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00:00:44,463\n就是衛星的照片包含整個所有地面的一些細節我想他們的衛星看得很勤動作很勤也看得很密幾乎隨時都可以取得這些影像我想他已經把自家的衛星會不會有可能也是對於台灣的一些戰略的一個不管是縱橫這樣子的一個掌握我想我們有沒有什麼樣的因應的方式\n\n3\n00:00:49,366 --> 00:00:55,292\n那我的問題是就是我們的情報蒐集跟驗證會不會跟不上他們對方的影像更新的一個速度我們要怎麼樣來減少這樣子的一個差距這是第一個問題那第二個問題是有沒有哪一些方法我們可以降低或者是我們來做這個對抗所謂的他們的高解析度的一個衛星所帶來的這些情搜的一些優勢\n\n4\n00:01:11,309 --> 00:01:34,902\n那有沒有哪一些的技術或者是哪一些防防的措施我們是可以來做採取的那第三個問題是這些影像透明化對於所謂的軍事的一個動機那跟他那個關鍵的設施的一個防護還有我們這個指揮的體系會不會造成哪一些具體的一個風險有沒有量化的一些評估我們有沒有在做這樣子的一個部分那進程又是什麼\n\n5\n00:01:35,462 --> 00:01:49,727\n那第四個就是國家地理的一個資訊的系統跟國土的這個測會的空間的資料庫如果將來是被害或者是呢有一些資料被滲透了那會不會也跟這些衛星相互有一些交互驗證之後加劇\n\n6\n00:01:51,587 --> 00:02:16,401\n資料外洩的一個問題以上四個問題請教一下謝委員的提醒跟指教那第二部分是針對科技情報的收集那這是本局的主要的重點那事實上在過去兩年也針對我們局裡面的科技情報單位做了一個重新的組織改造那目的就是希望不管是在訊號情報或影像情報可以掌握得更精準那中共在收集我們的相關的偽造我們也在收集他們的而且我們的數量不會比他們少\n\n7\n00:02:16,721 --> 00:02:42,610\n那也是會針對中共相關的軍事動態軍事設施的部署那都會有完整的掌握來做分析這是第一個部分的報告那第二部分的報告是假如說它的衛照鎖定的是我們的重要的戰略或軍事的要塞的話那當然這一部分國防部他都有一些應處的作為包括怎麼樣來加強危險的措施讓它的衛照的拍攝清晰度不佳或是因為跟地形地物地貌的融入沒有辦法精準的來判斷相關設備的實際的狀況\n\n8\n00:02:45,131 --> 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謝委員的提醒跟指教那第二部分是針對科技情報的收集那這是本局的主要的重點那事實上在過去兩年也針對我們局裡面的科技情報單位做了一個重新的組織改造那目的就是希望不管是在訊號情報或影像情報可以掌握得更精準那中共在收集我們的相關的偽造我們也在收集他們的而且我們的數量不會比他們少\n那也是會針對中共相關的軍事動態軍事設施的部署那都會有完整的掌握來做分析這是第一個部分的報告那第二部分的報告是假如說它的衛照鎖定的是我們的重要的戰略或軍事的要塞的話那當然這一部分國防部他都有一些應處的作為包括怎麼樣來加強危險的措施讓它的衛照的拍攝清晰度不佳或是因為跟地形地物地貌的融入沒有辦法精準的來判斷相關設備的實際的狀況\n那另外有一個蠻重要的做法是我們的相關的武器裝備也要更能夠機動化的來做調整跟部署那這樣子讓他的衛照永遠比較跟不上我們相關機動部署跟靈活運用的一個策略的一個運用這大概是另一個說明\n那第三個部分是在整個委員擔心的未照再配合到相關資安的侵害中共也許可以做大數據的分析更掌握我們相關的一個狀況那這部分確實應該要來注意所以針對中共對我們的科技情報收集那可能的手法那以及我們怎麼樣來阻絕包括資安的部分怎麼樣來阻絕\n那確實我們是列為一個重要的重點的工作那也有一些專案在處理但因為國安局主要的夜館會針對我們的情報11個機關來強化我們這方面的建制那後續怎麼樣把我們情報單位的做法再推廣到政府其他單位也能夠來注意到中共科技情報的運用不管是衛照電偵或是網駭來做大數據分析之後對我們國安的相關的情質掌握會更為細緻那這個部分我們再來加強\n最後一個小問題就是說我們在這個所謂的反制的一個技術上面我們有沒有跟國際有一些配合那我們怎麼樣來合作然後讓國際來協助這樣子的一個管道有有有因為這個也是老師跟我們報告這是我們現在國際情報交流科技情報是主要的重點之一那衛照的部分除了傳統的光學衛星以外後續還有這種合成孔徑的衛星那這一部分都是比較新的技術那也是我們跟國際友盟在交換情資進行科技情報交流的主要重點\n好那最後就是剛剛回應一下這個我們賴志寶委員就是我們要加強這個委員的在外的人身的安全替沈伯陽講一下話好這個我們要注意謝謝他謝謝他的關心謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.117 --> 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