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00:00:03,964\n謝謝主席主席有請林部長請林部長\n\n2\n00:00:12,332 --> 00:00:31,579\n部長早我今天好幾題要問你首先我們當然就先從這個高市早苗開始好了他昨天呢已經當選了日本第104屆的首相那麼這張圖我們就可以看得出來其實他在擔任首相之前拜訪台灣那麼不只是跟您見過面跟賴總統也見過面這個我想台日友好\n\n3\n00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,462\n標題特別講說邁入新篇章我想這個絕對無庸置疑喔只是對於這個高四找苗上任之後那麼如何真正的來深化台日之間的友誼而且能夠更具體的包括爭取台灣能夠加入CPTPP這個部分有沒有機會更進一步喔部長你有沒有什麼樣的看法因為\n\n4\n00:00:57,771 --> 00:01:03,274\n我想在高四找苗之前月初當選日本自民黨的總裁的時候其實賴清德總統就有發文而他在賴清德總統的發文底下也特別留言了說對日本而言台灣是共享經濟價值的而且擁有緊密關係與人際往來極為重要的夥伴\n\n5\n00:01:21,104 --> 00:01:49,053\n珍貴的朋友那麼期待台日之間的合作與交流能夠更加深化在這個部分你看他都直接會在賴總統的祝賀上面去留言那就表示說這個部分是不怕大家看啦那麼也更強調了他挺台就是遵循過去安倍晉三的這種台灣有事就是日本有事的走向那麼您怎麼來評估目前接下來的台日之間的關係\n\n6\n00:01:51,641 --> 00:02:10,408\n我們對於高市早苗擔任日本的首相我們是除了恭賀以外我們也是當然有所期待那當然這個分很多的層次來看當然個人的友好關係那是一個可是我覺得日本他的國家利益出發\n\n7\n00:02:12,248 --> 00:02:31,592\n這個跟台灣的國家利益去找到最大的交集這個就是我們外交的工作嘛那你如果看到高市早苗這個首相其實他很清楚的政策主張不管是從安倍晉三時代他就參與期間所印太戰略另外在於對於台灣的關係上比如他的認為這些\n\n8\n00:02:35,673 --> 00:03:00,452\n科技產業他也具體都可以不看稿講的從半導體人工智慧然後到量子到這個其他的太空各方面的合作那其中有一個很重要是經濟安全所以經濟安全就涉及到CPTPP除了台日應該加強經濟的整合來支持我們的這個民主同盟以外那我們對\n\n9\n00:03:01,753 --> 00:03:14,692\n最近應該說最優先也最重要的就是我們期待高市早苗新的政府能夠支持跟協助\n\n10\n00:03:16,021 --> 00:03:40,469\n台灣加入CPTPP因為今年這個主辦國是這個輪席主席國是澳大利亞但是日本是倡議國當時就是安倍晉三前首相倡議那所以來實現這個這個日本的基本上就是說扮演一個主導角色沒有美國因為以前是TPP但是CPTPP是由日本主導那在12國裡面\n\n11\n00:03:42,210 --> 00:04:11,616\n日本也是我想是經濟這個不管是GDP或者是貿易是最大最重要的國家所以我們在這一點上希望作為短期台日之間努力的一個目標好那麼這個部分當然我們就希望因為剛好輪值國也是對我們非常友善的澳洲而目前當然換上了這個高市政府我們也期待就是以把這個當作台灣在推動台日友好當中的一個\n\n12\n00:04:12,076 --> 00:04:33,066\n目標跟進程不過在這個部分當然喔也因為現在日本的旅遊以及外國人越來越多所以日本是加嚴了對外國人的政策尤其是他們特別成立了一個監督外國人在日本的這樣的一個新事務局喔叫做與外國人有序共生社會推進企那麼尤其是現在在蔡政黨所推動的日本優先主義喔外國人這個問題當然就引發了焦點\n\n13\n00:04:41,170 --> 00:05:05,146\n雖然說我相信啦對日本人來講中國人跟台灣人不一樣他們是非常有感但是有一些新的政策跟措施的部分會不會對台灣的民眾造成困擾在這個部分比如包括像日本針對他們10月1號開始對外國人來加嚴護照的換發那麼其實台灣跟日本之間是有互惠的就是相互的證照的承認所以其實台灣的護照\n\n14\n00:05:07,928 --> 00:05:22,417\n台灣的駕照只要加上日文的譯本去做申請就可以換得日本的駕照這個其實我們不受影響但是在這個部分有沒有一定的宣傳因為我在網路上看到有一些人開始引起恐慌喔可是其實根本跟台灣沒有關係\n\n15\n00:05:23,177 --> 00:05:39,926\n再來是日本政府也加強跟提高了就是對於外國人對日本境內的一些投資從過去的五百萬日元現在提升到了三千萬日元等於增加到了六倍這些措施喔對於台灣來說其實影響不大但是都會造成一定的恐慌那麼尤其是我特別提起駕照這個問題\n\n16\n00:05:46,750 --> 00:05:54,225\n有沒有一些現在關注到的變成是台灣的駕照被盜用或濫用等等外交部有沒有做好一些宣傳跟準備\n\n17\n00:05:55,782 --> 00:06:20,954\n謝謝委員因為在10月1號的時候實施駕照換新的新制度但是我們向日本台灣交流協會台北事務所有交涉也確認他們有回覆說明這個新規定並不影響現有台日駕照互惠的措施此台灣駕照在日本短期開車的時候所需的相關資料跟作業還是按照現行的規定辦理我們會來加強宣傳\n\n18\n00:06:22,315 --> 00:06:43,601\n好但是就是包括你看我截的這個截圖喔就是因為現在外國人但是台灣除外因為台灣跟日本之間有駕照的所謂的這樣的一個互相認證的這樣一個措施所以台灣人的駕照變得非常的好用那就出現了中國人來假冒\n\n19\n00:06:44,281 --> 00:07:02,660\n台灣的駕照然後造勢之後或者是在被逮到之後這個部分我也希望外交部能夠留意然後也對國人做宣傳好不好所以他們日本會執法方面我想最重要是宣導讓台灣不要我們的駕照很珍貴的不要\n\n20\n00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:18,668\n不管是因著什麼因素啦有時候遺失啦或是是不是有一些什麼私下的這個有人去運用了我們一定要減少或阻止發生這種情形台灣駕照被盜用或者是可能是被犯罪集團怎麼樣去利用\n\n21\n00:07:19,008 --> 00:07:35,847\n好另外一個本席要關注的東西就是回到今天的主題喔就是我們在講有關於現在面臨跟美國進行的關稅談判的部分那麼現在這一個事件會不會影響到關稅談判那就是在9月24號的時候美國的\n\n22\n00:07:40,898 --> 00:08:05,032\n海關紀邊境保護局也就是CBC對於台灣可以算是過去我們一直認為是台灣之光的這個捷安特也就是巨大機械發出了假扣押令那麼這個暫時的扣押令呢是說因為我們在人權跟勞工的部分違反了他們的措施那我們都知道喔其實過去我們有一些漁工的問題\n\n23\n00:08:05,973 --> 00:08:26,793\n被幾次這種所謂國際組織來做提醒甚至於發出警訊甚至於有過去我現在列出來的三件有關於漁工的問題喔那麼我們現在就要來看專家都在提醒是說這個會不會是一個未來談判的時候變成是一個變數跟因數所以說\n\n24\n00:08:27,754 --> 00:08:50,415\n不只是傳產連科技業的勞權問題可能也會變成是跟美國在進行關稅談判當中的一個重要的因素我不知道外交部怎麼來看這個事件而且我知道9月30號這個巨大機械其實是有發函請勞動部經濟部跟外交部給予協助那目前這個案子的溝通狀況如何\n\n25\n00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,501\n報告委員我們在第一時間事實上從美出那邊得知他們這個CBT會針對捷安特有所謂戰扣令我們就開始協助捷安特就巨大機械他們的處理他們也做了一些說明因為這個最主要是有人檢舉然後有一些報導\n\n26\n00:09:15,672 --> 00:09:24,195\n這涉及到移工大概有兩個問題他們也都會改善雖然他們其實也是蠻好的一個企業一個就是所謂的移工引入的費用的問題另外一個就是所謂住宿環境的問題\n\n27\n00:09:31,818 --> 00:09:48,602\n而他們都用現在用最高標準就是避免任何爭議在這方面我想這展現他公司的誠意那因為現在要去交涉是美國CPT什麼時候可以把它解除那因為美國現在政府是關閉中嘛那現在主要的台灣的交涉單位會是外交部還是經濟部還是勞動部還是談判部\n\n28\n00:09:52,233 --> 00:10:18,608\n我想產業方面當然是經濟部那勞動部當然也有在協助不過站在我們外交部就是整體的所以這個部分我想已經在這個業者已經提出說明而且有改善的具體的回應在美國的交涉我們外交部在協助跟CPT這邊可以最快的時間讓他們可以去說明然後可以把它解除掉這個目前為止我想還是一個單一事件\n\n29\n00:10:18,868 --> 00:10:20,991\n所以你認為這個不會影響到接下來後續的談判也不會變成是說勞工議題也變成是接下來在經濟談判上面被拿出來因為有這些勞權的談判的導權的團體又或者是專家認為說這個就是有人檢舉\n\n30\n00:10:36,232 --> 00:10:46,837\n然後檢舉之後在還沒有確認這個狀況底下就已經先執行了戰扣令那麼會不會就是只是有嫌疑但就是以戰扣令然後來做擴大在未來談判的時候變成是勞權問題也被加入您怎麼看\n\n31\n00:10:53,274 --> 00:11:07,946\n其實美方一直有這方面的給我們的這個要求或壓力啦我們也盡量就是在符合國際的包括這些相關的人權公約等等不過就個案來講這個案子如果詳細去了解我想只要讓這個\n\n32\n00:11:10,748 --> 00:11:20,954\n巨大他們有機會去說明我想應該美方會覺得他們做了很多努力而且是一個很好的企業也不要因為這個單一事件去擴及到其他造成一些恐慌至於說勞權的部分我想這個案子也給我們我想有一些提醒因為現在就是國際人權團體對這些是很關注的\n\n33\n00:11:39,787 --> 00:11:39,807\n好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1078\t3964\t謝謝主席主席有請林部長請林部長\n12332\t31579\t部長早我今天好幾題要問你首先我們當然就先從這個高市早苗開始好了他昨天呢已經當選了日本第104屆的首相那麼這張圖我們就可以看得出來其實他在擔任首相之前拜訪台灣那麼不只是跟您見過面跟賴總統也見過面這個我想台日友好\n35520\t40462\t標題特別講說邁入新篇章我想這個絕對無庸置疑喔只是對於這個高四找苗上任之後那麼如何真正的來深化台日之間的友誼而且能夠更具體的包括爭取台灣能夠加入CPTPP這個部分有沒有機會更進一步喔部長你有沒有什麼樣的看法因為\n57771\t63274\t我想在高四找苗之前月初當選日本自民黨的總裁的時候其實賴清德總統就有發文而他在賴清德總統的發文底下也特別留言了說對日本而言台灣是共享經濟價值的而且擁有緊密關係與人際往來極為重要的夥伴\n81104\t109053\t珍貴的朋友那麼期待台日之間的合作與交流能夠更加深化在這個部分你看他都直接會在賴總統的祝賀上面去留言那就表示說這個部分是不怕大家看啦那麼也更強調了他挺台就是遵循過去安倍晉三的這種台灣有事就是日本有事的走向那麼您怎麼來評估目前接下來的台日之間的關係\n111641\t130408\t我們對於高市早苗擔任日本的首相我們是除了恭賀以外我們也是當然有所期待那當然這個分很多的層次來看當然個人的友好關係那是一個可是我覺得日本他的國家利益出發\n132248\t151592\t這個跟台灣的國家利益去找到最大的交集這個就是我們外交的工作嘛那你如果看到高市早苗這個首相其實他很清楚的政策主張不管是從安倍晉三時代他就參與期間所印太戰略另外在於對於台灣的關係上比如他的認為這些\n155673\t180452\t科技產業他也具體都可以不看稿講的從半導體人工智慧然後到量子到這個其他的太空各方面的合作那其中有一個很重要是經濟安全所以經濟安全就涉及到CPTPP除了台日應該加強經濟的整合來支持我們的這個民主同盟以外那我們對\n181753\t194692\t最近應該說最優先也最重要的就是我們期待高市早苗新的政府能夠支持跟協助\n196021\t220469\t台灣加入CPTPP因為今年這個主辦國是這個輪席主席國是澳大利亞但是日本是倡議國當時就是安倍晉三前首相倡議那所以來實現這個這個日本的基本上就是說扮演一個主導角色沒有美國因為以前是TPP但是CPTPP是由日本主導那在12國裡面\n222210\t251616\t日本也是我想是經濟這個不管是GDP或者是貿易是最大最重要的國家所以我們在這一點上希望作為短期台日之間努力的一個目標好 那麼這個部分當然我們就希望因為剛好輪值國也是對我們非常友善的澳洲而目前當然換上了這個高市政府我們也期待就是以把這個當作台灣在推動台日友好當中的一個\n252076\t273066\t目標跟進程不過在這個部分當然喔也因為現在日本的旅遊以及外國人越來越多所以日本是加嚴了對外國人的政策尤其是他們特別成立了一個監督外國人在日本的這樣的一個新事務局喔叫做與外國人有序共生社會推進企那麼尤其是現在在蔡政黨所推動的日本優先主義喔外國人這個問題當然就引發了焦點\n281170\t305146\t雖然說我相信啦對日本人來講中國人跟台灣人不一樣他們是非常有感但是有一些新的政策跟措施的部分會不會對台灣的民眾造成困擾在這個部分比如包括像日本針對他們10月1號開始對外國人來加嚴護照的換發那麼其實台灣跟日本之間是有互惠的就是相互的證照的承認所以其實台灣的護照\n307928\t322417\t台灣的駕照只要加上日文的譯本去做申請就可以換得日本的駕照這個其實我們不受影響但是在這個部分有沒有一定的宣傳因為我在網路上看到有一些人開始引起恐慌喔可是其實根本跟台灣沒有關係\n323177\t339926\t再來是日本政府也加強跟提高了就是對於外國人對日本境內的一些投資從過去的五百萬日元現在提升到了三千萬日元等於增加到了六倍這些措施喔對於台灣來說其實影響不大但是都會造成一定的恐慌那麼尤其是我特別提起駕照這個問題\n346750\t354225\t有沒有一些現在關注到的變成是台灣的駕照被盜用或濫用等等外交部有沒有做好一些宣傳跟準備\n355782\t380954\t謝謝委員 