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00:00:46,178\n是的我剛好我的身分證字尾是1所以我今天可以去登記我早上我也去登記了我就用線上登記的方式早上看起來沒什麼塞車可能因為我們分流的關係今天好像是0跟1有分流是請問一下如果我今天去預先登記最快哪時候可以領到這個1萬塊\n\n3\n00:00:48,812 --> 00:01:16,082\n11月12号入账11月12号入账11月12号入账对开始入账那请问一下现在有很多的银行或是商家就是在讲说如何放大这1万块那我们的国银或是范公股银行有这一个放大1万块的什么红利激励这个措施还是希望说我们能够把这1万块拿去消费比较好\n\n4\n00:01:17,802 --> 00:01:44,074\n都有很多的措施包含這個但是都有配合他們的信用卡那些再來就希望大家都能夠去做一些消費活動不過好像是把它存進去存進去才有這一個也有一些是用存的所以部長認為說是存進去比較好還是把它花出去比較好看大家的各自選擇自由運用那部長你會存起來還是花出去\n\n5\n00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:53,931\n我大概会有自己相关的一些决定来做怎么样处置这个一万块就一万块啊那就促进经济来讲应该是花出去吧\n\n6\n00:01:54,894 --> 00:02:00,195\n花出去平常也在花也不會因為這1萬塊就再去我會有其他的處理我們不是在處理100萬我們就講說處理這1萬塊而已我就會花出去請教一下因為我們今天是使用牌照稅我們延長使用牌照稅的實施期間到2030年對不對\n\n7\n00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:47,117\n對189年這延長五年嘛五年對那這延長五年是因為是要配合我們這個2030年我們行政院有一個淨零排放的一個階段性的目標那我先請教一下部長因為我們這個是有貨物稅有牌照稅那就貨物稅的部分因為這其實應該都沒有爭議\n\n8\n00:02:48,198 --> 00:02:51,504\n貨物稅的部分我們這個是完稅價格在140萬的違憲對不對\n\n9\n00:02:54,574 --> 00:03:23,129\n以下的话免征以上是二分之一那我请教一下部长和署长在这边我们也希望说这个减免这个货物税能够让消费者他能够感受到那所以说进口商或是经销商在签订买卖契约的时候有确实跟消费者说明说该车应退还的货物税是因定价的策略反映在售价上面或是另行约定退还的方式\n\n10\n00:03:23,989 --> 00:03:30,858\n這個有說清楚嗎我們目前的方式是怎麼樣目前來說這個部分我想這個是署長在失誤激增上我們來做一個說明\n\n11\n00:03:32,711 --> 00:03:55,943\n包括委員目前的不管是進口商或經商因為我們這貨物稅是出廠稅那是由產製廠商就先繳納的或是進口商在進口時就先繳了這些貨物稅所以後面我們退是退給那個就是我們所謂的納稅誘人就是進口商或是所謂產製的廠商那基本上目前實務商那是退給車商對\n\n12\n00:03:57,384 --> 00:04:00,867\n等於測商沒有繳稅所以他就會在買賣契約上目前我們看到都在買賣契約上這部分他就會扣掉所以有確定說扣除的部分的話比如說140萬以下大概可以扣掉多少\n\n13\n00:04:15,419 --> 00:04:22,644\n看它的完稅價格我們如果以140萬為例現在是25%的稅那就35萬所以它就等於因為我們完稅價格跟市售價格不一樣完稅價格是有課稅價格市售它還會疊加譬如它的利潤運費保險費等等之類它會疊加上去所以它最後就必須要把那35萬如果以完稅價140萬為例如果它最後疊加售價是170萬它把那35萬扣退給消費者\n\n14\n00:04:45,000 --> 00:05:04,550\n這目前都有規定很清楚嗎我們目前是沒有在法令上這樣說但是在實務上因為既然沒有繳這個稅他就會把這個稅扣掉那這樣子對於車商有什麼樣的一個約制力就是我們希望說扣掉這個貨物稅是讓我們的消費者他願意去買電動車\n\n15\n00:05:06,031 --> 00:05:22,621\n對啊那增加電動車就是讓我們這個近年排放的目標能夠達成嘛那你如果說有扣掉貨物稅免到排到稅了那結果咧排到稅應該是消費者啦我說貨物稅的話那如果沒有反映給消費者的話那我們只是讓車商得到這些好處而已啊\n\n16\n00:05:23,188 --> 00:05:48,784\n包括委員根據過去我們這個退還減徵貨物稅的經驗的話目前看到的是都有反應那如果就像我們上次在未含糖飲料要減徵貨物稅我們免稅的時候我們也有要求因為它金額太小所以我們做消費這個金額比較大如果有必要目前我們看到的是都有反應因為金額太大消費者自己知道他會爭取\n\n17\n00:05:49,825 --> 00:05:58,186\n我還是希望說雖然這個是延續性的政策但是我還是希望說財政部這方面能不能把它定得更清楚\n\n18\n00:05:59,945 --> 00:06:10,574\n好我們研究看看怎麼訂或是透過請主管部會去加強就像上次一樣請主管部會去加強那這個應該算是經濟部對目前是經濟部好那你們跟經濟部去討論一下我們還是希望說這個免掉貨物稅之後這個能夠讓消費者他能夠得到說那的確我應該是買電動車那也得也的確貨物稅有減免140萬以下全免嘛140萬以上我們就看那個比率再做調整嘛對不對是\n\n19\n00:06:28,908 --> 