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00:00:54,744\n詐騙封鎖的速度跟效率有所提升但是就整體來看這個上有政策下有對策詐騙的手法不斷的演化從電話簡訊社群廣告到現在的最流行的AI詐騙這個還用一些名人詐騙的方式這個民眾這個看得肥傻傻的不知道到底對誰是真的對誰是假的\n\n4\n00:00:59,887 --> 00:01:22,886\n那在我們這個新世代打詐行動綱領之下當然我們今年1月到8月總共攔阻了高達269萬通的境外來電但是這個我剛講的上有政策下有對策現在詐騙的集團也從這個境外有時候慢慢轉到我們這個國內來針對這樣一個狀況諸位有什麼看法怎麼樣去做進一步的一個防堵\n\n5\n00:01:23,442 --> 00:01:40,861\n好謝謝委員在我們既有的措施藍組國外來電國外來電做語音警示還有商業簡訊做關鍵字的藍組然後有網子連結都殺掉都block掉個人簡訊超過50則以上要回來做KYC\n\n6\n00:01:41,822 --> 00:02:05,144\n這個措施會持續進行那我們針對最近最新透過打造指揮中心獲得檢證署相關的資訊的一些回饋我們目前最新版9月16日重新下達的那個KYC指引有要求這個電信業者這個門號的總量有做一定的程度的管制那本國人是兩門為原則非本國籍是一門為原則那另外門號的\n\n7\n00:02:07,146 --> 00:02:34,045\n換號的週期大概六個月只能換兩次我們是把這個新的措施加進去希望能夠遏止這個人頭門號的一些情況我知道你們在這個處理上面當然有跨部會的一個整合的一個平臺但是我們在鄉下還是有很多鄉親在反映說他們也有透過這個回報系統去反映那甚至就是這個也接到我們相關的一些詢問但是詐騙電話還是層出不窮\n\n8\n00:02:36,347 --> 00:03:01,150\n這部分要如何做到所謂的一個即時高效透明的完成封鎖所以我想這個應該是責無旁貸那麼未來怎麼樣強化你們跟電信業者還有其他部會一個資訊處理的一個明確的時程我們怎麼去掌握到底有沒有被這些有問題的這些警示的部分有沒有明確的一個封鎖有沒有達到一個這樣的一個我們一個檢查的一個機制有沒有做到這樣\n\n9\n00:03:01,910 --> 00:03:22,815\n這個部分謝謝委員大概兩點第一點這個國際來化部分大概因為有語音警示所以鄉下民眾或者老人長輩大概都比較有警覺性這塊沒有問題那另外一個是衛顯來化的這一部分我們也透過宣導也叫業者來協力在業者的系統端那邊其實他們要推出這個APP\n\n10\n00:03:23,415 --> 00:03:49,810\n不用錢的如果有下載的話那未選好的就不用接了那另外這個我們也宣導民眾如果未選好的部分我們其實是可以在手機端可以設定不管是Android手機還是iOSApple的手機都可以設定不要接那這一塊能夠進一步讓這個房貸意識稍微沒有那麼堅定堅強的一些長者能夠做一些防禦的一些功用\n\n11\n00:03:50,717 --> 00:04:08,956\n主委我想這個電信業者當然他們要以盈利為目的但是不能不兼顧我們的社會責任所以我想這個這也是我第二個要請教這個主委的問題我從去年上任之後屏東因為過去我們是這個颱風也好地震也好我們是一個複合型的一個災害的高風險區\n\n12\n00:04:10,117 --> 00:04:37,976\n所以當時我一直提所謂的一個高抗災基地台的一個概念那尤其我們在虹泰期間這個連我們的鄉鎮公所指揮中心都斷電都沒辦法通訊怎麼樣去救災我一直強調這個部分的建置那當然主委之前有提到我們會結合這個台電在一些台電變電所這些關鍵基礎設施上面能夠建置這樣的一個高抗災基地台那不曉得目前我們真的這樣的一個進度做到哪裡\n\n13\n00:04:38,666 --> 00:05:05,826\n好那跟委員報告高康單一機台也不一定是要找這個試電台電它的電源永遠不斷的或說它有自備發電機的那一部分那空電型電信業者過往的一些電力的部分其實是要求72小時72小時它旁邊是有發電機是有柴油的如果72小時快到了那道路是有通的其實電信業者可以把柴油載電去補充它電力部分是沒問題的\n\n14\n00:05:06,747 --> 00:05:34,292\n那另外一個高抗災另外一個韌性是傳輸後端傳輸這一塊的韌性那我一般是比較好的是有微波有衛星那但是經過丹納斯風災之後那衛星這一塊的重要性是日益凸顯所以這個數位部他也有一些輔助在這衛星的傳輸這一塊來處理那委員所在的屏東地區大概目前為止有30個高抗災記憶臺那在委員的指示督導之下今年已經有4個\n\n15\n00:05:36,252 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00:08:02,906\n那因為這樣子會造成有限電視的一個裁員的一個銳減那甚至這個造成這個一個收視公平跟技術中立的一些相關的一些問題出現那我這邊要特別幫我們一些弱勢的族群提到因為我們這樣子一個有限電視的裁員銳減造成一個偏鄉的普及服務跟弱勢族群的收視的費用補助是不是會因為這樣的情形受到影響主委能不能答覆一下\n\n22\n00:08:03,326 --> 00:08:27,924\n是的應該會有一部分的影響因為有限基金的有4%是撥付給地方政府地方政府這一塊相對的可能在涉及到民眾那邊會有點影響那我們再請業者其實64家有限電視系統業者他本身提供的對一些比較弱勢族群的一些優惠其實我們都在把關之下他們是都不會縮水的都會持續來提供\n\n23\n00:08:28,544 --> 00:08:56,851\n那要因應這塊全球性的剪線槽那其實我們在106年開始要求有線電視數位化其實就已經在做準備了因為未來的有線電視這個視訊必須是跟寬頻綁在一起來處理的那國際上包括美國的這個手機一直的CAMCAS等等他們大概目前的最新的營業BGN的model大概就是說收視跟寬頻上網\n\n24\n00:08:57,771 --> 00:09:18,262\n甚至於加上手機一起來處理他們手機是可以看有線電視的不是只是純粹看那看OTTV那國內部分我們也要鼓勵業者跟OTTV來合作那既然轉向轉向streaming串流視訊是一個國際上的趨勢那電信業者就\n\n25\n00:09:20,724 --> 00:09:38,638\n有些电视业者我们就鼓励他们去跟潮流来结合所以目前几乎每一家特别是大型的MSO都有跟OTTV的相关的一些合作方案那也确保他们的用户的黏着度一定的黏着度让客户的衰减度能够遏止\n\n26\n00:09:41,331 --> 00:10:06,166\n主委我想您擔任主委期間我們還是期待你們要去確保一個公益性的服務不會被犧牲那尤其在這個40%的一個資金這個可能會受到銳減的情形之下這主委你們有責任要去協調這個事情我們不希望這個偏鄉的普及服務跟所謂一個弱勢族群一個收視補助受到影響這樣子會讓他們這樣受到更大的衝擊面我想這部分主委能不能當場承諾\n\n27\n00:10:07,807 --> 