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00:03:28,842\n跟委員報告這個案子的確是一波三折那我們也覺得這個跟委員一樣我們認為從南海這邊的海嘯跟地震對我們台灣南部有非常大的影響所以我們持續的在推動這個案子那過去呢程族委員所說的的確是在標案上面其實能夠做這個海染的廠商也並不多所以我們也接觸了美國日本甚至歐洲這一些廠商\n\n11\n00:03:29,702 --> 00:03:57,539\n那在今年我們也提提這個預計要提第三次的修正計畫那照目前來看我們跟國內的廠商跟國外廠商是有有些意願的廠商願意來跟我們洽談然後同時也有報價進來所以這一部分我們也依據這一些相關的資訊在提報修正計畫希望委員能夠支持讓我們這個案子能夠持續的在進行部長來補充說明\n\n12\n00:04:00,608 --> 00:04:21,477\n我們第三次的這個修正也積極在辦理那並且我們已經有尋求適當的廠商大家的意願其實跟過去比起來是比較有啦所以這次我們比較有把握那只要大院能夠支持我們的預算我相信這個海嵐的這個鋪設的進展就會速度比較快那我們也會爭取行政院這方面的支持\n\n13\n00:04:21,917 --> 00:04:47,830\n好謝謝那我接下來請教一下林益進部長針對海嵐遭破壞的事件頻傳那台灣通訊方面海嵐總共有14條的國際海嵐有10條的國內海嵐當然我們還要再包含地震測報方面的這種媽祖計畫的相關的海嵐那國安局統計2019年到2023年每年海嵐遭破壞的次數達到7至8次\n\n14\n00:04:50,811 --> 00:05:15,784\n是2025年一至四月就已經出現五次了那當然中國破壞我國海南主要有四種形態不管是抽砂船漁船貨輪或者是第三國籍的這種權利輪那因為相關的船籍比較模糊來規避相關的這種破壞的這種狀況那我請教一下\n\n15\n00:05:16,624 --> 00:05:37,163\n部長我們針對目前的這些狀況有沒有進一步的掌握或你有要做進一步的說明是關於這個海嵐方面我們就是從那個事前事中以及事後分別做管理及改進那就是在事前我們要做好監控還有那個預警就是說如果我們就會\n\n16\n00:05:38,644 --> 00:05:54,000\n因為這個海嵐它的那個維運事實上大部分都是民間的公司在做的那我們會督促像是中華電信這些民間的公司確實做好這個預警然後發生事情的時候要及時通報然後我們速發部也會在我們的網站上\n\n17\n00:05:54,580 --> 00:06:15,883\n就是公布現在我們周遭海瀾不管是國際海瀾或者是國內海瀾的狀況然後事情發生後我們第一個就是要迅速恢復通訊那迅速恢復通訊除了就是說海瀾通常都會有備援我們在不管是國際海瀾或者是國內海瀾都不只是一條那我們就盡快通知業者要求業者\n\n18\n00:06:16,423 --> 00:06:32,310\n就是利用倍元的海嵐就是讓那個民眾還是可以持續使用網路那再來我們也當然有微波還有就是最後一道防線當然就是我們的低軌衛星還有中軌衛星等等然後在事後就很重要一點就是我們要究責把這個壞那個\n\n19\n00:06:35,151 --> 00:07:00,542\n那個壞人把他抓起來而且要做懲罰就是要讓他們以後不敢再做這些事情那今天我們這個就是懇請委員支持謝謝部長剛才提到救責的問題其實海南破壞他的證據取得是非常困難是那救責也不容易求償也非常的困難所以主要是國際法他的法規的規定當然海洋法的規範是各國法規管轄的範圍內\n\n20\n00:07:02,003 --> 00:07:29,008\n只有臨海之內那公海船舶國籍所在國他才有管轄權那需要船機國或是船主同意你才能登船檢查另外也追蹤困難證據取得也困難損害球場是更加的困難因為證據力不足無法確認他是否是故意的破壞或是船機國的問題或是船長無力償付的問題這些都是無法實質的這種要求賠償\n\n21\n00:07:32,409 --> 