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00:02:36,837\n今年預計11月順利的話就會公告我想請教一下未來這樣子看起來就是應該是會確定納入未來如果說高溫納入災害性天氣的項目之後氣象署未來要如何提供民眾更及時明確的資訊\n\n8\n00:02:39,313 --> 00:03:03,298\n高溫的部分的話其實我們平常每天的預報就有去預報氣溫的高低溫但是如果說這個溫度到達某一個門檻的時候氣象署會依據這個門檻去發布我們紅橙黃的燈號也就是提醒民眾注意提醒民眾警戒提醒民眾這個溫度到達38度以後可能要做好適當的一些行動等等這一方面的氣象署會透過\n\n9\n00:03:04,358 --> 00:03:19,526\n現在是用天氣即時訊息發布如果氣象法通過之後氣象署會特別用氣象特報的方式來發布這樣子的訊息提供各界去參考跟調適是就是說照署長的回覆就是說會原本目前是用高溫即時資訊\n\n10\n00:03:21,127 --> 00:03:39,401\n那未來會用高溫特報的方式那我們的燈號目前就是用這個紅橙黃三個燈號目前就是高溫集思資訊是用這樣的燈號那未來如果是高溫特報的話在燈號上會有更細緻的一個差別嗎分別\n\n11\n00:03:41,104 --> 00:03:55,739\n跟委員報告一下其實這一些紅橙黃的這燈號在過去都是屬於大範圍的發布那我們將來呢會提供在特報會到鄉鎮尺度去那我們目前已經有提供這樣子訊息的那如果說變成特報的話會變成說每個鄉鎮市區裡面會有個別的發布因為\n\n12\n00:04:00,544 --> 00:04:18,869\n其實在溫度的變化在海洋部分沿海有些海溫的調節不過通常在內陸或者是台北盆地這種調節的情況就比較少所以我們會依據每一個地方的地理特性去發布這樣子的警訊讓當地的民眾能夠了解說當地的氣溫的變化的情形\n\n13\n00:04:19,369 --> 00:04:41,455\n是就是會以區域性來做一個公佈一個差別我覺得這應該對於民眾的一個需求應該會有更明確的一個幫助因為畢竟真的台灣雖然不大可是北中南的氣溫氣候也真的會有很大的一個明顯的一個差距\n\n14\n00:04:42,896 --> 00:05:03,076\n區域性的一個資訊的提供越細緻我想對於民眾生活上應該是會有比較更直接的一個幫助接下來我想請教一下就是我們看到署長在接受媒體訪問的時候有提到就是說有關這個專業人才的一個培育\n\n15\n00:05:04,929 --> 00:05:33,007\n就是說未來我們在氣象法裡面照署長的意思也是要來擬定一個專章就人才培訓的部分來擬定一個專章是不是這樣是的在人才培育這一部分其實是非常重要的因為在全球氣候變遷的過程裡面氣象資訊的跨域應用是需要有一些能夠去解讀氣象資訊的人去服務到不同領域去包含了農漁健康能源等等都需要有一些氣象\n\n16\n00:05:34,028 --> 00:05:51,709\n有背景的能力的人所以我們希望在氣象法裡面能夠有一個人才培育的專章裡面這專章裡面會有包含了一些訓練的一些有更多的委外的單位可以幫氣象署去訓練有相關於氣象解讀方面能力的人\n\n17\n00:05:52,510 --> 00:06:09,415\n另外能夠給一些類似給證書或者是一些訓練的證書這樣子的情況讓外界在將來產業要用到氣象專才的人能夠有一些參考資料這些氣象署也會同步來譬如說在日本他們就有氣象室\n\n18\n00:06:10,295 --> 00:06:31,398\n氣象室需要經過一個考試經過一個考試的能力鑑定能力鑑定之後有這個鑑定之後也許氣象署都可以給他一個證明這樣子將來在各個產業在利用這些氣象資訊的時候才能夠去用這些有被認定過的人這樣子對整個氣象的產業跨越的應用應該是有一個正面的幫助的\n\n19\n00:06:31,638 --> 00:06:59,292\n那我想請教就是說因為我們知道目前國內就是有針對這個氣象人才的一個培育的學校就是有四所學校就是台灣大學還有中央大學台灣師範大學及文化大學都有大氣科學系或者是大氣與地質科學系這樣子的一個專業的一個科系那我不曉得說未來我們氣象署想要培育的這樣的專業人才跟目前學校的這樣子的一個培育的管道有沒有\n\n20\n00:06:59,992 --> 00:07:24,228\n就是有什麼樣有什麼不一樣因為我不知道說因為我覺得氣象的領域真的是非常的專業那你要讓你要培育這麼多的人才那你要讓很多人願意來投入這個領域應該就是說我們這個領域要有很大的一個吸引力跟委員報告在學校基本上是在教一些天氣或者氣候的本質的職能\n\n21\n00:07:24,848 --> 00:07:53,895\n但是跨到實際的業界來講其實從氣象儀器的設計跟運作以及氣象預報能力的作業的能力以及氣象服務跨域的部分其實這些領域的東西都必須要有一些跨域的知識但是最基本的就是他要了解氣象訊息的解讀在學校教的部分剛剛委員所提到四個學校教是屬於氣象本質基本上面的本質的學能\n\n22\n00:07:54,435 --> 00:08:16,594\n可是在業界在用的這樣聽起來好像你們這樣子未來的一個氣象專業人才的培育必須利基於這些科系培育出來的學生做進一步的培訓其實我們跟學校單位都有很密切的合作因為大部分進到氣象署的這些同仁都是從學校畢業考上高普考進到氣象署的\n\n23\n00:08:18,715 --> 00:08:32,018\n我們也希望就是說因為這是一個非常專業的領域那我們希望說在這個領域我們要善加的利用有限的一個資源跟讓這些人才能夠得以發揮我們會結合學校一起來做這件事情謝謝謝謝陳樹越委員發言\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1907\t6450\t謝謝主席 請主席邀請次長還有李署長請次長跟署長委員早 次長早還有署長早安今天是針對氣象法的部分條文修正進行詢問我們看到有委員主張要把高溫納入\n27886\t44451\t天然災害的一個項目裡面我們也知道現在地球的軟化加劇就是氣溫都越來越高所以造成的天然災害也越來越多我們也看到因為現在地球軟化的關係所以夏天越來越熱高溫也越來越高\n46952\t75170\t所以我們也看到有一個數據統計的數據就是我們衛福部的國民健康署他的統計台灣近年來因為熱傷害就診的人次越來越多那在2014年的時候因為熱傷害而就醫的人次突破了2000人那在去年更是達到了3942人是歷年的最高那我們知道這個熱傷害就有包括熱痙攣熱昏厥還有熱衰竭和中暑等情況\n76471\t98940\t最嚴重就是這個中暑有可能致死所以這樣的情況也讓我們現在就是對於這個氣溫就是夏天的這個氣溫屢創新高這樣的現象就是越來越重視甚至有在討論說是不是要放高溫架的這樣子的一個議題所以我們今天也很就是高興就是看到我們有委員提出要把這個高溫\n99801\t107033\t納入天然災害的一個項目裡面那先請教一下我們氣象署這邊的一個態度好了\n109868\t138670\t這部分會 我是非常感謝委員主動來提議要遵守氣象署來做這件事情那我們現在其實我們的草案現在也在引領中預計在今年的11月就可以公告如果順利的話那希望說如果順利的話希望明年我們能夠這個如果氣象法能夠通過的話我們就可以馬上就來實施這件事情 謝謝就是明年嘛 