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謝謝委員在我們既有的措施藍組國外來電國外來電做語音警示還有商業簡訊做關鍵字的藍組然後有網子連結都殺掉都block掉個人簡訊超過50則以上要回來做KYC\n101822\t125144\t這個措施會持續進行那我們針對最近最新透過打造指揮中心獲得檢證署相關的資訊的一些回饋我們目前最新版9月16日重新下達的那個KYC指引有要求這個電信業者這個門號的總量有做一定的程度的管制那本國人是兩門為原則非本國籍是一門為原則那另外門號的\n127146\t154045\t換號的週期大概六個月只能換兩次我們是把這個新的措施加進去希望能夠遏止這個人頭門號的一些情況我知道你們在這個處理上面當然有跨部會的一個整合的一個平臺但是我們在鄉下還是有很多鄉親在反映說他們也有透過這個回報系統去反映那甚至就是這個也接到我們相關的一些詢問但是詐騙電話還是層出不窮\n156347\t181150\t這部分要如何做到所謂的一個即時高效透明的完成封鎖所以我想這個應該是責無旁貸那麼未來怎麼樣強化你們跟電信業者還有其他部會一個資訊處理的一個明確的時程我們怎麼去掌握到底有沒有被這些有問題的這些警示的部分有沒有明確的一個封鎖有沒有達到一個這樣的一個我們一個檢查的一個機制有沒有做到這樣\n181910\t202815\t這個部分謝謝委員大概兩點第一點這個國際來化部分大概因為有語音警示所以鄉下民眾或者老人長輩大概都比較有警覺性這塊沒有問題那另外一個是衛顯來化的這一部分我們也透過宣導也叫業者來協力在業者的系統端那邊其實他們要推出這個APP\n203415\t229810\t不用錢的如果有下載的話那未選好的就不用接了那另外這個我們也宣導民眾如果未選好的部分我們其實是可以在手機端可以設定不管是Android手機還是iOS Apple的手機都可以設定不要接那這一塊能夠進一步讓這個房貸意識稍微沒有那麼堅定堅強的一些長者能夠做一些防禦的一些功用\n230717\t248956\t主委我想這個電信業者當然他們要以盈利為目的但是不能不兼顧我們的社會責任所以我想這個這也是我第二個要請教這個主委的問題我從去年上任之後屏東因為過去我們是這個颱風也好地震也好我們是一個複合型的一個災害的高風險區\n250117\t277976\t所以當時我一直提所謂的一個高抗災基地台的一個概念那尤其我們在虹泰期間這個連我們的鄉鎮公所指揮中心都斷電都沒辦法通訊怎麼樣去救災我一直強調這個部分的建置那當然主委之前有提到我們會結合這個台電在一些台電變電所這些關鍵基礎設施上面能夠建置這樣的一個高抗災基地台那不曉得目前我們真的這樣的一個進度做到哪裡\n278666\t305826\t好 那跟委員報告高康單一機台也不一定是要找這個試電台電它的電源永遠不斷的或說它有自備發電機的那一部分那空電型電信業者過往的一些電力的部分其實是要求72小時72小時它旁邊是有發電機是有柴油的如果72小時快到了那道路是有通的其實電信業者可以把柴油載電去補充它電力部分是沒問題的\n306747\t334292\t那另外一個高抗災另外一個韌性是傳輸後端傳輸這一塊的韌性那我一般是比較好的是有微波有衛星那但是經過丹納斯風災之後那衛星這一塊的重要性是日益凸顯所以這個數位部他也有一些輔助在這衛星的傳輸這一塊來處理那委員所在的屏東地區大概目前為止有30個高抗災記憶臺那在委員的指示督導之下今年已經有4個\n336252\t360630\t高空災基帶已經建立那下半年我們也在規劃四個就是林邊兩個牡丹也有兩個對主委我想這個是一個很重要的一個議課題尤其是針對這個遇到這個災害發生的時候我想我們能夠怎麼樣快速的把裡面的資訊傳遞出來讓我們這個外援的這個救援部隊能夠趕快去到定點去做處理你沒有把這個部分建置起來我想這個大家都拚不爛也沒有一些訊息\n362952\t379577\t那另外我想我們之前也提到一個所謂的一個災害漫遊的一個機制 這是一個很正確的一個方向 但是因為目前我們基地台的設置的進度跟覆蓋的範圍 我想這個我們還是目前地方還是不清楚 那未來這部分 主委 