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00:02:20,858\n調查清楚對外說明該怎麼處理就怎麼處理這個到底你們所了解我說今天已經星期四了到底有沒有違反相關的規定\n\n8\n00:02:22,927 --> 00:02:38,438\n我想這個是主要是我剛才可能要再重複一遍我知道你們在講的就是那個規定裡面就是處理程序裡面它是有一個第四條第十一款吧就是它是董事會決議對不對那基本上它可以說董事會還沒有決議價格還沒有確定在董事會還沒有決議之前所以我可以不需要來發布重訊\n\n9\n00:02:51,207 --> 00:03:16,155\n但是这个事情为什么我特别提到外资大卖为什么外资大卖外资在廉价之前事实上都是买钞连续三天买钞外资大卖其中的一个原因就是这个有没有违反公司治理不够透明不够透明的问题如果按照他没有违反相关的公告程序的话\n\n10\n00:03:16,835 --> 00:03:32,377\n那它不是公司治理的问题这就是你们金融监理的问题你们怎么会让它混乱到这样的程度好我再来看过去其实我们在尤其金融市场的并购是非常普遍的事情\n\n11\n00:03:33,098 --> 00:03:52,249\n但是过去确实要不要发重训我也看不出你们到底是什么样的标准好比如说这个是这个当时星光金跟台新金他们先发重训因为他们董事会决议两边要一起研究还要不要合并结果呢你们各罚十万块\n\n12\n00:03:53,309 --> 00:04:18,369\n所以我就不懂了这样子他们比较早发重讯就被罚十万块过去中信金跟京城银行的也是媒体传出要并购然后盘前没有发重讯然后你们今晚会好像最后也不了了之所以这个事件凸显的是什么凸显就是在并购的过程里面\n\n13\n00:04:19,410 --> 00:04:35,522\n顯然你們那個的法定的程序現在是混亂的現在是混亂不然怎麼會有這麼多爭議呢不是跟委員報告就像委員舉這兩個例子裡面因為他們自己專業的判斷就是因為我們現在重訓本來就很多要涉及到他們專業的判斷\n\n14\n00:04:37,179 --> 00:05:03,110\n所以你留給他們一個很大的專業判斷空間然後股價大跌外資大賣然後股民受損失都可以歸咎不過你還沒有歸咎歸之於這些金控他們的專業判斷那請問一下我們金融監理的尺度在哪裡我們的原則在哪裡我們對於散戶的保護在哪裡外資大賣兩天18萬張\n\n15\n00:05:05,831 --> 00:05:21,805\n你現在別雲淡風輕尊重他們的專業判斷委員我沒有雲淡風輕我只是跟您解釋一下我希望這個事件你們一定要給市場一個交代這麼多的國民所以我們請那交易所趕快查明對外說明對不起主席讓我再一點事先我再找一下那個央行的副總裁好嗎一個問題而已請王委員把握時間好會\n\n16\n00:05:35,595 --> 00:05:45,053\n副總裁那我們今天談到的是虛擬貨幣剛才講美國現在強力推行穩定幣這是川普他大力推行\n\n17\n00:05:45,888 --> 00:06:13,052\n那其中為什麼要大力推行呢美國穩定幣他的準備是1比1美元資產所以他現在變成美國國債的好幫手那美國就希望他國債不要滯銷嘛對不對好所以他現在呢他的準備是1比1讓他呢大家對他比較安心那我看到你們報告你們也認為他發行要有準備那請問一下我們會不會也傾向於像美國一樣\n\n18\n00:06:13,732 --> 00:06:34,772\n如果你是新台幣來做這個計價的話他應該也是用1比1的來做準備是我們在報告裡面有提到這一點你們報告沒有1比1我們講穩定幣跟法幣1比1的報告所以未來我們也是比照美元計價的穩定幣是1比1但是這個問題來了美國國債一大堆\n\n19\n00:06:39,656 --> 