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00:02:08,175\n跟統計跟委員報告從以台北來看的話台北其實高於35度的天數平均來講已經有70幾天了所以幾乎夏天的時間越來越長所以就我們的觀察來看整個全球暖化的過程裡面台灣也不例外台灣的溫度平均來講也越來越高\n\n8\n00:02:08,775 --> 00:02:34,460\n那不只是平地高而連高山玉山的溫度也是年年創新高所以這個趨勢就目前來看氣象署有一直在觀察那剛剛委員也特別提到說其實氣象署我們也跟衛福部國建署這邊也合作跟中研院這邊也合作就針對我們的熱傷害的這一部分我們也透過我們大數據去分析去預測出各個地方可能的熱傷害的情況\n\n9\n00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:52,701\n所以对高温的影响气象署非常关注也同时在结合不同领域在做这一方面的一些推广我在这边要提醒署长气候变迁它带来的极端气候包含这个高温世界各国的NGO或者是联合国其实都已经提出警告了\n\n10\n00:02:53,402 --> 00:03:11,774\n那國際勞工組織也相對的這樣的提醒世人說在高溫之下大量的曝曬以及這種重體力的工作其實都有嚴重的這樣一個公安的危險那我們看2024對比2023高溫的日數增加將近一倍\n\n11\n00:03:19,683 --> 00:03:45,860\n2021到2024熱傷害的人數也增加了快一倍那七月份的對比是增加了快三倍那兒童的熱傷害的這樣的一個危害更大風險性也更高了那針對這次修法的重點你認為有什麼要補充的或有要說明的來簡單說明一下\n\n12\n00:03:48,083 --> 00:04:13,539\n這次修法大概分了四個層面第一個層面我們把一些極端天氣的因子放到我們的災害性天氣的修法裡面同時也把氣候變遷的這一塊的項目也把氣候特別明定出來同時也把所謂的極端性天氣的這些樣態在以後將來要發布這些訊息的時候會把警報特報還有報告等等會把它明列的清楚\n\n13\n00:04:14,139 --> 00:04:33,215\n那為了要面對這一些極端天氣所帶來的影響在氣象法這一次的修法也包含了我們在氣象站跟氣象站資料收集的一些資料的定證跟校正這一部分我們把它納入法去把它納更完整最後就是我們如何去把這個氣象站把這個資料去把它活化到各個領域去去做氣候變遷\n\n14\n00:04:35,336 --> 00:05:03,072\n調適裡面所重要的氣候數據的跨域應用這一塊所以有關產業部分氣象署這一塊也特別會在氣象法裡面會做一些事我覺得這邊要特別嚴肅的提醒次長跟署長世界各國政府都針對高溫納入這種職業的風險而且建立這種熱傷害防護的策略台灣必須要加緊的跟上保障勞工的一個基本的安全\n\n15\n00:05:03,832 --> 00:05:16,245\n那我們現在來討論相關地震的問題中研院有指出我國民眾在地震發生的時候還是沒有確實的這些防護的措施\n\n16\n00:05:17,622 --> 00:05:45,578\n我們的民眾感覺不需要應變的佔49.8%那往建築物外面跑的只有15.7%那認為說以政府宣導的方式來保護自己只有8.3%的民眾採用而已那我國民眾這種防災意識的缺乏我看有幾個面向來總結第一個就災害發生的時候應變能力不足\n\n17\n00:05:46,516 --> 00:06:12,364\n第二對於住家附近的防災地點他是沒有辦法去掌握的這個我也提醒過多次第三沒有參加防災的相關的宣傳講座那中研院的調查也顯示出有百分之二十一的民眾他不知道政府有提供防災的手冊那或者是收到相關的防災的資訊\n\n18\n00:06:14,093 --> 00:06:34,718\n另外有近八成的民眾他沒有獲得充足的防災的資訊所以我是建議我們針對災害性的天氣危害頻率高社會的脆弱度的區域規劃較多場次的這種教育跟宣講應該將正確的防災措施\n\n19\n00:06:35,953 --> 00:06:55,683\n透過國家級警報國家級警報透過國家級警報來發出警報時來告知民眾而且我們要針對年長者的學習能力來開設專門的這種社區型的講座那你們對這種防災的宣傳你們有什麼精進的規劃嗎來說明一下\n\n20\n00:06:57,944 --> 00:07:14,677\n好的跟委員報告在防災的部分其實從老中青其實樣態都不太一樣像我們現在在學校部分我們就啟動了非常多道校服務那尤其是偏遠地區的道校服務那以過去來看的話在過去\n\n21\n00:07:15,838 --> 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國家級警報透過國家級警報來發出警報時來告知民眾而且我們要針對年長者的學習能力來開設專門的這種社區型的講座那你們對這種防災的宣傳你們有什麼精進的規劃嗎 來說明一下\n417944\t434677\t好的跟委員報告在防災的部分其實從老中青其實樣態都不太一樣像我們現在在學校部分我們就啟動了非常多道校服務那尤其是偏遠地區的道校服務那以過去來看的話在過去\n435838\t458022\t一兩年裡面我們大概有四五十場的這樣子各個氣象站目前都有去參加這樣子的服務除了這個之外在防災講習的部分除了氣象局自己辦之外其實我們也會配合各縣市政府的消防局還有災防辦這個地方去做我們防災的宣導剛剛委員也提到說對於這些弱勢族群特別要提供防災概念部分我們會朝這個方向去做\n458402\t470449\t那除了之外我們的報地震的臉書也不斷的在提供這一些相關的資訊給現在的年輕人去獲得這一些防災的意識 謝謝好 謝謝署長跟市長我們繼續努力 謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝蔡會長請一下次長跟署長請次長跟署長莊委好\n好市長跟署長我們台灣這幾年來因為極端氣候的問題所以造成高溫的天數也越來越多所以在2017年當時在\n推動相關的地震海欄的偵測同時我也要求針對氣象法將災害性的天氣納入高溫的這樣的一個狀況而且希望能夠推動高溫特報\n當然在2018年的時候氣象署是有依照我的建議不過並不是以高溫特報的這樣的一個專業名詞而是以高溫預警但是民眾一般都認為這是一個高溫的特報在媒體上也多所使用\n那在2018到2025我們也持續的針對高溫所造成的這樣的一個高溫的預警也好或者是熱危害的這樣的一個恍惚也多次的要求氣象局到現在氣象所要多所注意那\n我首先要請教一下署長針對這樣的一個高溫的現象你看這幾年來台灣的這樣的高溫的趨勢 天數氣象署有沒有做一個基本的注意跟歸納\n跟統計跟委員報告從以台北來看的話台北其實高於35度的天數平均來講已經有70幾天了所以幾乎夏天的時間越來越長所以就我們的觀察來看整個全球暖化的過程裡面台灣也不例外台灣的溫度平均來講也越來越高\n那不只是平地高而連高山玉山的溫度也是年年創新高所以這個趨勢就目前來看氣象署有一直在觀察那剛剛委員也特別提到說其實氣象署我們也跟衛福部國建署這邊也合作跟中研院這邊也合作就針對我們的熱傷害的這一部分我們也透過我們大數據去分析去預測出各個地方可能的熱傷害的情況\n所以对高温的影响气象署非常关注也同时在结合不同领域在做这一方面的一些推广我在这边要提醒署长气候变迁它带来的极端气候包含这个高温世界各国的NGO或者是联合国其实都已经提出警告了\n那國際勞工組織也相對的這樣的提醒世人說在高溫之下大量的曝曬以及這種重體力的工作其實都有嚴重的這樣一個公安的危險那我們看2024對比2023高溫的日數增加將近一倍\n2021到2024熱傷害的人數也增加了快一倍那七月份的對比是增加了快三倍那兒童的熱傷害的這樣的一個危害更大風險性也更高了那針對這次修法的重點你認為有什麼要補充的或有要說明的來簡單說明一下\n這次修法大概分了四個層面第一個層面我們把一些