00:07:59,583\n或者是救者我們看到我有幾個具體的建議我們未來這種海欄鋪設前中後應該要建立損害的這種管理機制事前我們必須要針對海欄的鋪設地點詳細的調查針對深度跟環境的不同我們來設定不同的防護層級也要參考國際案例納入\n\n22\n00:08:01,685 --> 00:08:16,982\n這種光纖即時的監測的技術打鬧的過程使用ROV來進行水下攝影保存影像的這種證據另外市中我們要強化海域的管理跟各單位強化這種宣傳進行\n\n23\n00:08:18,544 --> 00:08:35,845\n证据收集的这种机制那事后我们要征涉法国要征涉船舶扣押及资产扣押的机制来强化球场的能力这个请数位部来加强这样的一个作业是谢谢委员的指导与支持谢谢\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4663\t7585\t謝謝何欣淳主席請一下陳世凱部長 呂國成署長 林益晉部長來 兩位部長跟署長請\n17578\t32851\t我先就教於陳士凱部長跟呂國成署長有關於地震的國家級警報關係到人民的生命財產安全的一個重要的保障基礎那在過去我們針對\n34915\t52134\t國家體警報在當初10年啦細胞廣播系統也沒有建置手機的內部的相關軟體建置也沒有形成一個規格那在國家體警報設置之後那除了\n53411\t70260\t國家級警報的這樣的一個測試以及相關的誤報的調整等等其實最重要就是海底電纜的鋪設那在過去他其實有三期已經施作那這個海底\n71701\t87701\t電纜的鋪設各起都有他各自的專業名稱但是通稱就叫做媽祖計劃媽祖結尾了因為媽祖都是神威謙卑不必重生大家都合家平安所以通稱為媽祖計劃\n90906\t101066\t這個媽祖計畫到第四期是一個重要的階段就是我們第一期 第二期 第三期從東北角延伸到\n102739\t130928\t台灣的南部在屏東的仿山上岸那接下來我們更要從屏東的仿山往南延伸到這個菲律賓的呂宋島因為馬尼拉海溝的這個地震是所有地震專家大家所擔憂的未來重大的地震以及海嘯這對南部民眾的生命產產安全是一個重要的威脅所以在這樣的一個\n132328\t152505\t騎乘裡面我們看到本來是預設要800公里後來因為我們碰到原物料的漲價還有南海是一個衝突的高風險區域所以造成了很多的流標廢標總共前後已經有12次的流廢標\n153846\t180617\t那我現在先請教一下署長我們針對流廢標現在在做第三次的一個招標的修正那我們針對原物料以及南海高風險的衝突造成很多國際的廠商他擔憂這個衝突的風險所以也沒有這個投標的意願那過去也因為標價過高跟風險衝突的因素我們現在要做怎樣的修正\n181757\t208842\t跟委員報告這個案子的確是一波三折那我們也覺得這個跟委員一樣我們認為從南海這邊的海嘯跟地震對我們台灣南部有非常大的影響所以我們持續的在推動這個案子那過去呢程族委員所說的的確是在標案上面其實能夠做這個海染的廠商也並不多所以我們也接觸了美國日本甚至歐洲這一些廠商\n209702\t237539\t那在今年我們也提提這個預計要提第三次的修正計畫那照目前來看我們跟國內的廠商跟國外廠商是有有些意願的廠商願意來跟我們洽談然後同時也有報價進來所以這一部分我們也依據這一些相關的資訊在提報修正計畫希望委員能夠支持讓我們這個案子能夠持續的在進行部長來補充說明\n240608\t261477\t我們第三次的這個修正也積極在辦理那並且我們已經有尋求適當的廠商 大家的意願其實跟過去比起來是比較有啦所以這次我們比較有把握那只要大院能夠支持我們的預算我相信這個海嵐的這個鋪設的進展就會速度比較快那我們也會爭取行政院這方面的支持\n261917\t287830\t好 謝謝那我接下來請教一下林益進部長針對海嵐遭破壞的事件頻傳那台灣通訊方面海嵐總共有14條的國際海嵐有10條的國內海嵐當然我們還要再包含地震測報方面的這種媽祖計畫的相關的海嵐那國安局統計2019年到2023年每年海嵐遭破壞的次數達到7至8次\n290811\t315784\t是2025年一至四月就已經出現五次了那當然中國破壞我國海南主要有四種形態不管是抽砂船漁船貨輪或者是第三國籍的這種權利輪那因為相關的船籍比較模糊來規避相關的這種破壞的這種狀況那我請教一下\n316624\t337163\t部長我們針對目前的這些狀況有沒有進一步的掌握或你有要做進一步的說明是 