我們的目前的進度掌握到哪裡\n380840\t394451\t我們這個災害漫遊在當下是風災之後8月7號有做這個這個先導性的漫遊但9月下旬有在台東海端也有第二次的漫遊那這段期間我們持續跟相關部外也跟電視業者來\n396172\t414935\t來討論那目前我們這個災害漫遊的作業要點已經在上禮拜四放假前已經下達了那未來他其實裡頭有規範這個範圍跟提供提供災害漫遊品質的一些相關規範也有規範業者這個相關這個帳戶的一些拆分還有他範圍其實主要還是根據這個當個案上這個風災或天然災害的一些範圍來處理\n424693\t439084\t我想這個我們現在都是面對極端氣候的挑戰我想每一個環節我們都要去重視我們不要不想等到災害發生之後我們這個中央單位或是地方單位束手無策不曉得怎麼處理 所以你們扮演很重要的一個角色\n439924\t456861\t那另外我想我還最後一個議題就是要談到所謂一個有線電視產業一個轉型的壓力那從目前我們接到一個訊息我們有線電視訂戶從106年的524萬戶降到目前已經跌破了450萬戶普及率已經跌破五成\n457441\t482906\t那因為這樣子會造成有限電視的一個裁員的一個銳減那甚至這個造成這個一個收視公平跟技術中立的一些相關的一些問題出現那我這邊要特別幫我們一些弱勢的族群提到因為我們這樣子一個有限電視的裁員銳減造成一個偏鄉的普及服務跟弱勢族群的收視的費用補助 是不是會因為這樣的情形受到影響 主委能不能答覆一下\n483326\t507924\t是的應該會有一部分的影響因為有限基金的有4%是撥付給地方政府地方政府這一塊相對的可能在涉及到民眾那邊會有點影響那我們再請業者其實64家有限電視系統業者他本身提供的對一些比較弱勢族群的一些優惠其實我們都在把關之下他們是都不會縮水的都會持續來提供\n508544\t536851\t那要因應這塊全球性的剪線槽那其實我們在106年開始要求有線電視數位化其實就已經在做準備了因為未來的有線電視這個視訊必須是跟寬頻綁在一起來處理的那國際上包括美國的這個手機一直的CAMCAS等等他們大概目前的最新的營業BGN的model大概就是說收視跟寬頻上網\n537771\t558262\t甚至於加上手機一起來處理他們手機是可以看有線電視的不是只是純粹看那看OTTV那國內部分我們也要鼓勵業者跟OTTV來合作那既然轉向轉向streaming 串流視訊是一個國際上的趨勢那電信業者就\n560724\t578638\t有些电视业者我们就鼓励他们去跟潮流来结合所以目前几乎每一家特别是大型的MSO都有跟OTTV的相关的一些合作方案那也确保他们的用户的黏着度一定的黏着度让客户的衰减度能够遏止\n581331\t606166\t主委我想您擔任主委期間我們還是期待你們要去確保一個公益性的服務不會被犧牲那尤其在這個40%的一個資金這個可能會受到銳減的情形之下這主委你們有責任要去協調這個事情我們不希望這個偏鄉的普及服務跟所謂一個弱勢族群一個收視補助受到影響這樣子會讓他們這樣受到更大的衝擊面我想這部分主委能不能當場承諾\n607807\t621279\t我們已經在處理 我們的新的制度措施 41%給地方政府 其實會湊出4%來做全臺灣性的偏遠地區 去ETRA去加碼來處理 都這一塊給偏向那邊都有額外處理主委 針對這個議題我會持續的追蹤謝謝 謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席 有請我們陳代理主委\n主委長主委我想這個詐騙案件是我們許多國人的痛主委應該有感受啦是對那我知道當然這個防詐騙這個案這個事情不是只有NCC一個單位的事情那我們近年來我們也跟警政署也好書法部也好共同推動了多項一個防詐的一個措施那當然你們主導的這個電信端的一個\n詐騙封鎖的速度跟效率有所提升但是就整體來看這個上有政策下有對策詐騙的手法不斷的演化從電話簡訊社群廣告到現在的最流行的AI詐騙這個還用一些名人詐騙的方式這個民眾這個看得肥傻傻的不知道到底對誰是真的對誰是假的\n那在我們這個新世代打詐行動綱領之下當然我們今年1月到8月總共攔阻了高達269萬通的境外來電但是這個我剛講的上有政策下有對策現在詐騙的集團也從這個境外有時候慢慢轉到我們這個國內來針對這樣一個狀況 