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00:00:32,368\n市長副市長早我想我們交通部在2021年提出的臺灣觀光邁向2025年的一個方案那今年剛好已經屆滿5年那當然目前看起來有一些KPI去年有達標但是有些距離目標還很遠那不曉得我們交通部針對這樣的一個狀況\n\n3\n00:00:34,530 --> 00:00:59,703\n不管是這個國旅也好還有國外的旅客這個來台的觀光人次也好我想剛剛也許多的委員都在提到這個部分那原本我們國旅的部分這個2025年旅遊的人次是看1100萬消費金額是4100億但是距離還有點很遠不曉得我們交通部跟我們觀光署針對這個未來努力的目標是不是有在做調整跟修正\n\n4\n00:01:03,256 --> 00:01:24,096\n報告委員我們後五年的目標是希望以提升值我想因為我們台灣的關係它承載量是有一定的上限如果在目前很多在討論所謂的過度觀光的部分所以我們現階段的部分是希望提供來來的部分可以讓我們的當地這些旅遊所以我們有奠定未來五年的目標了嗎\n\n5\n00:01:25,298 --> 00:01:33,577\n我們希望就是把那個2030的部分有一個兆元產業包括就是國旅跟國際旅客的部分\n\n6\n00:01:34,605 --> 00:02:00,968\n好我想現在不是只有交通部跟觀光署的官員頭痛我們第一線的觀光的從業人員大家壓力也很大尤其我們這個屏東我們過去很多的年輕人懷抱的理想到屏東這個投入這個觀光產業有的甚至去開民宿現在都很慘了這個客源也少然後營運上貸款的壓力也很大那我想不管是\n\n7\n00:02:02,530 --> 00:02:31,489\n從這個整體的經濟名也好我們當然我們先知道臺灣的經濟這個發展非常的好但是我們期待這樣觀光產業一個帶段能夠讓更多的這個觀光的元素能夠增加那所以觀光署目前為了吸引國際觀光客也規劃了很多的方案包含這個消費金的抽獎交通票券來臺機票甚至一些套裝行程的優惠那不曉得觀光署有沒有針對這部分有沒有明定我們大概的這個行銷策略的效應在哪裡\n\n8\n00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:55,735\n那個部分是我們會有兩個一個是試用全球一個車的一個各市場的部分會依據各市場的旅客需求去做一個變化我想各個市場有滾動檢討嗎對那因為有些行銷的部分我們可能要去做市場的試驗如果是效益好我們再加嘛效益不好的部分我們可能會來檢討我們的做法再做一個滾動式的一個調整\n\n9\n00:02:56,772 --> 00:03:12,493\n好那不過我還是要提醒就是有一個我們因為觀光署每年會針對國內一些這個國際旅客來臺灣熱門的景點的一個排行那比如說像是目前我們看到的臺北101西門町甚至九份我想\n\n10\n00:03:13,474 --> 00:03:33,388\n根據這個目前的這個觀光前瞻觀光政策研究室的統計六都的旅遊人士大為增加因為六都的財源比較好他們比較有辦活動演唱會這個觀光的這個活動也很多所以佔比已經高達72.5%非六都只吸引到27.5%的國際旅客\n\n11\n00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:44,703\n那我想這個之前我們的署長也提到說要用三年的計畫來推動北回之巔振興南部的觀光客我想這個目前不曉得這個計畫的進度進度到哪裡\n\n12\n00:03:48,673 --> 00:04:11,511\n報委員相關計畫部分我們目前提到願帶願核定我們也相關準備工作已經同時展開這部分有一個政策是希望就是說不要讓遊客集中在大台北都要分流可以做一個分流有關的部分就是可能相關的南部這些景點優化跟行程的串聯我想我們後續展開的部分會持續去推動\n\n13\n00:04:13,004 --> 00:04:39,437\n不過這個這個次長跟副處長我還是要提醒我過去很多次也在委員會甚至院會提到像我們屏東來講我們過去最吃虧就是交通問題我這個次長以前在民調局知道嗎我們現在沒有飛機啦高鐵也沒有到屏東啦鐵路也沒有雙軌化我們怎麼辦對我們來講國外旅客到坐飛機到桃園他要搭高鐵來就一天而已\n\n14\n00:04:41,011 --> 00:05:01,422\n對我們來講真的是在旅遊規劃上面很吃虧所耗費的成本也很高未來我想針對這樣一個狀況我們還是要期待交通部優先處理我們的交通問題那甚至我想我們現在許多的部會都在推觀光包含像屏東來講我們有原民有客家有農村有漁村也有市區\n\n15\n00:05:02,242 --> 00:05:19,105\n那我們許多的部會會針對不一樣的這個他們各自的業務當然去發展但是我們很擔心一方面疊床加屋一方面沒有整合1加1大於2的力道那這部分觀光署身為一個觀光主管機關是不是有期待做這樣一個部會的一個整合\n\n16\n00:05:22,197 --> 00:05:37,275\n報告委員我先說明一下目前在行政院有一個觀光諮詢委員會議這個會議的主要目的就是把各個部會跟觀光有關的都整合在一起上一次會議前幾個禮拜才剛開過\n\n17\n00:05:38,776 --> 00:05:58,750\n主席跟我們都要求譬如說相關的部分像原民會文化部這個國家公園署等等這些單位他如果有大型活動或是有一些計畫型的活動應該要提前兩次會議前要把他的資訊放到我們的平台上讓觀光署做統一的宣傳包含國內跟國外\n\n18\n00:05:59,410 --> 00:06:15,238\n在平台上來處理這是你們在會議上你們比較官方的一個處理方式但就我們地方來看我倒覺得很可惜我們一直要強調中央跟地方縣市政府合作的一個機制像以肯尼來講觀光署也可以管得到\n\n19\n00:06:16,463 --> 00:06:34,241\n國家公益署可以管得到但是國家公益署他只顧生態他不一定重視觀光那觀光署我也跟署長提過了觀光署是要重觀光所以我們期待我們的部會應該優先去做整併然後再結合屏東縣政府我們怎麼樣把一個活動能夠把地方\n\n20\n00:06:34,781 --> 00:06:57,227\n包含我們一些社團也好把一些這個我們的民宿業者或是旅館業者也好應該整合起來讓我們的所謂的一個面向可以點線面把它拉大我不曉得次長有沒有考慮到這些的問題今天觀光署的專案報告裡面有特別講到一個重點以往是18個觀光圈那我們這一次是整合成北中南東加3個離島\n\n21\n00:06:58,607 --> 00:07:20,945\n那所以他最主要的目的就是說我剛剛報告把中央部會的整合完以後再跟地方的做整合把他的特色跟亮點還有區域性的疫情市長這個講很久了現在還在講整合我們會不會太慢這個是一直在做的工作啦那我剛剛報告研訓院裡面有一個是這個促進產業發展他裡面大概就要協助這些把他的特色找出來\n\n22\n00:07:21,585 --> 00:07:36,403\n我我是一直期待啦這個交通部跟觀光署不能只是固步自封啦我真的覺得我也跟署長提過了我約個時間讓他去聽一聽我們年輕觀光業者的一些心聲他們在觀光這個行業裡面\n\n23\n00:07:37,364 --> 00:08:04,251\n招諷的一個困境不只是有觀光署的問題包含像國家公園署裡面的問題也很多我想這個應該要怎麼樣讓這些年輕人他們這麼有勇氣願意投入這個行業但是我們怎麼樣去協助他們讓他們能夠在這條路上行得更順遂行得更好我想這是他們有很多的創意跟想法讓他們能夠發揮更好的創意吸引更多的國內遊客來參觀那我想另外最後一個那個次長\n\n24\n00:08:05,351 --> 