關於這個海嵐方面我們就是從那個事前事中以及事後分別做管理及改進那就是在事前我們要做好監控還有那個預警就是說如果我們就會\n338644\t354000\t因為這個海嵐它的那個維運事實上大部分都是民間的公司在做的那我們會督促像是中華電信這些民間的公司確實做好這個預警然後發生事情的時候要及時通報然後我們速發部也會在我們的網站上\n354580\t375883\t就是公布現在我們周遭海瀾不管是國際海瀾或者是國內海瀾的狀況然後事情發生後我們第一個就是要迅速恢復通訊那迅速恢復通訊除了就是說海瀾通常都會有備援我們在不管是國際海瀾或者是國內海瀾都不只是一條那我們就盡快通知業者 要求業者\n376423\t392310\t就是利用倍元的海嵐就是讓那個民眾還是可以持續使用網路那再來我們也當然有微波還有就是最後一道防線當然就是我們的低軌衛星還有中軌衛星等等然後在事後就很重要一點就是我們要究責把這個壞那個\n395151\t420542\t那個壞人把他抓起來而且要做懲罰就是要讓他們以後不敢再做這些事情那今天我們這個就是懇請委員支持謝謝部長剛才提到救責的問題其實海南破壞他的證據取得是非常困難是那救責也不容易求償也非常的困難所以主要是國際法他的法規的規定當然海洋法的規範是各國法規管轄的範圍內\n422003\t449008\t只有臨海之內那公海船舶國籍所在國他才有管轄權那需要船機國或是船主同意你才能登船檢查另外也追蹤困難證據取得也困難損害球場是更加的困難因為證據力不足無法確認他是否是故意的破壞或是船機國的問題或是船長無力償付的問題這些都是無法實質的這種要求賠償\n452409\t479583\t或者是救者我們看到我有幾個具體的建議我們未來這種海欄鋪設前中後應該要建立損害的這種管理機制事前我們必須要針對海欄的鋪設地點詳細的調查針對深度跟環境的不同我們來設定不同的防護層級也要參考國際案例納入\n481685\t496982\t這種光纖即時的監測的技術打鬧的過程使用ROV來進行水下攝影保存影像的這種證據另外市中我們要強化海域的管理跟各單位強化這種宣傳進行\n498544\t515845\t证据收集的这种机制那事后我们要征涉法国要征涉船舶扣押及资产扣押的机制来强化球场的能力这个请数位部来加强这样的一个作业是 谢谢委员的指导与支持谢谢\n","txt":"謝謝何欣淳主席請一下陳世凱部長 呂國成署長 林益晉部長來 兩位部長跟署長請\n我先就教於陳士凱部長跟呂國成署長有關於地震的國家級警報關係到人民的生命財產安全的一個重要的保障基礎那在過去我們針對\n國家體警報在當初10年啦細胞廣播系統也沒有建置手機的內部的相關軟體建置也沒有形成一個規格那在國家體警報設置之後那除了\n國家級警報的這樣的一個測試以及相關的誤報的調整等等其實最重要就是海底電纜的鋪設那在過去他其實有三期已經施作那這個海底\n電纜的鋪設各起都有他各自的專業名稱但是通稱就叫做媽祖計劃媽祖結尾了因為媽祖都是神威謙卑不必重生大家都合家平安所以通稱為媽祖計劃\n這個媽祖計畫到第四期是一個重要的階段就是我們第一期 第二期 第三期從東北角延伸到\n台灣的南部在屏東的仿山上岸那接下來我們更要從屏東的仿山往南延伸到這個菲律賓的呂宋島因為馬尼拉海溝的這個地震是所有地震專家大家所擔憂的未來重大的地震以及海嘯這對南部民眾的生命產產安全是一個重要的威脅所以在這樣的一個\n騎乘裡面我們看到本來是預設要800公里後來因為我們碰到原物料的漲價還有南海是一個衝突的高風險區域所以造成了很多的流標廢標總共前後已經有12次的流廢標\n那我現在先請教一下署長我們針對流廢標現在在做第三次的一個招標的修正那我們針對原物料以及南海高風險的衝突造成很多國際的廠商他擔憂這個衝突的風險所以也沒有這個投標的意願那過去也因為標價過高跟風險衝突的因素我們現在要做怎樣的修正\n跟委員報告這個案子的確是一波三折那我們也覺得這個跟委員一樣我們認為從南海這邊的海嘯跟地震對我們台灣南部有非常大的影響所以我們持續的在推動這個案子那過去呢程族委員所說的的確是在標案上面其實能夠做這個海染的廠商也並不多所以我們也接觸了美國日本甚至歐洲這一些廠商\n那在今年我們也提提這個預計要提第三次的修正計畫那照目前來看我們跟國內的廠商跟國外廠商是有有些意願的廠商願意來跟我們洽談然後同時也有報價進來所以這一部分我們也依據這一些相關的資訊在提報修正計畫希望委員能夠支持讓我們這個案子能夠持續的在進行部長來補充說明\n我們第三次的這個修正也積極在辦理那並且我們已經有尋求適當的廠商 