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00:01:34,730\n農業部的我們的陳部長也自己也說說如果這次的病毒確定是非洲豬瘟的話必定是由境外傳入必定是由境外傳入這代表中央觀點非常清楚非洲豬瘟入侵的源頭不是在台中嘛它也不是在哪一個特定的縣市這是外面傳去的我想這個大家都很清楚我想今天除了要探討這個處於養豬啦豬場管理啦豬隻檢驗啦\n\n5\n00:01:36,892 --> 00:01:58,449\n最重要就是追本溯源就是從源頭的邊境檢疫還有查氣的制度來做好這個管控不要讓非洲豬瘟再進到我們國內我想這才是真正的要防堵豬瘟的這個關鍵因為你但邊境出現破口病毒如果傳進來國內之後你再多的疫調都是亡羊補狼那我想為了\n\n6\n00:01:59,927 --> 00:02:27,970\n這個防堵非洲豬瘟的疫情我相信本而且相信地方政府絕對會全力配合中央也絕對願意提自主提高這個檢驗標準不過我們從這一次的這個豬瘟的這個入侵的事件來看中央邊際的檢驗標準還有查緝制度已經產生了破口那本席放在今天各部會的報告裡面都是滿滿都是強調績效如果說真的像我們政府說的這麼好那其他病毒還要照進來我想這個我們大家好好思考一下那也要呼籲各部會\n\n7\n00:02:29,251 --> 00:02:57,287\n問題都發生的我們不該報喜不報憂我們正視這個缺失怎麼樣來落實來檢討改善它才會避免再次發生這樣問題我想這個今天排這個議程最重要的目的我想這邊本席向也提出三個建議來請部委來演繹第一個就是強化入境的檢疫第二個就是杜絕肉品透過包裹入境第三個就是提高保護者我想這三個東西很多委員都有提到這部分也請\n\n8\n00:02:58,346 --> 00:03:15,337\n我們將不會來研討這樣的問題來討論那也在兩個禮拜內提供本席一個報告來具體說明那我想這邊我最後我想最後我要利用點時間來請教安徽主委\n\n9\n00:03:22,805 --> 00:03:51,924\n是專委好好主委好所以本席今天還有另外安排就是海岸巡訪的這個審查我想我們防疫的部分先告一個段落我們現在討論這個部分就是我們希望提升第一線海巡人員執行的這個配備保護第一線人員的安全不過本席要趁這個機會來跟我們海巡人員來傳達一些心聲就是有基層的員警來跟我們反映說海巡署艦隊分署的這個警詞跟文詞有同工不同酬的這個問題\n\n10\n00:03:53,105 --> 00:04:08,460\n那目前我们的舰队分属的这个请问人员分为警职就是水上警察部分还有文职就是海岸巡护的这个两类那真是在海上执行的时候承担的风险跟执行的这个请问的内容他所需要的技能虽然都相容但是\n\n11\n00:04:09,361 --> 00:04:37,777\n他的權益有非常大的落差像是這個危檢職務家級還有危老人員的這個認定上面都可能造成你每個月的津貼以及我們這個退休替代率有很大的落差那據本期了解海巡非常的特殊他是有軍警跟文三個不同的屬性在一起的這個單位也是因為這樣你如何確保同樣是第一線的人員之間的權益的平衡\n\n12\n00:04:39,278 --> 00:05:05,466\n那這個是我想還是這個是也避免影響世襲的關鍵那在這裡也要請主委得以了解說我們做一個全面性的來檢討來盤點就是針對我們相關人員執勤的這個內容還有待遇上是不是有不合理甚至明顯有同工不同酬的地方如果是比較有的部分請主管機關研議提升第一線人員的這個相關的待遇跟福利以確保他的公平性也能夠增加我們\n\n13\n00:05:06,586 --> 00:05:35,072\n海巡署裡面的這個士氣那也請主委在一樣在會後兩週內給我一份報告來說好的非常感謝昭偉的關心昭偉真的非常深入的了解軍警文在一體的海巡署面對的這個同工不同酬的問題但是也跟昭偉報告我的報告會很快的在兩個禮拜以內給昭偉但是呢每一種身份的人包括他們退休的制度也不一樣\n\n14\n00:05:35,672 --> 00:05:54,851\n各種家籍的狀況也都不一樣那我們是讓總體而言可以彌平這個同工不同酬的狀態但是譬如說文職的同仁他有加班費但是君子的同仁他就不以加班費來支給他就以其他的家籍來支給所以這個部分我們都容易在爭取\n\n15\n00:05:58,795 --> 00:06:04,797\n包括退休也是不一樣的制度像現在警察的退休有三度通過的法令下去的時候落差會變得更大所以請主委再所以這個本席再次提到就是說請主委我們都一直在努力的在彌平\n\n16\n00:06:24,125 --> 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