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--> 00:02:52,652\n衰退了10%就是只有46%所以就是說我們要怎樣去開拓這個新課員這個可能都是要去檢討跟有一些策略那是不是請署長可以回答\n\n9\n00:02:54,090 --> 00:03:13,218\n好謝謝委員提問因為觀光是這樣它對大環境的敏感性特別的強我覺得這兩年台灣因為天災的關係確實也會造成外籍旅客對於台灣是否安全這件事情有產生一點疑慮我們看到的是這樣子\n\n10\n00:03:14,338 --> 00:03:33,916\n那當然是說開發新課員一定非常重要所以像我們明年度我們明年度大概針對去年跟今年我們在國旅跟國際旅客上面遇到的一些困難我們提出新的一些政策想法包括說像國際旅客我們希望說用重遊客\n\n11\n00:03:35,057 --> 00:03:52,679\n因為我們發現來過台灣的人來過台灣的旅客對台灣的喜好感是特別的強所以我們希望有機會邀請他回來等於是有老朋友帶新朋友再來回台灣這個是我們對新的客人希望用的一個策略是…\n\n12\n00:03:54,621 --> 00:04:20,176\n對這個想法我本身是蠻肯定的因為我有同樣的一個這樣的問題就是剛好想問署長就是說對於再度來台的旅客我們有沒有相關的一個分析就是說在國際旅客來台灣的然後第二次第三次來台的這個比例有多高那對於未來我們的就是針對這個方向的空間還有多大因為我們比較這個日本\n\n13\n00:04:23,178 --> 00:04:48,584\n日本是我們台灣人很想去的一個地方而且可以說是一去再去有的甚至一年去好幾次可能兩次三次四次我有聽朋友說他甚至每個月都去一次日本為什麼日本會有那麼高的一個吸引力讓台灣人甚至是其他國家的人很想去署長有沒有去想過\n\n14\n00:04:53,976 --> 00:05:18,375\n乾淨舒服自在好買東西也是一種然後第二個是我覺得日本持續也都有推一些新的項目那這點也都是我們應該要再多更多一點的學習是好那其實在署長上任第一次的質詢我就有提到因為署長是來自業界曾經就是擔任過那個松菸這個\n\n15\n00:05:22,479 --> 00:05:35,554\n園區的執行長所以當時你也成功的就是帶領這個團隊推動這個場域的轉型然後吸引了超過千萬人次的一個觀光旅客所以我想就是說我們也是希望借重你這樣子的一個\n\n16\n00:05:37,396 --> 00:05:56,045\n經營的一個能力所以在你目前到任應該四個月了那在這四個月我不曉得說有新的做法嗎就是說到任之後到現在就是說想要翻轉台灣的觀光你有新的作為了嗎新的策略了嗎\n\n17\n00:05:57,226 --> 00:06:19,481\n謝謝委員給我機會其實我覺得要去翻轉台灣的觀光當然也不是一速可乘當然第一個還是必須先了解問題在哪裡其實台灣的觀光我覺得政策相關的都有只是我們的系制度可能做得不到位那些都是需要花時間去調整溝通的我記得我也跟委員溝通過\n\n18\n00:06:20,882 --> 00:06:45,582\n大家覺得台灣的景點或台灣的節慶沒特色那這件事情我們上次也講說我們希望每個地方找到自己的特色所以對於像相關的補助計畫我們也希望加強地方特色的節慶我們再給予多一點的補助這樣子讓每個地方都找到自己的特色那我也不太支持齊頭市平等的補助\n\n19\n00:06:46,683 --> 00:07:11,760\n因為這樣的狀況大家都不會好所以還是希望說然後像我們的區域觀光就是我們觀光圈的區域觀光接下來也要採取的是競爭型的計畫是希望由地方主動來爭取他們到底想要怎麼做因為我覺得區域的特色必須由區域自己形塑那當然我們會組一些輔導委員會來協助大家做一些的輔導跟溝通\n\n20\n00:07:13,561 --> 00:07:29,992\n那這個是我們一步一步先往前這樣做因為它跟跨區域的部分是有關係的那在我們現在手上的政策我們就希望說朝這個方向來優化以上先這樣說我想就是打造區域觀光新品牌也是\n\n21\n00:07:30,572 --> 00:07:46,853\n行政院的一個施政的一個重點所以我覺得說就像剛剛署長所回答的事實上也就是說要建立一個觀光的一個品牌是非常一個重要的所以我覺得說我們台灣的觀光不應該還是只是停留在說\n\n22\n00:07:48,074 --> 00:08:15,889\n這個日月潭阿里山就是這些舊有的這樣子的一個焦點我想台灣每一個地方都有它的一個特色從北到南那剛剛署長有提到說因為今年這個天災比較多那因為天災就是有一些區域性那其他的地方其實也是還有很多有待努力開發的一個旅遊的景點那以彰化來說就是一個\n\n23\n00:08:16,869 --> 00:08:35,322\n一個很有潛力的一個地方那我覺得說比較可惜就是說他的這個品牌還有待去再強化那我們也希望說在這個部分我們觀光署希望能夠給予大力的一個協助那另外就是說對於我們觀光署在行銷台灣的這個\n\n24\n00:08:38,224 --> 00:08:59,324\n觀光的資源景點我們看到說在中部地區他有提到說中部地區包括苗栗縣台中市彰化縣南投縣及雲林縣等五個縣市那就我們觀光署的這個網站的內容的描述裡面有提到每一個縣市的\n\n25\n00:08:59,944 --> 00:09:12,498\n一個觀光的特色包括說南投的泰雅度假村九族文化村雲林的劍湖山世界等等這一些都點到了唯獨就沒有講到彰化縣署長請問您怎麼看\n\n26\n00:09:16,435 --> 00:09:41,568\n這個我們來改進那我在這邊想恭喜我們蘇維委員的彰化上個月我們的台灣設計展在彰化非常的成功那次的展覽基本上應該把我們彰化的不管是產業特色或人文特色都做了一個很不錯的梳理那這些都會成為我們未來在觀光宣傳裡面重要的養分跟題材\n\n27\n00:09:42,399 --> 00:10:10,578\n是因為以這個我們的觀光的統計來看我們彰化縣的鹿港老街在這個國旅的景點裡面就是以這個1730萬人次可以說是第一名那八卦山國家風景區也以這個623萬人次拿下國家級的風景區第一名的一個殊榮所以彰化縣不是沒有一個具吸引力的這個景點可是在我們的網站裡面都沒有提到我覺得這個應該是很\n\n28\n00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,422\n很不應該的地方\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1402\t3029\t謝謝主席 請主席邀請署長觀光署署長陳署長請\n16257\t33901\t好 謝謝署長早那今天委員會針對就是900萬國際旅客達標的情形及旅宿業缺工情形振興改善措施來進行的專案報告那我們看到本來我們今年度我們設定的目標也是要\n34461\t58339\t千萬人次嘛不久前我們又下修了到900萬900萬的這個國際旅客那以目前來說1到7月的這個來台的一個旅客數才480幾萬嘛那在剩下的這個應該不到半年的時間您有信心有把握可以達標嗎900萬人次\n62193\t88593\t還要再努力一下下還要再努力那你有沒有去因為要努力的話你一定要有方向有策略而且要去檢討我們是不是有哪些問題要去解決我不曉得說我們署長這邊有沒有去相關的一個評估那我先再請教一下因為我們也是根據最近我們公布的113年來台旅客消費及動向的一個調查所以我們也可以看出來就是說\n89654\t117820\t對於目前來台的這個國際旅客有一些改變就是在疫情前2019年我們看到來台的旅客以觀光為主的有高達75.7%那到去這個2024年就是113年來台觀光的人