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--> 00:01:23,493\n加強我們台鐵員工在上班的時候執行的時候的一個安全是跟委員報告其實台鐵公司針對這些案件也都相當注意那也很支持我們的員工在法律的訴訟上面他們有提供法律上面的支持那另外一方面就是也有在討論有沒有要裝密錄器這件事但是這個部分還沒有得到員工大家的\n\n5\n00:01:23,993 --> 00:01:40,804\n同意啦有些員工覺得不需要再裝這個設備那另外針對保全的部分今天也有討論到那我們也朝向未來保全人力如果可以增加還有鐵井的人力如果可以增加的話我們會盡量來爭取增加的這個緣額那還有一點就是說對於員工的這個訓練\n\n6\n00:01:42,165 --> 00:01:58,539\n就是維安的訓練這個部分可能我覺得台鐵公司也應該有作為也是對於員工如何保護自己的這個作為應該要做一定的訓練這個部分應該台鐵公司也有在做還有要董事長要補充一下嗎簡單補充一下\n\n7\n00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:13,531\n大概我們朝像這剛才部長講的那個方向在做尤其在我們自己防衛列車上的這個列車長還有我們站上的人員的這種自我防衛的方式然後相對的就等於是要制止這個\n\n8\n00:02:15,092 --> 00:02:40,376\n不法人員的部分我們會馬上我們有這種訓練那另外就是說如果是在受到這個旅客呢辱罵這些部分我們已經有設立我們這個法務的資源那麼對於如果員工要提高的話呢我們會對這個旅客來協助我們的員工來保護他職場上的安全\n\n9\n00:02:41,569 --> 00:03:05,415\n我們也希望就是說我們交通部跟台鐵公司這邊就是要去思考怎樣比較周到然後全面性的可以去防範這樣子的一個事件的發生那除了就是說這個遭遇這個蓄意的暴力攻擊之外我們也看到在10月27號在高雄捷運有發生了一件這個高中女生落軌身亡的一個意外事件\n\n10\n00:03:06,295 --> 00:03:15,961\n所以對於整個軌道運輸的越台的乘客的安全問題我想這個安全也是包括員工因為我們剛剛提到的台鐵員工被供給他是被推落到落下軌道\n\n11\n00:03:22,845 --> 00:03:38,286\n那在高雄捷運這個是高中女生落軌可能是自己跌下去的所以對於這個月台上這個安全的一個問題我們交通部這邊有沒有就是比較具體的一些可以推動的改善\n\n12\n00:03:38,866 --> 00:04:04,719\n跟委員報告除了剛剛在講的那些措施之外我們對於一些車站的月台門我們也開始在做精進我們目前高雄站應該實驗性的月台門已經做得差不多了嘛那明年三月明年三月就會安裝完成那如果實驗過後可以的話我們希望在重要的車站尤其是人潮比較眾多風險那個係數比較高的地方我們先來裝月台門\n\n13\n00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:12,093\n那除了台鐵之外高鐵其實也是會朝這個方向未來高鐵應該是每一個車站都會有月台門\n\n14\n00:04:13,657 --> 00:04:35,491\n我們看到目前台鐵做的這個就是月台門跟高鐵是不一樣的對因為台鐵的車型比較多種比較多樣化那因為他每一個車子的門開的地方不一樣跟高鐵不一樣高鐵是固定那個地方有車門但是台鐵每一個車型不同的話他那個車的開門的地方都不一樣\n\n15\n00:04:36,091 --> 00:04:53,312\n是所以這個纜繩市的月台門目前就是我們台鐵採用的一個設計那這個目前是還在就是測試階段嗎是的現在在測試那我們預計在明年的3月可以完成這個安裝\n\n16\n00:04:54,652 --> 00:05:21,247\n是高雄站还是全部就是高雄的部分我们先在高雄试用试办那整个状况如果顺畅的话以后我们就是往其他车站来推广是那我们也发现说这个目前在就是进行了这个工程造价好像蛮高的那未来在其他的车站在设置的时候还是会需要这么大的一个工程费用吗\n\n17\n00:05:22,268 --> 00:05:41,073\n這個部分的話確實以目前看來這個案子的經費是很大但是因為這裡面有牽涉到設計如果將來我們採取這個這個部分的這樣的形式那在其他的車站的話因為設計費用已經有包括在這邊了所以看是不是可以把費用往下降\n\n18\n00:05:43,513 --> 00:06:02,018\n接下來我想請教有關勞動條件的問題我們看到台鐵的企業工會提出了勞資爭議的調解總共有12項想請問部長或董事長對於他們的訴求您的看法如何\n\n19\n00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:28,945\n跟委員報告其實這12項這個工會的這個議題我們都非常的重視我也多次的跟他們的這個理事長還有相關的人員討論過那針對這裡面最重要的兩項其實我們在就是一個是夜點會跟這個主管家級的部分我們已經在通過我們的董事會來同意那夜點會的話我們從120\n\n20\n00:06:30,945 --> 00:06:55,287\n快錢的話那麼提升到最高可以到400塊那這個主板加息的話也提升大概都是50%以上的這個額度所以這一部分的話我們現在已經送往交通部在陳河中所以最近就會核定了是嗎交通部全力支持這兩個議案所以在這邊我們也很興建這個台鐵公司這個善意的一個回應\n\n21\n00:06:56,388 --> 00:07:22,413\n那目前就是宣布有關這個夜點費就是調升三倍了從120到400對那有關這個加擠的部分也有提升所以我覺得這部分我們是很肯定的那除了這個之外我們希望就是說對於其他的訴求我們也可以也是希望能夠有一些進度跟回應會的這部我們也持續在檢討會進行中\n\n22\n00:07:23,717 --> 00:07:47,541\nOK好謝謝鄭董事長那鄭董事長請先回座好了接下來我想請問有部長就是有關這個監理業務的問題因為我們看到在中台灣就是南投嘉義雲林都有兩處這個監理站包括監理分站那以彰化來說26鄉鎮123萬的人口目前就只有一個\n\n23\n00:07:51,322 --> 00:08:15,128\n監禮站是位在張北的花壇所以對於我們張南的甚至很遙遠的這個西藍角的部分大成方院竹塘二營這邊如果有相關的這個監禮業務要辦的時候對他們來說是非常遙遠所以很多這邊西藍角的鄉親遇到本席的時候都有在反映說希望在張南可以設這個監禮分站\n\n24\n00:08:17,188 --> 00:08:34,692\n那是不是請那個部長可以承諾跟委員報告這個部分我知道彰化其實浮雲非常遼闊那所以我們現在有用這個行動監理車的方式先短期先處理就是說我們有些行動監理車固定時間會到某些鄉鎮目前有嗎\n\n25\n00:08:35,433 --> 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跟委員報告其實台鐵公司針對這些案件也都相當注意那也很支持我們的員工在法律的訴訟上面他們有提供法律上面的支持那另外一方面就是也有在討論有沒有要裝密錄器這件事但是這個部分還沒有得到員工大家的\n83993\t100804\t同意啦有些員工覺得不需要再裝這個設備那另外針對保全的部分今天也有討論到那我們也朝向未來保全人力如果可以增加還有鐵井的人力如果可以增加的話我們會盡量來爭取增加的這個緣額那還有一點就是說對於員工的這個訓練\n102165\t118539\t就是維安的訓練這個部分可能我覺得台鐵公司也應該有作為也是對於員工如何保護自己的這個作為應該要做一定的訓練這個部分應該台鐵公司也有在做還有要董事長要補充一下嗎簡單補充一下\n119480\t133531\t大概我們朝像這剛才部長講的那個方向在做尤其在我們自己防衛列車上的這個列車長還有我們站上的人員的這種自我防衛的方式然後相對的就等於是要制止這個\n135092\t160376\t不法人員的部分我們會馬上 