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00:02:19,284\n是對於這個海欄的安全我們基本上是分為事前事中以及事後這三方面來管理首先就是在那個海欄發生斷裂的這種狀況之前就是沒有狀況的時候我們要做好監控然後我們要做好各種備援就是加強這個韌性譬如說我們會把現在新設的海欄我們加上盔甲\n\n7\n00:02:19,804 --> 00:02:46,294\n然後把那個新設的海欄埋得也比較深以前埋得比較淺現在埋得比較深那另外就是適中就是如果發現海欄斷掉的話那我們必須立即啟動這個備援設施因為我們知道我們除了那個光纜本身就會有很多條彼此可以備援以外另外我們有那個微波國內譬如說台灣跟馬祖有微波那另外還有我們低軌衛星中軌衛星甚至於是同步衛星這個都是備援\n\n8\n00:02:47,154 --> 00:03:12,579\n然後我們在事中我們必須盡快的把這個備援把它放上去讓民眾的使用網路不受影響然後在事後我們就是最重要是要究責那今天我們之所以會提出這個法案的修訂就是想要究責這部分我們必須把那些壞人抓起來那有責任就有責任然後他如果是用他的船來進行這個破壞我們就要把他的船扣押起來這樣子\n\n9\n00:03:13,659 --> 00:03:31,935\n那些对于境外敌对势力的灰色袭扰我们就有更强力的武器我们知道海揽发生故障一般就是自然的裂化另外一个就是外力的破坏刚刚部长也有答询就是说事前一个准备就是加强\n\n10\n00:03:32,836 --> 00:03:36,639\n的保護加上防護的設備我們也看到根據監察院的報告揭露從2019年到2023年間我國的海嵐就一共發生了約36起外力損壞的事件\n\n11\n00:03:51,770 --> 00:04:07,172\n平均每年約7起那2023年就高達12件可以說是近5年來的高峰那我們也看到就是觀光今年2025年上半年我國遭受到這個海嵐的損害的狀況\n\n12\n00:04:08,553 --> 00:04:30,625\n國內海欄就有三起那國際海欄就有兩起這樣子的一個損害的一個狀況那所以在就是不管是自然劣化或者是說被外力破壞之後剛剛部長有答詢到就是微波的一個支援或者是就是備援或者是修復這個都非常的一個重要\n\n13\n00:04:31,505 --> 00:04:49,223\n那我想請教一下就是說我們看到在2023年2月就是馬祖的海域短短的6天之內就是有連續兩條的海嵐遭受破壞那我們看到的資訊是說讓這個馬祖陷入了長達50天的網路黑暗期\n\n14\n00:04:51,075 --> 00:05:06,644\n之後我們也看到這個資料說這個台馬二號海欄遭到破壞是花費了四個月二十三天才完成修復那剛剛部長打到說這個微波備援那為什麼微波備援還會讓馬祖陷入長達五十天的網路黑暗\n\n15\n00:05:08,906 --> 00:05:21,861\n我們有微波備援所以事實上馬祖的網路並沒有全斷只是他的頻寬比較小一點這一點是不是請謝委員因為以前我們第一次在蘇巴布剛成立的時候我們就發現到這個問題所以當時的馬祖備援只有9.6G\n\n16\n00:05:25,345 --> 00:05:53,183\n所以是不足就對了對不足那我們已經擴充到12.6了所以現在他們高峰大概在1112左右所以可以完全的備援那今年的話我們也在爭取預算希望明年再進一步的擴充容量以上報告是好所以這個部分就是說是可以解決的就對了就是說在海底電如果發生被外力破壞斷掉了那我們的備援未來是可以來補上的就對了\n\n17\n00:05:53,703 --> 00:06:14,034\n是而且我們現在也在建設那個台馬4號的光纜預計在明年6月其實現在距離現在大概只有8個月應該就會完成了所以有台馬4號那個海纜以後這個我們的備援就更多了這個我們通訊跟馬祖之間的通訊韌性就會更加的改善\n\n18\n00:06:15,274 --> 00:06:31,221\n另外我再請教一下就是說我們在台馬二號海欄被破壞之後我們是花費了四個月二十三天才完成修復為什麼會花這麼多的時間因為那個海欄斷掉這個事情並不是\n\n19\n00:06:33,413 --> 