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氣候也真的會有很大的一個明顯的一個差距\n282896\t303076\t區域性的一個資訊的提供越細緻我想對於民眾生活上應該是會有比較更直接的一個幫助接下來我想請教一下就是我們看到署長在接受媒體訪問的時候有提到就是說有關這個專業人才的一個培育\n304929\t333007\t就是說未來我們在氣象法裡面照署長的意思也是要來擬定一個專章就人才培訓的部分來擬定一個專章是不是這樣是的在人才培育這一部分其實是非常重要的因為在全球氣候變遷的過程裡面氣象資訊的跨域應用是需要有一些能夠去解讀氣象資訊的人去服務到不同領域去包含了農漁 健康 能源等等都需要有一些氣象\n334028\t351709\t有背景的能力的人所以我們希望在氣象法裡面能夠有一個人才培育的專章裡面這專章裡面會有包含了一些訓練的一些有更多的委外的單位可以幫氣象署去訓練有相關於氣象解讀方面能力的人\n352510\t369415\t另外能夠給一些類似給證書或者是一些訓練的證書這樣子的情況讓外界在將來產業要用到氣象專才的人能夠有一些參考資料這些氣象署也會同步來譬如說在日本他們就有氣象室\n370295\t391398\t氣象室需要經過一個考試經過一個考試的能力鑑定能力鑑定之後有這個鑑定之後也許氣象署都可以給他一個證明這樣子將來在各個產業在利用這些氣象資訊的時候才能夠去用這些有被認定過的人這樣子對整個氣象的產業跨越的應用應該是有一個正面的幫助的\n391638\t419292\t那我想請教就是說因為我們知道目前國內就是有針對這個氣象人才的一個培育的學校就是有四所學校就是台灣大學還有中央大學台灣師範大學及文化大學都有大氣科學系或者是大氣與地質科學系這樣子的一個專業的一個科系那我不曉得說未來我們氣象署想要培育的這樣的專業人才跟目前學校的這樣子的一個培育的管道有沒有\n419992\t444228\t就是有什麼樣有什麼不一樣因為我不知道說因為我覺得氣象的領域真的是非常的專業那你要讓你要培育這麼多的人才那你要讓很多人願意來投入這個領域應該就是說我們這個領域要有很大的一個吸引力跟委員報告在學校基本上是在教一些天氣或者氣候的本質的職能\n444848\t473895\t但是跨到實際的業界來講其實從氣象儀器的設計跟運作以及氣象預報能力的作業的能力以及氣象服務跨域的部分其實這些領域的東西都必須要有一些跨域的知識但是最基本的就是他要了解氣象訊息的解讀在學校教的部分剛剛委員所提到四個學校教是屬於氣象本質基本上面的本質的學能\n474435\t496594\t可是在業界在用的這樣聽起來好像你們這樣子未來的一個氣象專業人才的培育必須利基於這些科系培育出來的學生做進一步的培訓其實我們跟學校單位都有很密切的合作因為大部分進到氣象署的這些同仁都是從學校畢業考上高普考進到氣象署的\n498715\t512018\t我們也希望就是說因為這是一個非常專業的領域那我們希望說在這個領域我們要善加的利用有限的一個資源跟讓這些人才能夠得以發揮我們會結合學校一起來做這件事情謝謝謝謝陳樹越委員發言\n","txt":"謝謝主席 請主席邀請次長還有李署長請次長跟署長委員早 次長早還有署長早安今天是針對氣象法的部分條文修正進行詢問我們看到有委員主張要把高溫納入\n天然災害的一個項目裡面我們也知道現在地球的軟化加劇就是氣溫都越來越高所以造成的天然災害也越來越多我們也看到因為現在地球軟化的關係所以夏天越來越熱高溫也越來越高\n所以我們也看到有一個數據統計的數據就是我們衛福部的國民健康署他的統計台灣近年來因為熱傷害就診的人次越來越多那在2014年的時候因為熱傷害而就醫的人次突破了2000人那在去年更是達到了3942人是歷年的最高那我們知道這個熱傷害就有包括熱痙攣熱昏厥還有熱衰竭和中暑等情況\n最嚴重就是這個中暑有可能致死所以這樣的情況也讓我們現在就是對於這個氣溫就是夏天的這個氣溫屢創新高這樣的現象就是越來越重視甚至有在討論說是不是要放高溫架的這樣子的一個議題所以我們今天也很就是高興就是看到我們有委員提出要把這個高溫\n納入天然災害的一個項目裡面那先請教一下我們氣象署這邊的一個態度好了\n這部分會 