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00:00:05,861\n謝謝主席有請次長跟觀光署長林次長陳署長請委員好\n\n2\n00:00:12,063 --> 00:00:37,205\n市長好在105年的時候發展觀光條例的修法有把一條納進去就是涉及原保地的要會同中央原住民事務主管機關來去嚴定所以在107年的時候交通部跟園民會就會嫌發布了一個觀光地區與風景特定區的一個保育費的收取辦法\n\n3\n00:00:37,985 --> 00:00:53,756\n那也就是說原鄉已經有一個法源可以來收取觀光保育費那也因此呢其實我過去在擔任屏東縣政府原民處長的時候有幫忙霧台鄉就是協助他們去成立自然人文生態景觀區\n\n4\n00:00:55,357 --> 00:01:18,499\n那目前應該是全國第一個那這個當中其實也有一個觀光保育費的收取辦法就是說前項公告收取觀光保育費的範圍涉及原保地的要先會商當地的原住民族事務主管機關所以我們看到在109年7月那霧台鄉它就劃設了自然人文生態景觀區\n\n5\n00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:48,482\n而且呢有開始收費那另外呢全國第一個離島成功案例呢在屏東小琉球也在113年的4月1號就是公告劃設那成為我們離島第一個觀光保育費的一個收取所以我想請教一下就是我們目前像這些跟在我們山區原保地的花東縱谷國家風景區山山啊日月潭啊東海岸阿里山\n\n6\n00:01:48,882 --> 00:01:52,624\n貿管處就是有沒有在收取觀光保育費好來署長請確實現在目前除了說你剛剛提的這兩個案例有之外其他部分目前並沒有但是我覺得如果國家要朝永續觀光發展確實是應該要研究一下那這件事情我們未來會在演繹\n\n7\n00:02:13,755 --> 00:02:41,509\n好謝謝署長那我希望就是後續也可以提供一些書面資料謝謝那另外一個呢其實在鄭文燦市長的時候他有爭取北橫國家風景區那我們的族人設計在這個北橫的有復興區還有宜蘭的大同鄉所以呢他們很關切那我在新聞上就是有看到就是那個卡關的旅遊桃園的關旅局是這樣回應\n\n8\n00:02:42,529 --> 00:03:01,927\n他說因為涉及到60處的原住民部落要做諮商同意然後呢又提到說要怎麼跟他們共管所以卡關很久所以我這邊是想要特別了解一下就是目前的進度如何有沒有什麼樣的想法\n\n9\n00:03:03,993 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謝謝那另外一個呢其實在鄭文燦市長的時候他有爭取北橫國家風景區那我們的族人設計在這個北橫的有復興區還有宜蘭的大同鄉所以呢他們很關切那我在新聞上就是有看到就是那個卡關的旅遊桃園的關旅局是這樣回應\n162529\t181927\t他說因為涉及到60處的原住民部落要做諮商同意然後呢又提到說要怎麼跟他們共管所以卡關很久所以我這邊是想要特別了解一下就是目前的進度如何有沒有什麼樣的想法\n183993\t211734\t報告委員有關於北橫國家風景區的深設那峽館內大概有60個原住民部落那其中我們最近的一個數據是有30個部落會議已經同意他們也有部落會議的機制存在那至於沒有的部分他們就說商請原民會也同意用諮商會議的方式去處理所以你們預期還要多久\n212555\t237438\t這個部分我們可能會跟桃園縣政府 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