00:06:48,814\n並不是經常持續性會發生所以各個那個那個海嵐的營運公司都必須去找那個海嵐修復船然後這海嵐修復船的調度有時候就是比較困難那我們這件事情我們也在想辦法那個加強是不是請我們任信司司長說明\n\n20\n00:06:50,476 --> 00:07:20,116\n謝謝委員的推詢那海岸維修確實是一個國際性的問題目前我國大概加入兩個船團一個是有夠哈馬的船團一個是東南亞印太的船團那大概有60艘船來做維修但是因為全球在做這個區域在全球的調度所以事實上調度有點困難那明年的話我們也爭取預算希望能夠來加速維修意味著說如果業者能夠在我們的平均水準以下以上能夠加速維修的話我們就可以適當的補助來適當的誘因來希望業者能夠加速來維修以上報告\n\n21\n00:07:20,796 --> 00:07:35,885\n因為我們知道海嵐被破壞維修就是因為我們剛剛有回覆說是加入兩個維修的船區那可是他的排序就是會以這個可能是以股東的那個投資的比例或者是說國際海嵐為優先\n\n22\n00:07:38,046 --> 00:08:02,802\n國內的海欄可能會被排在後面所以這個對我們國家的這樣子的一個就是數位的韌性也是一個很大的一個隱憂等於是不是我們在修復的這個我們如果沒有一個主控權的話我們是不是就受制於人所以是不是說對於面對這樣子的困境我們要怎樣去強化國內海欄的安全維護跟維修我們有沒有可能自己有一部海欄的維修船\n\n23\n00:08:03,638 --> 00:08:31,897\n是因為海纜維修船應該是很貴而且不是經常在使用所以我們現在認為說是還是加入船團那個所謂船團就是世界幾個國家的那個海纜公司他共用幾艘船那如同我們任性司司長剛剛所講的現在有六艘船那這個六艘船我們當然是希望儘快的調度那另外我們剛才也講到就是我們會有一個獎勵措施就是如果他修復的速度更快的話\n\n24\n00:08:34,058 --> 00:08:57,541\n因為我們就是說以這個台馬二號的修復的例子來看因為花了這麼多的長的時間四個多月然後因為修復的業者又遭受到中國海巡船的干擾所以也棄標了所以我覺得說面對這樣的困境我們應該要去思考怎樣來強化我們自己維修的一個量能才不會說受制於人\n\n25\n00:08:58,061 --> 00:09:08,128\n因為我們覺得就是說對整個海南安全防護網的一個強化跟建構非常重要因為這是關係到我們整個國家的一個安全是謝謝委員的指導謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3414\t6240\t謝謝主席 請主席邀請速發部林部長\n16553\t37485\t部長早我們知道在這個資訊化的時代這個海底電纜可以說是這個通訊的很重要的一個基礎設施基礎設備那我們也知道台灣因為是一個海島所以我們仰賴這個海底電纜更是非常的一個不可或缺台灣分別有14條的國際海纜登陸\n39426\t62236\t那另有六條連結台澎金馬這個離島的國內海纜那我們也看到台灣約99%的網路頻寬都要靠這個海纜所以海纜的這個重要性可以說如同台灣的這個數位生命線那我們也知道就是說最近幾年也發現這個海底電纜就是常常有損壞或是被破壞的一個狀況就是會嚴重的影響到這個\n64497\t91886\t就是說一般的話就是民生的問題這個民眾可能就是ATM沒有辦法去領款或者是包括沒辦法看影片這個日常的這種生活受影響更重要的是有關這個經濟貿易國際貿易或者是軍事的資訊的傳輸等等這個都會受到很大的一個影響所以我們今天委員會排審的這幾個法案事實上應該都是針對要怎樣去確保這個\n92622\t113342\t海底電纜的這個安全來進行的這個修法那我想先請教部長就是說針對這個海底電纜的這個安全的部分那出發部就是說是否有針對登陸我國的這個國際海纜或者是國內海纜進行風險的評估或者是說有沒有去想過要怎樣規劃優先保護區的一個劃設\n116454\t139284\t是 