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00:01:04,356\n那因为我们看到这个除雨之后衍生的一个问题就是除雨的一个处理问题那在过去我们看到这个统计表是2024年的一个统计就是国内对于除雨的一个利用就是有饲料化肥料化以及能源化以及其他这几种途径那其中饲料化就是高温蒸煮后\n\n4\n00:01:04,856 --> 00:01:07,437\n來這個餵養豬隻就是佔了62.6%這個是一個非常高的一個比例所以在農業部宣布除以餵養豬隻之後這62.6%的處理我想可能就是一個非常棘手的一個問題\n\n5\n00:01:20,743 --> 00:01:37,332\n那在這個目前這樣子的一個狀況其實地方有很多熱心的民眾就有提供一些意見包括我的選區田中政公所之前的員工他就說他們的公所在2019年就在實施這個黑水盲\n\n6\n00:01:38,493 --> 00:01:59,611\n做去化除雨的方法效果也不错可是我们看到黑水盲它的比例才1.2%所以不晓得说就这个去化的途径目前如果政府要来推会有什么法律上的限制有没有可能未来在这部分来强化\n\n7\n00:02:00,763 --> 00:02:18,399\n報告委員這個黑水盲我也特別有去看過我們也認為它是未來循環經濟很好的方式因為它可以很多元的一個利用解決這個廚藝的問題所以我們政策上是鼓勵的目前我們也有一些專案的計畫在研究如何有一個更好的生態系幫助這個產業可以成長起來\n\n8\n00:02:19,266 --> 00:02:39,739\n是在法令上我們目前會有阻礙嗎有需要解決的部分嗎黑水盲它的蟲蟲吃完了之後它到底以後可不可以當成飼料去餵雞或是說黑水盲它未來可以承承永續航空用油它這個怎麼處理所以量到底多少這個會牽涉到飼料管理法的部分嗎對對對\n\n9\n00:02:41,640 --> 00:03:04,033\n我跟委員報告就是根據飼料管理法你要做肥料的話你可以當申請當肥料但是要經過申請肥料的時候你必須檢測相關的一個有沒有毒性有沒有肥效這個部分他不會因為你的來源不一樣就禁止所以這個部分會根據到黑水門本身作為肥料的利用效率那例如利用效率高的話他做肥料應該是沒問題的\n\n10\n00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:33,007\n是那這部分我們農業部會最近會有做一些積極的一個我想黑水盲其實在我們農業部其實內部已經討論非常多了那最主要是它的利用效率是不是可以能夠達到一個就是生產用的因為一定要後端有市場前端去做的時候才有效果但我想我們會跟環境部積極來做那另外跟委員補充就是飼料做廚藝的時候它不一定是直接\n\n11\n00:03:34,108 --> 00:03:59,145\n我們台灣是用直接的生廚藥去蒸煮那其實廚藥也可以先經過飼料化本身變成液體肥料或是固體肥料再給那個那個豬隻吃所以它有很多的方式那這個部分我想我們在我們的國內我們農業部的研究專案會也在做這樣的研究那我後續的這些東西我希望能夠增加更多的多元化的利用那這樣的話那個壓力才不會那麼大\n\n12\n00:04:00,256 --> 00:04:19,485\n因為基層的相信也都非常的關心所以也都提供了一些意見那他們認為說這個黑水盲的方式非常好的話我們政府應該要積極的帶頭來推動才對那我們也看到嘉義縣他們也成立了這個儲雨權循環中心利用這個黑水盲來處理這個\n\n13\n00:04:21,227 --> 00:04:34,721\n廚餘我相信這個應該是我們也可以去觀摩然後之後在農業部或者是環境部這邊可以來協助在各縣市來推動那接下來我想請問一下就是因為這次的這個\n\n14\n00:04:36,978 --> 00:05:03,181\n非洲豬瘟爆發的破口目前就是應該是推測是廚餘餵養的部分產生的嗎我想現在還沒辦法確認在疫調的過程中完整的疫調還沒有出來那說有可能因為除了廚餘以外還有包括接觸嘛就是人車的接觸或移動所以現在因為第一輪疫調看起來這個疫情就鎖在台中這個案場那相對的是一件好事\n\n15\n00:05:03,781 --> 00:05:26,815\n所以我們積極上還會趕快把這些疫調本身的一些必須釐清的東西趕快釐清我們擔心的就是說裡面還有一些盲點不知道以後變成以後的破口所以這個完整的疫調出來以後才有機會去看到這些來源第二個部分就是疫調也同時讓我們知道我們現在的體制還有哪一些必須精進的地方那我們後續也會來精進\n\n16\n00:05:27,976 --> 00:05:38,783\n是那就是對於這個廚餘的處理當然我們有一定的一個要求就是要蒸煮90度然後一個小時以上那我們看到這個案場他對廚餘的處理就是後來發現說他有好幾個月都沒有上傳這個記錄了所以對於他是不是有確實照這個標準來處理廚餘也讓人家覺得說會是一個防疫的一個破口所以昨天那個\n\n17\n00:05:56,634 --> 00:06:11,107\n我們養豬協會的那個各縣市的理事長還有這個總會的潘理事長他們有來拜會黨團他們有提出建議說廚藝有沒有可能由中央來統一爭主後來供應使用這個部分\n\n18\n00:06:11,670 --> 00:06:38,462\n我跟委員報告現在有四個縣市九個中央處理廠在申請那已經在營運的是苗栗的那個廠那基本上我們以農業部的立場來講如果這些珍珠廠是可以提供給我們的廚藝養豬戶而養豬戶也願意接受的時候我們是能夠給予支持但是有個重點就是我們在查訪的過程中也發現說大部分的廚藝養豬戶\n\n19\n00:06:40,003 --> 00:06:53,762\n都是認為自己組的最安心但是這個可能要需要溝通然後也要讓他知道中央處理廠這個這個徵組是不是能夠達到他們放心的角度這個蠻重要的所以我們想我們會來討論跟環境部一起來討論這樣的一個議題好\n\n20\n00:06:56,906 --> 00:07:17,542\n那昨天潘總會長又也提到了一個問題就是這個台中處於海這種狀況真的是令人觸目驚心潘總會長說像他這樣露天的這樣子的話如果說有鳥類去著食的話會不會又變成病菌的一個傳染的一個途徑會不會又造成是防疫的破口\n\n21\n00:07:18,263 --> 00:07:32,478\n對報告委員因為這個從這個禮拜天開始我們就注意到這個問題包含院長都很關心所以我們環境部呢從禮拜天還有昨天都有派人去現場的去視察那當然啦他們因為我們有一個堆肥的規定野脈腸的一個規定\n\n22\n00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:59,396\n他們呢很多是還沒有辦法符合他們這樣子是有符合規定的嗎有改進的空間所以他們也從善如流部長講得太含蓄了吧有改進的空間就是不合規定吧然後他們現在昨天已經兩個我們看了四個場兩個場已經開始復土了因為復土有一定的規定0.5公尺深然後再30公分的復土然後就不要讓動物跑來吃這樣台中市政府算不算帶頭違法\n\n23\n00:08:01,156 --> 00:08:27,654\n我們是希望他們可以做得更好那目前他們另外兩個像這樣的這個處於海的部分他們也承諾今天就會開始進行復讀然後未來也不會做這樣的事情會送到野脈場去是好那因為這個防疫真的就視同作戰真的每一個部分每一個環節真的都是要非常的嚴謹一對不能夠讓這就是我們一定要嚴正一帶把這個病情跟他防堵下來\n\n24\n00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,883\n謝謝兩位部長辛苦了\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6169\t14849\t謝謝主席因為時間有關係我是不是可以請農業部陳部長跟環境部彭部長一起上台有請兩位部長不好意思\n20110\t39870\t兩位部長早我們知道就是說在最近因為台中市某這個養豬場爆發了這個非洲豬瘟的疫情之後那我們也看到農業部非常迅速的就宣布了這個禁運禁宅及禁廚餘的一個政策那這部分本席對這個政策也是給予農業部肯定\n40650\t64356\t那因为我们看到这个除雨之后衍生的一个问题就是除雨的一个处理问题那在过去我们看到这个统计表是2024年的一个统计就是国内对于除雨的一个利用就是有饲料化肥料化以及能源化以及其他这几种途径那其中饲料化就是高温蒸煮后\n64856\t67437\t來這個餵養豬隻就是佔了62.6%這個是一個非常高的一個比例所以在農業部宣布除以餵養豬隻之後這62.6%的處理我想可能就是一個非常棘手的一個問題\n80743\t97332\t那在這個目前這樣子的一個狀況其實地方有很多熱心的民眾就有提供一些意見包括我的選區田中政公所之前的員工他就說他們的公所在2019年就在實施這個黑水盲\n98493\t119611\t做去化除雨的方法效果也不错可是我们看到黑水盲它的比例才1.2%所以不晓得说就这个去化的途径目前如果政府要来推会有什么法律上的限制有没有可能未来在这部分来强化\n120763\t138399\t報告委員 