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--> 00:00:41,190\n部長早部長我想最近這個汽車市場這個瀰漫一個新的一個訊息尤其是針對目前這個台美貿易談判最近聽說這個美製的車輛進口關稅可能會降到零所以這些新購汽車新購主這個躍躍欲試不曉得部長有沒有接到這樣一個訊息報告委員交通部的部分我們是負責安全審驗的部分\n\n3\n00:00:41,710 --> 00:00:56,462\n那至於關稅的部分那是財政部我們目前沒有接到他們任何的訊息部長認為如果這個一口氣宣佈到零的時候對整個國內這個交通的影響跟環境會不會有受到衝擊有人說這個對特斯拉看有何處\n\n4\n00:00:57,423 --> 00:01:16,517\n部長認為呢我覺得啦應該會對於整體的車市都有蠻重大的影響車的價格或許會稍微調降一些部長那我想我們過去也一直提到這個所謂的一個運具電動化的一個目標那包含我們的電動巴士也好我們這個商用的小客車也好\n\n5\n00:01:17,538 --> 00:01:37,097\n過去我們有提到一個商用車輛電動化跟無碳化的一個減碳旗艦行動計畫要提供這個計程車購車補助每輛最高35萬那這部分但是我們在這個明年的預算裡面並沒有看到這一項的編列那這部分會執行嗎是我請市長跟委員回答一下\n\n6\n00:01:39,640 --> 00:02:04,596\n跟委員報告那個商用車電動化旗艦計畫是因為是由環境部在統籌來送院審查那院是在9月30號已經核給環境部了那因為9月30號大概因為來不及編115年的預算那我們現在會著手編116年的預算所以要再慢一年對對因為已經那個來不及編明年的預算\n\n7\n00:02:05,373 --> 00:02:33,673\n不懂我想這個推動這樣低碳的一個環境也是我們努力的目標沒錯那尤其針對這個電動巴士的部分感覺上我們的進度比較慢一點電動巴士如果是市區公車的話我們這個進度還是在預期的進度上這個沒問題那我們那預算也有編列所以明年度如果有需要的話各個地方政府提出來我們都會來協助不是地方各個公司啦各個客運公司如果提出來我們都會來協助\n\n8\n00:02:33,973 --> 00:02:58,356\n好我想這個我們應該要列為我們很重要的一個目標是沒錯部長那我想我上一次質詢有特別提到這個因為我們今年這個從九月到十月有三個這個連假嘛是那當然我知道部長也很很用心也有自己有跑到我們南部來看一下整個疏運的狀況但是最近有發生了一個高鐵這個有乘客因為這個行李的關係下不了車一個狀況\n\n9\n00:02:59,457 --> 00:03:28,456\n那我有特別提到明年至少有九個連駕那我們在整個鐵路公路還有這個高鐵運輸的部分我們有沒有做一個比較嚴謹的一個規劃我想我們應該避免這樣一個狀況發生怎麼樣做營運跟委員報告對交通部來講我們希望各個運具的運量要均衡所以這幾年我們一直在努力說希望鼓勵大家去搭國道客運那那個都有打折甚至最低打到六折六五折\n\n10\n00:03:29,076 --> 00:03:55,581\n那都是由交通部這邊來補助讓大家可以去搭乘不一樣的運具台鐵也很舒服那國道客運也很舒服但最近確實有觀察到很多的民眾是習慣搭高鐵那高鐵越來越擁擠的這個議題其實我們從這一兩年來我們一直在討論這個議題那最嚴重的就像委員您所提出來的高鐵上有人下不了車這個對旅客來講是蠻嚴重的事情\n\n11\n00:03:56,101 --> 00:04:14,513\n那我們也在跟高鐵公司正在研商看什麼樣的方法例如說是不是哪一些特別會擁擠的班次我們的自由座的人數有沒有要管控因為如果你完全不管控的狀況底下大家就是把它塞到滿塞到滿就會有上不了車或下不了車的問題\n\n12\n00:04:15,513 --> 00:04:40,818\n那這個部分我們還在討論我們幾乎每天都在坐高鐵我們都看得到因為我們現在很多國外旅客大家都大包小包啦行李非常大非常多而且都很大那尤其我們一些像板橋業或什麼這些小站的停留時間比較短那我們的工作人員如果沒有注意真的就會發生這樣下不了車的狀況對沒錯變工這個我要到台中或是哪裡的人被擠在車上所以我覺得\n\n13\n00:04:41,818 --> 00:05:09,034\n當然這個今天高鐵是董事長沒有來未來應該是不是要檢討像董事長講的部長講的未來針對自由做的部分還是有沒有這個整個運量調整的部分有沒有怎麼樣一個分流的一個措施應該去思考一下是報告員我們這個會持續跟高鐵公司來研商確實要做人潮的分流那甚至是人潮的管控這個部分其實要去做如果我們做讓他禮拜一早上禮拜一早上跟禮拜五下班更恐怖\n\n14\n00:05:09,795 --> 00:05:17,206\n對都會塞得很滿都會塞得很滿好這部分再麻煩我們這個部分我們來跟高鐵公司一起來那麻煩我們台鐵政董事長謝謝\n\n15\n00:05:28,022 --> 00:05:49,157\n董事長我想我們現在台鐵公司化之後大家都寄予厚望那我知道您這個上任之後您也一直在努力調整我們這個整個一個內部的環境但是現在我們工會的部分因為這個過去也有一個類似這個跟我們公司體制裡面有一些抗衡的一些包含捍衛勞工權的一些做法\n\n16\n00:05:49,938 --> 00:05:57,868\n那董事長未來針對這樣的一個廉價還有我們這個勞工的一個權益問題董事長有沒有什麼樣的看法會不會再發生一個抗爭的一個事件\n\n17\n00:05:59,185 --> 00:06:26,025\n謝謝委員的關心那事實上跟工會這邊我一上任以後我一直跟我們的工會保持一個非常通暢的一個協調那他們最關心的這個12項這個福利事項那我也在裡面最重要的兩點就是一個是夜點會一個是主管加擠這個部分我們已經通過董事會的這個核定那其中夜點會我們從120增加到最高400塊\n\n18\n00:06:27,506 --> 00:06:49,010\n那另外我們的這個主管加級方面大概也都是加了50%以上所以這一部分的話現在已經送到董事會裡面送到這個交通部這邊來核定如果核定以後我們可以夜點會我們明年的1月1號就可以來實施那這個主管加級的話我們會今年會回溯到今年的1月1號那這樣的話我想這樣的話對工會應該有這個\n\n19\n00:06:52,771 --> 00:07:16,444\n一個非常像作用的好的作用那其他的部分我們也持續在檢討董事長我想我們這個見了好幾次面我也有特別跟你提到我們這個年輕的這個同仁的一個心聲他們有些住在屏東住在高雄但是因為當時分發在東部或在北部感覺做廚跟吃飯就沒有了\n\n20\n00:07:17,344 --> 00:07:37,373\n怎麼樣回家帶回家每次他們的使徒都跟我說委員你把手機都調回來好不好我說因為你們公司有調動的一個制度但是我們還是期待在招考的過程裡面真的要有要有一樣相關的配套措施啊能夠讓這些年輕人能夠願意回到我們自己的家鄉這樣子這他們都很客氣啦\n\n21\n00:07:40,174 --> 00:07:59,760\n改天他帶不下去就跑去別的地方考試因為我們的基層的同仁都在缺因為都調不回來這是一個很嚴重的一個困境部長願意支持這樣的一個處理方式嗎報告委員我也相當支持因為確實台鐵要留才除了薪資以外他整體的勞動條件然後還有就是他的住宿的問題\n\n22\n00:08:00,700 --> 00:08:19,961\n如果可以讓他自己在自己的家鄉當然就很好對於未來流財一定會有幫助那我也請台鐵公司我們朝這個方向來演繹看怎麼協助所有的年輕員工可以更幸福的在這個地方工作對了我們都期待大家真的能夠安居樂業這個是我們幸福企業的一個表徵那最後我想\n\n23\n00:08:20,862 --> 00:08:46,823\n那個部長針對屏東的交通建設高鐵南延屏東還有我們這個訪寮大平台的計畫甚至這個屏南快速道路我想多次我在院會跟委員都在質詢是我知道部長跟我們相關的主管都很用心但是速度真的有比較慢了是尤其我們這個鐵路也沒有雙軌這個例如我到到現在那個屏南快速道路還要好幾年高鐵\n\n24\n00:08:49,225 --> 