對於這個海欄的安全我們基本上是分為事前事中以及事後這三方面來管理首先就是在那個海欄發生斷裂的這種狀況之前就是沒有狀況的時候我們要做好監控然後我們要做好各種備援就是加強這個韌性譬如說我們會把現在新設的海欄我們加上盔甲\n139804\t166294\t然後把那個新設的海欄埋得也比較深以前埋得比較淺現在埋得比較深那另外就是適中就是如果發現海欄斷掉的話那我們必須立即啟動這個備援設施因為我們知道我們除了那個光纜本身就會有很多條彼此可以備援以外另外我們有那個微波國內譬如說台灣跟馬祖有微波那另外還有我們低軌衛星中軌衛星甚至於是同步衛星這個都是備援\n167154\t192579\t然後我們在事中我們必須盡快的把這個備援把它放上去讓民眾的使用網路不受影響然後在事後我們就是最重要是要究責那今天我們之所以會提出這個法案的修訂就是想要究責這部分我們必須把那些壞人抓起來那有責任就有責任然後他如果是用他的船來進行這個破壞我們就要把他的船扣押起來這樣子\n193659\t211935\t那些对于境外敌对势力的灰色袭扰我们就有更强力的武器我们知道海揽发生故障一般就是自然的裂化另外一个就是外力的破坏刚刚部长也有答询就是说事前一个准备就是加强\n212836\t216639\t的保護加上防護的設備我們也看到根據監察院的報告揭露從2019年到2023年間我國的海嵐就一共發生了約36起外力損壞的事件\n231770\t247172\t平均每年約7起那2023年就高達12件可以說是近5年來的高峰那我們也看到就是觀光今年2025年上半年我國遭受到這個海嵐的損害的狀況\n248553\t270625\t國內海欄就有三起那國際海欄就有兩起這樣子的一個損害的一個狀況那所以在就是不管是自然劣化或者是說被外力破壞之後剛剛部長有答詢到就是微波的一個支援或者是就是備援或者是修復這個都非常的一個重要\n271505\t289223\t那我想請教一下就是說我們看到在2023年2月就是馬祖的海域短短的6天之內就是有連續兩條的海嵐遭受破壞那我們看到的資訊是說讓這個馬祖陷入了長達50天的網路黑暗期\n291075\t306644\t之後我們也看到這個資料說這個台馬二號海欄遭到破壞是花費了四個月二十三天才完成修復那剛剛部長打到說這個微波備援那為什麼微波備援還會讓馬祖陷入長達五十天的網路黑暗\n308906\t321861\t我們有微波備援所以事實上馬祖的網路並沒有全斷只是他的頻寬比較小一點這一點是不是請謝委員因為以前我們第一次在蘇巴布剛成立的時候我們就發現到這個問題所以當時的馬祖備援只有9.6G\n325345\t353183\t所以是不足就對了對不足那我們已經擴充到12.6了所以現在他們高峰大概在11 12左右所以可以完全的備援那今年的話我們也在爭取預算希望明年再進一步的擴充容量以上報告是好所以這個部分就是說是可以解決的就對了就是說在海底電如果發生被外力破壞斷掉了那我們的備援未來是可以來補上的就對了\n353703\t374034\t是而且我們現在也在建設那個台馬4號的光纜預計在明年6月其實現在距離現在大概只有8個月應該就會完成了所以有台馬4號那個海纜以後這個我們的備援就更多了這個我們通訊跟馬祖之間的通訊韌性就會更加的改善\n375274\t391221\t另外我再請教一下就是說我們在台馬二號海欄被破壞之後我們是花費了四個月二十三天才完成修復為什麼會花這麼多的時間因為那個海欄斷掉這個事情並不是\n393413\t408814\t並不是經常持續性會發生所以各個那個那個海嵐的營運公司都必須去找那個海嵐修復船然後這海嵐修復船的調度有時候就是比較困難那我們這件事情我們也在想辦法那個加強是不是請我們任信司司長說明\n410476\t440116\t謝謝委員的推詢那海岸維修確實是一個國際性的問題目前我國大概加入兩個船團一個是有夠哈馬的船團一個是東南亞印太的船團那大概有60艘船來做維修但是因為全球在做這個區域在全球的調度所以事實上調度有點困難那明年的話我們也爭取預算希望能夠來加速維修意味著說如果業者能夠在我們的平均水準以下以上能夠加速維修的話我們就可以適當的補助來適當的誘因來希望業者能夠加速來維修以上報告\n440796\t455885\t因為我們知道海嵐被破壞維修就是因為我們剛剛有回覆說是加入兩個維修的船區那可是他的排序就是會以這個可能是以股東的那個投資的比例或者是說國際海嵐為優先\n458046\t482802\t國內的海欄可能會被排在後面所以這個對我們國家的這樣子的一個就是數位的韌性也是一個很大的一個隱憂等於是不是我們在修復的這個我們如果沒有一個主控權的話我們是不是就受制於人所以是不是說對於面對這樣子的困境我們要怎樣去強化國內海欄的安全維護跟維修我們有沒有可能自己有一部海欄的維修船\n483638\t511897\t是 