我是非常感謝委員主動來提議要遵守氣象署來做這件事情那我們現在其實我們的草案現在也在引領中預計在今年的11月就可以公告如果順利的話那希望說如果順利的話希望明年我們能夠這個如果氣象法能夠通過的話我們就可以馬上就來實施這件事情 謝謝就是明年嘛 明年公告\n今年預計11月順利的話就會公告我想請教一下未來這樣子看起來就是應該是會確定納入未來如果說高溫納入災害性天氣的項目之後氣象署未來要如何提供民眾更及時明確的資訊\n高溫的部分的話其實我們平常每天的預報就有去預報氣溫的高低溫但是如果說這個溫度到達某一個門檻的時候氣象署會依據這個門檻去發布我們紅橙黃的燈號也就是提醒民眾注意提醒民眾警戒提醒民眾這個溫度到達38度以後可能要做好適當的一些行動等等這一方面的氣象署會透過\n現在是用天氣即時訊息發布如果氣象法通過之後氣象署會特別用氣象特報的方式來發布這樣子的訊息提供各界去參考跟調適是就是說照署長的回覆就是說會原本目前是用高溫即時資訊\n那未來會用高溫特報的方式那我們的燈號目前就是用這個紅橙黃三個燈號目前就是高溫集思資訊是用這樣的燈號那未來如果是高溫特報的話在燈號上會有更細緻的一個差別嗎 分別\n跟委員報告一下其實這一些紅橙黃的這燈號在過去都是屬於大範圍的發布那我們將來呢會提供在特報會到鄉鎮尺度去那我們目前已經有提供這樣子訊息的那如果說變成特報的話會變成說每個鄉鎮市區裡面會有個別的發布因為\n其實在溫度的變化在海洋部分沿海有些海溫的調節不過通常在內陸或者是台北盆地這種調節的情況就比較少所以我們會依據每一個地方的地理特性去發布這樣子的警訊讓當地的民眾能夠了解說當地的氣溫的變化的情形\n是 就是會以區域性來做一個公佈一個差別我覺得這應該對於民眾的一個需求應該會有更明確的一個幫助因為畢竟真的台灣雖然不大可是北中南的氣溫 氣候也真的會有很大的一個明顯的一個差距\n區域性的一個資訊的提供越細緻我想對於民眾生活上應該是會有比較更直接的一個幫助接下來我想請教一下就是我們看到署長在接受媒體訪問的時候有提到就是說有關這個專業人才的一個培育\n就是說未來我們在氣象法裡面照署長的意思也是要來擬定一個專章就人才培訓的部分來擬定一個專章是不是這樣是的在人才培育這一部分其實是非常重要的因為在全球氣候變遷的過程裡面氣象資訊的跨域應用是需要有一些能夠去解讀氣象資訊的人去服務到不同領域去包含了農漁 健康 能源等等都需要有一些氣象\n有背景的能力的人所以我們希望在氣象法裡面能夠有一個人才培育的專章裡面這專章裡面會有包含了一些訓練的一些有更多的委外的單位可以幫氣象署去訓練有相關於氣象解讀方面能力的人\n另外能夠給一些類似給證書或者是一些訓練的證書這樣子的情況讓外界在將來產業要用到氣象專才的人能夠有一些參考資料這些氣象署也會同步來譬如說在日本他們就有氣象室\n氣象室需要經過一個考試經過一個考試的能力鑑定能力鑑定之後有這個鑑定之後也許氣象署都可以給他一個證明這樣子將來在各個產業在利用這些氣象資訊的時候才能夠去用這些有被認定過的人這樣子對整個氣象的產業跨越的應用應該是有一個正面的幫助的\n那我想請教就是說因為我們知道目前國內就是有針對這個氣象人才的一個培育的學校就是有四所學校就是台灣大學還有中央大學台灣師範大學及文化大學都有大氣科學系或者是大氣與地質科學系這樣子的一個專業的一個科系那我不曉得說未來我們氣象署想要培育的這樣的專業人才跟目前學校的這樣子的一個培育的管道有沒有\n就是有什麼樣有什麼不一樣因為我不知道說因為我覺得氣象的領域真的是非常的專業那你要讓你要培育這麼多的人才那你要讓很多人願意來投入這個領域應該就是說我們這個領域要有很大的一個吸引力跟委員報告在學校基本上是在教一些天氣或者氣候的本質的職能\n但是跨到實際的業界來講其實從氣象儀器的設計跟運作以