00:09:12,902\n2039我們的中北巡邏都跟我說這不是坐得到的真的聽到都心酸了部長真的你要展現你的決心均衡台灣交通建設覺得是重中之重部長能承諾加快施程嗎好報告委員這個部分我們全力來加速有很多的交通建設都是大家所期待也是真正要均衡台灣必須要做的一個前提所以我們交通部會全力來加速那最後針對我們這個捷運這個小港到\n\n25\n00:09:17,128 --> 00:09:26,365\n林編這條我想我們最近也跟高雄市政府繼續在溝通協調那目前的進程還有所謂的施工方式局長有沒有新的變化\n\n26\n00:09:27,698 --> 00:09:50,907\n我想目前我們在這個月初有召開過一次會議邀請屏東縣政府跟高雄市政府來做討論我們後面會繼續來做溝通因為現在是系統跟這個高架地下還有這個石化園區上面的這個相關的這些議題要做出了部長這是屏東第一條啦是是希望不要胎死腹中我很擔心好好我們一起來努力拜託一下謝謝來努力謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5117\t6368\t謝謝主席有請我們陳部長陳部長請\n15462\t41190\t部長早部長我想最近這個汽車市場這個瀰漫一個新的一個訊息尤其是針對目前這個台美貿易談判最近聽說這個美製的車輛進口關稅可能會降到零所以這些新購汽車新購主這個躍躍欲試不曉得部長有沒有接到這樣一個訊息報告委員交通部的部分我們是負責安全審驗的部分\n41710\t56462\t那至於關稅的部分那是財政部我們目前沒有接到他們任何的訊息部長認為如果這個一口氣宣佈到零的時候對整個國內這個交通的影響跟環境會不會有受到衝擊有人說這個對特斯拉看有何處\n57423\t76517\t部長認為呢我覺得啦應該會對於整體的車市都有蠻重大的影響車的價格或許會稍微調降一些部長那我想我們過去也一直提到這個所謂的一個運具電動化的一個目標那包含我們的電動巴士也好我們這個商用的小客車也好\n77538\t97097\t過去我們有提到一個商用車輛電動化跟無碳化的一個減碳旗艦行動計畫要提供這個計程車購車補助每輛最高35萬那這部分但是我們在這個明年的預算裡面並沒有看到這一項的編列那這部分會執行嗎是我請市長跟委員回答一下\n99640\t124596\t跟委員報告那個商用車電動化旗艦計畫是因為是由環境部在統籌來送院審查那院是在9月30號已經核給環境部了那因為9月30號大概因為來不及編115年的預算那我們現在會著手編116年的預算所以要再慢一年對對因為已經那個來不及編明年的預算\n125373\t153673\t不懂我想這個推動這樣低碳的一個環境也是我們努力的目標 沒錯那尤其針對這個電動巴士的部分感覺上我們的進度比較慢一點電動巴士如果是市區公車的話我們這個進度還是在預期的進度上這個沒問題 那我們那預算也有編列所以明年度如果有需要的話各個地方政府提出來我們都會來協助不是地方各個公司啦各個客運公司如果提出來我們都會來協助\n153973\t178356\t好 我想這個我們應該要列為我們很重要的一個目標 是 沒錯部長 那我想我上一次質詢有特別提到這個因為我們今年這個從九月到十月有三個這個連假嘛 是那當然我知道部長也很很用心也有自己有跑到我們南部來看一下整個疏運的狀況但是最近有發生了一個高鐵這個有乘客因為這個行李的關係下不了車一個狀況\n179457\t208456\t那我有特別提到明年至少有九個連駕那我們在整個鐵路公路還有這個高鐵運輸的部分我們有沒有做一個比較嚴謹的一個規劃我想我們應該避免這樣一個狀況發生怎麼樣做營運跟委員報告對交通部來講我們希望各個運具的運量要均衡所以這幾年我們一直在努力說希望鼓勵大家去搭國道客運那那個都有打折甚至最低打到六折六五折\n209076\t235581\t那都是由交通部這邊來補助讓大家可以去搭乘不一樣的運具台鐵也很舒服那國道客運也很舒服但最近確實有觀察到很多的民眾是習慣搭高鐵那高鐵越來越擁擠的這個議題其實我們從這一兩年來我們一直在討論這個議題那最嚴重的就像委員您所提出來的高鐵上有人下不了車這個對旅客來講是蠻嚴重的事情\n236101\t254