諸位有什麼看法 怎麼樣去做進一步的一個防堵\n好 謝謝委員在我們既有的措施藍組國外來電國外來電做語音警示還有商業簡訊做關鍵字的藍組然後有網子連結都殺掉都block掉個人簡訊超過50則以上要回來做KYC\n這個措施會持續進行那我們針對最近最新透過打造指揮中心獲得檢證署相關的資訊的一些回饋我們目前最新版9月16日重新下達的那個KYC指引有要求這個電信業者這個門號的總量有做一定的程度的管制那本國人是兩門為原則非本國籍是一門為原則那另外門號的\n換號的週期大概六個月只能換兩次我們是把這個新的措施加進去希望能夠遏止這個人頭門號的一些情況我知道你們在這個處理上面當然有跨部會的一個整合的一個平臺但是我們在鄉下還是有很多鄉親在反映說他們也有透過這個回報系統去反映那甚至就是這個也接到我們相關的一些詢問但是詐騙電話還是層出不窮\n這部分要如何做到所謂的一個即時高效透明的完成封鎖所以我想這個應該是責無旁貸那麼未來怎麼樣強化你們跟電信業者還有其他部會一個資訊處理的一個明確的時程我們怎麼去掌握到底有沒有被這些有問題的這些警示的部分有沒有明確的一個封鎖有沒有達到一個這樣的一個我們一個檢查的一個機制有沒有做到這樣\n這個部分謝謝委員大概兩點第一點這個國際來化部分大概因為有語音警示所以鄉下民眾或者老人長輩大概都比較有警覺性這塊沒有問題那另外一個是衛顯來化的這一部分我們也透過宣導也叫業者來協力在業者的系統端那邊其實他們要推出這個APP\n不用錢的如果有下載的話那未選好的就不用接了那另外這個我們也宣導民眾如果未選好的部分我們其實是可以在手機端可以設定不管是Android手機還是iOS Apple的手機都可以設定不要接那這一塊能夠進一步讓這個房貸意識稍微沒有那麼堅定堅強的一些長者能夠做一些防禦的一些功用\n主委我想這個電信業者當然他們要以盈利為目的但是不能不兼顧我們的社會責任所以我想這個這也是我第二個要請教這個主委的問題我從去年上任之後屏東因為過去我們是這個颱風也好地震也好我們是一個複合型的一個災害的高風險區\n所以當時我一直提所謂的一個高抗災基地台的一個概念那尤其我們在虹泰期間這個連我們的鄉鎮公所指揮中心都斷電都沒辦法通訊怎麼樣去救災我一直強調這個部分的建置那當然主委之前有提到我們會結合這個台電在一些台電變電所這些關鍵基礎設施上面能夠建置這樣的一個高抗災基地台那不曉得目前我們真的這樣的一個進度做到哪裡\n好 那跟委員報告高康單一機台也不一定是要找這個試電台電它的電源永遠不斷的或說它有自備發電機的那一部分那空電型電信業者過往的一些電力的部分其實是要求72小時72小時它旁邊是有發電機是有柴油的如果72小時快到了那道路是有通的其實電信業者可以把柴油載電去補充它電力部分是沒問題的\n那另外一個高抗災另外一個韌性是傳輸後端傳輸這一塊的韌性那我一般是比較好的是有微波有衛星那但是經過丹納斯風災之後那衛星這一塊的重要性是日益凸顯所以這個數位部他也有一些輔助在這衛星的傳輸這一塊來處理那委員所在的屏東地區大概目前為止有30個高抗災記憶臺那在委員的指示督導之下今年已經有4個\n高空災基帶已經建立那下半年我們也在規劃四個就是林邊兩個牡丹也有兩個對主委我想這個是一個很重要的一個議課題尤其是針對這個遇到這個災害發生的時候我想我們能夠怎麼樣快速的把裡面的資訊傳遞出來讓我們這個外援的這個救援部隊能夠趕快去到定點去做處理你沒有把這個部分建置起來我想這個大家都拚不爛也沒有一些訊息\n那另外我想我們之前也提到一個所謂的一個災害漫遊的一個機制 這是一個很正確的一個方向 但是因為目前我們基地台的設置的進度跟覆蓋的範圍 