我們有這種訓練那另外就是說如果是在受到這個旅客呢辱罵這些部分我們已經有設立我們這個法務的資源那麼對於 如果員工要提高的話呢我們會對這個旅客來協助我們的員工來保護他職場上的安全\n161569\t185415\t我們也希望就是說我們交通部跟台鐵公司這邊就是要去思考怎樣比較周到然後全面性的可以去防範這樣子的一個事件的發生那除了就是說這個遭遇這個蓄意的暴力攻擊之外我們也看到在10月27號在高雄捷運有發生了一件這個高中女生落軌身亡的一個意外事件\n186295\t195961\t所以對於整個軌道運輸的越台的乘客的安全問題我想這個安全也是包括員工因為我們剛剛提到的台鐵員工被供給他是被推落到落下軌道\n202845\t218286\t那在高雄捷運這個是高中女生落軌可能是自己跌下去的所以對於這個月台上這個安全的一個問題我們交通部這邊有沒有就是比較具體的一些可以推動的改善\n218866\t244719\t跟委員報告 除了剛剛在講的那些措施之外我們對於一些車站的月台門我們也開始在做精進我們目前高雄站應該實驗性的月台門已經做得差不多了嘛那明年三月 明年三月就會安裝完成那如果實驗過後可以的話我們希望在重要的車站尤其是人潮比較眾多風險那個係數比較高的地方我們先來裝月台門\n245439\t252093\t那除了台鐵之外高鐵其實也是會朝這個方向未來高鐵應該是每一個車站都會有月台門\n253657\t275491\t我們看到目前台鐵做的這個就是月台門跟高鐵是不一樣的對因為台鐵的車型比較多種比較多樣化那因為他每一個車子的門開的地方不一樣跟高鐵不一樣高鐵是固定那個地方有車門但是台鐵每一個車型不同的話他那個車的開門的地方都不一樣\n276091\t293312\t是 所以這個纜繩市的月台門目前就是我們台鐵採用的一個設計那這個目前是還在就是測試階段嗎是的 現在在測試那我們預計在明年的3月可以完成這個安裝\n294652\t321247\t是高雄站还是全部就是高雄的部分我们先在高雄试用试办那整个状况如果顺畅的话以后我们就是往其他车站来推广是 那我们也发现说这个目前在就是进行了这个工程造价好像蛮高的那未来在其他的车站在设置的时候还是会需要这么大的一个工程费用吗\n322268\t341073\t這個部分的話確實以目前看來這個案子的經費是很大但是因為這裡面有牽涉到設計如果將來我們採取這個這個部分的這樣的形式那在其他的車站的話因為設計費用已經有包括在這邊了所以看是不是可以把費用往下降\n343513\t362018\t接下來我想請教有關勞動條件的問題我們看到台鐵的企業工會提出了勞資爭議的調解總共有12項想請問部長或董事長對於他們的訴求您的看法如何\n364400\t388945\t跟委員報告其實這12項這個工會的這個議題我們都非常的重視我也多次的跟他們的這個理事長還有相關的人員討論過那針對這裡面最重要的兩項其實我們在就是一個是夜點會跟這個主管家級的部分我們已經在通過我們的董事會來同意那夜點會的話我們從120\n390945\t415287\t快錢的話那麼提升到最高可以到400塊那這個主板加息的話也提升大概都是50%以上的這個額度所以這一部分的話我們現在已經送往交通部在陳河中所以最近就會核定了是嗎交通部全力支持這兩個議案所以在這邊我們也很興建這個台鐵公司這個善意的一個回應