這個黑水盲我也特別有去看過我們也認為它是未來循環經濟很好的方式因為它可以很多元的一個利用解決這個廚藝的問題所以我們政策上是鼓勵的目前我們也有一些專案的計畫在研究如何有一個更好的生態系幫助這個產業可以成長起來\n139266\t159739\t是 在法令上我們目前會有阻礙嗎有需要解決的部分嗎黑水盲它的蟲蟲吃完了之後它到底以後可不可以當成飼料去餵雞或是說黑水盲它未來可以承承永續航空用油它這個怎麼處理所以量到底多少這個會牽涉到飼料管理法的部分嗎對對對\n161640\t184033\t我跟委員報告就是根據飼料管理法你要做肥料的話你可以當申請當肥料但是要經過申請肥料的時候你必須檢測相關的一個有沒有毒性有沒有肥效這個部分他不會因為你的來源不一樣就禁止所以這個部分會根據到黑水門本身作為肥料的利用效率那例如利用效率高的話他做肥料應該是沒問題的\n185030\t213007\t是那這部分我們農業部會最近會有做一些積極的一個我想黑水盲其實在我們農業部其實內部已經討論非常多了那最主要是它的利用效率是不是可以能夠達到一個就是生產用的因為一定要後端有市場前端去做的時候才有效果但我想我們會跟環境部積極來做那另外跟委員補充就是飼料做廚藝的時候它不一定是直接\n214108\t239145\t我們台灣是用直接的生廚藥去蒸煮那其實廚藥也可以先經過飼料化本身變成液體肥料或是固體肥料再給那個那個豬隻吃所以它有很多的方式那這個部分我想我們在我們的國內我們農業部的研究專案會也在做這樣的研究那我後續的這些東西我希望能夠增加更多的多元化的利用那這樣的話那個壓力才不會那麼大\n240256\t259485\t因為基層的相信也都非常的關心所以也都提供了一些意見那他們認為說這個黑水盲的方式非常好的話我們政府應該要積極的帶頭來推動才對那我們也看到嘉義縣他們也成立了這個儲雨權循環中心利用這個黑水盲來處理這個\n261227\t274721\t廚餘我相信這個應該是我們也可以去觀摩然後之後在農業部或者是環境部這邊可以來協助在各縣市來推動那接下來我想請問一下就是因為這次的這個\n276978\t303181\t非洲豬瘟爆發的破口目前就是應該是推測是廚餘餵養的部分產生的嗎我想現在還沒辦法確認在疫調的過程中完整的疫調還沒有出來那說有可能因為除了廚餘以外還有包括接觸嘛就是人車的接觸或移動所以現在因為第一輪疫調看起來這個疫情就鎖在台中這個案場那相對的是一件好事\n303781\t326815\t所以我們積極上還會趕快把這些疫調本身的一些必須釐清的東西趕快釐清我們擔心的就是說裡面還有一些盲點不知道以後變成以後的破口所以這個完整的疫調出來以後才有機會去看到這些來源第二個部分就是疫調也同時讓我們知道我們現在的體制還有哪一些必須精進的地方那我們後續也會來精進\n327976\t338783\t是那就是對於這個廚餘的處理當然我們有一定的一個要求就是要蒸煮90度然後一個小時以上那我們看到這個案場他對廚餘的處理就是後來發現說他有好幾個月都沒有上傳這個記錄了所以對於他是不是有確實照這個標準來處理廚餘也讓人家覺得說會是一個防疫的一個破口所以昨天那個\n356634\t371107\t我們養豬協會的那個各縣市的理事長還有這個總會的潘理事長他們有來拜會黨團他們有提出建議說廚藝有沒有可能由中央來統一爭主後來供應使用這個部分\n371670\t398462\t我跟委員報告現在有四個縣市九個中央處理廠在申請那已經在營運的是苗栗的那個廠那基本上我們以農業部的立場來講如果這些珍珠廠是可以提供給我們的廚藝養豬戶而養豬戶也願意接受的時候我們是能夠給予支持但是有個重點就是我們在查訪的過程中也發現說大部分的廚藝養豬戶\n400003\t413762\t都是認為自己組的最安心但是這個可能要需要溝通然後也要讓他知道中央處理廠這個這個徵組是不是能夠達到他們放心的角度這個蠻重要的所以我們想我們會來討論跟環境部一起來討論這樣的一個議題好\n416906\t437542\t那昨天潘總會長又也提到了一個問題就是這個台中處於海這種狀況真的是令人觸目驚心潘總會長說像他這樣露天的這樣子的話如果說有鳥類去著食的話會不會又變成病菌的一個傳染的一個途徑會不會又造成是防疫的破口\n438263\t452478\t對 