數就只有66%那這個數字就是可以看得出來就是說以觀光為目的的來台的這個人數減少了然後就是\n119100\t141320\t這樣子的一個現象那當然就是我們要去檢討說為什麼就是來台的就是說要來觀光就是想要來玩的這個人會減少了是不是我們沒有很這個具有吸引力的一個觀光的吸引力或亮點吸引國外的旅客想要來\n142521\t159070\t那另外就是我們也看到在這個調查裡面有顯示到說在2019年來台的旅客裡面第一次來的有佔了57%那到這個2024年第一次來台的就\n159910\t172652\t衰退了10%就是只有46%所以就是說我們要怎樣去開拓這個新課員這個可能都是要去檢討跟有一些策略那是不是請署長可以回答\n174090\t193218\t好 謝謝委員提問因為觀光是這樣它對大環境的敏感性特別的強我覺得這兩年台灣因為天災的關係確實也會造成外籍旅客對於台灣是否安全這件事情有產生一點疑慮我們看到的是這樣子\n194338\t213916\t那當然是說開發新課員一定非常重要所以像我們明年度我們明年度大概針對去年跟今年我們在國旅跟國際旅客上面遇到的一些困難我們提出新的一些政策想法包括說像國際旅客我們希望說用重遊客\n215057\t232679\t因為我們發現來過台灣的人來過台灣的旅客對台灣的喜好感是特別的強所以我們希望有機會邀請他回來等於是有老朋友帶新朋友再來回台灣這個是我們對新的客人希望用的一個策略是…\n234621\t260176\t對 這個想法我本身是蠻肯定的因為我有同樣的一個這樣的問題就是剛好想問署長就是說對於再度來台的旅客我們有沒有相關的一個分析就是說在國際旅客來台灣的然後第二次第三次來台的這個比例有多高那對於未來我們的就是針對這個方向的空間還有多大因為我們比較這個日本\n263178\t288584\t日本是我們台灣人很想去的一個地方而且可以說是一去再去有的甚至一年去好幾次可能兩次 三次 四次我有聽朋友說他甚至每個月都去一次日本為什麼日本會有那麼高的一個吸引力讓台灣人甚至是其他國家的人很想去署長有沒有去想過\n293976\t318375\t乾淨舒服自在好買東西也是一種然後第二個是我覺得日本持續也都有推一些新的項目那這點也都是我們應該要再多更多一點的學習是好那其實在署長上任第一次的質詢我就有提到因為署長是來自業界曾經就是擔任過那個松菸這個\n322479\t335554\t園區的執行長所以當時你也成功的就是帶領這個團隊推動這個場域的轉型然後吸引了超過千萬人次的一個觀光旅客所以我想就是說我們也是希望借重你這樣子的一個\n337396\t356045\t經營的一個能力所以在你目前到任應該四個月了那在這四個月我不曉得說有新的做法嗎就是說到任之後到現在就是說想要翻轉台灣的觀光你有新的作為了嗎新的策略了嗎\n357226\t379481\t謝謝委員給我機會其實我覺得要去翻轉台灣的觀光當然也不是一速可乘當然第一個還是必須先了解問題在哪裡其實台灣的觀光我覺得政策相關的都有只是我們的系制度可能做得不到位那些都是需要花時間去調整溝通的我記得我也跟委員溝通過\n380882\t405582\t大家覺得台灣的景點或台灣的節慶沒特色那這件事情我們上次也講說我們希望每個地方找到自己的特色所以對於像相關的補助計畫我們也希望加強地方特色的節慶我們再給予多一點的補助這樣子讓每個地方都找到自己的特色那我也不太支持齊頭市平等的補助\n406683\t431760\t因為這樣的狀況大家都不會好所以還是希望說然後像我們的區域觀光就是我們觀光圈的區域觀光接下來也要採取的是競爭型的計畫是希望由地方主動來爭取他們到底想要怎麼做因為我覺得區域的特色必須由區域自己形塑那當然我們會組一些輔導委員會來協助大家做一些的輔導跟溝通\n433561\t449992\t那這個是我們一步一步先往前這樣做因為它跟跨區域的部分是有關係的那在我們現在手上的政策我們就希望說朝這個方向來優化以上 