我想這個我們還是目前地方還是不清楚 那未來這部分 主委 我們的目前的進度掌握到哪裡\n我們這個災害漫遊在當下是風災之後8月7號有做這個這個先導性的漫遊但9月下旬有在台東海端也有第二次的漫遊那這段期間我們持續跟相關部外也跟電視業者來\n來討論那目前我們這個災害漫遊的作業要點已經在上禮拜四放假前已經下達了那未來他其實裡頭有規範這個範圍跟提供提供災害漫遊品質的一些相關規範也有規範業者這個相關這個帳戶的一些拆分還有他範圍其實主要還是根據這個當個案上這個風災或天然災害的一些範圍來處理\n我想這個我們現在都是面對極端氣候的挑戰我想每一個環節我們都要去重視我們不要不想等到災害發生之後我們這個中央單位或是地方單位束手無策不曉得怎麼處理 所以你們扮演很重要的一個角色\n那另外我想我還最後一個議題就是要談到所謂一個有線電視產業一個轉型的壓力那從目前我們接到一個訊息我們有線電視訂戶從106年的524萬戶降到目前已經跌破了450萬戶普及率已經跌破五成\n那因為這樣子會造成有限電視的一個裁員的一個銳減那甚至這個造成這個一個收視公平跟技術中立的一些相關的一些問題出現那我這邊要特別幫我們一些弱勢的族群提到因為我們這樣子一個有限電視的裁員銳減造成一個偏鄉的普及服務跟弱勢族群的收視的費用補助 是不是會因為這樣的情形受到影響 主委能不能答覆一下\n是的應該會有一部分的影響因為有限基金的有4%是撥付給地方政府地方政府這一塊相對的可能在涉及到民眾那邊會有點影響那我們再請業者其實64家有限電視系統業者他本身提供的對一些比較弱勢族群的一些優惠其實我們都在把關之下他們是都不會縮水的都會持續來提供\n那要因應這塊全球性的剪線槽那其實我們在106年開始要求有線電視數位化其實就已經在做準備了因為未來的有線電視這個視訊必須是跟寬頻綁在一起來處理的那國際上包括美國的這個手機一直的CAMCAS等等他們大概目前的最新的營業BGN的model大概就是說收視跟寬頻上網\n甚至於加上手機一起來處理他們手機是可以看有線電視的不是只是純粹看那看OTTV那國內部分我們也要鼓勵業者跟OTTV來合作那既然轉向轉向streaming 串流視訊是一個國際上的趨勢那電信業者就\n有些电视业者我们就鼓励他们去跟潮流来结合所以目前几乎每一家特别是大型的MSO都有跟OTTV的相关的一些合作方案那也确保他们的用户的黏着度一定的黏着度让客户的衰减度能够遏止\n主委我想您擔任主委期間我們還是期待你們要去確保一個公益性的服務不會被犧牲那尤其在這個40%的一個資金這個可能會受到銳減的情形之下這主委你們有責任要去協調這個事情我們不希望這個偏鄉的普及服務跟所謂一個弱勢族群一個收視補助受到影響這樣子會讓他們這樣受到更大的衝擊面我想這部分主委能不能當場承諾\n我們已經在處理 我們的新的制度措施 41%給地方政府 其實會湊出4%來做全臺灣性的偏遠地區 去ETRA去加碼來處理 都這一塊給偏向那邊都有額外處理主委 針對這個議題我會持續的追蹤謝謝 謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.823 --> 00:05.433\n謝謝主席有請我們陳代理主委\n\n00:13.286 --> 00:36.292\n主委長主委我想這個詐騙案件是我們許多國人的痛主委應該有感受啦是對那我知道當然這個防詐騙這個案這個事情不是只有NCC一個單位的事情那我們近年來我們也跟警政署也好書法部也好共同推動了多項一個防詐的一個措施那當然你們主導的這個電信端的一個\n\n00:37.492 --> 00:54.744\n詐騙封鎖的速度跟效率有所提升但是就整體來看這個上有政策下有對策詐騙的手法不斷的演化從電話簡訊社群廣告到現在的最流行的AI詐騙這個還用一些名人詐騙的方式這個民眾這個看得肥傻傻的不知道到底對誰是真的對誰是假的\n\n00:59.887 --> 01:22.886\n那在我們這個新世代打詐行動綱領之下當然我們今年1月到8月總共攔阻了高達269萬通的境外來電但是這個我剛講的上有政策下有對策現在詐騙的集團也從這個境外有時候慢慢轉到我們這個國內來針對這樣一個狀況諸位有什麼看法怎麼樣去做進一步的一個防堵\n\n01:23.442 --> 01:40.861\n好謝謝委員在我們既有的措施藍組國外來電國外來電做語音警示還有商業簡訊做關鍵字的藍組然後有網子連結都殺掉都block掉個人簡訊超過50則以上要回來做KYC\n\n01:41.822 --> 02:05.144\n這個措施會持續進行那我們針對最近最新透過打造指揮中心獲得檢證署相關的資訊的一些回饋我們目前最新版9月16日重新下達的那個KYC指引有要求這個電信業者這個門號的總量有做一定的程度的管制那本國人是兩門為原則非本國籍是一門為原則那另外門號的\n\n02:07.146 --> 02:34.045\n換號的週期大概六個月只能換兩次我們是把這個新的措施加進去希望能夠遏止這個人頭門號的一些情況我知道你們在這個處理上面當然有跨部會的一個整合的一個平臺但是我們在鄉下還是有很多鄉親在反映說他們也有透過這個回報系統去反映那甚至就是這個也接到我們相關的一些詢問但是詐騙電話還是層出不窮\n\n02:36.347 --> 03:01.150\n這部分要如何做到所謂的一個即時高效透明的完成封鎖所以我想這個應該是責無旁貸那麼未來怎麼樣強化你們跟電信業者還有其他部會一個資訊處理的一個明確的時程我們怎麼去掌握到底有沒有被這些有問題的這些警示的部分有沒有明確的一個封鎖有沒有達到一個這樣的一個我們一個檢查的一個機制有沒有做到這樣\n\n03:01.910 --> 03:22.815\n這個部分謝謝委員大概兩點第一點這個國際來化部分大概因為有語音警示所以鄉下民眾或者老人長輩大概都比較有警覺性這塊沒有問題那另外一個是衛顯來化的這一部分我們也透過宣導也叫業者來協力在業者的系統端那邊其實他們要推出這個APP\n\n03:23.415 --> 03:49.810\n不用錢的如果有下載的話那未選好的就不用接了那另外這個我們也宣導民眾如果未選好的部分我們其實是可以在手機端可以設定不管是Android手機還是iOSApple的手機都可以設定不要接那這一塊能夠進一步讓這個房貸意識稍微沒有那麼堅定堅強的一些長者能夠做一些防禦的一些功用\n\n03:50.717 --> 04:08.956\n主委我想這個電信業者當然他們要以盈利為目的但是不能不兼顧我們的社會責任所以我想這個這也是我第二個要請教這個主委的問題我從去年上任之後屏東因為過去我們是這個颱風也好地震也好我們是一個複合型的一個災害的高風險區\n\n04:10.117 --> 04:37.976\n所以當時我一直提所謂的一個高抗災基地台的一個概念那尤其我們在虹泰期間這個連我們的鄉鎮公所指揮中心都斷電都沒辦法通訊怎麼樣去救災我一直強調這個部分的建置那當然主委之前有提到我們會結合這個台電在一些台電變電所這些關鍵基礎設施上面能夠建置這樣的一個高抗災基地台那不曉得目前我們真的這樣的一個進度做到哪裡\n\n04:38.666 --> 05:05.826\n好那跟委員報告高康單一機台也不一定是要找這個試電台電它的電源永遠不斷的或說它有自備發電機的那一部分那空電型電信業者過往的一些電力的部分其實是要求72小時72小時它旁邊是有發電機是有柴油的如果72小時快到了那道路是有通的其實電信業者可以把柴油載電去補充它電力部分是沒問題的\n\n05:06.747 --> 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