報告委員因為這個從這個禮拜天開始我們就注意到這個問題包含院長都很關心所以我們環境部呢從禮拜天還有昨天都有派人去現場的去視察那當然啦 他們因為我們有一個堆肥的規定野脈腸的一個規定\n453519\t479396\t他們呢 很多是還沒有辦法符合他們這樣子是有符合規定的嗎有改進的空間 所以他們也從善如流部長講得太含蓄了吧有改進的空間就是不合規定吧然後他們現在昨天已經兩個我們看了四個場 兩個場已經開始復土了因為復土有一定的規定0.5公尺深 然後再30公分的復土然後就不要讓動物跑來吃這樣台中市政府算不算帶頭違法\n481156\t507654\t我們是希望他們可以做得更好那目前他們另外兩個像這樣的這個處於海的部分他們也承諾今天就會開始進行復讀然後未來也不會做這樣的事情會送到野脈場去是好那因為這個防疫真的就視同作戰真的每一個部分每一個環節真的都是要非常的嚴謹一對不能夠讓這就是我們一定要嚴正一帶把這個病情跟他防堵下來\n509960\t510883\t謝謝兩位部長辛苦了\n","txt":"謝謝主席因為時間有關係我是不是可以請農業部陳部長跟環境部彭部長一起上台有請兩位部長不好意思\n兩位部長早我們知道就是說在最近因為台中市某這個養豬場爆發了這個非洲豬瘟的疫情之後那我們也看到農業部非常迅速的就宣布了這個禁運禁宅及禁廚餘的一個政策那這部分本席對這個政策也是給予農業部肯定\n那因为我们看到这个除雨之后衍生的一个问题就是除雨的一个处理问题那在过去我们看到这个统计表是2024年的一个统计就是国内对于除雨的一个利用就是有饲料化肥料化以及能源化以及其他这几种途径那其中饲料化就是高温蒸煮后\n來這個餵養豬隻就是佔了62.6%這個是一個非常高的一個比例所以在農業部宣布除以餵養豬隻之後這62.6%的處理我想可能就是一個非常棘手的一個問題\n那在這個目前這樣子的一個狀況其實地方有很多熱心的民眾就有提供一些意見包括我的選區田中政公所之前的員工他就說他們的公所在2019年就在實施這個黑水盲\n做去化除雨的方法效果也不错可是我们看到黑水盲它的比例才1.2%所以不晓得说就这个去化的途径目前如果政府要来推会有什么法律上的限制有没有可能未来在这部分来强化\n報告委員 這個黑水盲我也特別有去看過我們也認為它是未來循環經濟很好的方式因為它可以很多元的一個利用解決這個廚藝的問題所以我們政策上是鼓勵的目前我們也有一些專案的計畫在研究如何有一個更好的生態系幫助這個產業可以成長起來\n是 在法令上我們目前會有阻礙嗎有需要解決的部分嗎黑水盲它的蟲蟲吃完了之後它到底以後可不可以當成飼料去餵雞或是說黑水盲它未來可以承承永續航空用油它這個怎麼處理所以量到底多少這個會牽涉到飼料管理法的部分嗎對對對\n我跟委員報告就是根據飼料管理法你要做肥料的話你可以當申請當肥料但是要經過申請肥料的時候你必須檢測相關的一個有沒有毒性有沒有肥效這個部分他不會因為你的來源不一樣就禁止所以這個部分會根據到黑水門本身作為肥料的利用效率那例如利用效率高的話他做肥料應該是沒問題的\n是那這部分我們農業部會最近會有做一些積極的一個我想黑水盲其實在我們農業部其實內部已經討論非常多了那最主要是它的利用效率是不是可以能夠達到一個就是生產用的因為一定要後端有市場前端去做的時候才有效果但我想我們會跟環境部積極來做那另外跟委員補充就是飼料做廚藝的時候它不一定是直接\n我們台灣是用直接的生廚藥去蒸煮那其實廚藥也可以先經過飼料化本身變成液體肥料或是固體肥料再給那個那個豬隻吃所以它有很多的方式那這個部分我想我們在我們的國內我們農業部的研究專案會也在做這樣的研究那我後續的這些東西我希望能夠增加更多的多元化的利用那這樣的話那個壓力才不會那麼大\n因為基層的相信也都非常的關心所以也都提供了一些意見那他們認為說這個黑水盲的方式非常好的話我們政府應該要積極的帶頭來推動才對那我們也看到嘉義縣他們也成立了這個儲雨權循環中心利用這個黑水盲來處理這個\n廚餘我相信這個應該是我們也可以去觀摩然後之後在農業部或者是環境部這邊可以來協助在各縣市來推動那接下來我想請問一下就是因為這次的這個\n非洲豬瘟爆發的破口目前就是應該是推測是廚餘餵養的部分產生的嗎我想現在還沒辦法確認在疫調的過程中完整的疫調還沒有出來那說有可能因為除了廚餘以外還有包括接觸嘛就是人車的接觸或移動所以現在因為第一輪疫調看起來這個疫情就鎖在台中這個案場那相對的是一件好事\n所以我們積極上還會趕快把這些疫調本身的一些必須釐清的東西趕快釐清我們擔心的就是說裡面還有一些盲點不知道以後變成以後的破口所以這個完整的疫調出來以後才有機會去看到這些來源