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00:02:00,240\n報告委員這一年來我們去年就比照軍公教的這個調薪調三趴今年那另外針對春節疏運的這個獎金我們一天一千五百塊那四天就最高可以到六千那另外針對搶修的部分我們就是一律發給一千調整之後按照天數可以到達六千那另外危險加擠的部分我們有增加一千二到三千不等那另外\n\n6\n00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:30,203\n針對區域加擠也就是比較偏鄉例如說花東地區我們的區域加擠也有到630然後到3090塊不等所以其實我們各項都有盡量在努力逐步的來提升如果我們現在票價也調整然後相關的營運效率有出來的話也必須要讓員工來共享相關的這樣的一個成長的生活董事長在這個董事會議還有通過了更好的一些方案包含夜點費我是不是請董事長來董事長說明一下\n\n7\n00:02:32,605 --> 00:02:57,186\n在我們這個夜點費因為員工最考慮的那以前在8年前訂的大概是120那我們這一次在我們交通部的大力的支持下我們也跟工會這邊完成一個協議那就現在的這個案子已經通過了我們的這個董事會的審議所以120調到最高可以到400另外還有案子就是說我們的主管加急那主管加急的時候我們對於這個基層的\n\n8\n00:02:58,487 --> 00:03:18,318\n二三級站的這個站長的部分呢我們大概都加以上的我們加原來的這個百分之五十以上的職能加息那這兩個案子呢我們都現在都是已經送到在今天應該昨天送出去會到這個我們好交流謝謝部長跟董事長對於台鐵\n\n9\n00:03:19,638 --> 00:03:47,266\n勞工的相關的薪資權益津貼有具體的一個作為但是我剛才提到說勞基法他是保障勞工最低的一個條件而且是平衡勞僱關係也能夠促進公司的一個公平的運作我要提醒部長跟董事長勞動部有一個違反勞動法令的相關事業單位的一個查詢系統那\n\n10\n00:03:49,167 --> 00:04:09,032\n台鐵公司這兩年的成績實在是不好看那近兩年違反勞動基準法總共有五件那這兩年違反就業服務法中高齡者及高齡者就業促進法以及職安法總共有七件\n\n11\n00:04:10,031 --> 00:04:38,964\n那相關的類型不管是勞基法的工資給付與加班費這個有三件衛醫法給予勞工特休假一件職災補償一件那相關的違反職安法相關的法令不管是工作現場安全管理失當或者是承攬與分包管理疏失以及機械設備的防護不足那這些其實就\n\n12\n00:04:40,244 --> 00:05:00,602\n顯示出兩個問題我要提醒部長跟董事長第一個就是說台鐵公司的這個管理啊它管理制度老化當然它還是沿襲過去公務機關的這種慣性那也顯示新式的企業管理的思維啊並沒有導入這個台鐵公司的企業文化裡面\n\n13\n00:05:01,303 --> 00:05:19,534\n另外就是我們相關的監督跟集合不足我們這種即時能夠顯示違法行為公司沒有辦法即刻的查核沒有辦法即刻的發現這是一個問題來部長先請董事長說明一下\n\n14\n00:05:21,343 --> 00:05:49,175\n我想謝謝這個委員的這個指教確實這一兩年來我們在這一部分的做是非常的不到位那我們針對這個問題我們分成就是兩個部分我們按照這個勞基法的這個要求一定要確實做到我們在這兩年台鐵公司就五件了那這兩年高鐵公司沒有相關勞基法違法的案件那違反治安法相關的法令這兩年\n\n15\n00:05:51,236 --> 00:06:09,901\n台鐵公司有七件那高鐵公司也有三件但是相關的大家對於高鐵公司保障勞工基本權益的做法大家比較有信心台鐵這個部分必須要加強要做到零違法的這樣的一個目標高鐵有做到勞基法的部分\n\n16\n00:06:11,243 --> 00:06:23,909\n台鐵公司必須要加油董事長那你簡單說明一下我們會努力在執行方面在法令要求基層的主管要落實以外我們也要加強我們的集合制度\n\n17\n00:06:25,393 --> 00:06:51,243\n那相關的有關於月初台北火車站發生性侵的這樣的一個事件造成社會的嘩然跟憤怒這也顯示我們相關車站對於婦女以及弱勢族群的這個保護這個安全網是嚴重的有問題當然台鐵公司跟鐵警局也有提出事項的加強台北車站\n\n18\n00:06:52,711 --> 00:07:09,891\n安全防護的這些措施以及計畫那我要提醒部長跟董事長台北車站這個問題的核心並不是在於缺乏計畫而是缺乏執行力跟人力不足的問題那\n\n19\n00:07:12,557 --> 00:07:27,771\n我們台北車站必須要加強這一種場域安全的這種風險的盤點以及人力配置不足的問題必須去做檢討跟改進來董事長你們有什麼更具體的作為\n\n20\n00:07:28,171 --> 00:07:42,595\n是的我們這事情發生以後我們跟鐵井有這個聯訪的機制那我們做法就是把月台上的一些保全然後調到這個一樓這邊來每30分鐘的巡邏那這個部分是暫時的現在目前這只是暫時\n\n21\n00:07:47,856 --> 00:08:08,970\n董事長我剛才提醒過你補足人力是一個重要的議題還有相關的加強這種現場的防護網這也是重要的一個方向我們必須要知道台鐵公司在這兩方面有什麼更具體不是說什麼相關的措施或計畫更具體的執行力跟人力不足的問題你必須要面對\n\n22\n00:08:09,790 --> 00:08:24,911\n是的所以我們11月1號會把這個本來從那邊吊上來的這個我們就專責在月台上了那這樣的話就可以月台完全鎖住然後在這個大廳這邊的話我們也確實能夠做好這個訪問另外跟委員報告\n\n23\n00:08:25,652 --> 00:08:49,073\n就是我們也會跟內政部來溝通就鐵井的部分人力可不可以增加那另外因為台北車站是重要的國家的關鍵設施我們可以透過這個國土辦公室來做專案的申請警力的這個協助這個部分我們也會協助台鐵公司部這邊來協助台鐵公司除了相關鐵井的增加之外是否也要徵聘相關的保全人員\n\n24\n00:08:50,151 --> 00:09:17,608\n保全應該要增加保全應該要增加而且我們在跟鐵警局要協調協調設立相關的常駐的哨點常駐的哨點來確保相關高風險區域的一個基本的保障那像廁所大廳出入口等等那我們會做到24小時的這樣的一個巡守嗎來董事長說明一下24小時\n\n25\n00:09:19,761 --> 00:09:40,655\n我們現在是沒有到24小時吧確實在我們在這個大廳這邊是24小時輪班那就跟這個鐵井那這個11月1號以後這個保全就是專責了好相關的台北車站當然是有他的安全的一個破口\n\n26\n00:09:41,431 --> 00:10:07,038\n那就是說他鬆散不夠嚴謹的安全網是必須我們來做一個全盤的檢討那相關的也不只是台北火車站像桃園高雄台中等等這些重要的車站我們必須都通盤的來做安全網的一個檢討必須要讓旅客搭乘火車有一個安心的車站\n\n27\n00:10:08,298 --> 00:10:28,417\n這個是很重要的來最後讓董事長跟部長來做補充說明有關於剛才委員提的這個保全的部分的話我們確定已經在徹底的盤點那我們應該8月的時候已經開始最不足的地方我們趕快就來補充這個保全的人員\n\n28\n00:10:29,485 --> 00:10:41,742\n好謝謝董事長跟部長謝謝委員保障勞工的權益保障旅客的安全這都是台鐵的一個重要的責任跟工作我們會嚴加的督促好謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2863\t9856\t謝謝洪孟愷召委請一下陳士凱部長鄭光源董事長楊振軍局長部長董事長局長請嗯\n15322\t36811\t部長好 