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00:00:38,453\n是林委員好部長你好部長我請教因為近日這個屢屢傳出國軍弟兄意外的事件不論是陳功嶺打靶意外或是軍官墮樓墜樓那請問國防部根據調查結果國軍的智商原因是因為工作壓力佔大多數還是這個感情因素佔大多數我是不是請站舉先\n\n3\n00:00:40,706 --> 00:00:59,362\n委員好我是政戰局長跟你們報告今年對於自我傷害發生的原因比較多是情感跟家庭的一些因素那麼我們對於官兵的心理照護其實是非常重視所以包含了每一件事情發生之後\n\n4\n00:01:00,123 --> 00:01:02,467\n我們對於他的個人部隊適應狀況還有家庭的情況個人的財務情感我們都會務實的去檢討避免下一個案子再發生那個部長因為\n\n5\n00:01:14,196 --> 00:01:38,229\n國安部要做好官兵心理輔導那請問國軍的心理健康照護方案提供每個人每年六次的民間免費心理諮商的服務是否有相關統計可以說明今年的一到八月國軍有多少人使用那國軍心理健康的這些照顧的方案\n\n6\n00:01:39,848 --> 00:02:01,234\n我們是今年2月13號才啟用到9月30號為止是4,375人次我想我們這些他可以進行這樣子的一個獲得這樣的補助來協助解決官兵的心理困擾我覺得有一定程度的注意我是希望要落實\n\n7\n00:02:02,655 --> 00:02:20,972\n是我想官兵應該是要維護官兵的心理健康我們就會盡量來提供這些多元的輔導部長我再請教彈藥庫是零幣設施的民眾不希望住家附近有彈藥庫可是沒有彈藥庫則無法發揮\n\n8\n00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:33,950\n國防的戰力來保家衛國那過去2023年3月邱國正前部長在綠好院被刑的時候表示\n\n9\n00:02:35,299 --> 00:02:58,571\n台美正在研議是否將原本放在日本韓國菲律賓的儲備的彈藥改存放到台灣那時間拉回到現在媒體報導顧部長說強化國土防衛韌性部分第一是相當重要的彈藥庫整建那我請問顧部長彈藥庫整建是否\n\n10\n00:03:03,807 --> 00:03:21,699\n這個跟存放美國這個儲備彈藥有關我想還是我們自有的彈藥的存量這個存量必須要充足而且我們也買了很多新式的武器裝備所以需要有足夠的這些庫儲的設施這樣喔這個\n\n11\n00:03:25,168 --> 00:03:37,043\n本席也跟顧部長確認彈藥庫整建的意思是在既有的彈藥庫設施進行改善還是會在新的地方來設立全新的彈藥庫\n\n12\n00:03:38,636 --> 00:04:02,706\n我們在這一次的特別預算如果您問的是這個這兩年期的特別預算都是屬於整建的部分至於新建的部分它期程比較長沒有放在這一次兩年期的特別預算這是屬於另外的本席要提醒要是新設代號庫本席希望國防部做好跟附近社區住戶的民意多做溝通\n\n13\n00:04:03,989 --> 00:04:28,915\n我們都新建的部分都是一定要按這個法定的程序來進行近日有媒體提問說美國總統川普是否會為了以習近平達成協議而犧牲美國對台灣的支持川普總統則沒有正面上的回覆提問那今年六月民主基金會民調指出67%的民眾\n\n14\n00:04:32,869 --> 00:04:59,922\n認為美國是將台灣作為與中國對抗的籌碼而且66%的民眾認為美國總統川普會為了美國的利益來出賣台灣喔有三分之二的人喔那美國是否是可靠的盟友民眾對美國是擔憂的我已經希望國防部不要忽視要認真的來看待部長你有什麼看法\n\n15\n00:05:02,125 --> 00:05:10,315\n跟委員報告我覺得在安全這個議題上面維持整個印太區域的和平穩定是美國的核心利益美國\n\n16\n00:05:12,553 --> 00:05:35,398\n總統川普也一直在說明就是他絕不容許這個戰爭的發生而且我看他的講話也提到最近是講說美國軍力強大所以我想他還是以實力作為一個嚇阻的基礎而且在印太有任何的戰事發生也就是說現狀被破壞就現狀沒辦法維持的話對美國來講是\n\n17\n00:05:38,106 --> 00:05:52,151\n一個核心利益的一個喪失所以我想美國一定在安全的議題上面是不可能讓步的我希望如此啦據瞭解空軍戰機飛行員的訓練由三階段三種機改為三階段兩種機兩機種\n\n18\n00:05:55,692 --> 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