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00:00:48,994\n如果從這個訂戶數來看最近十年的高峰應該是在2017年還有523萬戶那直到2023年就只剩下了452萬戶就消失了71萬戶所以目前有限電視家庭的普及率已經不到五成了\n\n3\n00:00:49,674 --> 00:01:04,152\n那这针对这样子的一个收视习惯的一个改变有关这个传统的这个传播产业的这样子的一个面临的一个困境我不晓得说我们NCC的态度如何\n\n4\n00:01:04,913 --> 00:01:21,783\n是要積極的想辦法來協助還是說就消極的讓這個業者呢自生自滅是的各位報告我們NC態度是積極協助業者轉型那從這個102年開始以來我們協助他數位化因為\n\n5\n00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:38,830\n收視的這一塊是下滑是全球的趨勢但是現在全球包括美國的兩大業者不管是CAMCAT還是CABLEONE他們其實跟國內做法一樣都是說有些電視收訊\n\n6\n00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:56,891\n加上寬頻上網要結合在一起甚至於有些是結合手機都可以看有線電視這一塊其實國內的步調其實一致的所以我們大概有四個步驟大概在我們報告有提到第一個我們是妥善利用有線基金來補助業者來鋪設4K計算盒\n\n7\n00:01:58,152 --> 00:02:23,992\n然後之前過去十年大概也是有限基金讓他們做有限電視數位化這已經幾乎已經完成全部64家SO都已經完成數位化那第二個是利用有限基金來做一些在地的連結增加用戶的黏著度包括提供社區智慧型運用社區關懷等等那也製作一些地方的一些節目\n\n8\n00:02:24,833 --> 00:02:47,165\n第三個其實也是最後一個大概就是說鼓勵業者跟OTTV來合作那其實目前SO特別是MSO大概都有跟這個既有的國內國外或者那些OTTV的一些平台來合作那本身的話其實他們這個效果也很好可以綁住用戶那我們相信這個搜訊的趨勢雖然是下滑\n\n9\n00:02:47,805 --> 00:03:16,765\n但是應該會有一個底在那邊那未來其實過去大家開玩笑說以前是買有線電視送寬頻那現在很多的情況是轉向是逆轉有些是買寬頻送有線電視它費用其實總結來看就是寬頻是未來趨勢那他們必須要轉型那國外像我剛剛講美國的情況也是這麼做那我們也鼓勵業者朝向這方面來做\n\n10\n00:03:17,757 --> 00:03:31,556\n是因為剛剛主委有提到說這個是世界各國同樣的一個情勢面對的一個狀況所以我們也看到就是說即使世界各國也都是積極的在因應希望協助他們國內的業者因應這個網路時代對\n\n11\n00:03:33,498 --> 00:03:51,933\n傳統的這個通訊傳播市場帶來的一個衝擊所以我們也看到了日本他有提出了這個中長期的一個計畫那韓國也是透過法規的檢討讓這個就是制度能夠更加的一個靈活然後因應這個科技的日新月異那我們也知道就是說這個網際網路對廣電媒體的影響也不是\n\n12\n00:03:55,055 --> 00:04:13,708\n突然發生的那也是持續性的一個問題所以我們也希望就是說我們NCC在面對這樣子的一個時代的潮流我們應該就是要有更積極的一個態度那我們也看到就是說剛剛主委有提到這個有限基金的補助是指廣電基金嗎還是\n\n13\n00:04:14,774 --> 00:04:40,228\n就是有限基金有限電視它的營收的百分之一是要納入基金這個是純粹是有限電視的有限電視的基金這個真的就是一個很現實的問題而且是互為因果的問題因為訂閱戶數的一個減少所以這個營收也減少了所以也相連帶的影響了我們廣電基金的收入的來源對不對\n\n14\n00:04:41,329 --> 00:05:05,058\n因為我們看到有線電視的營收它從2014年的298億元直到2023年就只剩227億元那10年間減少了這個幅度達24%那我們知道就是廣電基金的收入來源依照有線電視廣播法的第45條第一項的規定就是系統經營者每年就是提撥當年營業額的1%給\n\n15\n00:05:07,859 --> 00:05:18,564\n這個基金那我們依照這樣子的一個減少的一個幅度目前我們看起來我們的基金近三年來我們從這個111年我們的基金收入還有3億820萬8千元那在112年就只有2億9651億5千元到去年113年就剩下2億8439萬4千元所以這個基金的收入的一個\n\n16\n00:05:35,371 --> 00:06:04,630\n减少也是一个非常现实的一个状况那在这样子一个收入减少的状况下我们还要有能力有那个充裕的那个裁员去辅导这个业者吗就是三亿掉到两亿九两亿八对你要怎样去维持这个收入稳定或者是有应该没有其他的管道吧增加这个收入就是纯粹数学问题要么百分之一变百分之高一点但是这不太可能的\n\n17\n00:06:04,910 --> 00:06:31,144\n另外就是用戶數要維持住都是我剛剛跟委員報告要讓郵電用戶的黏著度來提升我們就有請業者來做一些跨域的合作都剛剛講了跟社區或跟地方政府做一些智慧型的一些應用還有包括跟OTD的合作很多是買有線電視他會送你OTD的一些視訊服那這一塊其實就保住了用戶的流失\n\n18\n00:06:32,245 --> 00:06:48,281\n是就是其實你說跟OTT的合作那我們OTT的這個領域也是有面臨很多的問題因為在我記得是在兩年前我們有公布這個網際網路視聽服務管理法的草案\n\n19\n00:06:49,302 --> 00:07:07,988\n是在2020年的時候我們有公佈也有辦這個公聽會可是目前這個草案就已經就是都沒有進度跟我們報告文說的對我們OTTV法第一版是109年第二版是111年那是跟業者持續來溝通\n\n20\n00:07:08,368 --> 00:07:30,966\n那11年之後12年13年那後來因為委員會沒辦法組成那涉及到法案的部分那必須要有委員會組成才能夠來做後續的一些預告或是甚至於是報給行政院等等那另外一個問題其實在第二版的111年的OTTV法裡頭跟外界溝通的結果其實業者\n\n21\n00:07:31,767 --> 00:07:54,165\n相對是比較沒有共識的這一塊我們也會持續觀察國際的一些怎麼做法其實國際上目前幾乎是沒有一個國家針對OTD來定專法但是他們要嘛就是併在既有的廣電法或者併到什麼類似的電信的領域的一些作用法去處理這個也在我們的一些參考的範圍內我們未來也會持續來檢討\n\n22\n00:07:56,505 --> 00:08:20,440\n是因為OTT這個領域就是事實上如果說沒有這個非法侵權的問題的話就這個部分對我們整個國內的影視產業來說這個是有很高的一個產值可是我們現在面臨的一個很大的問題就是境外盜版影音網站或者是就是這個盜版的影音APP上架的這個部分的問題所以也對我們\n\n23\n00:08:22,481 --> 00:08:44,480\n整個國內OTT產業造成很大衝擊當然也連帶的對於我們有關這個有線電視業者的經營也是有很大連帶的影響所以我們知道OTT的崛起是網路時代沒有辦法忽視的一個發展然後也不可逆的一個發展所以如何讓這個OTT的一個發展的環境能夠更符合我們台灣\n\n24\n00:08:45,241 --> 00:08:52,415\n的法令跟符合我們台灣影視產業的發展我想這個NCC也應該要就是要負起這個責任\n\n25\n00:08:53,433 --> 00:09:22,180\n是的那兩點回報第一點就是在剛剛提到制裁保護這一塊比如說一些氣上盒子有帶涉及侵權部分氣上盒子的涉及器材部分我們會持續把關也叫業者來申請認證的時候你要切決你不會提供這種侵害制裁保護相關的一些問題那如果盒子上市之後我們會去抽驗他的涉及器材性能那如果不過的話就把廢增廢增他就不能賣了那這一塊因為涉及到跨部位水瓶的跟\n\n26\n00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:43,352\n經濟部製裁局等等機關的合作我們都有持續在跟製裁局在合作來處理好那最後再請教一下主委就是說之前我們公布的這個網際網路失聽服務管理法目前就是停滯沒有在動那之後會不會再繼續收集各方的意見來修正之後再提出\n\n27\n00:09:44,980 --> 00:09:59,376\n確實我們是有持續在內部有持續在更新也有做一些社會調查持續在更新觀察國際的趨勢來做一些處理那未來委員會組成或相關的我們還是會繼續來往前對外來徵詢意見來處理是好謝謝主委謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2985\t6747\t謝謝主席請主席邀請陳主委陳主委謝謝主委早安我們看到就是隨著網際網路的一個蓬勃發展那也跟著這個民眾的一個收視的一個習慣的一個改變所以我們看到有關這個有線電視的訂閱戶數可以說是明顯的下降這是一個很明顯的一個趨勢\n32177\t48994\t如果從這個訂戶數來看最近十年的高峰應該是在2017年還有523萬戶那直到2023年就只剩下了452萬戶就消失了71萬戶所以目前有限電視家庭的普及率已經不到五成了\n49674\t64152\t那这针对这样子的一个收视习惯的一个改变有关这个传统的这个传播产业的这样子的一个面临的一个困境我不晓得说我们NCC的态度如何\n64913\t81783\t是要積極的想辦法來協助還是說就消極的讓這個業者呢自生自滅是的各位報告我們NC態度是積極協助業者轉型那從這個102年開始以來我們協助他數位化因為\n83584\t98830\t收視的這一塊是下滑是全球的趨勢但是現在全球包括美國的兩大業者不管是CAMCAT還是CABLE ONE他們其實跟國內做法一樣都是說有些電視收訊\n100310\t116891\t加上寬頻上網要結合在一起甚至於有些是結合手機都可以看有線電視這一塊其實國內的步調其實一致的所以我們大概有四個步驟大概在我們報告有提到第一個我們是妥善利用有線基金來補助業者來鋪設4K計算盒\n118152\t143992\t然後之前過去十年大概也是有限基金讓他們做有限電視數位化這已經幾乎已經完成全部64家SO都已經完成數位化那第二個是利用有限基金來做一些在地的連結增加用戶的黏著度包括提供社區智慧型運用社區關懷等等那也製作一些地方的一些節目\n144833\t167165\t第三個其實也是最後一個大概就是說鼓勵業者跟OTTV來合作那其實目前SO特別是MSO大概都有跟這個既有的國內國外或者那些OTTV的一些平台來合作那本身的話其實他們這個效果也很好可以綁住用戶那我們相信這個搜訊的趨勢雖然是下滑\n167805\t196765\t但是應該會有一個底在那邊那未來其實過去大家開玩笑說以前是買有線電視送寬頻那現在很多的情況是轉向是逆轉有些是買寬頻送有線電視它費用其實總結來看就是寬頻是未來趨勢那他們必須要轉型那國外像我剛剛講美國的情況也是這麼做那我們也鼓勵業者朝向這方面來做\n197757\t211556\t是 因為剛剛主委有提到說這個是世界各國同樣的一個情勢面對的一個狀況所以我們也看到就是說即使世界各國也都是積極的在因應希望協助他們國內的業者因應這個網路時代對\n213498\t231933\t傳統的這個通訊傳播市場帶來的一個衝擊所以我們也看到了日本他有提出了這個中長期的一個計畫那韓國也是透過法規的檢討讓這個就是制度能夠更加的一個靈活然後因應這個科技的日新月異那我們也知道就是說這個網際網路對廣電媒體的影響也不是\n235055\t253708\t突然發生的那也是持續性的一個問題所以我們也希望就是說我們NCC在面對這樣子的一個時代的潮流我們應該就是要有更積極的一個態度那我們也看到就是說剛剛主委有提到這個有限基金的補助是指廣電基金嗎還是\n254774\t280228\t就是有限基金有限電視它的營收的百分之一是要納入基金這個是純粹是有限電視的有限電視的基金這個真的就是一個很現實的問題而且是互為因果的問題因為訂閱戶數的一個減少所以這個營收也減少了所以也相連帶的影響了我們廣電基金的收入的來源 