極端天氣的因子放到我們的災害性天氣的修法裡面同時也把氣候變遷的這一塊的項目也把氣候特別明定出來同時也把所謂的極端性天氣的這些樣態在以後將來要發布這些訊息的時候會把警報特報還有報告等等會把它明列的清楚\n那為了要面對這一些極端天氣所帶來的影響在氣象法這一次的修法也包含了我們在氣象站跟氣象站資料收集的一些資料的定證跟校正這一部分我們把它納入法去把它納更完整最後就是我們如何去把這個氣象站把這個資料去把它活化到各個領域去去做氣候變遷\n調適裡面所重要的氣候數據的跨域應用這一塊所以有關產業部分氣象署這一塊也特別會在氣象法裡面會做一些事我覺得這邊要特別嚴肅的提醒次長跟署長世界各國政府都針對高溫納入這種職業的風險而且建立這種熱傷害防護的策略台灣必須要加緊的跟上保障勞工的一個基本的安全\n那我們現在來討論相關地震的問題中研院有指出我國民眾在地震發生的時候還是沒有確實的這些防護的措施\n我們的民眾感覺不需要應變的佔49.8%那往建築物外面跑的只有15.7%那認為說以政府宣導的方式來保護自己只有8.3%的民眾採用而已那我國民眾這種防災意識的缺乏我看有幾個面向來總結第一個就災害發生的時候應變能力不足\n第二對於住家附近的防災地點他是沒有辦法去掌握的這個我也提醒過多次第三沒有參加防災的相關的宣傳講座那中研院的調查也顯示出有百分之二十一的民眾他不知道政府有提供防災的手冊那或者是收到相關的防災的資訊\n另外有近八成的民眾他沒有獲得充足的防災的資訊所以我是建議我們針對災害性的天氣危害頻率高社會的脆弱度的區域規劃較多場次的這種教育跟宣講應該將正確的防災措施\n透過國家級警報 國家級警報透過國家級警報來發出警報時來告知民眾而且我們要針對年長者的學習能力來開設專門的這種社區型的講座那你們對這種防災的宣傳你們有什麼精進的規劃嗎 來說明一下\n好的跟委員報告在防災的部分其實從老中青其實樣態都不太一樣像我們現在在學校部分我們就啟動了非常多道校服務那尤其是偏遠地區的道校服務那以過去來看的話在過去\n一兩年裡面我們大概有四五十場的這樣子各個氣象站目前都有去參加這樣子的服務除了這個之外在防災講習的部分除了氣象局自己辦之外其實我們也會配合各縣市政府的消防局還有災防辦這個地方去做我們防災的宣導剛剛委員也提到說對於這些弱勢族群特別要提供防災概念部分我們會朝這個方向去做\n那除了之外我們的報地震的臉書也不斷的在提供這一些相關的資訊給現在的年輕人去獲得這一些防災的意識 謝謝好 謝謝署長跟市長我們繼續努力 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.608 --> 00:09.553\n好謝謝蔡會長請一下次長跟署長請次長跟署長莊委好\n\n00:16.738 --> 00:29.653\n好市長跟署長我們台灣這幾年來因為極端氣候的問題所以造成高溫的天數也越來越多所以在2017年當時在\n\n00:33.297 --> 00:48.470\n推動相關的地震海欄的偵測同時我也要求針對氣象法將災害性的天氣納入高溫的這樣的一個狀況而且希望能夠推動高溫特報\n\n00:50.071 --> 01:08.163\n當然在2018年的時候氣象署是有依照我的建議不過並不是以高溫特報的這樣的一個專業名詞而是以高溫預警但是民眾一般都認為這是一個高溫的特報在媒體上也多所使用\n\n01:08.863 --> 01:29.604\n那在2018到2025我們也持續的針對高溫所造成的這樣的一個高溫的預警也好或者是熱危害的這樣的一個恍惚也多次的要求氣象局到現在氣象所要多所注意那\n\n01:31.005 --> 01:45.230\n我首先要請教一下署長針對這樣的一個高溫的現象你看這幾年來台灣的這樣的高溫的趨勢天數氣象署有沒有做一個基本的注意跟歸納\n\n01:47.912 --> 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