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00:03:42,783\n里面是不是有猪很重要的是这样一般人民出去买东西也不会去看细项他含的是什么通常也不会所以无论是农业部房检署或者是公务署都要朝这方面去努力防范境外\n\n9\n00:03:44,465 --> 00:04:09,839\n第二个你提到针对39个国家高风险国家入境旅客X光机100%检查行李到底有没有这样做房间署跟公务署如果我们看这个这一些媒体的新闻报道这是去年的12月15号事实上就没有啊\n\n10\n00:04:12,318 --> 00:04:40,314\n沒有完全的全部的來去做徹底的來去檢查事實上如果這樣的這個報導是正確的話事實上是沒有那我們怎麼樣應該要防範於境外這個才是最重要的好這裡面你提到除了旅客輸入\n\n11\n00:04:41,618 --> 00:05:08,743\n另外就是电商电商平台卖家这个怎么样去做最有效的去检查你这边都提到了防范查记遗传走失这个这些你都提了那怎么样去落实因为已经进来了之后怎么样去就很难了\n\n12\n00:05:09,656 --> 00:05:34,792\n有它的難度了所以境外防範與境外因為畢竟它是從國外來的所以這個部分是我們要去加強要去做的請問一下這個公務署要不要說明一下要怎麼樣去加強未來我先說明一下我想\n\n13\n00:05:36,307 --> 00:05:52,020\n謝謝委員的的一個說明我分兩個部分第一個部分就是整個境外的境外的防範是一個跨機關跨部會的一個合作我們在107年12月12號成立中央一面中心以後就就不斷的去檢討我們的強度是越來越強我們的強度從來沒有說107年跟現在\n\n14\n00:05:56,403 --> 00:06:25,051\n有越來越疏於管理而且是越來越精進越來越強所以我們才能夠守住這過去七年來的一個努力這第一個說明但是宣導宣傳的部分我要跟委員講就是農業部舊房檢署的部分他三千多萬刪了大概兩千萬但是就算預算被刪了我們還是非常努力的去做相關的一個宣導不會說預算被刪了以後而不做宣導沒有這回事我們還是很努力的去做相關的一個宣導\n\n15\n00:06:26,553 --> 00:06:55,714\n这个我刚刚讲了这个宣导要落实你光去那个媒体其实大家不会去在意不会去注意媒体的宣导是一个多元的不管是用媒体所以没有错我刚才从机场飞机上面的飞机上面的荧幕都有部长我刚刚的建议可不可以做就是说只要出国的乡亲你就告诉他不能买什么\n\n16\n00:06:57,814 --> 00:07:03,805\n進來可以嗎這個很重要這個最能落實啊不然一般鄉親也不會去注意啊\n\n17\n00:07:05,681 --> 00:07:33,953\n這個才是最能夠落實你們去處理好不好我們在今年的冬五節就有試著這樣子在checkin的時候就給他一段相關的宣導這個部分我想我剛才說的我們的邊境的防範的部分我們會不斷的清淨一定要去落實第二個難免看起來有疏還是有疏漏對不對所以進來了嘛\n\n18\n00:07:35,006 --> 00:08:02,085\n所以进来了进来了怎么办呢对不对这个部分就是说除以到底这个除以这个很多早该前面进除以养猪对不对这个就是你难以防范进来\n\n19\n00:08:03,410 --> 00:08:28,813\n你說你剛剛進進了很多我跟委員報告你剛才講到這個廚餘我跟委員報告一件事情就是我們現在廚餘養豬一定要經過徵主我知道你都有寫了啦對這個是一個非常重要所以廚餘養豬只要他經過合格的這些徵主的部分是一個安全的飼料我覺得不要去污衊廚餘養豬的部分第二個部分我想跟委員報告\n\n20\n00:08:29,514 --> 00:08:50,100\n就好像我們在路上交通事故頻繁的時候我們不能說因此而不能開車不能騎坡所以我們會精進整個廚藝的監管廚藝長的監管這個是大家的心聲那你認為說是可以防範的但是顯然沒有沒有防範好嘛\n\n21\n00:08:50,640 --> 00:09:05,342\n所以那個源頭很重要不是現在的疫調還在進行中所以它的來源到底是從哪裡來的我想我們還沒有辦法去做決定所以我們也不能說這個來源一定是從廚藝或一定是從哪邊因為在疫調沒有完成之前\n\n22\n00:09:06,523 --> 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