因為在10月1號的時候實施駕照換新的新制度但是我們向日本台灣交流協會台北事務所有交涉也確認他們有回覆說明這個新規定並不影響現有台日駕照互惠的措施此台灣駕照在日本短期開車的時候所需的相關資料跟作業還是按照現行的規定辦理我們會來加強宣傳\n382315\t403601\t好但是就是包括你看我截的這個截圖喔就是因為現在外國人但是台灣除外因為台灣跟日本之間有駕照的所謂的這樣的一個互相認證的這樣一個措施所以台灣人的駕照變得非常的好用那就出現了中國人來假冒\n404281\t422660\t台灣的駕照然後造勢之後或者是在被逮到之後這個部分我也希望外交部能夠留意然後也對國人做宣傳好不好所以他們日本會執法方面我想最重要是宣導讓台灣不要我們的駕照很珍貴的不要\n423160\t438668\t不管是因著什麼因素啦有時候遺失啦或是是不是有一些什麼私下的這個有人去運用了我們一定要減少或阻止發生這種情形台灣駕照被盜用或者是可能是被犯罪集團怎麼樣去利用\n439008\t455847\t好另外一個本席要關注的東西就是回到今天的主題喔就是我們在講有關於現在面臨跟美國進行的關稅談判的部分那麼現在這一個事件會不會影響到關稅談判那就是在9月24號的時候美國的\n460898\t485032\t海關紀邊境保護局也就是CBC對於台灣可以算是過去我們一直認為是台灣之光的這個捷安特也就是巨大機械發出了假扣押令那麼這個暫時的扣押令呢是說因為我們在人權跟勞工的部分違反了他們的措施那我們都知道喔其實過去我們有一些漁工的問題\n485973\t506793\t被幾次這種所謂國際組織來做提醒甚至於發出警訊甚至於有過去我現在列出來的三件有關於漁工的問題喔那麼我們現在就要來看專家都在提醒是說這個會不會是一個未來談判的時候變成是一個變數跟因數所以說\n507754\t530415\t不只是傳產 連科技業的勞權問題可能也會變成是跟美國在進行關稅談判當中的一個重要的因素我不知道外交部怎麼來看這個事件而且我知道9月30號這個巨大機械其實是有發函請勞動部 經濟部跟外交部給予協助那目前這個案子的溝通狀況如何\n531920\t534501\t報告委員我們在第一時間事實上從美出那邊得知他們這個CBT會針對捷安特有所謂戰扣令我們就開始協助捷安特就巨大機械他們的處理他們也做了一些說明因為這個最主要是有人檢舉然後有一些報導\n555672\t564195\t這涉及到移工大概有兩個問題他們也都會改善雖然他們其實也是蠻好的一個企業一個就是所謂的移工引入的費用的問題另外一個就是所謂住宿環境的問題\n571818\t588602\t而他們都用現在用最高標準就是避免任何爭議在這方面我想這展現他公司的誠意那因為現在要去交涉是美國CPT什麼時候可以把它解除那因為美國現在政府是關閉中嘛那現在主要的台灣的交涉單位會是外交部還是經濟部還是勞動部還是談判部\n592233\t618608\t我想產業方面當然是經濟部那勞動部當然也有在協助不過站在我們外交部就是整體的所以這個部分我想已經在這個業者已經提出說明而且有改善的具體的回應在美國的交涉我們外交部在協助跟CPT這邊可以最快的時間讓他們可以去說明然後可以把它解除掉這個目前為止我想還是一個單一事件\n618868\t620991\t所以你認為這個不會影響到接下來後續的談判也不會變成是說勞工議題也變成是接下來在經濟談判上面被拿出來因為有這些勞權的談判的導權的團體又或者是專家認為說這個就是有人檢舉\n636232\t646837\t然後檢舉之後在還沒有確認這個狀況底下就已經先執行了戰扣令那麼會不會就是只是有嫌疑但就是以戰扣令然後來做擴大在未來談判的時候變成是勞權問題也被加入 您怎麼看\n653274\t667946\t其實美方一直有這方面的給我們的這個要求或壓力啦我們也盡量就是在符合國際的包括這些相關的人權公約等等不過就個案來講這個案子如果詳細去了解我想只要讓這個\n670748\t680954\t巨大他們有機會去說明我想應該美方會覺得他們做了很多努力而且是一個很好的企業也不要因為這個單一事件去擴及到其他造成一些恐慌至於說勞權的部分我想這個案子也給我們我想有一些提醒因為現在就是國際人權團體對這些是很關注的\n699787\t699807\t好 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席主席有請林部長請林部長\n部長早我今天好幾題要問你首先我們當然就先從這個高市早苗開始好了他昨天呢已經當選了日本第104屆的首相那麼這張圖我們就可以看得出來其實他在擔任首相之前拜訪台灣那麼不只是跟您見過面跟賴總統也見過面這個我想台日友好\n標題特別講說邁入新篇章我想這個絕對無庸置疑喔只是對於這個高四找苗上任之後那麼如何真正的來深化台日之間的友誼而且能夠更具體的包括爭取台灣能夠加入CPTPP這個部分有沒有機會更進一步喔部長你有沒有什麼樣的看法因為\n我想在高四找苗之前月初當選日本自民黨的總裁的時候其實賴清德總統就有發文而他在賴清德總統的發文底下也特別留言了說對日本而言台灣是共享經濟價值的而且擁有緊密關係與人際往來極為重要的夥伴\n珍貴的朋友那麼期待台日之間的合作與交流能夠更加深化在這個部分你看他都直接會在賴總統的祝賀上面去留言那就表示說這個部分是不怕大家看啦那麼也更強調了他挺台就是遵循過去安倍晉三的這種台灣有事就是日本有事的走向那麼您怎麼來評估目前接下來的台日之間的關係\n我們對於高市早苗擔任日本的首相我們是除了恭賀以外我們也是當然有所期待那當然這個分很多的層次來看當然個人的友好關係那是一個可是我覺得日本他的國家利益出發\n這個跟台灣的國家利益去找到最大的交集這個就是我們外交的工作嘛那你如果看到高市早苗這個首相其實他很清楚的政策主張不管是從安倍晉三時代他就參與期間所印太戰略另外在於對於台灣的關係上比如他的認為這些\n科技產業他也具體都可以不看稿講的從半導體人工智慧然後到量子到這個其他的太空各方面的合作那其中有一個很重要是經濟安全所以經濟安全就涉及到CPTPP除了台日應該加強經濟的整合來支持我們的這個民主同盟以外那我們對\n最近應該說最優先也最重要的就是我們期待高市早苗新的政府能夠支持跟協助\n台灣加入CPTPP因為今年這個主辦國是這個輪席主席國是澳大利亞但是日本是倡議國當時就是安倍晉三前首相倡議那所以來實現這個這個日本的基本上就是說扮演一個主導角色沒有美國因為以前是TPP但是CPTPP是由日本主導那在12國裡面\n日本也是我想是經濟這個不管是GDP或者是貿易是最大最重要的國家所以我們在這一點上希望作為短期台日之間努力的一個目標好 