513\t那我們也在跟高鐵公司正在研商看什麼樣的方法例如說是不是哪一些特別會擁擠的班次我們的自由座的人數有沒有要管控因為如果你完全不管控的狀況底下大家就是把它塞到滿塞到滿就會有上不了車或下不了車的問題\n255513\t280818\t那這個部分我們還在討論我們幾乎每天都在坐高鐵我們都看得到因為我們現在很多國外旅客大家都大包小包啦行李非常大非常多而且都很大那尤其我們一些像板橋業或什麼這些小站的停留時間比較短那我們的工作人員如果沒有注意真的就會發生這樣下不了車的狀況對沒錯變工這個我要到台中或是哪裡的人被擠在車上所以我覺得\n281818\t309034\t當然這個今天高鐵是董事長沒有來未來應該是不是要檢討像董事長講的部長講的未來針對自由做的部分還是有沒有這個整個運量調整的部分有沒有怎麼樣一個分流的一個措施應該去思考一下是 報告員我們這個會持續跟高鐵公司來研商確實要做人潮的分流那甚至是人潮的管控這個部分其實要去做如果我們做讓他禮拜一早上禮拜一早上跟禮拜五下班更恐怖\n309795\t317206\t對 都會塞得很滿 都會塞得很滿好 這部分再麻煩 我們這個部分我們來跟高鐵公司一起來那麻煩我們台鐵政董事長 謝謝\n328022\t349157\t董事長我想我們現在台鐵公司化之後大家都寄予厚望那我知道您這個上任之後您也一直在努力調整我們這個整個一個內部的環境但是現在我們工會的部分因為這個過去也有一個類似這個跟我們公司體制裡面有一些抗衡的一些包含捍衛勞工權的一些做法\n349938\t357868\t那董事長 未來針對這樣的一個廉價還有我們這個勞工的一個權益問題 董事長有沒有什麼樣的看法 會不會再發生一個抗爭的一個事件\n359185\t386025\t謝謝委員的關心那事實上跟工會這邊我一上任以後我一直跟我們的工會保持一個非常通暢的一個協調那他們最關心的這個12項這個福利事項那我也在裡面最重要的兩點就是一個是夜點會一個是主管加擠這個部分我們已經通過董事會的這個核定那其中夜點會我們從120增加到最高400塊\n387506\t409010\t那另外我們的這個主管加級方面大概也都是加了50%以上所以這一部分的話現在已經送到董事會裡面送到這個交通部這邊來核定如果核定以後我們可以夜點會我們明年的1月1號就可以來實施那這個主管加級的話我們會今年會回溯到今年的1月1號那這樣的話我想這樣的話對工會應該有這個\n412771\t436444\t一個非常像作用的好的作用那其他的部分我們也持續在檢討董事長我想我們這個見了好幾次面我也有特別跟你提到我們這個年輕的這個同仁的一個心聲他們有些住在屏東住在高雄但是因為當時分發在東部或在北部感覺做廚跟吃飯就沒有了\n437344\t457373\t怎麼樣回家帶回家每次他們的使徒都跟我說委員你把手機都調回來好不好我說因為你們公司有調動的一個制度但是我們還是期待在招考的過程裡面真的要有要有一樣相關的配套措施啊能夠讓這些年輕人能夠願意回到我們自己的家鄉這樣子這他們都很客氣啦\n460174\t479760\t改天他帶不下去就跑去別的地方考試因為我們的基層的同仁都在缺因為都調不回來這是一個很嚴重的一個困境部長願意支持這樣的一個處理方式嗎報告委員我也相當支持因為確實台鐵要留才除了薪資以外他整體的勞動條件然後還有就是他的住宿的問題\n480700\t499961\t如果可以讓他自己在自己的家鄉當然就很好對於未來流財一定會有幫助那我也請台鐵公司我們朝這個方向來演繹看怎麼協助所有的年輕員工可以更幸福的在這個地方工作對了我們都期待大家真的能夠安居樂業這個是我們幸福企業的一個表徵那最後我想\n500862\t526823\t那個部長 針對屏東的交通建設高鐵 南延 屏東 還有我們這個訪寮大平台的計畫 甚至這個屏南快速道路 我想多次我在院會跟委員都在質詢 是 我知道部長跟我們相關的主管都很用心但是速度真的有比較慢了 是 尤其我們這個鐵路也沒有雙軌這個例如我到 到現在那個屏南快速道路還要好幾年 高鐵\n529225\t552902\t2039 