及氣象預報能力的作業的能力以及氣象服務跨域的部分其實這些領域的東西都必須要有一些跨域的知識但是最基本的就是他要了解氣象訊息的解讀在學校教的部分剛剛委員所提到四個學校教是屬於氣象本質基本上面的本質的學能\n可是在業界在用的這樣聽起來好像你們這樣子未來的一個氣象專業人才的培育必須利基於這些科系培育出來的學生做進一步的培訓其實我們跟學校單位都有很密切的合作因為大部分進到氣象署的這些同仁都是從學校畢業考上高普考進到氣象署的\n我們也希望就是說因為這是一個非常專業的領域那我們希望說在這個領域我們要善加的利用有限的一個資源跟讓這些人才能夠得以發揮我們會結合學校一起來做這件事情謝謝謝謝陳樹越委員發言\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.907 --> 00:06.450\n謝謝主席請主席邀請次長還有李署長請次長跟署長委員早次長早還有署長早安今天是針對氣象法的部分條文修正進行詢問我們看到有委員主張要把高溫納入\n\n00:27.886 --> 00:44.451\n天然災害的一個項目裡面我們也知道現在地球的軟化加劇就是氣溫都越來越高所以造成的天然災害也越來越多我們也看到因為現在地球軟化的關係所以夏天越來越熱高溫也越來越高\n\n00:46.952 --> 01:15.170\n所以我們也看到有一個數據統計的數據就是我們衛福部的國民健康署他的統計台灣近年來因為熱傷害就診的人次越來越多那在2014年的時候因為熱傷害而就醫的人次突破了2000人那在去年更是達到了3942人是歷年的最高那我們知道這個熱傷害就有包括熱痙攣熱昏厥還有熱衰竭和中暑等情況\n\n01:16.471 --> 01:38.940\n最嚴重就是這個中暑有可能致死所以這樣的情況也讓我們現在就是對於這個氣溫就是夏天的這個氣溫屢創新高這樣的現象就是越來越重視甚至有在討論說是不是要放高溫架的這樣子的一個議題所以我們今天也很就是高興就是看到我們有委員提出要把這個高溫\n\n01:39.801 --> 01:47.033\n納入天然災害的一個項目裡面那先請教一下我們氣象署這邊的一個態度好了\n\n01:49.868 --> 02:18.670\n這部分會我是非常感謝委員主動來提議要遵守氣象署來做這件事情那我們現在其實我們的草案現在也在引領中預計在今年的11月就可以公告如果順利的話那希望說如果順利的話希望明年我們能夠這個如果氣象法能夠通過的話我們就可以馬上就來實施這件事情謝謝就是明年嘛明年公告\n\n02:19.510 --> 02:36.837\n今年預計11月順利的話就會公告我想請教一下未來這樣子看起來就是應該是會確定納入未來如果說高溫納入災害性天氣的項目之後氣象署未來要如何提供民眾更及時明確的資訊\n\n02:39.313 --> 03:03.298\n高溫的部分的話其實我們平常每天的預報就有去預報氣溫的高低溫但是如果說這個溫度到達某一個門檻的時候氣象署會依據這個門檻去發布我們紅橙黃的燈號也就是提醒民眾注意提醒民眾警戒提醒民眾這個溫度到達38度以後可能要做好適當的一些行動等等這一方面的氣象署會透過\n\n03:04.358 --> 03:19.526\n現在是用天氣即時訊息發布如果氣象法通過之後氣象署會特別用氣象特報的方式來發布這樣子的訊息提供各界去參考跟調適是就是說照署長的回覆就是說會原本目前是用高溫即時資訊\n\n03:21.127 --> 03:39.401\n那未來會用高溫特報的方式那我們的燈號目前就是用這個紅橙黃三個燈號目前就是高溫集思資訊是用這樣的燈號那未來如果是高溫特報的話在燈號上會有更細緻的一個差別嗎分別\n\n03:41.104 --> 