那麼這個部分當然我們就希望因為剛好輪值國也是對我們非常友善的澳洲而目前當然換上了這個高市政府我們也期待就是以把這個當作台灣在推動台日友好當中的一個\n目標跟進程不過在這個部分當然喔也因為現在日本的旅遊以及外國人越來越多所以日本是加嚴了對外國人的政策尤其是他們特別成立了一個監督外國人在日本的這樣的一個新事務局喔叫做與外國人有序共生社會推進企那麼尤其是現在在蔡政黨所推動的日本優先主義喔外國人這個問題當然就引發了焦點\n雖然說我相信啦對日本人來講中國人跟台灣人不一樣他們是非常有感但是有一些新的政策跟措施的部分會不會對台灣的民眾造成困擾在這個部分比如包括像日本針對他們10月1號開始對外國人來加嚴護照的換發那麼其實台灣跟日本之間是有互惠的就是相互的證照的承認所以其實台灣的護照\n台灣的駕照只要加上日文的譯本去做申請就可以換得日本的駕照這個其實我們不受影響但是在這個部分有沒有一定的宣傳因為我在網路上看到有一些人開始引起恐慌喔可是其實根本跟台灣沒有關係\n再來是日本政府也加強跟提高了就是對於外國人對日本境內的一些投資從過去的五百萬日元現在提升到了三千萬日元等於增加到了六倍這些措施喔對於台灣來說其實影響不大但是都會造成一定的恐慌那麼尤其是我特別提起駕照這個問題\n有沒有一些現在關注到的變成是台灣的駕照被盜用或濫用等等外交部有沒有做好一些宣傳跟準備\n謝謝委員 因為在10月1號的時候實施駕照換新的新制度但是我們向日本台灣交流協會台北事務所有交涉也確認他們有回覆說明這個新規定並不影響現有台日駕照互惠的措施此台灣駕照在日本短期開車的時候所需的相關資料跟作業還是按照現行的規定辦理我們會來加強宣傳\n好但是就是包括你看我截的這個截圖喔就是因為現在外國人但是台灣除外因為台灣跟日本之間有駕照的所謂的這樣的一個互相認證的這樣一個措施所以台灣人的駕照變得非常的好用那就出現了中國人來假冒\n台灣的駕照然後造勢之後或者是在被逮到之後這個部分我也希望外交部能夠留意然後也對國人做宣傳好不好所以他們日本會執法方面我想最重要是宣導讓台灣不要我們的駕照很珍貴的不要\n不管是因著什麼因素啦有時候遺失啦或是是不是有一些什麼私下的這個有人去運用了我們一定要減少或阻止發生這種情形台灣駕照被盜用或者是可能是被犯罪集團怎麼樣去利用\n好另外一個本席要關注的東西就是回到今天的主題喔就是我們在講有關於現在面臨跟美國進行的關稅談判的部分那麼現在這一個事件會不會影響到關稅談判那就是在9月24號的時候美國的\n海關紀邊境保護局也就是CBC對於台灣可以算是過去我們一直認為是台灣之光的這個捷安特也就是巨大機械發出了假扣押令那麼這個暫時的扣押令呢是說因為我們在人權跟勞工的部分違反了他們的措施那我們都知道喔其實過去我們有一些漁工的問題\n被幾次這種所謂國際組織來做提醒甚至於發出警訊甚至於有過去我現在列出來的三件有關於漁工的問題喔那麼我們現在就要來看專家都在提醒是說這個會不會是一個未來談判的時候變成是一個變數跟因數所以說\n不只是傳產 連科技業的勞權問題可能也會變成是跟美國在進行關稅談判當中的一個重要的因素我不知道外交部怎麼來看這個事件而且我知道9月30號這個巨大機械其實是有發函請勞動部 經濟部跟外交部給予協助那目前這個案子的溝通狀況如何\n報告委員我們在第一時間事實上從美出那邊得知他們這個CBT會針對捷安特有所謂戰扣令我們就開始協助捷安特就巨大機械他們的處理他們也做了一些說明因為這個最主要是有人檢舉然後有一些報導\n這涉及到移工大概有兩個問題他們也都會改善雖然他們其實也是蠻好的一個企業一個就是所謂的移工引入的費用的問題另外一個就是所謂住宿環境的問題\n而他們都用現在用最高標準就是避免任何爭議在這方面我想這展現他公司的誠意那因為現在要去交涉是美國CPT什麼時候可以把它解除那因為美國現在政府是關閉中嘛那現在主要的台灣的交涉單位會是外交部還是經濟部還是勞動部還是談判部\n我想產業方面當然是經濟部那勞動部當然也有在協助不過站在我們外交部就是整體的所以這個部分我想已經在這個業者已經提出說明而且有改善的具體的回應在美國的交涉我們外交部在協助跟CPT這邊可以最快的時間讓他們可以去說明然後可以把它解除掉這個目前為止我想還是一個單一事件\n所以你認為這個不會影響到接下來後續的談判也不會變成是說勞工議題也變成是接下來在經濟談判上面被拿出來因為有這些勞權的談判的導權的團體又或者是專家認為說這個就是有人檢舉\n然後檢舉之後在還沒有確認這個狀況底下就已經先執行了戰扣令那麼會不會就是只是有嫌疑但就是以戰扣令然後來做擴大在未來談判的時候變成是勞權問題也被加入 