我們的中北巡邏都跟我說這不是坐得到的真的聽到都心酸了部長真的你要展現你的決心均衡台灣交通建設覺得是重中之重部長能承諾加快施程嗎好 報告委員這個部分我們全力來加速有很多的交通建設都是大家所期待也是真正要均衡台灣必須要做的一個前提所以我們交通部會全力來加速那最後針對我們這個捷運這個小港到\n557128\t566365\t林編這條我想我們最近也跟高雄市政府繼續在溝通協調那目前的進程還有所謂的施工方式局長有沒有新的變化\n567698\t590907\t我想目前我們在這個月初有召開過一次會議邀請屏東縣政府跟高雄市政府來做討論我們後面會繼續來做溝通因為現在是系統跟這個高架地下還有這個石化園區上面的這個相關的這些議題要做出了 部長這是屏東第一條啦 是是 希望不要胎死腹中我很擔心 好好我們一起來努力 拜託一下 謝謝來努力 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席有請我們陳部長陳部長請\n部長早部長我想最近這個汽車市場這個瀰漫一個新的一個訊息尤其是針對目前這個台美貿易談判最近聽說這個美製的車輛進口關稅可能會降到零所以這些新購汽車新購主這個躍躍欲試不曉得部長有沒有接到這樣一個訊息報告委員交通部的部分我們是負責安全審驗的部分\n那至於關稅的部分那是財政部我們目前沒有接到他們任何的訊息部長認為如果這個一口氣宣佈到零的時候對整個國內這個交通的影響跟環境會不會有受到衝擊有人說這個對特斯拉看有何處\n部長認為呢我覺得啦應該會對於整體的車市都有蠻重大的影響車的價格或許會稍微調降一些部長那我想我們過去也一直提到這個所謂的一個運具電動化的一個目標那包含我們的電動巴士也好我們這個商用的小客車也好\n過去我們有提到一個商用車輛電動化跟無碳化的一個減碳旗艦行動計畫要提供這個計程車購車補助每輛最高35萬那這部分但是我們在這個明年的預算裡面並沒有看到這一項的編列那這部分會執行嗎是我請市長跟委員回答一下\n跟委員報告那個商用車電動化旗艦計畫是因為是由環境部在統籌來送院審查那院是在9月30號已經核給環境部了那因為9月30號大概因為來不及編115年的預算那我們現在會著手編116年的預算所以要再慢一年對對因為已經那個來不及編明年的預算\n不懂我想這個推動這樣低碳的一個環境也是我們努力的目標 沒錯那尤其針對這個電動巴士的部分感覺上我們的進度比較慢一點電動巴士如果是市區公車的話我們這個進度還是在預期的進度上這個沒問題 那我們那預算也有編列所以明年度如果有需要的話各個地方政府提出來我們都會來協助不是地方各個公司啦各個客運公司如果提出來我們都會來協助\n好 我想這個我們應該要列為我們很重要的一個目標 是 沒錯部長 那我想我上一次質詢有特別提到這個因為我們今年這個從九月到十月有三個這個連假嘛 是那當然我知道部長也很很用心也有自己有跑到我們南部來看一下整個疏運的狀況但是最近有發生了一個高鐵這個有乘客因為這個行李的關係下不了車一個狀況\n那我有特別提到明年至少有九個連駕那我們在整個鐵路公路還有這個高鐵運輸的部分我們有沒有做一個比較嚴謹的一個規劃我想我們應該避免這樣一個狀況發生怎麼樣做營運跟委員報告對交通部來講我們希望各個運具的運量要均衡所以這幾年我們一直在努力說希望鼓勵大家去搭國道客運那那個都有打折甚至最低打到六折六五折\n那都是由交通部這邊來補助讓大家可以去搭乘不一樣的運具台鐵也很舒服那國道客運也很舒服但最近確實有觀察到很多的民眾是習慣搭高鐵那高鐵越來越擁擠的這個議題其實我們從這一兩年來我們一直在討論這個議題那最嚴重的就像委員您所提出來的高鐵上有人下不了車這個對旅客來講是蠻嚴重的事情\n那我們也在跟高鐵公司正在研商看什麼樣的方法例如說是不是哪一些特別會擁擠的班次我們的自由座的人數有沒有要管控因為如果你完全不管控的狀況底下大家就是把它塞到滿塞到滿就會有上不了車或下不了車的問題\n那這個部分我們還在討論我們幾乎每天都在坐高鐵我們都看得到因為我們現在很多國外旅客大家都大包小包啦行李非常大非常多而且都很大那尤其我們一些像板橋業或什麼這些小站的停留時間比較短那我們的工作人員如果沒有注意真的就會發生這樣下不了車的狀況對沒錯變工這個我要到台中或是哪裡的人被擠在車上所以我覺得\n當然這個今天高鐵是董事長沒有來未來應該是不是要檢討像董事長講的部長講的未來針對自由做的部分還是有沒有這個整個運量調整的部分有沒有怎麼樣一個分流的一個措施應該去思考一下是 