\n416388\t442413\t那目前就是宣布有關這個夜點費就是調升三倍了從120到400對那有關這個加擠的部分也有提升所以我覺得這部分我們是很肯定的那除了這個之外我們希望就是說對於其他的訴求我們也可以也是希望能夠有一些進度跟回應會的這部我們也持續在檢討會進行中\n443717\t467541\tOK好謝謝鄭董事長那鄭董事長請先回座好了接下來我想請問有部長就是有關這個監理業務的問題因為我們看到在中台灣就是南投嘉義雲林都有兩處這個監理站包括監理分站那以彰化來說26鄉鎮123萬的人口目前就只有一個\n471322\t495128\t監禮站是位在張北的花壇所以對於我們張南的甚至很遙遠的這個西藍角的部分大成方院竹塘二營這邊如果有相關的這個監禮業務要辦的時候對他們來說是非常遙遠所以很多這邊西藍角的鄉親遇到本席的時候都有在反映說希望在張南可以設這個監禮分站\n497188\t514692\t那是不是請那個部長可以承諾跟委員報告這個部分我知道彰化其實浮雲非常遼闊那所以我們現在有用這個行動監理車的方式先短期先處理就是說我們有些行動監理車固定時間會到某些鄉鎮目前有嗎\n515433\t536646\t目前應該是有啦目前是有有在做行動監理車的部分會先做那另外就是委員在講的張南的監理站我們現在先優先我們去跟彰化縣政府也好或者是說找地區的鄉公所大家來合作因為如果你還要蓋再找地那還要一段時間那如果可以用他現在的公所可以跟我們合屬辦公或者是衛生\n537546\t556890\t所可以跟我們合署辦公的話 我們會優先來處理 優先來辦理好 那就是就部長回覆的這個答案我是可以接受啦那可是我希望有一個進度 是不是 那進度我們後續再跟委員報告 會後是不是請那個相關的主管 沒問題 沒問題 跟我們這邊聯繫一下 沒問題 沒問題好 謝謝部長\n","txt":"謝謝主席 請主席邀請陳部長還有鄭董事長陳部長 鄭董事長請鄭董事長 謝謝委員好部長早\n今天委員會是針對台鐵各地車站旅客安全措施檢討以及改善員工職場安全的一個專題報告在這邊本席首先針對有關就是這個車站的安全的問題那我們看到從今年從4月到現在10月份短短的半年之間就發生了7件台鐵員工遭受到暴力攻擊的一個事件\n那針對這樣子的屢次發生的這樣子的一個事件我想對於台鐵員工在工作上也會有這個承受的很大的一個壓力所以在這個部分不曉得我們交通部有沒有比較積極的對策可以來\n加強我們台鐵員工在上班的時候執行的時候的一個安全是 跟委員報告其實台鐵公司針對這些案件也都相當注意那也很支持我們的員工在法律的訴訟上面他們有提供法律上面的支持那另外一方面就是也有在討論有沒有要裝密錄器這件事但是這個部分還沒有得到員工大家的\n同意啦有些員工覺得不需要再裝這個設備那另外針對保全的部分今天也有討論到那我們也朝向未來保全人力如果可以增加還有鐵井的人力如果可以增加的話我們會盡量來爭取增加的這個緣額那還有一點就是說對於員工的這個訓練\n就是維安的訓練這個部分可能我覺得台鐵公司也應該有作為也是對於員工如何保護自己的這個作為應該要做一定的訓練這個部分應該台鐵公司也有在做還有要董事長要補充一下嗎簡單補充一下\n大概我們朝像這剛才部長講的那個方向在做尤其在我們自己防衛列車上的這個列車長還有我們站上的人員的這種自我防衛的方式然後相對的就等於是要制止這個\n不法人員的部分我們會馬上 我們有這種訓練那另外就是說如果是在受到這個旅客呢辱罵這些部分我們已經有設立我們這個法務的資源那麼對於 如果員工要提高的話呢我們會對這個旅客來協助我們的員工來保護他職場上的安全\n我們也希望就是說我們交通部跟台鐵公司這邊就是要去思考怎樣比較周到然後全面性的可以去防範這樣子的一個事件的發生那除了就是說這個遭遇這個蓄意的暴力攻擊之外我們也看到在10月27號在高雄捷運有發生了一件這個高中女生落軌身亡的一個意外事件\n所以對於整個軌道運輸的越台的乘客的安全問題我想這個安全也是包括員工因為我們剛剛提到的台鐵員工被供給他是被推落到落下軌道\n那在高雄捷運這個是高中女生落軌可能是自己跌下去的所以對於這個月台上這個安全的一個問題我們交通部這邊有沒有就是比較具體的一些可以推動的改善\n跟委員報告 