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00:03:41,932\n一被告可以申請最後的權利是由法官來採你看看立法院多麼尊重司法院那你們為什麼一定要硬拗明明是直播你們就要事後來播放這個跟整個邏輯是不通跟整個立法研議完全背道而止王烏蜜我知道\n\n11\n00:03:42,913 --> 00:03:48,405\n我不曉得你們在怕什麼直播有什麼好怕呢現在不是直播主一大堆嗎\n\n12\n00:03:50,031 --> 00:04:18,974\n你不呈現只是你們在組織法管理法庭管理辦法裡面不可以直播那你們就可以去變通方式可以讓有心合備可以讓他直播這也算是另外一種直播可是你們這個部分你們也不要可是我們立法研議本來就是要及時直播讓全民去看到我常講過啦真的啦\n\n13\n00:04:20,373 --> 00:04:39,505\n心裡無鬼心裡無邪不怕鬼你不知道在怕什麼所以台灣民眾黨一直主張今天逐波的並非只有針對特殊案件而是這是兩個要素最後還是要你們來裁\n\n14\n00:04:41,407 --> 00:05:08,630\n這種東西都已經達到這整個司法獨立尊重的情況之下王滬密麥克奧麥克奧所以我坦白講當然因為張祺凱他說媒體人出身我是從基層出身老百姓都一直在問要我問這個什麼叫做直播什麼叫做轉播這些東西不要再怕下一張\n\n15\n00:05:09,755 --> 00:05:32,858\n不要再怕所以我是覺得我還是鼓勵這是有一個制度可循也就是讓你們充分去設定一個非常完美的這些直播的制度可是你把它搞成事後來播放這個叫什麼紀錄片的轉播\n\n16\n00:05:34,059 --> 00:05:40,432\n所以王蜂蜜我說實在台灣民眾黨非常堅持跟國際接下來\n\n17\n00:05:41,994 --> 00:06:10,452\n跟國際歧視要接軌剛剛張旗開委員已經講得很清楚在落後的國家他們都已經在直播了所以我還是希望王滬密吳廷長還有我們李廷長刑事案件有可能社會矚目重大議案有可能被告願意來申請直播可是最後權還是法官你們不知道在怕什麼\n\n18\n00:06:11,567 --> 00:06:16,794\n我一個代表老百姓跟你們質疑就是心內沒啥\n\n19\n00:06:18,683 --> 00:06:42,291\n不怕鬼只要坦淡淡公平審判公開透明我看你們在那邊怕什麼嘛現在直播一大堆講快一點你今天只是今天馬上轉播給全民來看跟你整理以後再來播送給人民看\n\n20\n00:06:43,396 --> 00:07:10,656\n看起來似乎都是一樣但是完全不一樣因為你事後播放就可以加裝但是你直播你法官你檢察官有所政績成功在庭上這本來就是公開的東西啊你們現在不是有聆聽法庭嗎有延伸法庭嗎那為什麼不能直播所以我真的蠻建議啊我們\n\n21\n00:07:12,207 --> 00:07:36,040\n這個王滬密在這個部分我還是希望你們要重新再修改立法院這麼尊重司法院我不希望司法院瞧不起立法研友這一點我要拜託兩位廳長還有我們這個王滬密這裡要重新再來考慮我說實在\n\n22\n00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:47,710\n報告委員我們是非常尊重立法院的那有關於就是說我們我們不覺得啦有關於我們這個實事辦法其實每個委員的看法也都不見得那個一致\n\n23\n00:07:48,433 --> 00:08:08,720\n那沒有關係啊你們繼續啊我跟你講你們繼續啊做半套不如不做但是直播就直播怎麼會是事後轉播這種東西是違背國際違背立法之精神所以我以重心長給你一個好的建議真的\n\n24\n00:08:10,210 --> 00:08:37,943\n這個直播是未來國際之歧視更何況重要重要的這個法律程序跟事實的程序這個部分是要有形式重大社會矚目的案件才可以直播嘛不叫你每一個包括民視也來直播沒有嘛這就是社會矚目重大議題這才是直播所以我希望司法院\n\n25\n00:08:38,703 --> 00:08:45,336\n回頭是岸趕快把好好的直播的制度辦法把它重新修改好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n11314\t23402\t好 謝謝主席請司法院王滬密行政廳的吳廳長司法廳的 行事廳的李廳長好 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