00:08:21,380\n我一直也提到我們恆春這個五里亭機場的問題那當然我們也感謝民航局針對這個最近辦那個一個陸海空的一個3D的嘉年華活動吸引了非常多的人潮但是我們不是只是要辦機場活化的一個活動\n\n25\n00:08:21,980 --> 00:08:39,417\n我們還是期待這個能夠飛機能夠包機能夠重新從桃園也好松山也好能夠飛到我們的武里亭這個對國外的旅客也好甚至北部的旅客也好節省非常多的時間我想這也是讓杭州武里亭機場可以火化很重要的一個契機\n\n26\n00:08:41,258 --> 00:08:56,066\n這部分你能不能願意協助這個部分這個我們觀光署會來處理我們現在有包機補助方案那以往是國際包機這次好像也有談到國內包機的部分我想國內國際已經講很久了都沒起來國內是不是可以現在啟動應該是華信航空吧\n\n27\n00:09:02,549 --> 00:09:26,646\n華信航空我們有找他來那最近應該會去拜訪周縣長包含署長跟民安局長我們都會去拜訪周縣長跟他討論細節市長不要只是拜訪啦真的要落實把這個案子能夠把它促成我們希望能夠有更多這個北部的遊客能夠藉由這樣一個便捷的一個這個包機的一個業務能夠很快速到達我們的恆春目前就是請華信積極來處理包機\n\n28\n00:09:28,668 --> 00:09:31,558\n好這部分期待趕快能夠有一個新的進步是謝謝委員好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2334\t6766\t謝謝主席 邀請我們林長次還有觀光署我們的黃國淑長上請 副市長請\n13047\t32368\t市長 副市長早我想我們交通部在2021年提出的臺灣觀光邁向2025年的一個方案那今年剛好已經屆滿5年那當然目前看起來有一些KPI去年有達標但是有些距離目標還很遠那不曉得我們交通部針對這樣的一個狀況\n34530\t59703\t不管是這個國旅也好 還有國外的旅客這個來台的觀光人次也好我想剛剛也許多的委員都在提到這個部分那原本我們國旅的部分這個2025年旅遊的人次是看1100萬消費金額是4100億但是距離還有點很遠不曉得我們交通部跟我們觀光署針對這個未來努力的目標是不是有在做調整跟修正\n63256\t84096\t報告委員我們後五年的目標是希望以提升值我想因為我們台灣的關係它承載量是有一定的上限如果在目前很多在討論所謂的過度觀光的部分所以我們現階段的部分是希望提供來來的部分可以讓我們的當地這些旅遊所以我們有奠定未來五年的目標了嗎\n85298\t93577\t我們希望就是把那個2030的部分有一個兆元產業包括就是國旅跟國際旅客的部分\n94605\t120968\t好 我想現在不是只有交通部跟觀光署的官員頭痛我們第一線的觀光的從業人員大家壓力也很大尤其我們這個屏東我們過去很多的年輕人懷抱的理想到屏東這個投入這個觀光產業有的甚至去開民宿現在都很慘了這個客源也少然後營運上貸款的壓力也很大那我想不管是\n122530\t151489\t從這個整體的經濟名也好我們當然我們先知道臺灣的經濟這個發展非常的好但是我們期待這樣觀光產業一個帶段能夠讓更多的這個觀光的元素能夠增加那所以觀光署目前為了吸引國際觀光客也規劃了很多的方案包含這個消費金的抽獎交通票券來臺機票甚至一些套裝行程的優惠那不曉得觀光署有沒有針對這部分有沒有明定我們大概的這個行銷策略的效應在哪裡\n153910\t175735\t那個部分是我們會有兩個一個是試用全球一個車的一個各市場的部分會依據各市場的旅客需求去做一個變化我想各個市場有滾動檢討嗎對那因為有些行銷的部分我們可能要去做市場的試驗如果是效益好我們再加嘛效益不好的部分我們可能會來檢討我們的做法再做一個滾動式的一個調整\n176772\t192493\t好 那不過我還是要提醒就是有一個我們因為觀光署每年會針對國內一些這個國際旅客來臺灣熱門的景點的一個排行那比如說像是目前我們看到的臺北101西門町甚至九份 我想\n193474\t213388\t根據這個目前的這個觀光 