除了剛剛在講的那些措施之外我們對於一些車站的月台門我們也開始在做精進我們目前高雄站應該實驗性的月台門已經做得差不多了嘛那明年三月 明年三月就會安裝完成那如果實驗過後可以的話我們希望在重要的車站尤其是人潮比較眾多風險那個係數比較高的地方我們先來裝月台門\n那除了台鐵之外高鐵其實也是會朝這個方向未來高鐵應該是每一個車站都會有月台門\n我們看到目前台鐵做的這個就是月台門跟高鐵是不一樣的對因為台鐵的車型比較多種比較多樣化那因為他每一個車子的門開的地方不一樣跟高鐵不一樣高鐵是固定那個地方有車門但是台鐵每一個車型不同的話他那個車的開門的地方都不一樣\n是 所以這個纜繩市的月台門目前就是我們台鐵採用的一個設計那這個目前是還在就是測試階段嗎是的 現在在測試那我們預計在明年的3月可以完成這個安裝\n是高雄站还是全部就是高雄的部分我们先在高雄试用试办那整个状况如果顺畅的话以后我们就是往其他车站来推广是 那我们也发现说这个目前在就是进行了这个工程造价好像蛮高的那未来在其他的车站在设置的时候还是会需要这么大的一个工程费用吗\n這個部分的話確實以目前看來這個案子的經費是很大但是因為這裡面有牽涉到設計如果將來我們採取這個這個部分的這樣的形式那在其他的車站的話因為設計費用已經有包括在這邊了所以看是不是可以把費用往下降\n接下來我想請教有關勞動條件的問題我們看到台鐵的企業工會提出了勞資爭議的調解總共有12項想請問部長或董事長對於他們的訴求您的看法如何\n跟委員報告其實這12項這個工會的這個議題我們都非常的重視我也多次的跟他們的這個理事長還有相關的人員討論過那針對這裡面最重要的兩項其實我們在就是一個是夜點會跟這個主管家級的部分我們已經在通過我們的董事會來同意那夜點會的話我們從120\n快錢的話那麼提升到最高可以到400塊那這個主板加息的話也提升大概都是50%以上的這個額度所以這一部分的話我們現在已經送往交通部在陳河中所以最近就會核定了是嗎交通部全力支持這兩個議案所以在這邊我們也很興建這個台鐵公司這個善意的一個回應\n那目前就是宣布有關這個夜點費就是調升三倍了從120到400對那有關這個加擠的部分也有提升所以我覺得這部分我們是很肯定的那除了這個之外我們希望就是說對於其他的訴求我們也可以也是希望能夠有一些進度跟回應會的這部我們也持續在檢討會進行中\nOK好謝謝鄭董事長那鄭董事長請先回座好了接下來我想請問有部長就是有關這個監理業務的問題因為我們看到在中台灣就是南投嘉義雲林都有兩處這個監理站包括監理分站那以彰化來說26鄉鎮123萬的人口目前就只有一個\n監禮站是位在張北的花壇所以對於我們張南的甚至很遙遠的這個西藍角的部分大成方院竹塘二營這邊如果有相關的這個監禮業務要辦的時候對他們來說是非常遙遠所以很多這邊西藍角的鄉親遇到本席的時候都有在反映說希望在張南可以設這個監禮分站\n那是不是請那個部長可以承諾跟委員報告這個部分我知道彰化其實浮雲非常遼闊那所以我們現在有用這個行動監理車的方式先短期先處理就是說我們有些行動監理車固定時間會到某些鄉鎮目前有嗎\n目前應該是有啦目前是有有在做行動監理車的部分會先做那另外就是委員在講的張南的監理站我們現在先優先我們去跟彰化縣政府也好或者是說找地區的鄉公所大家來合作因為如果你還要蓋再找地那還要一段時間那如果可以用他現在的公所可以跟我們合屬辦公或者是衛生\n所可以跟我們合署辦公的話 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