨這樣的就是我們都市需要來更新所以我聽說內政部有在研議危老條例因為按照現行法規一年半後就要來這個時間到期了是不是有嚴厲要來讓它能夠延長"},{"start":834,"end":861.693,"text":"違老都更都是我們在明年度重大的推升內需的重要項目所以對違老都更都更我們會同時進行都更我們甚至在公辦自辦之外要推自主都更那違老的我們還有新的包括這個預算已經編進去了對整個老宅延壽機能復興計畫那裡面對達到一定條件的建築物達到一定年限的建築物我們會有一些補助的一個方案請次長說明"},{"start":862.958,"end":881.849,"text":"圍繞條例過去幾年我們的成效非常好就是這8年來有近5000件的申請這要肯定內政部同仁的努力所以第一個我們希望新政院承諾圍繞條例不落日剛剛院長有提到的我們還有新增的項目對不對包括我們的榮獎是不是有新增項目公益設施 社福設施是不是會納入新增的榮獎"},{"start":883.09,"end":900.516,"text":"也在跟社會溝通中我們的危老條例會在這個會期我們送到行政院來做備審因為危老條例裡面我們還會增加老宅延壽的章節讓整個的危老跟老宅延壽全部都可以一起整合讓整個社區能夠在地安老然後讓整個人民的生活環境比較好都市環境也變得比較好"},{"start":901.107,"end":922.653,"text":"老宅延售就是有些房子可能要改建但是布丁馬上等得到所以我們先讓他安全要提升例如說有些老舊公寓沒有電梯的讓他增設電梯可以補助那過去呢像台北市他只補助公共設施未來我們內政部這個案件這個任性計畫剛剛曾經過嘛市內的修繕你們有沒有納入補助我們不是只有走走電梯還有傳進空"},{"start":938.792,"end":939.473,"text":"好 謝謝吳佩儀委員質詢 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房子可能要改建，但是不一定馬上等得到，所以我們要先讓它提升安全，例如說有些老舊公寓沒有電梯的，讓它可以增設電梯並予以補助，過去像臺北市就只有補助公共設施；未來內政部針對這些案件，像韌性計畫剛審過，所以室內的修繕你們有沒有納入補助？"],["董次長建宏：有，不是只有電梯，還有環境空間、門面的拉皮，還包括室內空間的補助，我們會結合衛福部跟經濟部來做內部的整合跟整理，讓他們生活的環境更好、更節能。"],["吳委員沛憶：好，這個3年50億預算我們很支持，也認為很重要，希望我們可以繼續努力、加油，謝謝。"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝吳沛憶委員質詢，謝謝卓院長及相關部會首長備詢。接下來我們請馬文君委員質詢，廖偉翔委員請準備。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":462,"meet_id":"院會-11-4-5","speakers":["韓國瑜","蔡其昌","洪孟楷","陳素月","王育敏","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","蘇清泉","張宏陸","邱鎮軍","吳沛憶","馬文君","廖偉翔","林月琴","游顥"],"page_start":373,"meetingDate":["2025-10-21"],"gazette_id":"1148002","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1148002_00006","1148002_00007"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第4會期第5次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢─繼續質詢─","agenda_id":"1148002_00005"}}}