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00:02:08,786\n我们对几个比较有需要这种定制型燃料电池的厂商像在各个工业区那我们会去主观的做主动做说明那另外我们还有一笔预算除了这个8E以外我们还有一笔预算是做微电网那做微电网的那这个办法我们也正在\n\n7\n00:02:09,446 --> 00:02:38,664\n好署長這顯然你已經準備好了可是你針對的就是在上一週我跟台電的總經理特別有提到了災後的一個重建我們希望強化這個電纜的一個抗災的一個韌性那有沒有要優先做就像我們這幾個那個區域在當然是颱風受創了這麼嚴重就是說不管是台南不管是嘉義這個地方你有沒有要優先施作呢\n\n8\n00:02:40,407 --> 00:02:58,409\n包委員這個台電的部分它是有九個示範場對但是我們有盤點過大概所謂的孤島裡面其中大概有53個他們是有這樣的需求而且很希望這樣做那我們會從聯署還有其他的部分\n\n9\n00:02:59,150 --> 00:03:27,059\n去满足这五十几个这个丹纳斯台风这个是一个专款专案我们受创的那个地方是最严重的为什么没有从我们这个地方开始先做呢这个倒是我特别疑问的报告委员这个议题我们有跟台南市政府开过会市长都亲自主持那也来协调一些教育局等等的一些单位一起来找位置\n\n10\n00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:49,802\n所以有優先要做嘛對不對那就是說我還特別在這裡提到了就是說你的韌性除冷的一個設備你必須要放在就是書上你的避難所啦你的避難所你要放在學校的體育館還是社區的活動中心甚至安置的一個中心是不是你們有一個完整的一個準備呢\n\n11\n00:03:50,683 --> 00:04:15,551\n是就是因为要安放在学校的场域我们希望是说因为要结合学校的太阳能但是安置的地方可能又是在活动中心所以如果能找到学校跟安置的活动中心是结合在周边的话那是最好的位置所以这个位置的选取是非常重要的一件事\n\n12\n00:04:15,891 --> 00:04:42,190\n那就是地方政府來建議你們我們中央來做在這裡我特別請教部長就是說你的整體在做災後的韌性的一個提升是不是應該納入新科技新能源那我們比照就是說我講一個幻例給你聽就是日本的那個河島河島的一個河災湖島的一個河災以後其實他們就轉型了轉型就是新能源新能源的一個建置\n\n13\n00:04:43,491 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