前瞻觀光政策研究室的統計 六都的旅遊人士大為增加 因為六都的財源比較好 他們比較有辦活動 演唱會這個觀光的這個活動也很多所以佔比已經高達72.5%非六都只吸引到27.5%的國際旅客\n215649\t224703\t那我想這個之前我們的署長也提到說要用三年的計畫來推動北回之巔振興南部的觀光客我想這個目前不曉得這個計畫的進度進度到哪裡\n228673\t251511\t報委員 相關計畫部分我們目前提到願帶願核定我們也相關準備工作已經同時展開這部分有一個政策是希望就是說不要讓遊客集中在大台北都要分流可以做一個分流有關的部分就是可能相關的南部這些景點優化跟行程的串聯我想我們後續展開的部分會持續去推動\n253004\t279437\t不過這個這個次長跟副處長我還是要提醒我過去很多次也在委員會甚至院會提到像我們屏東來講我們過去最吃虧就是交通問題我這個次長以前在民調局知道嗎我們現在沒有飛機啦高鐵也沒有到屏東啦鐵路也沒有雙軌化我們怎麼辦對我們來講國外旅客到坐飛機到桃園他要搭高鐵來就一天而已\n281011\t301422\t對我們來講真的是在旅遊規劃上面很吃虧所耗費的成本也很高未來我想針對這樣一個狀況我們還是要期待交通部優先處理我們的交通問題那甚至我想我們現在許多的部會都在推觀光包含像屏東來講我們有原民有客家有農村有漁村也有市區\n302242\t319105\t那我們許多的部會會針對不一樣的這個他們各自的業務當然去發展但是我們很擔心一方面疊床加屋一方面沒有整合1加1大於2的力道那這部分觀光署身為一個觀光主管機關是不是有期待做這樣一個部會的一個整合\n322197\t337275\t報告委員我先說明一下目前在行政院有一個觀光諮詢委員會議這個會議的主要目的就是把各個部會跟觀光有關的都整合在一起上一次會議前幾個禮拜才剛開過\n338776\t358750\t主席跟我們都要求譬如說相關的部分像原民會文化部這個國家公園署等等這些單位他如果有大型活動或是有一些計畫型的活動應該要提前兩次會議前要把他的資訊放到我們的平台上讓觀光署做統一的宣傳包含國內跟國外\n359410\t375238\t在平台上來處理 這是你們在會議上你們比較官方的一個處理方式但就我們地方來看我倒覺得很可惜我們一直要強調中央跟地方縣市政府合作的一個機制像以肯尼來講觀光署也可以管得到\n376463\t394241\t國家公益署可以管得到但是國家公益署他只顧生態他不一定重視觀光那觀光署我也跟署長提過了觀光署是要重觀光所以我們期待我們的部會應該優先去做整併然後再結合屏東縣政府我們怎麼樣把一個活動能夠把地方\n394781\t417227\t包含我們一些社團也好把一些這個我們的民宿業者或是旅館業者也好應該整合起來讓我們的所謂的一個面向可以點線面把它拉大我不曉得次長有沒有考慮到這些的問題今天觀光署的專案報告裡面有特別講到一個重點以往是18個觀光圈那我們這一次是整合成北中南東加3個離島\n418607\t440945\t那所以他最主要的目的就是說 我剛剛報告把中央部會的整合完以後 再跟地方的做整合把他的特色跟亮點 還有區域性的疫情市長這個講很久了 現在還在講整合我們會不會太慢這個是一直在做的工作啦 那我剛剛報告研訓院裡面有一個是這個促進產業發展他裡面大概就要協助這些把他的特色找出來\n441585\t456403\t我 我是一直期待啦 這個交通部跟觀光署不能只是固步自封啦 我真的覺得我也跟署長提過了 