您怎麼看\n其實美方一直有這方面的給我們的這個要求或壓力啦我們也盡量就是在符合國際的包括這些相關的人權公約等等不過就個案來講這個案子如果詳細去了解我想只要讓這個\n巨大他們有機會去說明我想應該美方會覺得他們做了很多努力而且是一個很好的企業也不要因為這個單一事件去擴及到其他造成一些恐慌至於說勞權的部分我想這個案子也給我們我想有一些提醒因為現在就是國際人權團體對這些是很關注的\n好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.078 --> 00:03.964\n謝謝主席主席有請林部長請林部長\n\n00:12.332 --> 00:31.579\n部長早我今天好幾題要問你首先我們當然就先從這個高市早苗開始好了他昨天呢已經當選了日本第104屆的首相那麼這張圖我們就可以看得出來其實他在擔任首相之前拜訪台灣那麼不只是跟您見過面跟賴總統也見過面這個我想台日友好\n\n00:35.520 --> 00:40.462\n標題特別講說邁入新篇章我想這個絕對無庸置疑喔只是對於這個高四找苗上任之後那麼如何真正的來深化台日之間的友誼而且能夠更具體的包括爭取台灣能夠加入CPTPP這個部分有沒有機會更進一步喔部長你有沒有什麼樣的看法因為\n\n00:57.771 --> 01:03.274\n我想在高四找苗之前月初當選日本自民黨的總裁的時候其實賴清德總統就有發文而他在賴清德總統的發文底下也特別留言了說對日本而言台灣是共享經濟價值的而且擁有緊密關係與人際往來極為重要的夥伴\n\n01:21.104 --> 01:49.053\n珍貴的朋友那麼期待台日之間的合作與交流能夠更加深化在這個部分你看他都直接會在賴總統的祝賀上面去留言那就表示說這個部分是不怕大家看啦那麼也更強調了他挺台就是遵循過去安倍晉三的這種台灣有事就是日本有事的走向那麼您怎麼來評估目前接下來的台日之間的關係\n\n01:51.641 --> 02:10.408\n我們對於高市早苗擔任日本的首相我們是除了恭賀以外我們也是當然有所期待那當然這個分很多的層次來看當然個人的友好關係那是一個可是我覺得日本他的國家利益出發\n\n02:12.248 --> 02:31.592\n這個跟台灣的國家利益去找到最大的交集這個就是我們外交的工作嘛那你如果看到高市早苗這個首相其實他很清楚的政策主張不管是從安倍晉三時代他就參與期間所印太戰略另外在於對於台灣的關係上比如他的認為這些\n\n02:35.673 --> 03:00.452\n科技產業他也具體都可以不看稿講的從半導體人工智慧然後到量子到這個其他的太空各方面的合作那其中有一個很重要是經濟安全所以經濟安全就涉及到CPTPP除了台日應該加強經濟的整合來支持我們的這個民主同盟以外那我們對\n\n03:01.753 --> 03:14.692\n最近應該說最優先也最重要的就是我們期待高市早苗新的政府能夠支持跟協助\n\n03:16.021 --> 03:40.469\n台灣加入CPTPP因為今年這個主辦國是這個輪席主席國是澳大利亞但是日本是倡議國當時就是安倍晉三前首相倡議那所以來實現這個這個日本的基本上就是說扮演一個主導角色沒有美國因為以前是TPP但是CPTPP是由日本主導那在12國裡面\n\n03:42.210 --> 04:11.616\n日本也是我想是經濟這個不管是GDP或者是貿易是最大最重要的國家所以我們在這一點上希望作為短期台日之間努力的一個目標好那麼這個部分當然我們就希望因為剛好輪值國也是對我們非常友善的澳洲而目前當然換上了這個高市政府我們也期待就是以把這個當作台灣在推動台日友好當中的一個\n\n04:12.076 --> 04:33.066\n目標跟進程不過在這個部分當然喔也因為現在日本的旅遊以及外國人越來越多所以日本是加嚴了對外國人的政策尤其是他們特別成立了一個監督外國人在日本的這樣的一個新事務局喔叫做與外國人有序共生社會推進企那麼尤其是現在在蔡政黨所推動的日本優先主義喔外國人這個問題當然就引發了焦點\n\n04:41.170 --> 05:05.146\n雖然說我相信啦對日本人來講中國人跟台灣人不一樣他們是非常有感但是有一些新的政策跟措施的部分會不會對台灣的民眾造成困擾在這個部分比如包括像日本針對他們10月1號開始對外國人來加嚴護照的換發那麼其實台灣跟日本之間是有互惠的就是相互的證照的承認所以其實台灣的護照\n\n05:07.928 --> 05:22.417\n台灣的駕照只要加上日文的譯本去做申請就可以換得日本的駕照這個其實我們不受影響但是在這個部分有沒有一定的宣傳因為我在網路上看到有一些人開始引起恐慌喔可是其實根本跟台灣沒有關係\n\n05:23.177 --> 05:39.926\n再來是日本政府也加強跟提高了就是對於外國人對日本境內的一些投資從過去的五百萬日元現在提升到了三千萬日元等於增加到了六倍這些措施喔對於台灣來說其實影響不大但是都會造成一定的恐慌那麼尤其是我特別提起駕照這個問題\n\n05:46.750 --> 05:54.225\n有沒有一些現在關注到的變成是台灣的駕照被盜用或濫用等等外交部有沒有做好一些宣傳跟準備\n\n05:55.782 --> 06:20.954\n謝謝委員因為在10月1號的時候實施駕照換新的新制度但是我們向日本台灣交流協會台北事務所有交涉也確認他們有回覆說明這個新規定並不影響現有台日駕照互惠的措施此台灣駕照在日本短期開車的時候所需的相關資料跟作業還是按照現行的規定辦理我們會來加強宣傳\n\n06:22.315 --> 06:43.601\n好但是就是包括你看我截的這個截圖喔就是因為現在外國人但是台灣除外因為台灣跟日本之間有駕照的所謂的這樣的一個互相認證的這樣一個措施所以台灣人的駕照變得非常的好用那就出現了中國人來假冒\n\n06:44.281 --> 07:02.660\n台灣的駕照然後造勢之後或者是在被逮到之後這個部分我也希望外交部能夠留意然後也對國人做宣傳好不好所以他們日本會執法方面我想最重要是宣導讓台灣不要我們的駕照很珍貴的不要\n\n07:03.160 --> 07:18.668\n不管是因著什麼因素啦有時候遺失啦或是是不是有一些什麼私下的這個有人去運用了我們一定要減少或阻止發生這種情形台灣駕照被盜用或者是可能是被犯罪集團怎麼樣去利用\n\n07:19.008 --> 07:35.847\n好另外一個本席要關注的東西就是回到今天的主題喔就是我們在講有關於現在面臨跟美國進行的關稅談判的部分那麼現在這一個事件會不會影響到關稅談判那就是在9月24號的時候美國的\n\n07:40.898 --> 08:05.032\n海關紀邊境保護局也就是CBC對於台灣可以算是過去我們一直認為是台灣之光的這個捷安特也就是巨大機械發出了假扣押令那麼這個暫時的扣押令呢是說因為我們在人權跟勞工的部分違反了他們的措施那我們都知道喔其實過去我們有一些漁工的問題\n\n08:05.973 --> 08:26.793\n被幾次這種所謂國際組織來做提醒甚至於發出警訊甚至於有過去我現在列出來的三件有關於漁工的問題喔那麼我們現在就要來看專家都在提醒是說這個會不會是一個未來談判的時候變成是一個變數跟因數所以說\n\n08:27.754 --> 08:50.415\n不只是傳產連科技業的勞權問題可能也會變成是跟美國在進行關稅談判當中的一個重要的因素我不知道外交部怎麼來看這個事件而且我知道9月30號這個巨大機械其實是有發函請勞動部經濟部跟外交部給予協助那目前這個案子的溝通狀況如何\n\n08:51.920 --> 08:54.501\n報告委員我們在第一時間事實上從美出那邊得知他們這個CBT會針對捷安特有所謂戰扣令我們就開始協助捷安特就巨大機械他們的處理他們也做了一些說明因為這個最主要是有人檢舉然後有一些報導\n\n09:15.672 --> 09:24.195\n這涉及到移工大概有兩個問題他們也都會改善雖然他們其實也是蠻好的一個企業一個就是所謂的移工引入的費用的問題另外一個就是所謂住宿環境的問題\n\n09:31.818 --> 09:48.602\n而他們都用現在用最高標準就是避免任何爭議在這方面我想這展現他公司的誠意那因為現在要去交涉是美國CPT什麼時候可以把它解除那因為美國現在政府是關閉中嘛那現在主要的台灣的交涉單位會是外交部還是經濟部還是勞動部還是談判部\n\n09:52.233 --> 10:18.608\n我想產業方面當然是經濟部那勞動部當然也有在協助不過站在我們外交部就是整體的所以這個部分我想已經在這個業者已經提出說明而且有改善的具體的回應在美國的交涉我們外交部在協助跟CPT這邊可以最快的時間讓他們可以去說明然後可以把它解除掉這個目前為止我想還是一個單一事件\n\n10:18.868 --> 10:20.991\n所以你認為這個不會影響到接下來後續的談判也不會變成是說勞工議題也變成是接下來在經濟談判上面被拿出來因為有這些勞權的談判的導權的團體又或者是專家認為說這個就是有人檢舉\n\n10:36.232 --> 10:46.837\n然後檢舉之後在還沒有確認這個狀況底下就已經先執行了戰扣令那麼會不會就是只是有嫌疑但就是以戰扣令然後來做擴大在未來談判的時候變成是勞權問題也被加入您怎麼看\n\n10:53.274 --> 11:07.946\n其實美方一直有這方面的給我們的這個要求或壓力啦我們也盡量就是在符合國際的包括這些相關的人權公約等等不過就個案來講這個案子如果詳細去了解我想只要讓這個\n\n11:10.748 --> 11:20.954\n巨大他們有機會去說明我想應該美方會覺得他們做了很多努力而且是一個很好的企業也不要因為這個單一事件去擴及到其他造成一些恐慌至於說勞權的部分我想這個案子也給我們我想有一些提醒因為現在就是國際人權團體對這些是很關注的\n\n11:39.787 --> 