有關於台鐵公司的話他最重要的目標當然是要提升旅客的安全加強他相關的服務的效率讓台鐵能夠永續的經營當然員工的權益也必須獲得實質的保障跟提升\n38672\t65987\t我們看到勞基法當然它一個很重要的精神當然是保障勞工的一個最低的一個權益的保障而且是要平衡相關的勞僱關係來作為一個公司能夠公平的運作一個重要的基礎但是我們看到台鐵公司對於員工的照顧我認為是還是不足是\n66707\t90580\t那之前有跟部長提到過相關的公司化之後那員工的薪資或者是津貼或者是福利或是權益必須要有具體的政策來讓員工加強對公司化之後的信心那部長當時也有答應那我來請教一下我們相關的規劃是什麼\n92101\t120240\t報告委員這一年來我們去年就比照軍公教的這個調薪調三趴 今年那另外針對春節疏運的這個獎金我們一天一千五百塊那四天就最高可以到六千那另外針對搶修的部分我們就是一律發給一千 調整之後按照天數可以到達六千那另外危險加擠的部分我們有增加一千二到三千不等那另外\n121160\t150203\t針對區域加擠也就是比較偏鄉例如說花東地區我們的區域加擠也有到630然後到3090塊不等所以其實我們各項都有盡量在努力逐步的來提升如果我們現在票價也調整然後相關的營運效率有出來的話也必須要讓員工來共享相關的這樣的一個成長的生活 董事長在這個董事會議還有通過了更好的一些方案包含夜點費我是不是請董事長來 董事長說明一下\n152605\t177186\t在我們這個夜點費因為員工最考慮的那以前在8年前訂的大概是120那我們這一次在我們交通部的大力的支持下我們也跟工會這邊完成一個協議那就現在的這個案子已經通過了我們的這個董事會的審議所以120調到最高可以到400另外還有案子就是說我們的主管加急那主管加急的時候我們對於這個基層的\n178487\t198318\t二三級站的這個站長的部分呢我們大概都加以上的我們加原來的這個百分之五十以上的職能加息那這兩個案子呢我們都現在都是已經送到在今天應該昨天送出去會到這個我們好交流謝謝部長跟董事長對於台鐵\n199638\t227266\t勞工的相關的薪資權益津貼有具體的一個作為但是我剛才提到說勞基法他是保障勞工最低的一個條件而且是平衡勞僱關係也能夠促進公司的一個公平的運作我要提醒部長跟董事長勞動部有一個違反勞動法令的相關事業單位的一個查詢系統那\n229167\t249032\t台鐵公司這兩年的成績實在是不好看那近兩年違反勞動基準法總共有五件那這兩年違反就業服務法中高齡者及高齡者就業促進法以及職安法總共有七件\n250031\t278964\t那相關的類型不管是勞基法的工資給付與加班費這個有三件衛醫法給予勞工特休假一件職災補償一件那相關的違反職安法相關的法令不管是工作現場安全管理失當或者是承攬與分包管理疏失以及機械設備的防護不足那這些其實就\n280244\t300602\t顯示出兩個問題我要提醒部長跟董事長第一個就是說台鐵公司的這個管理啊它管理制度老化當然它還是沿襲過去公務機關的這種慣性那也顯示新式的企業管理的思維啊並沒有導入這個台鐵公司的企業文化裡面\n301303\t319534\t另外就是我們相關的監督跟集合不足我們這種即時能夠顯示違法行為公司沒有辦法即刻的查核沒有辦法即刻的發現這是一個問題來部長先請董事長說明一下\n321343\t349175\t我想謝謝這個委員的這個指教確實這一兩年來我們在這一部分的做是非常的不到位那我們針對這個問題我們分成就是兩個部分我們按照這個勞基法的這個要求一定要確實做到我們在這兩年台鐵公司就五件了那這兩年高鐵公司沒有相關勞基法違法的案件那違反治安法相關的法令這兩年\n351236\t369901\t台鐵公司有七件那高鐵公司也有三件但是相關的大家對於高鐵公司保障勞工基本權益的做法大家比較有信心台鐵這個部分必須要加強要做到零違法的這樣的一個目標高鐵有做到勞基法的部分\n371243\t383909\t台鐵公司必須要加油 董事長那你簡單說明一下我們會努力在執行方面在法令要求基層的主管要落實以外我們也要加強我們的集合制度\n385393\t411243\t那相關的有關於月初台北火車站發生性侵的這樣的一個事件造成社會的嘩然跟憤怒這也顯示我們相關車站對於婦女以及弱勢族群的這個保護這個安全網是嚴重的有問題當然台鐵公司跟鐵警局也有提出事項的加強台北車站\n412711\t429891\t安全防護的這些措施以及計畫那我要提醒部長跟董事長台北車站這個問題的核心並不是在於缺乏計畫而是缺乏執行力跟人力不足的問題那\n432557\t447771\t我們台北車站必須要加強這一種場域安全的這種風險的盤點以及人力配置不足的問題必須去做檢討跟改進來 