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00:02:08,685\n自來水這個普及化的錢那我們看到這一百萬人如果需要等於讓他們都有自來水因為自來水是最基本的民生需求吧我們一個每天繳稅的國民\n\n7\n00:02:10,948 --> 00:02:25,250\n我希望我住在台灣我可以有自來水這是最卑微的吧也是最基本的那我們看到這個統計數字如果要能夠讓這一百萬人都有其實他經費也不算高2450億部長您可以我在這裡建議您可以向賴總統向這個卓院長來反映\n\n8\n00:02:40,885 --> 00:03:04,856\n哪一個總統或哪一位部長任內我們來編列讓整個台灣全民有自來水河不能永遠就是有那麼多的人他沒有自來水河而且他用的水他們家用的水白襯衫白T恤全部洗成黃的\n\n9\n00:03:06,701 --> 00:03:25,321\n而且這個民眾沒有自來水喝他後續產生的健康的問題其實也會是國家的負擔所以這個2450億本席今天要來請命當然這個也絕對會是讓工部長您以及甚至不管卓院長或是賴總統\n\n10\n00:03:28,293 --> 00:03:47,914\n這個永垂青史啊因為台灣竟然歷經了這麼多的這個總統行政院長經濟部長沒有人重視民生最基本的自來水這個是住在台北都會區的大關門沒有辦法體會的\n\n11\n00:03:49,417 --> 00:04:07,676\n那本席這個從上一屆當立委那時候國民黨是這樣本席也強烈的呼籲那時候的行政院長他是有史以來也編列這個特別多的但是還是不夠還是不夠所以我們希望這2450億部長\n\n12\n00:04:10,458 --> 00:04:26,584\n你看是分兩年還是一年還是三年我們就讓他來完成這個絕對在台灣是一個非常非常大而且非常非常好的一件事部長可以這樣來思考嗎\n\n13\n00:04:28,042 --> 00:04:55,210\n這樣子來研議嗎我們也是盡量來做現在大概都是一期一期來這個最基本最卑微的自來水這個真的很不公平是因為的確是有一些是在非常偏遠或是山區裡面它的費用比較高您是這樣講但是我本席要跟你講很多它就在一般的市區鄉鎮市還是沒有沒有在偏遠山區你們要不要盤點一下\n\n14\n00:04:56,929 --> 00:05:23,105\n如果是市區的話我們會盡快的來處理沒有問題啊所以我們看到整體看2450億嘛那你是不是可以分兩年來編列這個特別的我們之前講的我們自來水普及化的你特別的基金嘛因為這是這個是最基本其實這些人的人權都沒有被重視啊\n\n15\n00:05:24,068 --> 00:05:40,166\n是我们是一期一期大概一百多亿一百多亿这样编也是有所以现在您可以了解如果到现在这一百万人你要能够都有自来水要多久你知道吗\n\n16\n00:05:42,192 --> 00:05:56,543\n要幾年你知道嗎照你這樣的編法要248年不知道已經投胎幾次了但是那個就是偏遠山區雖然沒有拉管道自然水但是還是有減益自然水\n\n17\n00:05:58,524 --> 00:06:07,891\n偏遠山區我們這2450億或是100萬人偏遠山區大概10萬以內你另外90萬你不可以編列嗎2450億你分3年\n\n18\n00:06:12,694 --> 00:06:35,859\n你也編列完了你分兩年你也編列完了本席真的是在這裡為這個不是只有我新竹縣全國其實中南部也非常多東部也非常多如果是人群比較聚集地的話我們會優先趕快來處理所以本席建議部長你可以大刀闊斧你就編個一千億嘛\n\n19\n00:06:37,403 --> 00:06:52,694\n一千億特別的基金你來進行特別就是針對自來水這個最基本的人權委員的這個指教我們可以跟行政院來反映一下這個絕對會獲得很大的好評你就幫這個\n\n20\n00:06:57,518 --> 00:07:22,817\n你如果說真的很偏遠人很少的當然但現在我們面臨的很多不只是這樣我相信我們召委召委台南整個台南市應該也還是有我們來盤點一下也還是有不一定在山區我們來盤點一下就是剛剛委員提到的非偏遠地方但是很需要的部分我們先把它盤點出來你們真的盤點而且不要每年這樣一點點一點點照這樣下去要兩百多年啊\n\n21\n00:07:23,678 --> 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召委台南整個台南市應該也還是有我們來盤點一下也還是有不一定在山區我們來盤點一下就是剛剛委員提到的非偏遠地方但是很需要的部分我們先把它盤點出來你們真的盤點而且不要每年這樣一點點一點點照這樣下去要兩百多年啊\n我們希望這三年這兩年我們就盡快來完成你只要預算編了就這樣來執行是加速進行好嗎不過那個時候也要考量到執行的能量對但是我們還是會盡量盡力對盡全力這個會是一項非常非常大的得證謝謝謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.089 --> 00:00.850\n謝謝主席本席有請經濟部工部長\n\n00:21.315 --> 00:47.546\n學院好部長好您擔任部長以來本席好像還沒有跟您有過質詢上的討論比較少上次業務報告總質詢上次業務報告也有今天感謝主席安排了有關電業法天然氣事業法還有自來水部分條文的法案的審查本席今天要特別針對自來水的部分\n\n00:48.766 --> 01:17.408\n自來水的部分我想請教部長您知道現在全台灣2300多萬人口還有多少人口沒有自來水可以喝您知道嗎好像100多萬是不是對沒錯上百萬百萬人沒有自來水今年是西元2025年了我們竟然還有100萬人沒有自來水喝部長這一塊本席要給您\n\n01:18.255 --> 01:30.442\n要在這裡特別的強烈的來建議我們因為看了一下我們看了一下過去的統計數字我們過去23年今年2025從2000年以來民進黨執政到目前為止已經滿16年然後歷經三個總統\n\n01:40.475 --> 01:45.761\n那國民黨執政呢2000年以來這個一位叫馬英九總統所以從過去25年以來投入了227億的這個\n\n01:54.025 --> 02:08.685\n自來水這個普及化的錢那我們看到這一百萬人如果需要等於讓他們都有自來水因為自來水是最基本的民生需求吧我們一個每天繳稅的國民\n\n02:10.948 --> 02:25.250\n我希望我住在台灣我可以有自來水這是最卑微的吧也是最基本的那我們看到這個統計數字如果要能夠讓這一百萬人都有其實他經費也不算高2450億部長您可以我在這裡建議您可以向賴總統向這個卓院長來反映\n\n02:40.885 --> 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