大家的意願其實跟過去比起來是比較有啦所以這次我們比較有把握那只要大院能夠支持我們的預算我相信這個海嵐的這個鋪設的進展就會速度比較快那我們也會爭取行政院這方面的支持\n好 謝謝那我接下來請教一下林益進部長針對海嵐遭破壞的事件頻傳那台灣通訊方面海嵐總共有14條的國際海嵐有10條的國內海嵐當然我們還要再包含地震測報方面的這種媽祖計畫的相關的海嵐那國安局統計2019年到2023年每年海嵐遭破壞的次數達到7至8次\n是2025年一至四月就已經出現五次了那當然中國破壞我國海南主要有四種形態不管是抽砂船漁船貨輪或者是第三國籍的這種權利輪那因為相關的船籍比較模糊來規避相關的這種破壞的這種狀況那我請教一下\n部長我們針對目前的這些狀況有沒有進一步的掌握或你有要做進一步的說明是 關於這個海嵐方面我們就是從那個事前事中以及事後分別做管理及改進那就是在事前我們要做好監控還有那個預警就是說如果我們就會\n因為這個海嵐它的那個維運事實上大部分都是民間的公司在做的那我們會督促像是中華電信這些民間的公司確實做好這個預警然後發生事情的時候要及時通報然後我們速發部也會在我們的網站上\n就是公布現在我們周遭海瀾不管是國際海瀾或者是國內海瀾的狀況然後事情發生後我們第一個就是要迅速恢復通訊那迅速恢復通訊除了就是說海瀾通常都會有備援我們在不管是國際海瀾或者是國內海瀾都不只是一條那我們就盡快通知業者 要求業者\n就是利用倍元的海嵐就是讓那個民眾還是可以持續使用網路那再來我們也當然有微波還有就是最後一道防線當然就是我們的低軌衛星還有中軌衛星等等然後在事後就很重要一點就是我們要究責把這個壞那個\n那個壞人把他抓起來而且要做懲罰就是要讓他們以後不敢再做這些事情那今天我們這個就是懇請委員支持謝謝部長剛才提到救責的問題其實海南破壞他的證據取得是非常困難是那救責也不容易求償也非常的困難所以主要是國際法他的法規的規定當然海洋法的規範是各國法規管轄的範圍內\n只有臨海之內那公海船舶國籍所在國他才有管轄權那需要船機國或是船主同意你才能登船檢查另外也追蹤困難證據取得也困難損害球場是更加的困難因為證據力不足無法確認他是否是故意的破壞或是船機國的問題或是船長無力償付的問題這些都是無法實質的這種要求賠償\n或者是救者我們看到我有幾個具體的建議我們未來這種海欄鋪設前中後應該要建立損害的這種管理機制事前我們必須要針對海欄的鋪設地點詳細的調查針對深度跟環境的不同我們來設定不同的防護層級也要參考國際案例納入\n這種光纖即時的監測的技術打鬧的過程使用ROV來進行水下攝影保存影像的這種證據另外市中我們要強化海域的管理跟各單位強化這種宣傳進行\n证据收集的这种机制那事后我们要征涉法国要征涉船舶扣押及资产扣押的机制来强化球场的能力这个请数位部来加强这样的一个作业是 谢谢委员的指导与支持谢谢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.663 --> 00:07.585\n謝謝何欣淳主席請一下陳世凱部長呂國成署長林益晉部長來兩位部長跟署長請\n\n00:17.578 --> 00:32.851\n我先就教於陳士凱部長跟呂國成署長有關於地震的國家級警報關係到人民的生命財產安全的一個重要的保障基礎那在過去我們針對\n\n00:34.915 --> 00:52.134\n國家體警報在當初10年啦細胞廣播系統也沒有建置手機的內部的相關軟體建置也沒有形成一個規格那在國家體警報設置之後那除了\n\n00:53.411 --> 