董事長你們有什麼更具體的作為\n448171\t462595\t是的 我們這事情發生以後我們跟鐵井有這個聯訪的機制那我們做法就是把月台上的一些保全然後調到這個一樓這邊來每30分鐘的巡邏那這個部分是暫時的 現在目前這只是暫時\n467856\t488970\t董事長我剛才提醒過你補足人力是一個重要的議題還有相關的加強這種現場的防護網這也是重要的一個方向我們必須要知道台鐵公司在這兩方面有什麼更具體不是說什麼相關的措施或計畫更具體的執行力跟人力不足的問題你必須要面對\n489790\t504911\t是的 所以我們11月1號會把這個本來從那邊吊上來的這個我們就專責在月台上了那這樣的話就可以月台完全鎖住然後在這個大廳這邊的話我們也確實能夠做好這個訪問另外跟委員報告\n505652\t529073\t就是我們也會跟內政部來溝通就鐵井的部分人力可不可以增加那另外因為台北車站是重要的國家的關鍵設施我們可以透過這個國土辦公室來做專案的申請警力的這個協助這個部分我們也會協助台鐵公司部這邊來協助台鐵公司除了相關鐵井的增加之外是否也要徵聘相關的保全人員\n530151\t557608\t保全應該要增加保全應該要增加而且我們在跟鐵警局要協調協調設立相關的常駐的哨點常駐的哨點來確保相關高風險區域的一個基本的保障那像廁所大廳出入口等等那我們會做到24小時的這樣的一個巡守嗎來董事長說明一下24小時\n559761\t580655\t我們現在是沒有到24小時吧確實在我們在這個大廳這邊是24小時輪班那就跟這個鐵井那這個11月1號以後這個保全就是專責了好 相關的台北車站當然是有他的安全的一個破口\n581431\t607038\t那就是說他鬆散不夠嚴謹的安全網是必須我們來做一個全盤的檢討那相關的也不只是台北火車站像桃園高雄台中等等這些重要的車站我們必須都通盤的來做安全網的一個檢討必須要讓旅客搭乘火車有一個安心的車站\n608298\t628417\t這個是很重要的來最後讓董事長跟部長來做補充說明有關於剛才委員提的這個保全的部分的話我們確定已經在徹底的盤點那我們應該8月的時候已經開始最不足的地方我們趕快就來補充這個保全的人員\n629485\t641742\t好 謝謝董事長跟部長 謝謝委員保障勞工的權益 保障旅客的安全這都是台鐵的一個重要的責任跟工作我們會嚴加的督促好 謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝謝洪孟愷召委請一下陳士凱部長鄭光源董事長楊振軍局長部長董事長局長請嗯\n部長好 有關於台鐵公司的話他最重要的目標當然是要提升旅客的安全加強他相關的服務的效率讓台鐵能夠永續的經營當然員工的權益也必須獲得實質的保障跟提升\n我們看到勞基法當然它一個很重要的精神當然是保障勞工的一個最低的一個權益的保障而且是要平衡相關的勞僱關係來作為一個公司能夠公平的運作一個重要的基礎但是我們看到台鐵公司對於員工的照顧我認為是還是不足是\n那之前有跟部長提到過相關的公司化之後那員工的薪資或者是津貼或者是福利或是權益必須要有具體的政策來讓員工加強對公司化之後的信心那部長當時也有答應那我來請教一下我們相關的規劃是什麼\n報告委員這一年來我們去年就比照軍公教的這個調薪調三趴 今年那另外針對春節疏運的這個獎金我們一天一千五百塊那四天就最高可以到六千那另外針對搶修的部分我們就是一律發給一千 調整之後按照天數可以到達六千那另外危險加擠的部分我們有增加一千二到三千不等那另外\n針對區域加擠也就是比較偏鄉例如說花東地區我們的區域加擠也有到630然後到3090塊不等所以其實我們各項都有盡量在努力逐步的來提升如果我們現在票價也調整然後相關的營運效率有出來的話也必須要讓員工來共享相關的這樣的一個成長的生活 董事長在這個董事會議還有通過了更好的一些方案包含夜點費我是不是請董事長來 