因為海纜維修船應該是很貴而且不是經常在使用所以我們現在認為說是還是加入船團那個所謂船團就是世界幾個國家的那個海纜公司他共用幾艘船那如同我們任性司司長剛剛所講的現在有六艘船那這個六艘船我們當然是希望儘快的調度那另外我們剛才也講到就是我們會有一個獎勵措施就是如果他修復的速度更快的話\n514058\t537541\t因為我們就是說以這個台馬二號的修復的例子來看因為花了這麼多的長的時間四個多月然後因為修復的業者又遭受到中國海巡船的干擾所以也棄標了所以我覺得說面對這樣的困境我們應該要去思考怎樣來強化我們自己維修的一個量能才不會說受制於人\n538061\t548128\t因為我們覺得就是說對整個海南安全防護網的一個強化跟建構非常重要因為這是關係到我們整個國家的一個安全是謝謝委員的指導謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席 請主席邀請速發部林部長\n部長早我們知道在這個資訊化的時代這個海底電纜可以說是這個通訊的很重要的一個基礎設施基礎設備那我們也知道台灣因為是一個海島所以我們仰賴這個海底電纜更是非常的一個不可或缺台灣分別有14條的國際海纜登陸\n那另有六條連結台澎金馬這個離島的國內海纜那我們也看到台灣約99%的網路頻寬都要靠這個海纜所以海纜的這個重要性可以說如同台灣的這個數位生命線那我們也知道就是說最近幾年也發現這個海底電纜就是常常有損壞或是被破壞的一個狀況就是會嚴重的影響到這個\n就是說一般的話就是民生的問題這個民眾可能就是ATM沒有辦法去領款或者是包括沒辦法看影片這個日常的這種生活受影響更重要的是有關這個經濟貿易國際貿易或者是軍事的資訊的傳輸等等這個都會受到很大的一個影響所以我們今天委員會排審的這幾個法案事實上應該都是針對要怎樣去確保這個\n海底電纜的這個安全來進行的這個修法那我想先請教部長就是說針對這個海底電纜的這個安全的部分那出發部就是說是否有針對登陸我國的這個國際海纜或者是國內海纜進行風險的評估或者是說有沒有去想過要怎樣規劃優先保護區的一個劃設\n是 對於這個海欄的安全我們基本上是分為事前事中以及事後這三方面來管理首先就是在那個海欄發生斷裂的這種狀況之前就是沒有狀況的時候我們要做好監控然後我們要做好各種備援就是加強這個韌性譬如說我們會把現在新設的海欄我們加上盔甲\n然後把那個新設的海欄埋得也比較深以前埋得比較淺現在埋得比較深那另外就是適中就是如果發現海欄斷掉的話那我們必須立即啟動這個備援設施因為我們知道我們除了那個光纜本身就會有很多條彼此可以備援以外另外我們有那個微波國內譬如說台灣跟馬祖有微波那另外還有我們低軌衛星中軌衛星甚至於是同步衛星這個都是備援\n然後我們在事中我們必須盡快的把這個備援把它放上去讓民眾的使用網路不受影響然後在事後我們就是最重要是要究責那今天我們之所以會提出這個法案的修訂就是想要究責這部分我們必須把那些壞人抓起來那有責任就有責任然後他如果是用他的船來進行這個破壞我們就要把他的船扣押起來這樣子\n那些对于境外敌对势力的灰色袭扰我们就有更强力的武器我们知道海揽发生故障一般就是自然的裂化另外一个就是外力的破坏刚刚部长也有答询就是说事前一个准备就是加强\n的保護加上防護的設備我們也看到根據監察院的報告揭露從2019年到2023年間我國的海嵐就一共發生了約36起外力損壞的事件\n平均每年約7起那2023年就高達12件可以說是近5年來的高峰那我們也看到就是觀光今年2025年上半年我國遭受到這個海嵐的損害的狀況\n國內海欄就有三起那國際海欄就有兩起這樣子的一個損害的一個狀況那所以在就是不管是自然劣化或者是說被外力破壞之後剛剛部長有答詢到就是微波的一個支援或者是就是備援或者是修復這個都非常的一個重要\n那我想請教一下就是說我們看到在2023年2月就是馬祖的海域短短的6天之內就是有連續兩條的海嵐遭受破壞那我們看到的資訊是說讓這個馬祖陷入了長達50天的網路黑暗期\n之後我們也看到這個資料說這個台馬二號海欄遭到破壞是花費了四個月二十三天才完成修復那剛剛部長打到說這個微波備援那為什麼微波備援還會讓馬祖陷入長達五十天的網路黑暗\n我們有微波備援所以事實上馬祖的網路並沒有全斷只是他的頻寬比較小一點這一點是不是請謝委員因為以前我們第一次在蘇巴布剛成立的時候我們就發現到這個問題所以當時的馬祖備援只有9.6G\n所以是不足就對了對不足那我們已經擴充到12.6了所以現在他們高峰大概在11 