我約個時間讓他去聽一聽我們年輕觀光業者的一些心聲他們在觀光這個行業裡面\n457364\t484251\t招諷的一個困境不只是有觀光署的問題包含像國家公園署裡面的問題也很多我想這個應該要怎麼樣讓這些年輕人他們這麼有勇氣願意投入這個行業但是我們怎麼樣去協助他們讓他們能夠在這條路上行得更順遂行得更好我想這是他們有很多的創意跟想法讓他們能夠發揮更好的創意吸引更多的國內遊客來參觀那我想另外最後一個那個次長\n485351\t501380\t我一直也提到我們恆春這個五里亭機場的問題那當然我們也感謝民航局針對這個最近辦那個一個陸海空的一個3D的嘉年華活動吸引了非常多的人潮但是我們不是只是要辦機場活化的一個活動\n501980\t519417\t我們還是期待這個能夠飛機能夠包機能夠重新從桃園也好松山也好能夠飛到我們的武里亭這個對國外的旅客也好甚至北部的旅客也好節省非常多的時間我想這也是讓杭州武里亭機場可以火化很重要的一個契機\n521258\t536066\t這部分你能不能願意協助這個部分這個我們觀光署會來處理我們現在有包機補助方案那以往是國際包機這次好像也有談到國內包機的部分我想國內 國際已經講很久了都沒起來 國內是不是可以現在啟動應該是華信航空吧\n542549\t566646\t華信航空我們有找他來那最近應該會去拜訪周縣長包含署長跟民安局長我們都會去拜訪周縣長跟他討論細節市長不要只是拜訪啦真的要落實把這個案子能夠把它促成我們希望能夠有更多這個北部的遊客能夠藉由這樣一個便捷的一個這個包機的一個業務能夠很快速到達我們的恆春目前就是請華信積極來處理包機\n568668\t571558\t好 這部分期待趕快能夠有一個新的進步 是 謝謝委員好 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席 邀請我們林長次還有觀光署我們的黃國淑長上請 副市長請\n市長 副市長早我想我們交通部在2021年提出的臺灣觀光邁向2025年的一個方案那今年剛好已經屆滿5年那當然目前看起來有一些KPI去年有達標但是有些距離目標還很遠那不曉得我們交通部針對這樣的一個狀況\n不管是這個國旅也好 還有國外的旅客這個來台的觀光人次也好我想剛剛也許多的委員都在提到這個部分那原本我們國旅的部分這個2025年旅遊的人次是看1100萬消費金額是4100億但是距離還有點很遠不曉得我們交通部跟我們觀光署針對這個未來努力的目標是不是有在做調整跟修正\n報告委員我們後五年的目標是希望以提升值我想因為我們台灣的關係它承載量是有一定的上限如果在目前很多在討論所謂的過度觀光的部分所以我們現階段的部分是希望提供來來的部分可以讓我們的當地這些旅遊所以我們有奠定未來五年的目標了嗎\n我們希望就是把那個2030的部分有一個兆元產業包括就是國旅跟國際旅客的部分\n好 我想現在不是只有交通部跟觀光署的官員頭痛我們第一線的觀光的從業人員大家壓力也很大尤其我們這個屏東我們過去很多的年輕人懷抱的理想到屏東這個投入這個觀光產業有的甚至去開民宿現在都很慘了這個客源也少然後營運上貸款的壓力也很大那我想不管是\n從這個整體的經濟名也好我們當然我們先知道臺灣的經濟這個發展非常的好但是我們期待這樣觀光產業一個帶段能夠讓更多的這個觀光的元素能夠增加那所以觀光署目前為了吸引國際觀光客也規劃了很多的方案包含這個消費金的抽獎交通票券來臺機票甚至一些套裝行程的優惠那不曉得觀光署有沒有針對這部分有沒有明定我們大概的這個行銷策略的效應在哪裡\n那個部分是我們會有兩個一個是試用全球一個車的一個各市場的部分會依據各市場的旅客需求去做一個變化我想各個市場有滾動檢討嗎對那因為有些行銷的部分我們可能要去做市場的試驗如果是效益好我們再加嘛效益不好的部分我們可能會來檢討我們的做法再做一個滾動式的一個調整\n好 那不過我還是要提醒就是有一個我們因為觀光署每年會針對國內一些這個國際旅客來臺灣熱門的景點的一個排行那比如說像是目前我們看到的臺北101西門町甚至九份 我想\n根據這個目前的這個觀光 前瞻觀光政策研究室的統計 六都的旅遊人士大為增加 因為六都的財源比較好 他們比較有辦活動 演唱會這個觀光的這個活動也很多所以佔比已經高達72.5%非六都只吸引到27.5%的國際旅客\n那我想這個之前我們的署長也提到說要用三年的計畫來推動北回之巔振興南部的觀光客我想這個目前不曉得這個計畫的進度進度到哪裡\n報委員 