00:06:48,822\n他恨不得趕快發行多一點消耗他的國債但是我們相對我們新台幣資產未必有這麼多我覺得這是後續他可能會衍生的問題因為我覺得這個問題蠻重要的就是我們也是以一比一來做這個未來的穩定幣發行的準備謝謝王委員接下來我們請侯孟楷委員侯孟楷委員侯孟楷委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n449\t22534\t请碰诸位诸位,这个星期在市场热议的一件事情就是玉山金并购了三商人寿那这里面呢,就是有关于它的重信发布那其中,中信金本来也要出价它在廉价之前发布重讯\n23354\t49312\t而玉山金跟山商人壽是到廉價之後也就禮拜一的晚上才發布重訊但是星期一山商人壽它的股價就已經暴跌而且值得重視的是是外資大賣玉山金這件事情當然在整個的金融跟證券市場就得到非常多的討論\n50393\t69240\t也就是说为什么中信金可以提前四天发布重讯但是呢玉山金山上人寿竟然是一个是27号公告一个是28号都是在晚间凌晨的时候公告那当然这个很多我看到媒体也都会有追\n70100\t88902\t金管會的態度我想請問一下金管會到目前為止對這個事件你們的態度是什麼是中信金發的不對還是玉山金跟山上人壽有違反這個重訓發布的相關的公告的規定然後要不要允許處分\n89636\t110206\t好我想跟委員說明跟報告剛剛已經有多位委員詢問相同的問題我也再重述一遍剛剛您提到有一家公司他在星期四發因為他開了董事會他們自己判斷按照重訊發布的規則他就發了重訊那其實我剛剛也再三說明了這個是他們在上市會公司跟\n111346\t131379\t交易所之間他們的一個契約行為這由交易所來處理那媒體很關心以後呢我們也請期局 請交易所趕快去了解我想交易所也提醒了他們今天已經是星期四了所以剛才有講過局長也承諾說這部分他會我們已經責成交易所趕快把它說明清楚對外\n132300\t140858\t調查清楚對外說明該怎麼處理就怎麼處理這個到底你們所了解我說今天已經星期四了到底有沒有違反相關的規定\n142927\t158438\t我想這個是主要是我剛才可能要再重複一遍我知道你們在講的就是那個規定裡面就是處理程序裡面它是有一個第四條第十一款吧就是它是董事會決議對不對那基本上它可以說董事會還沒有決議價格還沒有確定在董事會還沒有決議之前所以我可以不需要來發布重訊\n171207\t196155\t但是这个事情为什么我特别提到外资大卖为什么外资大卖外资在廉价之前事实上都是买钞连续三天买钞外资大卖其中的一个原因就是这个有没有违反公司治理不够透明不够透明的问题如果按照他没有违反相关的公告程序的话\n196835\t212377\t那它不是公司治理的问题这就是你们金融监理的问题你们怎么会让它混乱到这样的程度好 我再来看过去其实我们在尤其金融市场的并购是非常普遍的事情\n213098\t232249\t但是过去确实要不要发重训我也看不出你们到底是什么样的标准好比如说这个是这个当时星光金跟台新金他们先发重训因为他们董事会决议两边要一起研究还要不要合并结果呢你们各罚十万块\n233309\t258369\t所以我就不懂了这样子他们比较早发重讯就被罚十万块过去中信金跟京城银行的也是媒体传出要并购然后盘前没有发重讯然后你们今晚会好像最后也不了了之所以这个事件凸显的是什么凸显就是在并购的过程里面\n259410\t275522\t顯然你們那個的法定的程序現在是混亂的現在是混亂不然怎麼會有這麼多爭議呢不是 跟委員報告就像委員舉這兩個例子裡面因為他們自己專業的判斷就是因為我們現在重訓本來就很多要涉及到他們專業的判斷\n277179\t303110\t所以你留給他們一個很大的專業判斷空間然後股價大跌 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我們在報告裡面有提到這一點你們報告沒有1比1我們講穩定幣跟法幣1比1的報告所以未來我們也是比照美元計價的穩定幣是1比1但是這個問題來了美國國債一大堆\n399656\t408822\t他恨不得趕快發行多一點消耗他的國債但是我們相對我們新台幣資產未必有這麼多我覺得這是後續他可能會衍生的問題因為我覺得這個問題蠻重要的就是我們也是以一比一來做這個未來的穩定幣發行的準備謝謝王委員接下來我們請侯孟楷委員侯孟楷委員侯孟楷委員\n","txt":"请碰诸位诸位,这个星期在市场热议的一件事情就是玉山金并购了三商人寿那这里面呢,就是有关于它的重信发布那其中,中信金本来也要出价它在廉价之前发布重讯\n而玉山金跟山商人壽是到廉價之後也就禮拜一的晚上才發布重訊但是星期一山商人壽它的股價就已經暴跌而且值得重視的是是外資大賣玉山金這件事情當然在整個的金融跟證券市場就得到非常多的討論\n也就是说为什么中信金可以提前四天发布重讯但是呢玉山金山上人寿竟然是一个是27号公告一个是28号都是在晚间凌晨的时候公告那当然这个很多我看到媒体也都会有追\n金管會的態度我想請問一下金管會到目前為止對這個事件你們的態度是什麼是中信金發的不對還是玉山金跟山上人壽有違反這個重訓發布的相關的公告的規定然後要不要允許處分\n好我想跟委員說明跟報告剛剛已經有多位委員詢問相同的問題我也再重述一遍剛剛您提到有一家公司他在星期四發因為他開了董事會他們自己判斷按照重訊發布的規則他就發了重訊那其實我剛剛也再三說明了這個是他們在上市會公司跟\n交易所之間他們的一個契約行為這由交易所來處理那媒體很關心以後呢我們也請期局 