12左右所以可以完全的備援那今年的話我們也在爭取預算希望明年再進一步的擴充容量以上報告是好所以這個部分就是說是可以解決的就對了就是說在海底電如果發生被外力破壞斷掉了那我們的備援未來是可以來補上的就對了\n是而且我們現在也在建設那個台馬4號的光纜預計在明年6月其實現在距離現在大概只有8個月應該就會完成了所以有台馬4號那個海纜以後這個我們的備援就更多了這個我們通訊跟馬祖之間的通訊韌性就會更加的改善\n另外我再請教一下就是說我們在台馬二號海欄被破壞之後我們是花費了四個月二十三天才完成修復為什麼會花這麼多的時間因為那個海欄斷掉這個事情並不是\n並不是經常持續性會發生所以各個那個那個海嵐的營運公司都必須去找那個海嵐修復船然後這海嵐修復船的調度有時候就是比較困難那我們這件事情我們也在想辦法那個加強是不是請我們任信司司長說明\n謝謝委員的推詢那海岸維修確實是一個國際性的問題目前我國大概加入兩個船團一個是有夠哈馬的船團一個是東南亞印太的船團那大概有60艘船來做維修但是因為全球在做這個區域在全球的調度所以事實上調度有點困難那明年的話我們也爭取預算希望能夠來加速維修意味著說如果業者能夠在我們的平均水準以下以上能夠加速維修的話我們就可以適當的補助來適當的誘因來希望業者能夠加速來維修以上報告\n因為我們知道海嵐被破壞維修就是因為我們剛剛有回覆說是加入兩個維修的船區那可是他的排序就是會以這個可能是以股東的那個投資的比例或者是說國際海嵐為優先\n國內的海欄可能會被排在後面所以這個對我們國家的這樣子的一個就是數位的韌性也是一個很大的一個隱憂等於是不是我們在修復的這個我們如果沒有一個主控權的話我們是不是就受制於人所以是不是說對於面對這樣子的困境我們要怎樣去強化國內海欄的安全維護跟維修我們有沒有可能自己有一部海欄的維修船\n是 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Tahovecahe 等16人、(五)委員羅美玲等19人、(六)委員黃捷等21人、(七)委員邱鎮軍\n等21人、(八)委員吳沛憶等16人、(九)委員林楚茵等17人、(十)委員沈伯洋等18人、(十一)委員\n蔡易餘等17人、(十二)委員郭昱晴等16人分別擬具「電信管理法第七十二條條文修正草案」案及\n(十三)委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「電信管理法增訂第七十二條之二條文草案」案；二、審查(一)行\n政院函請審議、 ( 二 ) 委員王美惠等 19 人、 ( 三 ) 委員李坤城等 17 人、 ( 四 ) 委員伍麗華 Saidhai\nTahovecahe 等16人、(五)委員黃捷等22人、(六)委員吳沛憶等16人、(七)委員林楚茵等17人、\n(八)委員沈伯洋等18人、(九)委員蔡易餘等16人及(十)委員郭昱晴等16人分別擬具「氣象法第二\n十一條之一條文修正草案」案；三、審查(一)行政院函請審議、(二)委員王美惠等20人、(三)委\n員李坤城等18人、(四)委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等16人、(五)委員羅美玲等19人、(六)\n委員黃捷等22 人、( 七) 委員邱鎮軍等23 人、( 八) 委員吳沛憶等16 人、( 九) 委員林楚茵等17 人、\n(十)委員沈伯洋等19人、(十一)委員蔡易餘等16人及(十二)委員郭昱晴等16人分別擬具「商港法\n第十五條及第六十五條之四條文修正草案」案；四、審查(一)行政院函請審議、(二)委員蔡其昌\n等 22 人 、 ( 三 ) 委 員 王 美 惠 等 21 人 、 ( 四 ) 委 員 李 坤 城 等 18 人 、 ( 五 ) 委 員 伍 麗 華 Saidhai\nTahovecahe 等16人、(六)委員黃捷等16人、(七)委員徐富癸等16人、(八)委員吳沛憶等16人、\n(九)委員林楚茵等17人、(十)委員沈伯洋等19人、(十一)委員蔡易餘等17人、(十二)委員郭昱晴\n等16人分別擬具「船舶法部分條文修正草案」案及(十三)委員蘇巧慧等18人擬具「船舶法第八條\n及第八十九條條文修正草案」案【本日會議僅進行詢答】","agenda_id":"1149201_00006"}}}