相關計畫部分我們目前提到願帶願核定我們也相關準備工作已經同時展開這部分有一個政策是希望就是說不要讓遊客集中在大台北都要分流可以做一個分流有關的部分就是可能相關的南部這些景點優化跟行程的串聯我想我們後續展開的部分會持續去推動\n不過這個這個次長跟副處長我還是要提醒我過去很多次也在委員會甚至院會提到像我們屏東來講我們過去最吃虧就是交通問題我這個次長以前在民調局知道嗎我們現在沒有飛機啦高鐵也沒有到屏東啦鐵路也沒有雙軌化我們怎麼辦對我們來講國外旅客到坐飛機到桃園他要搭高鐵來就一天而已\n對我們來講真的是在旅遊規劃上面很吃虧所耗費的成本也很高未來我想針對這樣一個狀況我們還是要期待交通部優先處理我們的交通問題那甚至我想我們現在許多的部會都在推觀光包含像屏東來講我們有原民有客家有農村有漁村也有市區\n那我們許多的部會會針對不一樣的這個他們各自的業務當然去發展但是我們很擔心一方面疊床加屋一方面沒有整合1加1大於2的力道那這部分觀光署身為一個觀光主管機關是不是有期待做這樣一個部會的一個整合\n報告委員我先說明一下目前在行政院有一個觀光諮詢委員會議這個會議的主要目的就是把各個部會跟觀光有關的都整合在一起上一次會議前幾個禮拜才剛開過\n主席跟我們都要求譬如說相關的部分像原民會文化部這個國家公園署等等這些單位他如果有大型活動或是有一些計畫型的活動應該要提前兩次會議前要把他的資訊放到我們的平台上讓觀光署做統一的宣傳包含國內跟國外\n在平台上來處理 這是你們在會議上你們比較官方的一個處理方式但就我們地方來看我倒覺得很可惜我們一直要強調中央跟地方縣市政府合作的一個機制像以肯尼來講觀光署也可以管得到\n國家公益署可以管得到但是國家公益署他只顧生態他不一定重視觀光那觀光署我也跟署長提過了觀光署是要重觀光所以我們期待我們的部會應該優先去做整併然後再結合屏東縣政府我們怎麼樣把一個活動能夠把地方\n包含我們一些社團也好把一些這個我們的民宿業者或是旅館業者也好應該整合起來讓我們的所謂的一個面向可以點線面把它拉大我不曉得次長有沒有考慮到這些的問題今天觀光署的專案報告裡面有特別講到一個重點以往是18個觀光圈那我們這一次是整合成北中南東加3個離島\n那所以他最主要的目的就是說 我剛剛報告把中央部會的整合完以後 再跟地方的做整合把他的特色跟亮點 還有區域性的疫情市長這個講很久了 現在還在講整合我們會不會太慢這個是一直在做的工作啦 那我剛剛報告研訓院裡面有一個是這個促進產業發展他裡面大概就要協助這些把他的特色找出來\n我 我是一直期待啦 這個交通部跟觀光署不能只是固步自封啦 我真的覺得我也跟署長提過了 我約個時間讓他去聽一聽我們年輕觀光業者的一些心聲他們在觀光這個行業裡面\n招諷的一個困境不只是有觀光署的問題包含像國家公園署裡面的問題也很多我想這個應該要怎麼樣讓這些年輕人他們這麼有勇氣願意投入這個行業但是我們怎麼樣去協助他們讓他們能夠在這條路上行得更順遂行得更好我想這是他們有很多的創意跟想法讓他們能夠發揮更好的創意吸引更多的國內遊客來參觀那我想另外最後一個那個次長\n我一直也提到我們恆春這個五里亭機場的問題那當然我們也感謝民航局針對這個最近辦那個一個陸海空的一個3D的嘉年華活動吸引了非常多的人潮但是我們不是只是要辦機場活化的一個活動\n我們還是期待這個能夠飛機能夠包機能夠重新從桃園也好松山也好能夠飛到我們的武里亭這個對國外的旅客也好甚至北部的旅客也好節省非常多的時間我想這也是讓杭州武里亭機場可以火化很重要的一個契機\n這部分你能不能願意協助這個部分這個我們觀光署會來處理我們現在有包機補助方案那以往是國際包機這次好像也有談到國內包機的部分我想國內 國際已經講很久了都沒起來 國內是不是可以現在啟動應該是華信航空吧\n華信航空我們有找他來那最近應該會去拜訪周縣長包含署長跟民安局長我們都會去拜訪周縣長跟他討論細節市長不要只是拜訪啦真的要落實把這個案子能夠把它促成我們希望能夠有更多這個北部的遊客能夠藉由這樣一個便捷的一個這個包機的一個業務能夠很快速到達我們的恆春目前就是請華信積極來處理包機\n好 