報告員我們這個會持續跟高鐵公司來研商確實要做人潮的分流那甚至是人潮的管控這個部分其實要去做如果我們做讓他禮拜一早上禮拜一早上跟禮拜五下班更恐怖\n對 都會塞得很滿 都會塞得很滿好 這部分再麻煩 我們這個部分我們來跟高鐵公司一起來那麻煩我們台鐵政董事長 謝謝\n董事長我想我們現在台鐵公司化之後大家都寄予厚望那我知道您這個上任之後您也一直在努力調整我們這個整個一個內部的環境但是現在我們工會的部分因為這個過去也有一個類似這個跟我們公司體制裡面有一些抗衡的一些包含捍衛勞工權的一些做法\n那董事長 未來針對這樣的一個廉價還有我們這個勞工的一個權益問題 董事長有沒有什麼樣的看法 會不會再發生一個抗爭的一個事件\n謝謝委員的關心那事實上跟工會這邊我一上任以後我一直跟我們的工會保持一個非常通暢的一個協調那他們最關心的這個12項這個福利事項那我也在裡面最重要的兩點就是一個是夜點會一個是主管加擠這個部分我們已經通過董事會的這個核定那其中夜點會我們從120增加到最高400塊\n那另外我們的這個主管加級方面大概也都是加了50%以上所以這一部分的話現在已經送到董事會裡面送到這個交通部這邊來核定如果核定以後我們可以夜點會我們明年的1月1號就可以來實施那這個主管加級的話我們會今年會回溯到今年的1月1號那這樣的話我想這樣的話對工會應該有這個\n一個非常像作用的好的作用那其他的部分我們也持續在檢討董事長我想我們這個見了好幾次面我也有特別跟你提到我們這個年輕的這個同仁的一個心聲他們有些住在屏東住在高雄但是因為當時分發在東部或在北部感覺做廚跟吃飯就沒有了\n怎麼樣回家帶回家每次他們的使徒都跟我說委員你把手機都調回來好不好我說因為你們公司有調動的一個制度但是我們還是期待在招考的過程裡面真的要有要有一樣相關的配套措施啊能夠讓這些年輕人能夠願意回到我們自己的家鄉這樣子這他們都很客氣啦\n改天他帶不下去就跑去別的地方考試因為我們的基層的同仁都在缺因為都調不回來這是一個很嚴重的一個困境部長願意支持這樣的一個處理方式嗎報告委員我也相當支持因為確實台鐵要留才除了薪資以外他整體的勞動條件然後還有就是他的住宿的問題\n如果可以讓他自己在自己的家鄉當然就很好對於未來流財一定會有幫助那我也請台鐵公司我們朝這個方向來演繹看怎麼協助所有的年輕員工可以更幸福的在這個地方工作對了我們都期待大家真的能夠安居樂業這個是我們幸福企業的一個表徵那最後我想\n那個部長 針對屏東的交通建設高鐵 南延 屏東 還有我們這個訪寮大平台的計畫 甚至這個屏南快速道路 我想多次我在院會跟委員都在質詢 是 我知道部長跟我們相關的主管都很用心但是速度真的有比較慢了 是 尤其我們這個鐵路也沒有雙軌這個例如我到 到現在那個屏南快速道路還要好幾年 高鐵\n2039 我們的中北巡邏都跟我說這不是坐得到的真的聽到都心酸了部長真的你要展現你的決心均衡台灣交通建設覺得是重中之重部長能承諾加快施程嗎好 報告委員這個部分我們全力來加速有很多的交通建設都是大家所期待也是真正要均衡台灣必須要做的一個前提所以我們交通部會全力來加速那最後針對我們這個捷運這個小港到\n林編這條我想我們最近也跟高雄市政府繼續在溝通協調那目前的進程還有所謂的施工方式局長有沒有新的變化\n我想目前我們在這個月初有召開過一次會議邀請屏東縣政府跟高雄市政府來做討論我們後面會繼續來做溝通因為現在是系統跟這個高架地下還有這個石化園區上面的這個相關的這些議題要做出了 部長這是屏東第一條啦 是是 希望不要胎死腹中我很擔心 好好我們一起來努力 拜託一下 謝謝來努力 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.117 --> 00:06.368\n謝謝主席有請我們陳部長陳部長請\n\n00:15.462 --> 