03:55.739\n跟委員報告一下其實這一些紅橙黃的這燈號在過去都是屬於大範圍的發布那我們將來呢會提供在特報會到鄉鎮尺度去那我們目前已經有提供這樣子訊息的那如果說變成特報的話會變成說每個鄉鎮市區裡面會有個別的發布因為\n\n04:00.544 --> 04:18.869\n其實在溫度的變化在海洋部分沿海有些海溫的調節不過通常在內陸或者是台北盆地這種調節的情況就比較少所以我們會依據每一個地方的地理特性去發布這樣子的警訊讓當地的民眾能夠了解說當地的氣溫的變化的情形\n\n04:19.369 --> 04:41.455\n是就是會以區域性來做一個公佈一個差別我覺得這應該對於民眾的一個需求應該會有更明確的一個幫助因為畢竟真的台灣雖然不大可是北中南的氣溫氣候也真的會有很大的一個明顯的一個差距\n\n04:42.896 --> 05:03.076\n區域性的一個資訊的提供越細緻我想對於民眾生活上應該是會有比較更直接的一個幫助接下來我想請教一下就是我們看到署長在接受媒體訪問的時候有提到就是說有關這個專業人才的一個培育\n\n05:04.929 --> 05:33.007\n就是說未來我們在氣象法裡面照署長的意思也是要來擬定一個專章就人才培訓的部分來擬定一個專章是不是這樣是的在人才培育這一部分其實是非常重要的因為在全球氣候變遷的過程裡面氣象資訊的跨域應用是需要有一些能夠去解讀氣象資訊的人去服務到不同領域去包含了農漁健康能源等等都需要有一些氣象\n\n05:34.028 --> 05:51.709\n有背景的能力的人所以我們希望在氣象法裡面能夠有一個人才培育的專章裡面這專章裡面會有包含了一些訓練的一些有更多的委外的單位可以幫氣象署去訓練有相關於氣象解讀方面能力的人\n\n05:52.510 --> 06:09.415\n另外能夠給一些類似給證書或者是一些訓練的證書這樣子的情況讓外界在將來產業要用到氣象專才的人能夠有一些參考資料這些氣象署也會同步來譬如說在日本他們就有氣象室\n\n06:10.295 --> 06:31.398\n氣象室需要經過一個考試經過一個考試的能力鑑定能力鑑定之後有這個鑑定之後也許氣象署都可以給他一個證明這樣子將來在各個產業在利用這些氣象資訊的時候才能夠去用這些有被認定過的人這樣子對整個氣象的產業跨越的應用應該是有一個正面的幫助的\n\n06:31.638 --> 06:59.292\n那我想請教就是說因為我們知道目前國內就是有針對這個氣象人才的一個培育的學校就是有四所學校就是台灣大學還有中央大學台灣師範大學及文化大學都有大氣科學系或者是大氣與地質科學系這樣子的一個專業的一個科系那我不曉得說未來我們氣象署想要培育的這樣的專業人才跟目前學校的這樣子的一個培育的管道有沒有\n\n06:59.992 --> 07:24.228\n就是有什麼樣有什麼不一樣因為我不知道說因為我覺得氣象的領域真的是非常的專業那你要讓你要培育這麼多的人才那你要讓很多人願意來投入這個領域應該就是說我們這個領域要有很大的一個吸引力跟委員報告在學校基本上是在教一些天氣或者氣候的本質的職能\n\n07:24.848 --> 07:53.895\n但是跨到實際的業界來講其實從氣象儀器的設計跟運作以及氣象預報能力的作業的能力以及氣象服務跨域的部分其實這些領域的東西都必須要有一些跨域的知識但是最基本的就是他要了解氣象訊息的解讀在學校教的部分剛剛委員所提到四個學校教是屬於氣象本質基本上面的本質的學能\n\n07:54.435 --> 08:16.594\n可是在業界在用的這樣聽起來好像你們這樣子未來的一個氣象專業人才的培育必須利基於這些科系培育出來的學生做進一步的培訓其實我們跟學校單位都有很密切的合作因為大部分進到氣象署的這些同仁都是從學校畢業考上高普考進到氣象署的\n\n08:18.715 --> 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