這部分期待趕快能夠有一個新的進步 是 謝謝委員好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.334 --> 00:06.766\n謝謝主席邀請我們林長次還有觀光署我們的黃國淑長上請副市長請\n\n00:13.047 --> 00:32.368\n市長副市長早我想我們交通部在2021年提出的臺灣觀光邁向2025年的一個方案那今年剛好已經屆滿5年那當然目前看起來有一些KPI去年有達標但是有些距離目標還很遠那不曉得我們交通部針對這樣的一個狀況\n\n00:34.530 --> 00:59.703\n不管是這個國旅也好還有國外的旅客這個來台的觀光人次也好我想剛剛也許多的委員都在提到這個部分那原本我們國旅的部分這個2025年旅遊的人次是看1100萬消費金額是4100億但是距離還有點很遠不曉得我們交通部跟我們觀光署針對這個未來努力的目標是不是有在做調整跟修正\n\n01:03.256 --> 01:24.096\n報告委員我們後五年的目標是希望以提升值我想因為我們台灣的關係它承載量是有一定的上限如果在目前很多在討論所謂的過度觀光的部分所以我們現階段的部分是希望提供來來的部分可以讓我們的當地這些旅遊所以我們有奠定未來五年的目標了嗎\n\n01:25.298 --> 01:33.577\n我們希望就是把那個2030的部分有一個兆元產業包括就是國旅跟國際旅客的部分\n\n01:34.605 --> 02:00.968\n好我想現在不是只有交通部跟觀光署的官員頭痛我們第一線的觀光的從業人員大家壓力也很大尤其我們這個屏東我們過去很多的年輕人懷抱的理想到屏東這個投入這個觀光產業有的甚至去開民宿現在都很慘了這個客源也少然後營運上貸款的壓力也很大那我想不管是\n\n02:02.530 --> 02:31.489\n從這個整體的經濟名也好我們當然我們先知道臺灣的經濟這個發展非常的好但是我們期待這樣觀光產業一個帶段能夠讓更多的這個觀光的元素能夠增加那所以觀光署目前為了吸引國際觀光客也規劃了很多的方案包含這個消費金的抽獎交通票券來臺機票甚至一些套裝行程的優惠那不曉得觀光署有沒有針對這部分有沒有明定我們大概的這個行銷策略的效應在哪裡\n\n02:33.910 --> 02:55.735\n那個部分是我們會有兩個一個是試用全球一個車的一個各市場的部分會依據各市場的旅客需求去做一個變化我想各個市場有滾動檢討嗎對那因為有些行銷的部分我們可能要去做市場的試驗如果是效益好我們再加嘛效益不好的部分我們可能會來檢討我們的做法再做一個滾動式的一個調整\n\n02:56.772 --> 03:12.493\n好那不過我還是要提醒就是有一個我們因為觀光署每年會針對國內一些這個國際旅客來臺灣熱門的景點的一個排行那比如說像是目前我們看到的臺北101西門町甚至九份我想\n\n03:13.474 --> 03:33.388\n根據這個目前的這個觀光前瞻觀光政策研究室的統計六都的旅遊人士大為增加因為六都的財源比較好他們比較有辦活動演唱會這個觀光的這個活動也很多所以佔比已經高達72.5%非六都只吸引到27.5%的國際旅客\n\n03:35.649 --> 03:44.703\n那我想這個之前我們的署長也提到說要用三年的計畫來推動北回之巔振興南部的觀光客我想這個目前不曉得這個計畫的進度進度到哪裡\n\n03:48.673 --> 04:11.511\n報委員相關計畫部分我們目前提到願帶願核定我們也相關準備工作已經同時展開這部分有一個政策是希望就是說不要讓遊客集中在大台北都要分流可以做一個分流有關的部分就是可能相關的南部這些景點優化跟行程的串聯我想我們後續展開的部分會持續去推動\n\n04:13.004 --> 04:39.437\n不過這個這個次長跟副處長我還是要提醒我過去很多次也在委員會甚至院會提到像我們屏東來講我們過去最吃虧就是交通問題我這個次長以前在民調局知道嗎我們現在沒有飛機啦高鐵也沒有到屏東啦鐵路也沒有雙軌化我們怎麼辦對我們來講國外旅客到坐飛機到桃園他要搭高鐵來就一天而已\n\n04:41.011 --> 05:01.422\n對我們來講真的是在旅遊規劃上面很吃虧所耗費的成本也很高未來我想針對這樣一個狀況我們還是要期待交通部優先處理我們的交通問題那甚至我想我們現在許多的部會都在推觀光包含像屏東來講我們有原民有客家有農村有漁村也有市區\n\n05:02.242 --> 05:19.105\n那我們許多的部會會針對不一樣的這個他們各自的業務當然去發展但是我們很擔心一方面疊床加屋一方面沒有整合1加1大於2的力道那這部分觀光署身為一個觀光主管機關是不是有期待做這樣一個部會的一個整合\n\n05:22.197 --> 05:37.275\n報告委員我先說明一下目前在行政院有一個觀光諮詢委員會議這個會議的主要目的就是把各個部會跟觀光有關的都整合在一起上一次會議前幾個禮拜才剛開過\n\n05:38.776 --> 05:58.750\n主席跟我們都要求譬如說相關的部分像原民會文化部這個國家公園署等等這些單位他如果有大型活動或是有一些計畫型的活動應該要提前兩次會議前要把他的資訊放到我們的平台上讓觀光署做統一的宣傳包含國內跟國外\n\n05:59.410 --> 06:15.238\n在平台上來處理這是你們在會議上你們比較官方的一個處理方式但就我們地方來看我倒覺得很可惜我們一直要強調中央跟地方縣市政府合作的一個機制像以肯尼來講觀光署也可以管得到\n\n06:16.463 --> 06:34.241\n國家公益署可以管得到但是國家公益署他只顧生態他不一定重視觀光那觀光署我也跟署長提過了觀光署是要重觀光所以我們期待我們的部會應該優先去做整併然後再結合屏東縣政府我們怎麼樣把一個活動能夠把地方\n\n06:34.781 --> 06:57.227\n包含我們一些社團也好把一些這個我們的民宿業者或是旅館業者也好應該整合起來讓我們的所謂的一個面向可以點線面把它拉大我不曉得次長有沒有考慮到這些的問題今天觀光署的專案報告裡面有特別講到一個重點以往是18個觀光圈那我們這一次是整合成北中南東加3個離島\n\n06:58.607 --> 07:20.945\n那所以他最主要的目的就是說我剛剛報告把中央部會的整合完以後再跟地方的做整合把他的特色跟亮點還有區域性的疫情市長這個講很久了現在還在講整合我們會不會太慢這個是一直在做的工作啦那我剛剛報告研訓院裡面有一個是這個促進產業發展他裡面大概就要協助這些把他的特色找出來\n\n07:21.585 --> 07:36.403\n我我是一直期待啦這個交通部跟觀光署不能只是固步自封啦我真的覺得我也跟署長提過了我約個時間讓他去聽一聽我們年輕觀光業者的一些心聲他們在觀光這個行業裡面\n\n07:37.364 --> 08:04.251\n招諷的一個困境不只是有觀光署的問題包含像國家公園署裡面的問題也很多我想這個應該要怎麼樣讓這些年輕人他們這麼有勇氣願意投入這個行業但是我們怎麼樣去協助他們讓他們能夠在這條路上行得更順遂行得更好我想這是他們有很多的創意跟想法讓他們能夠發揮更好的創意吸引更多的國內遊客來參觀那我想另外最後一個那個次長\n\n08:05.351 --> 08:21.380\n我一直也提到我們恆春這個五里亭機場的問題那當然我們也感謝民航局針對這個最近辦那個一個陸海空的一個3D的嘉年華活動吸引了非常多的人潮但是我們不是只是要辦機場活化的一個活動\n\n08:21.980 --> 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