00:41.190\n部長早部長我想最近這個汽車市場這個瀰漫一個新的一個訊息尤其是針對目前這個台美貿易談判最近聽說這個美製的車輛進口關稅可能會降到零所以這些新購汽車新購主這個躍躍欲試不曉得部長有沒有接到這樣一個訊息報告委員交通部的部分我們是負責安全審驗的部分\n\n00:41.710 --> 00:56.462\n那至於關稅的部分那是財政部我們目前沒有接到他們任何的訊息部長認為如果這個一口氣宣佈到零的時候對整個國內這個交通的影響跟環境會不會有受到衝擊有人說這個對特斯拉看有何處\n\n00:57.423 --> 01:16.517\n部長認為呢我覺得啦應該會對於整體的車市都有蠻重大的影響車的價格或許會稍微調降一些部長那我想我們過去也一直提到這個所謂的一個運具電動化的一個目標那包含我們的電動巴士也好我們這個商用的小客車也好\n\n01:17.538 --> 01:37.097\n過去我們有提到一個商用車輛電動化跟無碳化的一個減碳旗艦行動計畫要提供這個計程車購車補助每輛最高35萬那這部分但是我們在這個明年的預算裡面並沒有看到這一項的編列那這部分會執行嗎是我請市長跟委員回答一下\n\n01:39.640 --> 02:04.596\n跟委員報告那個商用車電動化旗艦計畫是因為是由環境部在統籌來送院審查那院是在9月30號已經核給環境部了那因為9月30號大概因為來不及編115年的預算那我們現在會著手編116年的預算所以要再慢一年對對因為已經那個來不及編明年的預算\n\n02:05.373 --> 02:33.673\n不懂我想這個推動這樣低碳的一個環境也是我們努力的目標沒錯那尤其針對這個電動巴士的部分感覺上我們的進度比較慢一點電動巴士如果是市區公車的話我們這個進度還是在預期的進度上這個沒問題那我們那預算也有編列所以明年度如果有需要的話各個地方政府提出來我們都會來協助不是地方各個公司啦各個客運公司如果提出來我們都會來協助\n\n02:33.973 --> 02:58.356\n好我想這個我們應該要列為我們很重要的一個目標是沒錯部長那我想我上一次質詢有特別提到這個因為我們今年這個從九月到十月有三個這個連假嘛是那當然我知道部長也很很用心也有自己有跑到我們南部來看一下整個疏運的狀況但是最近有發生了一個高鐵這個有乘客因為這個行李的關係下不了車一個狀況\n\n02:59.457 --> 03:28.456\n那我有特別提到明年至少有九個連駕那我們在整個鐵路公路還有這個高鐵運輸的部分我們有沒有做一個比較嚴謹的一個規劃我想我們應該避免這樣一個狀況發生怎麼樣做營運跟委員報告對交通部來講我們希望各個運具的運量要均衡所以這幾年我們一直在努力說希望鼓勵大家去搭國道客運那那個都有打折甚至最低打到六折六五折\n\n03:29.076 --> 03:55.581\n那都是由交通部這邊來補助讓大家可以去搭乘不一樣的運具台鐵也很舒服那國道客運也很舒服但最近確實有觀察到很多的民眾是習慣搭高鐵那高鐵越來越擁擠的這個議題其實我們從這一兩年來我們一直在討論這個議題那最嚴重的就像委員您所提出來的高鐵上有人下不了車這個對旅客來講是蠻嚴重的事情\n\n03:56.101 --> 04:14.513\n那我們也在跟高鐵公司正在研商看什麼樣的方法例如說是不是哪一些特別會擁擠的班次我們的自由座的人數有沒有要管控因為如果你完全不管控的狀況底下大家就是把它塞到滿塞到滿就會有上不了車或下不了車的問題\n\n04:15.513 --> 04:40.818\n那這個部分我們還在討論我們幾乎每天都在坐高鐵我們都看得到因為我們現在很多國外旅客大家都大包小包啦行李非常大非常多而且都很大那尤其我們一些像板橋業或什麼這些小站的停留時間比較短那我們的工作人員如果沒有注意真的就會發生這樣下不了車的狀況對沒錯變工這個我要到台中或是哪裡的人被擠在車上所以我覺得\n\n04:41.818 --> 05:09.034\n當然這個今天高鐵是董事長沒有來未來應該是不是要檢討像董事長講的部長講的未來針對自由做的部分還是有沒有這個整個運量調整的部分有沒有怎麼樣一個分流的一個措施應該去思考一下是報告員我們這個會持續跟高鐵公司來研商確實要做人潮的分流那甚至是人潮的管控這個部分其實要去做如果我們做讓他禮拜一早上禮拜一早上跟禮拜五下班更恐怖\n\n05:09.795 --> 05:17.206\n對都會塞得很滿都會塞得很滿好這部分再麻煩我們這個部分我們來跟高鐵公司一起來那麻煩我們台鐵政董事長謝謝\n\n05:28.022 --> 05:49.157\n董事長我想我們現在台鐵公司化之後大家都寄予厚望那我知道您這個上任之後您也一直在努力調整我們這個整個一個內部的環境但是現在我們工會的部分因為這個過去也有一個類似這個跟我們公司體制裡面有一些抗衡的一些包含捍衛勞工權的一些做法\n\n05:49.938 --> 05:57.868\n那董事長未來針對這樣的一個廉價還有我們這個勞工的一個權益問題董事長有沒有什麼樣的看法會不會再發生一個抗爭的一個事件\n\n05:59.185 --> 06:26.025\n謝謝委員的關心那事實上跟工會這邊我一上任以後我一直跟我們的工會保持一個非常通暢的一個協調那他們最關心的這個12項這個福利事項那我也在裡面最重要的兩點就是一個是夜點會一個是主管加擠這個部分我們已經通過董事會的這個核定那其中夜點會我們從120增加到最高400塊\n\n06:27.506 --> 06:49.010\n那另外我們的這個主管加級方面大概也都是加了50%以上所以這一部分的話現在已經送到董事會裡面送到這個交通部這邊來核定如果核定以後我們可以夜點會我們明年的1月1號就可以來實施那這個主管加級的話我們會今年會回溯到今年的1月1號那這樣的話我想這樣的話對工會應該有這個\n\n06:52.771 --> 07:16.444\n一個非常像作用的好的作用那其他的部分我們也持續在檢討董事長我想我們這個見了好幾次面我也有特別跟你提到我們這個年輕的這個同仁的一個心聲他們有些住在屏東住在高雄但是因為當時分發在東部或在北部感覺做廚跟吃飯就沒有了\n\n07:17.344 --> 07:37.373\n怎麼樣回家帶回家每次他們的使徒都跟我說委員你把手機都調回來好不好我說因為你們公司有調動的一個制度但是我們還是期待在招考的過程裡面真的要有要有一樣相關的配套措施啊能夠讓這些年輕人能夠願意回到我們自己的家鄉這樣子這他們都很客氣啦\n\n07:40.174 --> 07:59.760\n改天他帶不下去就跑去別的地方考試因為我們的基層的同仁都在缺因為都調不回來這是一個很嚴重的一個困境部長願意支持這樣的一個處理方式嗎報告委員我也相當支持因為確實台鐵要留才除了薪資以外他整體的勞動條件然後還有就是他的住宿的問題\n\n08:00.700 --> 08:19.961\n如果可以讓他自己在自己的家鄉當然就很好對於未來流財一定會有幫助那我也請台鐵公司我們朝這個方向來演繹看怎麼協助所有的年輕員工可以更幸福的在這個地方工作對了我們都期待大家真的能夠安居樂業這個是我們幸福企業的一個表徵那最後我想\n\n08:20.862 --> 08:46.823\n那個部長針對屏東的交通建設高鐵南延屏東還有我們這個訪寮大平台的計畫甚至這個屏南快速道路我想多次我在院會跟委員都在質詢是我知道部長跟我們相關的主管都很用心但是速度真的有比較慢了是尤其我們這個鐵路也沒有雙軌這個例如我到到現在那個屏南快速道路還要好幾年高鐵\n\n08:49.225 --> 09:12.902\n2039我們的中北巡邏都跟我說這不是坐得到的真的聽到都心酸了部長真的你要展現你的決心均衡台灣交通建設覺得是重中之重部長能承諾加快施程嗎好報告委員這個部分我們全力來加速有很多的交通建設都是大家所期待也是真正要均衡台灣必須要做的一個前提所以我們交通部會全力來加速那最後針對我們這個捷運這個小港到\n\n09:17.128 --> 09:26.365\n林編這條我想我們最近也跟高雄市政府繼續在溝通協調那目前的進程還有所謂的施工方式局長有沒有新的變化\n\n09:27.698 --> 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