01:10.260\n國家級警報的這樣的一個測試以及相關的誤報的調整等等其實最重要就是海底電纜的鋪設那在過去他其實有三期已經施作那這個海底\n\n01:11.701 --> 01:27.701\n電纜的鋪設各起都有他各自的專業名稱但是通稱就叫做媽祖計劃媽祖結尾了因為媽祖都是神威謙卑不必重生大家都合家平安所以通稱為媽祖計劃\n\n01:30.906 --> 01:41.066\n這個媽祖計畫到第四期是一個重要的階段就是我們第一期第二期第三期從東北角延伸到\n\n01:42.739 --> 02:10.928\n台灣的南部在屏東的仿山上岸那接下來我們更要從屏東的仿山往南延伸到這個菲律賓的呂宋島因為馬尼拉海溝的這個地震是所有地震專家大家所擔憂的未來重大的地震以及海嘯這對南部民眾的生命產產安全是一個重要的威脅所以在這樣的一個\n\n02:12.328 --> 02:32.505\n騎乘裡面我們看到本來是預設要800公里後來因為我們碰到原物料的漲價還有南海是一個衝突的高風險區域所以造成了很多的流標廢標總共前後已經有12次的流廢標\n\n02:33.846 --> 03:00.617\n那我現在先請教一下署長我們針對流廢標現在在做第三次的一個招標的修正那我們針對原物料以及南海高風險的衝突造成很多國際的廠商他擔憂這個衝突的風險所以也沒有這個投標的意願那過去也因為標價過高跟風險衝突的因素我們現在要做怎樣的修正\n\n03:01.757 --> 03:28.842\n跟委員報告這個案子的確是一波三折那我們也覺得這個跟委員一樣我們認為從南海這邊的海嘯跟地震對我們台灣南部有非常大的影響所以我們持續的在推動這個案子那過去呢程族委員所說的的確是在標案上面其實能夠做這個海染的廠商也並不多所以我們也接觸了美國日本甚至歐洲這一些廠商\n\n03:29.702 --> 03:57.539\n那在今年我們也提提這個預計要提第三次的修正計畫那照目前來看我們跟國內的廠商跟國外廠商是有有些意願的廠商願意來跟我們洽談然後同時也有報價進來所以這一部分我們也依據這一些相關的資訊在提報修正計畫希望委員能夠支持讓我們這個案子能夠持續的在進行部長來補充說明\n\n04:00.608 --> 04:21.477\n我們第三次的這個修正也積極在辦理那並且我們已經有尋求適當的廠商大家的意願其實跟過去比起來是比較有啦所以這次我們比較有把握那只要大院能夠支持我們的預算我相信這個海嵐的這個鋪設的進展就會速度比較快那我們也會爭取行政院這方面的支持\n\n04:21.917 --> 04:47.830\n好謝謝那我接下來請教一下林益進部長針對海嵐遭破壞的事件頻傳那台灣通訊方面海嵐總共有14條的國際海嵐有10條的國內海嵐當然我們還要再包含地震測報方面的這種媽祖計畫的相關的海嵐那國安局統計2019年到2023年每年海嵐遭破壞的次數達到7至8次\n\n04:50.811 --> 05:15.784\n是2025年一至四月就已經出現五次了那當然中國破壞我國海南主要有四種形態不管是抽砂船漁船貨輪或者是第三國籍的這種權利輪那因為相關的船籍比較模糊來規避相關的這種破壞的這種狀況那我請教一下\n\n05:16.624 --> 05:37.163\n部長我們針對目前的這些狀況有沒有進一步的掌握或你有要做進一步的說明是關於這個海嵐方面我們就是從那個事前事中以及事後分別做管理及改進那就是在事前我們要做好監控還有那個預警就是說如果我們就會\n\n05:38.644 --> 05:54.000\n因為這個海嵐它的那個維運事實上大部分都是民間的公司在做的那我們會督促像是中華電信這些民間的公司確實做好這個預警然後發生事情的時候要及時通報然後我們速發部也會在我們的網站上\n\n05:54.580 --> 06:15.883\n就是公布現在我們周遭海瀾不管是國際海瀾或者是國內海瀾的狀況然後事情發生後我們第一個就是要迅速恢復通訊那迅速恢復通訊除了就是說海瀾通常都會有備援我們在不管是國際海瀾或者是國內海瀾都不只是一條那我們就盡快通知業者要求業者\n\n06:16.423 --> 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