先這樣說我想就是打造區域觀光新品牌也是\n450572\t466853\t行政院的一個施政的一個重點所以我覺得說就像剛剛署長所回答的事實上也就是說要建立一個觀光的一個品牌是非常一個重要的所以我覺得說我們台灣的觀光不應該還是只是停留在說\n468074\t495889\t這個日月潭阿里山就是這些舊有的這樣子的一個焦點我想台灣每一個地方都有它的一個特色從北到南那剛剛署長有提到說因為今年這個天災比較多那因為天災就是有一些區域性那其他的地方其實也是還有很多有待努力開發的一個旅遊的景點那以彰化來說就是一個\n496869\t515322\t一個很有潛力的一個地方那我覺得說比較可惜就是說他的這個品牌還有待去再強化那我們也希望說在這個部分我們觀光署希望能夠給予大力的一個協助那另外就是說對於我們觀光署在行銷台灣的這個\n518224\t539324\t觀光的資源景點我們看到說在中部地區他有提到說中部地區包括苗栗縣台中市彰化縣南投縣及雲林縣等五個縣市那就我們觀光署的這個網站的內容的描述裡面有提到每一個縣市的\n539944\t552498\t一個觀光的特色包括說南投的泰雅度假村 九族文化村雲林的劍湖山世界等等這一些都點到了唯獨就沒有講到彰化縣署長請問您怎麼看\n556435\t581568\t這個我們來改進那我在這邊想恭喜我們蘇維委員的彰化上個月我們的台灣設計展在彰化非常的成功那次的展覽基本上應該把我們彰化的不管是產業特色或人文特色都做了一個很不錯的梳理那這些都會成為我們未來在觀光宣傳裡面重要的養分跟題材\n582399\t610578\t是因為以這個我們的觀光的統計來看我們彰化縣的鹿港老街在這個國旅的景點裡面就是以這個1730萬人次可以說是第一名那八卦山國家風景區也以這個623萬人次拿下國家級的風景區第一名的一個殊榮所以彰化縣不是沒有一個具吸引力的這個景點可是在我們的網站裡面都沒有提到我覺得這個應該是很\n612440\t613422\t很不應該的地方\n","txt":"謝謝主席 請主席邀請署長觀光署署長陳署長請\n好 謝謝署長早那今天委員會針對就是900萬國際旅客達標的情形及旅宿業缺工情形振興改善措施來進行的專案報告那我們看到本來我們今年度我們設定的目標也是要\n千萬人次嘛不久前我們又下修了到900萬900萬的這個國際旅客那以目前來說1到7月的這個來台的一個旅客數才480幾萬嘛那在剩下的這個應該不到半年的時間您有信心有把握可以達標嗎900萬人次\n還要再努力一下下還要再努力那你有沒有去因為要努力的話你一定要有方向有策略而且要去檢討我們是不是有哪些問題要去解決我不曉得說我們署長這邊有沒有去相關的一個評估那我先再請教一下因為我們也是根據最近我們公布的113年來台旅客消費及動向的一個調查所以我們也可以看出來就是說\n對於目前來台的這個國際旅客有一些改變就是在疫情前2019年我們看到來台的旅客以觀光為主的有高達75.7%那到去這個2024年就是113年來台觀光的人數就只有66%那這個數字就是可以看得出來就是說以觀光為目的的來台的這個人數減少了然後就是\n這樣子的一個現象那當然就是我們要去檢討說為什麼就是來台的就是說要來觀光就是想要來玩的這個人會減少了是不是我們沒有很這個具有吸引力的一個觀光的吸引力或亮點吸引國外的旅客想要來\n那另外就是我們也看到在這個調查裡面有顯示到說在2019年來台的旅客裡面第一次來的有佔了57%那到這個2024年第一次來台的就\n衰退了10%就是只有46%所以就是說我們要怎樣去開拓這個新課員這個可能都是要去檢討跟有一些策略那是不是請署長可以回答\n好 