對不對\n281329\t305058\t因為我們看到有線電視的營收它從2014年的298億元直到2023年就只剩227億元那10年間減少了這個幅度達24%那我們知道就是廣電基金的收入來源依照有線電視廣播法的第45條第一項的規定就是系統經營者每年就是提撥當年營業額的1%給\n307859\t318564\t這個基金那我們依照這樣子的一個減少的一個幅度目前我們看起來我們的基金近三年來我們從這個111年我們的基金收入還有3億820萬8千元那在112年就只有2億9651億5千元到去年113年就剩下2億8439萬4千元所以這個基金的收入的一個\n335371\t364630\t减少也是一个非常现实的一个状况那在这样子一个收入减少的状况下我们还要有能力有那个充裕的那个裁员去辅导这个业者吗就是三亿掉到两亿九两亿八对你要怎样去维持这个收入稳定或者是有应该没有其他的管道吧增加这个收入就是纯粹数学问题要么百分之一变百分之高一点但是这不太可能的\n364910\t391144\t另外就是用戶數要維持住都是我剛剛跟委員報告要讓郵電用戶的黏著度來提升我們就有請業者來做一些跨域的合作都剛剛講了跟社區或跟地方政府做一些智慧型的一些應用還有包括跟OTD的合作很多是買有線電視他會送你OTD的一些視訊服那這一塊其實就保住了用戶的流失\n392245\t408281\t是 就是其實你說跟OTT的合作那我們OTT的這個領域也是有面臨很多的問題因為在 我記得是在兩年前我們有公布這個網際網路視聽服務管理法的草案\n409302\t427988\t是在2020年的時候我們有公佈也有辦這個公聽會可是目前這個草案就已經就是都沒有進度跟我們報告文說的對我們OTTV法第一版是109年第二版是111年那是跟業者持續來溝通\n428368\t450966\t那11年之後12年13年那後來因為委員會沒辦法組成那涉及到法案的部分那必須要有委員會組成才能夠來做後續的一些預告或是甚至於是報給行政院等等那另外一個問題其實在第二版的111年的OTTV法裡頭跟外界溝通的結果其實業者\n451767\t474165\t相對是比較沒有共識的這一塊我們也會持續觀察國際的一些怎麼做法其實國際上目前幾乎是沒有一個國家針對OTD來定專法但是他們要嘛就是併在既有的廣電法或者併到什麼類似的電信的領域的一些作用法去處理這個也在我們的一些參考的範圍內我們未來也會持續來檢討\n476505\t500440\t是因為OTT這個領域就是事實上如果說沒有這個非法侵權的問題的話就這個部分對我們整個國內的影視產業來說這個是有很高的一個產值可是我們現在面臨的一個很大的問題就是境外盜版影音網站或者是就是這個盜版的影音APP上架的這個部分的問題所以也對我們\n502481\t524480\t整個國內OTT產業造成很大衝擊當然也連帶的對於我們有關這個有線電視業者的經營也是有很大連帶的影響所以我們知道OTT的崛起是網路時代沒有辦法忽視的一個發展然後也不可逆的一個發展所以如何讓這個OTT的一個發展的環境能夠更符合我們台灣\n525241\t532415\t的法令跟符合我們台灣影視產業的發展我想這個NCC也應該要就是要負起這個責任\n533433\t562180\t是的那兩點回報第一點就是在剛剛提到制裁保護這一塊比如說一些氣上盒子有帶涉及侵權部分氣上盒子的涉及器材部分我們會持續把關也叫業者來申請認證的時候你要切決你不會提供這種侵害制裁保護相關的一些問題那如果盒子上市之後我們會去抽驗他的涉及器材性能那如果不過的話就把廢增 廢增他就不能賣了那這一塊因為涉及到跨部位水瓶的跟\n562960\t583352\t經濟部製裁局等等機關的合作我們都有持續在跟製裁局在合作來處理好那最後再請教一下主委就是說之前我們公布的這個網際網路失聽服務管理法目前就是停滯沒有在動那之後會不會再繼續收集各方的意見來修正之後再提出\n584980\t599376\t確實我們是有持續在內部有持續在更新也有做一些社會調查持續在更新觀察國際的趨勢來做一些處理那未來委員會組成或相關的我們還是會繼續來往前對外來徵詢意見來處理是 好 謝謝主委謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席請主席邀請陳主委陳主委謝謝主委早安我們看到就是隨著網際網路的一個蓬勃發展那也跟著這個民眾的一個收視的一個習慣的一個改變所以我們看到有關這個有線電視的訂閱戶數可以說是明顯的下降這是一個很明顯的一個趨勢\n如果從這個訂戶數來看最近十年的高峰應該是在2017年還有523萬戶那直到2023年就只剩下了452萬戶就消失了71萬戶所以目前有限電視家庭的普及率已經不到五成了\n那这针对这样子的一个收视习惯的一个改变有关这个传统的这个传播产业的这样子的一个面临的一个困境我不晓得说我们NCC的态度如何\n是要積極的想辦法來協助還是說就消極的讓這個業者呢自生自滅是的各位報告我們NC態度是積極協助業者轉型那從這個102年開始以來我們協助他數位化因為\n收視的這一塊是下滑是全球的趨勢但是現在全球包括美國的兩大業者不管是CAMCAT還是CABLE