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00:01:50,093\n因為金管會它的一個虛擬資產服務法這個就進入已經是行政院在審查要進來給我們立法院裡面就會有一張是純粹是就穩定幣的一個所以這個會\n\n7\n00:02:11,605 --> 00:02:29,689\n這個待會我們會再問一下這個總裁我想問現在這個虛擬世界都是美元啦90%以上的話這會影響我們新台幣的跟台灣的這個金融穩定跟金融韌性啊可能潛在影響還是會有啦對不對所以也是為什麼您之前開始比較對穩定幣的說法比較開放了是這樣對嗎\n\n8\n00:02:32,690 --> 00:02:48,017\n基本上我們也希望這個就是說那個彭主委他也認為就是說是有發展空間那中央銀行也是認為就是說是因為如果說我們的一個金融資產把它數位化\n\n9\n00:02:49,242 --> 00:02:51,464\n把它代幣化代幣化了以後第一個我們虛擬資產以新台幣計價的它就會比較蓬勃的發展這是第一個第二個在虛擬資產以新台幣來計價的會比較蓬勃發展以外穩定幣新台幣以新台幣計價的穩定幣它才比較有發展的空間\n\n10\n00:03:16,284 --> 00:03:39,766\n我們的想法是這樣太好了謝謝因為其實我們看到報告裡面還有金管會的報告都有提到其實證券期貨業保險業三業合計其實1到8月稅前盈餘6000億元較去年同期減少2000億其實就是受到台幣升值的影響未來如果新台幣的流通減少確實就有可能在匯率上面\n\n11\n00:03:40,927 --> 00:03:58,875\n會有所不利啦所以我相信您應該也理解說跟美元這樣的深度綁定也許不太算是一個健康的方向未來如果能夠透過台幣穩定幣或者這個所謂代幣化的這個市場我們台灣的加入應該可以持續的來緩解這樣的一個狀態你同意嗎\n\n12\n00:04:02,069 --> 00:04:17,143\n可以啦我想就是說這個今晚會他要推出這個當然我想也有他的原因啦那在這裡呢這個法呢我想中央銀行一定會\n\n13\n00:04:18,504 --> 00:04:40,779\n會來協助他們太好了我先這個肯定央行因為早期老實說我也是CBDC的支持者但是後來看了非常多的分析報告我們對於零售型的CBDC確實有一些疑慮所以我也予以肯定說央行目前是認為零售型的CBDC沒有急迫性這樣的做法我們是肯定的\n\n14\n00:04:41,539 --> 00:05:02,334\n那我想接下來也還是要提到您剛剛說央行會支持這個虛擬資產服務法那其實這裡面有一個章節就是穩定幣那我們現在看到啦從今年的十月份法國銀行巨頭要發行這個FollowMicra的這個穩定幣然後呢日本的三大銀行也聯手要發行了\n\n15\n00:05:02,934 --> 00:05:31,047\n那我們現在就真的是意識到其實穩定幣已經在貿易裡面非常受到重視我們台灣有167萬家的中小企業裡面對接國際的賣家我們其實有看到貿易協會10月20號公布的調查近半數受訪台灣企業認為穩定幣將在貿易中扮演重要的角色想要展開出息應用的近一成\n\n16\n00:05:31,607 --> 00:05:45,938\n海外台商也有將近一成已經在使用穩定幣而調查結果認為穩定幣對貿易的重要性的預估是接近50%認為是很重要的那我想未來這個穩定幣我們應該要採取在供鏈上面發行\n\n17\n00:05:47,239 --> 00:06:11,168\n那未來也許央行會不會有所擔心說在RWA形式的這種穩定幣會不會可能跟我們的貨幣會有一些互動的關係會不會央行會去討論發行的總限制量或者管制可收發的一些機制央行內部有沒有跟金管會這裡有討論到這個部分到目前為止是\n\n18\n00:06:12,548 --> 00:06:29,345\n因為還是在行政院的所以我們會持續跟今晚會來討論這個問題好最後一點點時間因為近期我們看到我們的實體貿易其實佔台灣可能超過八成\n\n19\n00:06:30,126 --> 00:06:56,334\n那實體貿易就會受到我們的關稅還有各種這個國與國關係的影響那我們就必然要把很多的經濟或者我們的貿易的這個金融轉到數位的世界來保存我們的韌性跟主權那我們現在看到這樣的事情已經發生了整個實體產業又要被抓去其他的國家也許數位經濟確實是我們的一條活路跟活水\n\n20\n00:06:57,014 --> 00:07:20,287\n那我們這個根據報表我們看到下周是財委會就要排我們的虛擬資產服務專法還有執法的報告但是您剛剛提到央行支持可是行政院到現在一直還沒有送進立法院那我想這個卡應該不是卡在央行吧應該不會啦那有沒有這個總裁有沒有知道大概什麼時候可以送進來\n\n21\n00:07:20,987 --> 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