請交易所趕快去了解我想交易所也提醒了他們今天已經是星期四了所以剛才有講過局長也承諾說這部分他會我們已經責成交易所趕快把它說明清楚對外\n調查清楚對外說明該怎麼處理就怎麼處理這個到底你們所了解我說今天已經星期四了到底有沒有違反相關的規定\n我想這個是主要是我剛才可能要再重複一遍我知道你們在講的就是那個規定裡面就是處理程序裡面它是有一個第四條第十一款吧就是它是董事會決議對不對那基本上它可以說董事會還沒有決議價格還沒有確定在董事會還沒有決議之前所以我可以不需要來發布重訊\n但是这个事情为什么我特别提到外资大卖为什么外资大卖外资在廉价之前事实上都是买钞连续三天买钞外资大卖其中的一个原因就是这个有没有违反公司治理不够透明不够透明的问题如果按照他没有违反相关的公告程序的话\n那它不是公司治理的问题这就是你们金融监理的问题你们怎么会让它混乱到这样的程度好 我再来看过去其实我们在尤其金融市场的并购是非常普遍的事情\n但是过去确实要不要发重训我也看不出你们到底是什么样的标准好比如说这个是这个当时星光金跟台新金他们先发重训因为他们董事会决议两边要一起研究还要不要合并结果呢你们各罚十万块\n所以我就不懂了这样子他们比较早发重讯就被罚十万块过去中信金跟京城银行的也是媒体传出要并购然后盘前没有发重讯然后你们今晚会好像最后也不了了之所以这个事件凸显的是什么凸显就是在并购的过程里面\n顯然你們那個的法定的程序現在是混亂的現在是混亂不然怎麼會有這麼多爭議呢不是 跟委員報告就像委員舉這兩個例子裡面因為他們自己專業的判斷就是因為我們現在重訓本來就很多要涉及到他們專業的判斷\n所以你留給他們一個很大的專業判斷空間然後股價大跌 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01:28.902\n金管會的態度我想請問一下金管會到目前為止對這個事件你們的態度是什麼是中信金發的不對還是玉山金跟山上人壽有違反這個重訓發布的相關的公告的規定然後要不要允許處分\n\n01:29.636 --> 01:50.206\n好我想跟委員說明跟報告剛剛已經有多位委員詢問相同的問題我也再重述一遍剛剛您提到有一家公司他在星期四發因為他開了董事會他們自己判斷按照重訊發布的規則他就發了重訊那其實我剛剛也再三說明了這個是他們在上市會公司跟\n\n01:51.346 --> 02:11.379\n交易所之間他們的一個契約行為這由交易所來處理那媒體很關心以後呢我們也請期局請交易所趕快去了解我想交易所也提醒了他們今天已經是星期四了所以剛才有講過局長也承諾說這部分他會我們已經責成交易所趕快把它說明清楚對外\n\n02:12.300 --> 02:20.858\n調查清楚對外說明該怎麼處理就怎麼處理這個到底你們所了解我說今天已經星期四了到底有沒有違反相關的規定\n\n02:22.927 --> 02:38.438\n我想這個是主要是我剛才可能要再重複一遍我知道你們在講的就是那個規定裡面就是處理程序裡面它是有一個第四條第十一款吧就是它是董事會決議對不對那基本上它可以說董事會還沒有決議價格還沒有確定在董事會還沒有決議之前所以我可以不需要來發布重訊\n\n02:51.207 --> 03:16.155\n但是这个事情为什么我特别提到外资大卖为什么外资大卖外资在廉价之前事实上都是买钞连续三天买钞外资大卖其中的一个原因就是这个有没有违反公司治理不够透明不够透明的问题如果按照他没有违反相关的公告程序的话\n\n03:16.835 --> 03:32.377\n那它不是公司治理的问题这就是你们金融监理的问题你们怎么会让它混乱到这样的程度好我再来看过去其实我们在尤其金融市场的并购是非常普遍的事情\n\n03:33.098 --> 03:52.249\n但是过去确实要不要发重训我也看不出你们到底是什么样的标准好比如说这个是这个当时星光金跟台新金他们先发重训因为他们董事会决议两边要一起研究还要不要合并结果呢你们各罚十万块\n\n03:53.309 --> 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