謝謝委員提問因為觀光是這樣它對大環境的敏感性特別的強我覺得這兩年台灣因為天災的關係確實也會造成外籍旅客對於台灣是否安全這件事情有產生一點疑慮我們看到的是這樣子\n那當然是說開發新課員一定非常重要所以像我們明年度我們明年度大概針對去年跟今年我們在國旅跟國際旅客上面遇到的一些困難我們提出新的一些政策想法包括說像國際旅客我們希望說用重遊客\n因為我們發現來過台灣的人來過台灣的旅客對台灣的喜好感是特別的強所以我們希望有機會邀請他回來等於是有老朋友帶新朋友再來回台灣這個是我們對新的客人希望用的一個策略是…\n對 這個想法我本身是蠻肯定的因為我有同樣的一個這樣的問題就是剛好想問署長就是說對於再度來台的旅客我們有沒有相關的一個分析就是說在國際旅客來台灣的然後第二次第三次來台的這個比例有多高那對於未來我們的就是針對這個方向的空間還有多大因為我們比較這個日本\n日本是我們台灣人很想去的一個地方而且可以說是一去再去有的甚至一年去好幾次可能兩次 三次 四次我有聽朋友說他甚至每個月都去一次日本為什麼日本會有那麼高的一個吸引力讓台灣人甚至是其他國家的人很想去署長有沒有去想過\n乾淨舒服自在好買東西也是一種然後第二個是我覺得日本持續也都有推一些新的項目那這點也都是我們應該要再多更多一點的學習是好那其實在署長上任第一次的質詢我就有提到因為署長是來自業界曾經就是擔任過那個松菸這個\n園區的執行長所以當時你也成功的就是帶領這個團隊推動這個場域的轉型然後吸引了超過千萬人次的一個觀光旅客所以我想就是說我們也是希望借重你這樣子的一個\n經營的一個能力所以在你目前到任應該四個月了那在這四個月我不曉得說有新的做法嗎就是說到任之後到現在就是說想要翻轉台灣的觀光你有新的作為了嗎新的策略了嗎\n謝謝委員給我機會其實我覺得要去翻轉台灣的觀光當然也不是一速可乘當然第一個還是必須先了解問題在哪裡其實台灣的觀光我覺得政策相關的都有只是我們的系制度可能做得不到位那些都是需要花時間去調整溝通的我記得我也跟委員溝通過\n大家覺得台灣的景點或台灣的節慶沒特色那這件事情我們上次也講說我們希望每個地方找到自己的特色所以對於像相關的補助計畫我們也希望加強地方特色的節慶我們再給予多一點的補助這樣子讓每個地方都找到自己的特色那我也不太支持齊頭市平等的補助\n因為這樣的狀況大家都不會好所以還是希望說然後像我們的區域觀光就是我們觀光圈的區域觀光接下來也要採取的是競爭型的計畫是希望由地方主動來爭取他們到底想要怎麼做因為我覺得區域的特色必須由區域自己形塑那當然我們會組一些輔導委員會來協助大家做一些的輔導跟溝通\n那這個是我們一步一步先往前這樣做因為它跟跨區域的部分是有關係的那在我們現在手上的政策我們就希望說朝這個方向來優化以上 先這樣說我想就是打造區域觀光新品牌也是\n行政院的一個施政的一個重點所以我覺得說就像剛剛署長所回答的事實上也就是說要建立一個觀光的一個品牌是非常一個重要的所以我覺得說我們台灣的觀光不應該還是只是停留在說\n這個日月潭阿里山就是這些舊有的這樣子的一個焦點我想台灣每一個地方都有它的一個特色從北到南那剛剛署長有提到說因為今年這個天災比較多那因為天災就是有一些區域性那其他的地方其實也是還有很多有待努力開發的一個旅遊的景點那以彰化來說就是一個\n一個很有潛力的一個地方那我覺得說比較可惜就是說他的這個品牌還有待去再強化那我們也希望說在這個部分我們觀光署希望能夠給予大力的一個協助那另外就是說對於我們觀光署在行銷台灣的這個\n觀光的資源景點我們看到說在中部地區他有提到說中部地區包括苗栗縣台中市彰化縣南投縣及雲林縣等五個縣市那就我們觀光署的這個網站的內容的描述裡面有提到每一個縣市的\n一個觀光的特色包括說南投的泰雅度假村 九族文化村雲林的劍湖山世界等等這一些都點到了唯獨就沒有講到彰化縣署長請問您怎麼看\n這個我們來改進那我在這邊想恭喜我們蘇維委員的彰化上個月我們的台灣設計展在彰化非常的成功那次的展覽基本上應該把我們彰化的不管是產業特色或人文特色都做了一個很不錯的梳理那這些都會成為我們未來在觀光宣傳裡面重要的養分跟題材\n是因為以這個我們的觀光的統計來看我們彰化縣的鹿港老街在這個國旅的景點裡面就是以這個1730萬人次可以說是第一名那八卦山國家風景區也以這個623萬人次拿下國家級的風景區第一名的一個殊榮所以彰化縣不是沒有一個具吸引力的這個景點可是在我們的網站裡面都沒有提到我覺得這個應該是很\n很不應該的地方\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.402 --> 00:03.029\n謝謝主席請主席邀請署長觀光署署長陳署長請\n\n00:16.257 --> 00:33.901\n好謝謝署長早那今天委員會針對就是900萬國際旅客達標的情形及旅宿業缺工情形振興改善措施來進行的專案報告那我們看到本來我們今年度我們設定的目標也是要\n\n00:34.461 --> 00:58.339\n千萬人次嘛不久前我們又下修了到900萬900萬的這個國際旅客那以目前來說1到7月的這個來台的一個旅客數才480幾萬嘛那在剩下的這個應該不到半年的時間您有信心有把握可以達標嗎900萬人次\n\n01:02.193 --> 01:28.593\n還要再努力一下下還要再努力那你有沒有去因為要努力的話你一定要有方向有策略而且要去檢討我們是不是有哪些問題要去解決我不曉得說我們署長這邊有沒有去相關的一個評估那我先再請教一下因為我們也是根據最近我們公布的113年來台旅客消費及動向的一個調查所以我們也可以看出來就是說\n\n01:29.654 --> 01:57.820\n對於目前來台的這個國際旅客有一些改變就是在疫情前2019年我們看到來台的旅客以觀光為主的有高達75.7%那到去這個2024年就是113年來台觀光的人數就只有66%那這個數字就是可以看得出來就是說以觀光為目的的來台的這個人數減少了然後就是\n\n01:59.100 --> 02:21.320\n這樣子的一個現象那當然就是我們要去檢討說為什麼就是來台的就是說要來觀光就是想要來玩的這個人會減少了是不是我們沒有很這個具有吸引力的一個觀光的吸引力或亮點吸引國外的旅客想要來\n\n02:22.521 --> 02:39.070\n那另外就是我們也看到在這個調查裡面有顯示到說在2019年來台的旅客裡面第一次來的有佔了57%那到這個2024年第一次來台的就\n\n02:39.910 --> 02:52.652\n衰退了10%就是只有46%所以就是說我們要怎樣去開拓這個新課員這個可能都是要去檢討跟有一些策略那是不是請署長可以回答\n\n02:54.090 --> 03:13.218\n好謝謝委員提問因為觀光是這樣它對大環境的敏感性特別的強我覺得這兩年台灣因為天災的關係確實也會造成外籍旅客對於台灣是否安全這件事情有產生一點疑慮我們看到的是這樣子\n\n03:14.338 --> 03:33.916\n那當然是說開發新課員一定非常重要所以像我們明年度我們明年度大概針對去年跟今年我們在國旅跟國際旅客上面遇到的一些困難我們提出新的一些政策想法包括說像國際旅客我們希望說用重遊客\n\n03:35.057 --> 03:52.679\n因為我們發現來過台灣的人來過台灣的旅客對台灣的喜好感是特別的強所以我們希望有機會邀請他回來等於是有老朋友帶新朋友再來回台灣這個是我們對新的客人希望用的一個策略是…\n\n03:54.621 --> 04:20.176\n對這個想法我本身是蠻肯定的因為我有同樣的一個這樣的問題就是剛好想問署長就是說對於再度來台的旅客我們有沒有相關的一個分析就是說在國際旅客來台灣的然後第二次第三次來台的這個比例有多高那對於未來我們的就是針對這個方向的空間還有多大因為我們比較這個日本\n\n04:23.178 --> 04:48.584\n日本是我們台灣人很想去的一個地方而且可以說是一去再去有的甚至一年去好幾次可能兩次三次四次我有聽朋友說他甚至每個月都去一次日本為什麼日本會有那麼高的一個吸引力讓台灣人甚至是其他國家的人很想去署長有沒有去想過\n\n04:53.976 --> 05:18.375\n乾淨舒服自在好買東西也是一種然後第二個是我覺得日本持續也都有推一些新的項目那這點也都是我們應該要再多更多一點的學習是好那其實在署長上任第一次的質詢我就有提到因為署長是來自業界曾經就是擔任過那個松菸這個\n\n05:22.479 --> 05:35.554\n園區的執行長所以當時你也成功的就是帶領這個團隊推動這個場域的轉型然後吸引了超過千萬人次的一個觀光旅客所以我想就是說我們也是希望借重你這樣子的一個\n\n05:37.396 --> 05:56.045\n經營的一個能力所以在你目前到任應該四個月了那在這四個月我不曉得說有新的做法嗎就是說到任之後到現在就是說想要翻轉台灣的觀光你有新的作為了嗎新的策略了嗎\n\n05:57.226 --> 06:19.481\n謝謝委員給我機會其實我覺得要去翻轉台灣的觀光當然也不是一速可乘當然第一個還是必須先了解問題在哪裡其實台灣的觀光我覺得政策相關的都有只是我們的系制度可能做得不到位那些都是需要花時間去調整溝通的我記得我也跟委員溝通過\n\n06:20.882 --> 06:45.582\n大家覺得台灣的景點或台灣的節慶沒特色那這件事情我們上次也講說我們希望每個地方找到自己的特色所以對於像相關的補助計畫我們也希望加強地方特色的節慶我們再給予多一點的補助這樣子讓每個地方都找到自己的特色那我也不太支持齊頭市平等的補助\n\n06:46.683 --> 07:11.760\n因為這樣的狀況大家都不會好所以還是希望說然後像我們的區域觀光就是我們觀光圈的區域觀光接下來也要採取的是競爭型的計畫是希望由地方主動來爭取他們到底想要怎麼做因為我覺得區域的特色必須由區域自己形塑那當然我們會組一些輔導委員會來協助大家做一些的輔導跟溝通\n\n07:13.561 --> 07:29.992\n那這個是我們一步一步先往前這樣做因為它跟跨區域的部分是有關係的那在我們現在手上的政策我們就希望說朝這個方向來優化以上先這樣說我想就是打造區域觀光新品牌也是\n\n07:30.572 --> 07:46.853\n行政院的一個施政的一個重點所以我覺得說就像剛剛署長所回答的事實上也就是說要建立一個觀光的一個品牌是非常一個重要的所以我覺得說我們台灣的觀光不應該還是只是停留在說\n\n07:48.074 --> 08:15.889\n這個日月潭阿里山就是這些舊有的這樣子的一個焦點我想台灣每一個地方都有它的一個特色從北到南那剛剛署長有提到說因為今年這個天災比較多那因為天災就是有一些區域性那其他的地方其實也是還有很多有待努力開發的一個旅遊的景點那以彰化來說就是一個\n\n08:16.869 --> 08:35.322\n一個很有潛力的一個地方那我覺得說比較可惜就是說他的這個品牌還有待去再強化那我們也希望說在這個部分我們觀光署希望能夠給予大力的一個協助那另外就是說對於我們觀光署在行銷台灣的這個\n\n08:38.224 --> 08:59.324\n觀光的資源景點我們看到說在中部地區他有提到說中部地區包括苗栗縣台中市彰化縣南投縣及雲林縣等五個縣市那就我們觀光署的這個網站的內容的描述裡面有提到每一個縣市的\n\n08:59.944 --> 09:12.498\n一個觀光的特色包括說南投的泰雅度假村九族文化村雲林的劍湖山世界等等這一些都點到了唯獨就沒有講到彰化縣署長請問您怎麼看\n\n09:16.435 --> 09:41.568\n這個我們來改進那我在這邊想恭喜我們蘇維委員的彰化上個月我們的台灣設計展在彰化非常的成功那次的展覽基本上應該把我們彰化的不管是產業特色或人文特色都做了一個很不錯的梳理那這些都會成為我們未來在觀光宣傳裡面重要的養分跟題材\n\n09:42.399 --> 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