ONE他們其實跟國內做法一樣都是說有些電視收訊\n加上寬頻上網要結合在一起甚至於有些是結合手機都可以看有線電視這一塊其實國內的步調其實一致的所以我們大概有四個步驟大概在我們報告有提到第一個我們是妥善利用有線基金來補助業者來鋪設4K計算盒\n然後之前過去十年大概也是有限基金讓他們做有限電視數位化這已經幾乎已經完成全部64家SO都已經完成數位化那第二個是利用有限基金來做一些在地的連結增加用戶的黏著度包括提供社區智慧型運用社區關懷等等那也製作一些地方的一些節目\n第三個其實也是最後一個大概就是說鼓勵業者跟OTTV來合作那其實目前SO特別是MSO大概都有跟這個既有的國內國外或者那些OTTV的一些平台來合作那本身的話其實他們這個效果也很好可以綁住用戶那我們相信這個搜訊的趨勢雖然是下滑\n但是應該會有一個底在那邊那未來其實過去大家開玩笑說以前是買有線電視送寬頻那現在很多的情況是轉向是逆轉有些是買寬頻送有線電視它費用其實總結來看就是寬頻是未來趨勢那他們必須要轉型那國外像我剛剛講美國的情況也是這麼做那我們也鼓勵業者朝向這方面來做\n是 因為剛剛主委有提到說這個是世界各國同樣的一個情勢面對的一個狀況所以我們也看到就是說即使世界各國也都是積極的在因應希望協助他們國內的業者因應這個網路時代對\n傳統的這個通訊傳播市場帶來的一個衝擊所以我們也看到了日本他有提出了這個中長期的一個計畫那韓國也是透過法規的檢討讓這個就是制度能夠更加的一個靈活然後因應這個科技的日新月異那我們也知道就是說這個網際網路對廣電媒體的影響也不是\n突然發生的那也是持續性的一個問題所以我們也希望就是說我們NCC在面對這樣子的一個時代的潮流我們應該就是要有更積極的一個態度那我們也看到就是說剛剛主委有提到這個有限基金的補助是指廣電基金嗎還是\n就是有限基金有限電視它的營收的百分之一是要納入基金這個是純粹是有限電視的有限電視的基金這個真的就是一個很現實的問題而且是互為因果的問題因為訂閱戶數的一個減少所以這個營收也減少了所以也相連帶的影響了我們廣電基金的收入的來源 對不對\n因為我們看到有線電視的營收它從2014年的298億元直到2023年就只剩227億元那10年間減少了這個幅度達24%那我們知道就是廣電基金的收入來源依照有線電視廣播法的第45條第一項的規定就是系統經營者每年就是提撥當年營業額的1%給\n這個基金那我們依照這樣子的一個減少的一個幅度目前我們看起來我們的基金近三年來我們從這個111年我們的基金收入還有3億820萬8千元那在112年就只有2億9651億5千元到去年113年就剩下2億8439萬4千元所以這個基金的收入的一個\n减少也是一个非常现实的一个状况那在这样子一个收入减少的状况下我们还要有能力有那个充裕的那个裁员去辅导这个业者吗就是三亿掉到两亿九两亿八对你要怎样去维持这个收入稳定或者是有应该没有其他的管道吧增加这个收入就是纯粹数学问题要么百分之一变百分之高一点但是这不太可能的\n另外就是用戶數要維持住都是我剛剛跟委員報告要讓郵電用戶的黏著度來提升我們就有請業者來做一些跨域的合作都剛剛講了跟社區或跟地方政府做一些智慧型的一些應用還有包括跟OTD的合作很多是買有線電視他會送你OTD的一些視訊服那這一塊其實就保住了用戶的流失\n是 就是其實你說跟OTT的合作那我們OTT的這個領域也是有面臨很多的問題因為在 