董事長說明一下\n在我們這個夜點費因為員工最考慮的那以前在8年前訂的大概是120那我們這一次在我們交通部的大力的支持下我們也跟工會這邊完成一個協議那就現在的這個案子已經通過了我們的這個董事會的審議所以120調到最高可以到400另外還有案子就是說我們的主管加急那主管加急的時候我們對於這個基層的\n二三級站的這個站長的部分呢我們大概都加以上的我們加原來的這個百分之五十以上的職能加息那這兩個案子呢我們都現在都是已經送到在今天應該昨天送出去會到這個我們好交流謝謝部長跟董事長對於台鐵\n勞工的相關的薪資權益津貼有具體的一個作為但是我剛才提到說勞基法他是保障勞工最低的一個條件而且是平衡勞僱關係也能夠促進公司的一個公平的運作我要提醒部長跟董事長勞動部有一個違反勞動法令的相關事業單位的一個查詢系統那\n台鐵公司這兩年的成績實在是不好看那近兩年違反勞動基準法總共有五件那這兩年違反就業服務法中高齡者及高齡者就業促進法以及職安法總共有七件\n那相關的類型不管是勞基法的工資給付與加班費這個有三件衛醫法給予勞工特休假一件職災補償一件那相關的違反職安法相關的法令不管是工作現場安全管理失當或者是承攬與分包管理疏失以及機械設備的防護不足那這些其實就\n顯示出兩個問題我要提醒部長跟董事長第一個就是說台鐵公司的這個管理啊它管理制度老化當然它還是沿襲過去公務機關的這種慣性那也顯示新式的企業管理的思維啊並沒有導入這個台鐵公司的企業文化裡面\n另外就是我們相關的監督跟集合不足我們這種即時能夠顯示違法行為公司沒有辦法即刻的查核沒有辦法即刻的發現這是一個問題來部長先請董事長說明一下\n我想謝謝這個委員的這個指教確實這一兩年來我們在這一部分的做是非常的不到位那我們針對這個問題我們分成就是兩個部分我們按照這個勞基法的這個要求一定要確實做到我們在這兩年台鐵公司就五件了那這兩年高鐵公司沒有相關勞基法違法的案件那違反治安法相關的法令這兩年\n台鐵公司有七件那高鐵公司也有三件但是相關的大家對於高鐵公司保障勞工基本權益的做法大家比較有信心台鐵這個部分必須要加強要做到零違法的這樣的一個目標高鐵有做到勞基法的部分\n台鐵公司必須要加油 董事長那你簡單說明一下我們會努力在執行方面在法令要求基層的主管要落實以外我們也要加強我們的集合制度\n那相關的有關於月初台北火車站發生性侵的這樣的一個事件造成社會的嘩然跟憤怒這也顯示我們相關車站對於婦女以及弱勢族群的這個保護這個安全網是嚴重的有問題當然台鐵公司跟鐵警局也有提出事項的加強台北車站\n安全防護的這些措施以及計畫那我要提醒部長跟董事長台北車站這個問題的核心並不是在於缺乏計畫而是缺乏執行力跟人力不足的問題那\n我們台北車站必須要加強這一種場域安全的這種風險的盤點以及人力配置不足的問題必須去做檢討跟改進來 董事長你們有什麼更具體的作為\n是的 我們這事情發生以後我們跟鐵井有這個聯訪的機制那我們做法就是把月台上的一些保全然後調到這個一樓這邊來每30分鐘的巡邏那這個部分是暫時的 現在目前這只是暫時\n董事長我剛才提醒過你補足人力是一個重要的議題還有相關的加強這種現場的防護網這也是重要的一個方向我們必須要知道台鐵公司在這兩方面有什麼更具體不是說什麼相關的措施或計畫更具體的執行力跟人力不足的問題你必須要面對\n是的 所以我們11月1號會把這個本來從那邊吊上來的這個我們就專責在月台上了那這樣的話就可以月台完全鎖住然後在這個大廳這邊的話我們也確實能夠做好這個訪問另外跟委員報告\n就是我們也會跟內政部來溝通就鐵井的部分人力可不可以增加那另外因為台北車站是重要的國家的關鍵設施我們可以透過這個國土辦公室來做專案的申請警力的這個協助這個部分我們也會協助台鐵公司部這邊來協助台鐵公司除了相關鐵井的增加之外是否也要徵聘相關的保全人員\n保全應該要增加保全應該要增加而且我們在跟鐵警局要協調協調設立相關的常駐的哨點常駐的哨點來確保相關高風險區域的一個基本的保障那像廁所大廳出入口等等那我們會做到24小時的這樣的一個巡守嗎來董事長說明一下24小時\n我們現在是沒有到24小時吧確實在我們在這個大廳這邊是24小時輪班那就跟這個鐵井那這個11月1號以後這個保全就是專責了好 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