第二個部分就是疫調也同時讓我們知道我們現在的體制還有哪一些必須精進的地方那我們後續也會來精進\n是那就是對於這個廚餘的處理當然我們有一定的一個要求就是要蒸煮90度然後一個小時以上那我們看到這個案場他對廚餘的處理就是後來發現說他有好幾個月都沒有上傳這個記錄了所以對於他是不是有確實照這個標準來處理廚餘也讓人家覺得說會是一個防疫的一個破口所以昨天那個\n我們養豬協會的那個各縣市的理事長還有這個總會的潘理事長他們有來拜會黨團他們有提出建議說廚藝有沒有可能由中央來統一爭主後來供應使用這個部分\n我跟委員報告現在有四個縣市九個中央處理廠在申請那已經在營運的是苗栗的那個廠那基本上我們以農業部的立場來講如果這些珍珠廠是可以提供給我們的廚藝養豬戶而養豬戶也願意接受的時候我們是能夠給予支持但是有個重點就是我們在查訪的過程中也發現說大部分的廚藝養豬戶\n都是認為自己組的最安心但是這個可能要需要溝通然後也要讓他知道中央處理廠這個這個徵組是不是能夠達到他們放心的角度這個蠻重要的所以我們想我們會來討論跟環境部一起來討論這樣的一個議題好\n那昨天潘總會長又也提到了一個問題就是這個台中處於海這種狀況真的是令人觸目驚心潘總會長說像他這樣露天的這樣子的話如果說有鳥類去著食的話會不會又變成病菌的一個傳染的一個途徑會不會又造成是防疫的破口\n對 報告委員因為這個從這個禮拜天開始我們就注意到這個問題包含院長都很關心所以我們環境部呢從禮拜天還有昨天都有派人去現場的去視察那當然啦 他們因為我們有一個堆肥的規定野脈腸的一個規定\n他們呢 很多是還沒有辦法符合他們這樣子是有符合規定的嗎有改進的空間 所以他們也從善如流部長講得太含蓄了吧有改進的空間就是不合規定吧然後他們現在昨天已經兩個我們看了四個場 兩個場已經開始復土了因為復土有一定的規定0.5公尺深 然後再30公分的復土然後就不要讓動物跑來吃這樣台中市政府算不算帶頭違法\n我們是希望他們可以做得更好那目前他們另外兩個像這樣的這個處於海的部分他們也承諾今天就會開始進行復讀然後未來也不會做這樣的事情會送到野脈場去是好那因為這個防疫真的就視同作戰真的每一個部分每一個環節真的都是要非常的嚴謹一對不能夠讓這就是我們一定要嚴正一帶把這個病情跟他防堵下來\n謝謝兩位部長辛苦了\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.169 --> 00:14.849\n謝謝主席因為時間有關係我是不是可以請農業部陳部長跟環境部彭部長一起上台有請兩位部長不好意思\n\n00:20.110 --> 00:39.870\n兩位部長早我們知道就是說在最近因為台中市某這個養豬場爆發了這個非洲豬瘟的疫情之後那我們也看到農業部非常迅速的就宣布了這個禁運禁宅及禁廚餘的一個政策那這部分本席對這個政策也是給予農業部肯定\n\n00:40.650 --> 01:04.356\n那因为我们看到这个除雨之后衍生的一个问题就是除雨的一个处理问题那在过去我们看到这个统计表是2024年的一个统计就是国内对于除雨的一个利用就是有饲料化肥料化以及能源化以及其他这几种途径那其中饲料化就是高温蒸煮后\n\n01:04.856 --> 01:07.437\n來這個餵養豬隻就是佔了62.6%這個是一個非常高的一個比例所以在農業部宣布除以餵養豬隻之後這62.6%的處理我想可能就是一個非常棘手的一個問題\n\n01:20.743 --> 01:37.332\n那在這個目前這樣子的一個狀況其實地方有很多熱心的民眾就有提供一些意見包括我的選區田中政公所之前的員工他就說他們的公所在2019年就在實施這個黑水盲\n\n01:38.493 --> 01:59.611\n做去化除雨的方法效果也不错可是我们看到黑水盲它的比例才1.2%所以不晓得说就这个去化的途径目前如果政府要来推会有什么法律上的限制有没有可能未来在这部分来强化\n\n02:00.763 --> 02:18.399\n報告委員這個黑水盲我也特別有去看過我們也認為它是未來循環經濟很好的方式因為它可以很多元的一個利用解決這個廚藝的問題所以我們政策上是鼓勵的目前我們也有一些專案的計畫在研究如何有一個更好的生態系幫助這個產業可以成長起來\n\n02:19.266 --> 02:39.739\n是在法令上我們目前會有阻礙嗎有需要解決的部分嗎黑水盲它的蟲蟲吃完了之後它到底以後可不可以當成飼料去餵雞或是說黑水盲它未來可以承承永續航空用油它這個怎麼處理所以量到底多少這個會牽涉到飼料管理法的部分嗎對對對\n\n02:41.640 --> 03:04.033\n我跟委員報告就是根據飼料管理法你要做肥料的話你可以當申請當肥料但是要經過申請肥料的時候你必須檢測相關的一個有沒有毒性有沒有肥效這個部分他不會因為你的來源不一樣就禁止所以這個部分會根據到黑水門本身作為肥料的利用效率那例如利用效率高的話他做肥料應該是沒問題的\n\n03:05.030 --> 03:33.007\n是那這部分我們農業部會最近會有做一些積極的一個我想黑水盲其實在我們農業部其實內部已經討論非常多了那最主要是它的利用效率是不是可以能夠達到一個就是生產用的因為一定要後端有市場前端去做的時候才有效果但我想我們會跟環境部積極來做那另外跟委員補充就是飼料做廚藝的時候它不一定是直接\n\n03:34.108 --> 03:59.145\n我們台灣是用直接的生廚藥去蒸煮那其實廚藥也可以先經過飼料化本身變成液體肥料或是固體肥料再給那個那個豬隻吃所以它有很多的方式那這個部分我想我們在我們的國內我們農業部的研究專案會也在做這樣的研究那我後續的這些東西我希望能夠增加更多的多元化的利用那這樣的話那個壓力才不會那麼大\n\n04:00.256 --> 04:19.485\n因為基層的相信也都非常的關心所以也都提供了一些意見那他們認為說這個黑水盲的方式非常好的話我們政府應該要積極的帶頭來推動才對那我們也看到嘉義縣他們也成立了這個儲雨權循環中心利用這個黑水盲來處理這個\n\n04:21.227 --> 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人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」\n案、(十六)委員王育敏等19人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(十七)委員王育敏\n等25人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(十八)委員郭國文等17人擬具「職業安全\n衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(十九)委員王鴻薇等19人擬具「職業安全衛生法第四條條文修正\n草案」案、(二十)委員郭昱晴等17人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(二十一)委\n員羅廷瑋等18人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案；三、審查(一)委員王正旭等23人\n擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(二)委員吳沛憶等19人擬具「職業安全衛生法部\n分條文修正草案」案、(三)委員莊瑞雄等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法第九條條文修正草案」案、\n(四)委員林月琴等21人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(五)委員林淑芬等21人擬\n具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(六)委員邱鎮軍等22人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分\n條文修正草案」案、(七)委員徐富癸等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(八)\n委員黃捷等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(九)委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「職\n業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案、(十)委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修\n正草案」案【逐條討論】","agenda_id":"1149002_00001"}}}