我記得是在兩年前我們有公布這個網際網路視聽服務管理法的草案\n是在2020年的時候我們有公佈也有辦這個公聽會可是目前這個草案就已經就是都沒有進度跟我們報告文說的對我們OTTV法第一版是109年第二版是111年那是跟業者持續來溝通\n那11年之後12年13年那後來因為委員會沒辦法組成那涉及到法案的部分那必須要有委員會組成才能夠來做後續的一些預告或是甚至於是報給行政院等等那另外一個問題其實在第二版的111年的OTTV法裡頭跟外界溝通的結果其實業者\n相對是比較沒有共識的這一塊我們也會持續觀察國際的一些怎麼做法其實國際上目前幾乎是沒有一個國家針對OTD來定專法但是他們要嘛就是併在既有的廣電法或者併到什麼類似的電信的領域的一些作用法去處理這個也在我們的一些參考的範圍內我們未來也會持續來檢討\n是因為OTT這個領域就是事實上如果說沒有這個非法侵權的問題的話就這個部分對我們整個國內的影視產業來說這個是有很高的一個產值可是我們現在面臨的一個很大的問題就是境外盜版影音網站或者是就是這個盜版的影音APP上架的這個部分的問題所以也對我們\n整個國內OTT產業造成很大衝擊當然也連帶的對於我們有關這個有線電視業者的經營也是有很大連帶的影響所以我們知道OTT的崛起是網路時代沒有辦法忽視的一個發展然後也不可逆的一個發展所以如何讓這個OTT的一個發展的環境能夠更符合我們台灣\n的法令跟符合我們台灣影視產業的發展我想這個NCC也應該要就是要負起這個責任\n是的那兩點回報第一點就是在剛剛提到制裁保護這一塊比如說一些氣上盒子有帶涉及侵權部分氣上盒子的涉及器材部分我們會持續把關也叫業者來申請認證的時候你要切決你不會提供這種侵害制裁保護相關的一些問題那如果盒子上市之後我們會去抽驗他的涉及器材性能那如果不過的話就把廢增 廢增他就不能賣了那這一塊因為涉及到跨部位水瓶的跟\n經濟部製裁局等等機關的合作我們都有持續在跟製裁局在合作來處理好那最後再請教一下主委就是說之前我們公布的這個網際網路失聽服務管理法目前就是停滯沒有在動那之後會不會再繼續收集各方的意見來修正之後再提出\n確實我們是有持續在內部有持續在更新也有做一些社會調查持續在更新觀察國際的趨勢來做一些處理那未來委員會組成或相關的我們還是會繼續來往前對外來徵詢意見來處理是 好 謝謝主委謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.985 --> 00:06.747\n謝謝主席請主席邀請陳主委陳主委謝謝主委早安我們看到就是隨著網際網路的一個蓬勃發展那也跟著這個民眾的一個收視的一個習慣的一個改變所以我們看到有關這個有線電視的訂閱戶數可以說是明顯的下降這是一個很明顯的一個趨勢\n\n00:32.177 --> 00:48.994\n如果從這個訂戶數來看最近十年的高峰應該是在2017年還有523萬戶那直到2023年就只剩下了452萬戶就消失了71萬戶所以目前有限電視家庭的普及率已經不到五成了\n\n00:49.674 --> 01:04.152\n那这针对这样子的一个收视习惯的一个改变有关这个传统的这个传播产业的这样子的一个面临的一个困境我不晓得说我们NCC的态度如何\n\n01:04.913 --> 01:21.783\n是要積極的想辦法來協助還是說就消極的讓這個業者呢自生自滅是的各位報告我們NC態度是積極協助業者轉型那從這個102年開始以來我們協助他數位化因為\n\n01:23.584 --> 01:38.830\n收視的這一塊是下滑是全球的趨勢但是現在全球包括美國的兩大業者不管是CAMCAT還是CABLEONE他們其實跟國內做法一樣都是說有些電視收訊\n\n01:40.310 --> 01:56.891\n加上寬頻上網要結合在一起甚至於有些是結合手機都可以看有線電視這一塊其實國內的步調其實一致的所以我們大概有四個步驟大概在我們報告有提到第一個我們是妥善利用有線基金來補助業者來鋪設4K計算盒\n\n01:58.152 --> 02:23.992\n然後之前過去十年大概也是有限基金讓他們做有限電視數位化這已經幾乎已經完成全部64家SO都已經完成數位化那第二個是利用有限基金來做一些在地的連結增加用戶的黏著度包括提供社區智慧型運用社區關懷等等那也製作一些地方的一些節目\n\n02:24.833 --> 02:47.165\n第三個其實也是最後一個大概就是說鼓勵業者跟OTTV來合作那其實目前SO特別是MSO大概都有跟這個既有的國內國外或者那些OTTV的一些平台來合作那本身的話其實他們這個效果也很好可以綁住用戶那我們相信這個搜訊的趨勢雖然是下滑\n\n02:47.805 --> 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