11:39.807\n好謝謝\n\n","segments":[{"start":1.078,"end":3.964,"text":"謝謝主席主席有請林部長請林部長"},{"start":12.332,"end":31.579,"text":"部長早我今天好幾題要問你首先我們當然就先從這個高市早苗開始好了他昨天呢已經當選了日本第104屆的首相那麼這張圖我們就可以看得出來其實他在擔任首相之前拜訪台灣那麼不只是跟您見過面跟賴總統也見過面這個我想台日友好"},{"start":35.52,"end":40.462,"text":"標題特別講說邁入新篇章我想這個絕對無庸置疑喔只是對於這個高四找苗上任之後那麼如何真正的來深化台日之間的友誼而且能夠更具體的包括爭取台灣能夠加入CPTPP這個部分有沒有機會更進一步喔部長你有沒有什麼樣的看法因為"},{"start":57.771,"end":63.274,"text":"我想在高四找苗之前月初當選日本自民黨的總裁的時候其實賴清德總統就有發文而他在賴清德總統的發文底下也特別留言了說對日本而言台灣是共享經濟價值的而且擁有緊密關係與人際往來極為重要的夥伴"},{"start":81.104,"end":109.053,"text":"珍貴的朋友那麼期待台日之間的合作與交流能夠更加深化在這個部分你看他都直接會在賴總統的祝賀上面去留言那就表示說這個部分是不怕大家看啦那麼也更強調了他挺台就是遵循過去安倍晉三的這種台灣有事就是日本有事的走向那麼您怎麼來評估目前接下來的台日之間的關係"},{"start":111.641,"end":130.408,"text":"我們對於高市早苗擔任日本的首相我們是除了恭賀以外我們也是當然有所期待那當然這個分很多的層次來看當然個人的友好關係那是一個可是我覺得日本他的國家利益出發"},{"start":132.248,"end":151.592,"text":"這個跟台灣的國家利益去找到最大的交集這個就是我們外交的工作嘛那你如果看到高市早苗這個首相其實他很清楚的政策主張不管是從安倍晉三時代他就參與期間所印太戰略另外在於對於台灣的關係上比如他的認為這些"},{"start":155.673,"end":180.452,"text":"科技產業他也具體都可以不看稿講的從半導體人工智慧然後到量子到這個其他的太空各方面的合作那其中有一個很重要是經濟安全所以經濟安全就涉及到CPTPP除了台日應該加強經濟的整合來支持我們的這個民主同盟以外那我們對"},{"start":181.753,"end":194.692,"text":"最近應該說最優先也最重要的就是我們期待高市早苗新的政府能夠支持跟協助"},{"start":196.021,"end":220.469,"text":"台灣加入CPTPP因為今年這個主辦國是這個輪席主席國是澳大利亞但是日本是倡議國當時就是安倍晉三前首相倡議那所以來實現這個這個日本的基本上就是說扮演一個主導角色沒有美國因為以前是TPP但是CPTPP是由日本主導那在12國裡面"},{"start":222.21,"end":251.616,"text":"日本也是我想是經濟這個不管是GDP或者是貿易是最大最重要的國家所以我們在這一點上希望作為短期台日之間努力的一個目標好 那麼這個部分當然我們就希望因為剛好輪值國也是對我們非常友善的澳洲而目前當然換上了這個高市政府我們也期待就是以把這個當作台灣在推動台日友好當中的一個"},{"start":252.076,"end":273.066,"text":"目標跟進程不過在這個部分當然喔也因為現在日本的旅遊以及外國人越來越多所以日本是加嚴了對外國人的政策尤其是他們特別成立了一個監督外國人在日本的這樣的一個新事務局喔叫做與外國人有序共生社會推進企那麼尤其是現在在蔡政黨所推動的日本優先主義喔外國人這個問題當然就引發了焦點"},{"start":281.17,"end":305.146,"text":"雖然說我相信啦對日本人來講中國人跟台灣人不一樣他們是非常有感但是有一些新的政策跟措施的部分會不會對台灣的民眾造成困擾在這個部分比如包括像日本針對他們10月1號開始對外國人來加嚴護照的換發那麼其實台灣跟日本之間是有互惠的就是相互的證照的承認所以其實台灣的護照"},{"start":307.928,"end":322.417,"text":"台灣的駕照只要加上日文的譯本去做申請就可以換得日本的駕照這個其實我們不受影響但是在這個部分有沒有一定的宣傳因為我在網路上看到有一些人開始引起恐慌喔可是其實根本跟台灣沒有關係"},{"start":323.177,"end":339.926,"text":"再來是日本政府也加強跟提高了就是對於外國人對日本境內的一些投資從過去的五百萬日元現在提升到了三千萬日元等於增加到了六倍這些措施喔對於台灣來說其實影響不大但是都會造成一定的恐慌那麼尤其是我特別提起駕照這個問題"},{"start":346.75,"end":354.225,"text":"有沒有一些現在關注到的變成是台灣的駕照被盜用或濫用等等外交部有沒有做好一些宣傳跟準備"},{"start":355.782,"end":380.954,"text":"謝謝委員 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