00:06:53,708\n好那把這一個比較清楚的一個方式我覺得還是定出來了好不好是是是好那這個可能要請經濟部也來回答一下因為我們這個是配合行政院2030年的運具電動化的階段性的目標經濟部那我們有一個2030年運具電動化的目標是電動小客車市售比要百分之三十電動機車市售比百分之三十五\n\n20\n00:06:54,288 --> 00:06:58,730\n這有可能透過免貨物稅免牌照稅能夠達到這個目標嗎署長報告委員我們透過這樣子的租稅減免可以鼓勵更多的行賄者可以買那我是說達到這個目標嗎對這個是我們很有信心可以達到這個目標有信心達到這個目標距離現在還有一段差距現在是多少\n\n21\n00:07:18,297 --> 00:07:38,272\n現在是大概10%左右對啊10%20%要成長20%五年的時間20%有辦法嗎但是因為這一兩年它的電動車的成長率都是蠻高的以這樣的成長趨勢的話我們當然希望說能夠達到因為我們政策上面已經做一些優惠了好那再請一下蘇珊請回請教一下\n\n22\n00:07:38,993 --> 00:07:55,798\n部長剛從韓國參加APEC回來現在韓國的媒體他們也對於說台灣的經濟成長感到驚訝不論是我們的GDP人均GDP有可能在今年會超過韓國是不是\n\n23\n00:07:56,988 --> 00:08:19,066\n是的我们预测人均GDP今年在37430这是韩国然后台湾是38066所以这个是在时隔22年之后台湾的人均GDP再度超越韩国然后我们的经济成长率也超越他们\n\n24\n00:08:20,027 --> 00:08:21,949\n請教一下部長您剛從韓國回來您認為我們經濟成長率跟人均GDP贏韓國的策略是什麼\n\n25\n00:08:28,802 --> 00:08:48,667\n主要是我们的整个国家的政策选对的方向因为第一个我们知道之前我们有加速投资台湾的三大方案让台湾的资金以吸引在国外的资金回来投资这个投资其实就奠定了我们后续AI整个供应链更为完整\n\n26\n00:08:50,067 --> 00:09:03,132\n所以我們的出口暢旺所以這一次我們在APEC的時候南韓的幾位官員都很羨慕我們台灣這一次的經濟成長率幾乎是比他們高出很多那最主要是我們加速台灣投資的三大方案的一個策略選擇那台商回台投資以及讓我們支撐整個出口這一次的暢旺\n\n27\n00:09:11,508 --> 00:09:22,511\n整個出口都創歷年的新高請教一下部長今年經濟成長率看起來是會在5%以上對於明年經濟成長率你的看法\n\n28\n00:09:23,966 --> 00:09:38,339\n經濟成長率整個的估測是在主機總署那主機總署都會定期的一個公佈那應該是不會超過5%啦對不對目前我看到他的資料大概沒有到5%不過可能也會隨時的調整大概大概2.5到3左右啦初步他是這樣的估測那我再請教一下部長\n\n29\n00:09:44,545 --> 00:10:07,643\n那主席總書他也預估啦在這個經濟規模成長還有新台幣升值的兩大因素助攻之下明年的GDP有可能突破4萬美元那部長覺得有可能達到嗎我們上次突破3萬是在2021年那有可能您認為說在這種經濟成長的規模之下有可能明年GDP成長突破4萬美元嗎\n\n30\n00:10:08,611 --> 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對那這延長五年是因為是要配合我們這個2030年我們行政院有一個淨零排放的一個階段性的目標那我先請教一下部長因為我們這個是有貨物稅有牌照稅那就貨物稅的部分因為這其實應該都沒有爭議\n168198\t171504\t貨物稅的部分我們這個是完稅價格在140萬的違憲 對不對\n174574\t203129\t以下的话免征以上是二分之一那我请教一下部长和署长在这边我们也希望说这个减免这个货物税能够让消费者他能够感受到那所以说进口商或是经销商在签订买卖契约的时候有确实跟消费者说明说该车应退还的货物税是因定价的策略反映在售价上面或是另行约定退还的方式\n203989\t210858\t這個有說清楚嗎我們目前的方式是怎麼樣目前來說這個部分我想這個是署長在失誤激增上我們來做一個說明\n212711\t235943\t包括委員目前的不管是進口商或經商因為我們這貨物稅是出廠稅那是由產製廠商就先繳納的或是進口商在進口時就先繳了這些貨物稅所以後面我們退是退給那個就是我們所謂的納稅誘人就是進口商或是所謂產製的廠商那基本上目前實務商那是退給車商對\n237384\t240867\t等於測商沒有繳稅所以他就會在買賣契約上目前我們看到都在買賣契約上這部分他就會扣掉所以有確定說扣除的部分的話比如說140萬以下大概可以扣掉多少\n255419\t262644\t看它的完稅價格我們如果以140萬為例現在是25%的稅那就35萬所以它就等於因為我們完稅價格跟市售價格不一樣完稅價格是有課稅價格市售它還會疊加譬如它的利潤運費保險費等等之類它會疊加上去所以它最後就必須要把那35萬如果以完稅價140萬為例如果它最後疊加售價是170萬它把那35萬扣退給消費者\n285000\t304550\t這目前都有規定很清楚嗎我們目前是沒有在法令上這樣說但是在實務上因為既然沒有繳這個稅他就會把這個稅扣掉那這樣子對於車商有什麼樣的一個約制力就是我們希望說扣掉這個貨物稅是讓我們的消費者他願意去買電動車\n306031\t322621\t對啊 那增加電動車就是讓我們這個近年排放的目標能夠達成嘛那你如果說有扣掉貨物稅免到排到稅了那結果咧 排到稅應該是消費者啦我說貨物稅的話那如果沒有反映給消費者的話那我們只是讓車商得到這些好處而已啊\n323188\t348784\t包括委員根據過去我們這個退還減徵貨物稅的經驗的話目前看到的是都有反應那如果就像我們上次在未含糖飲料要減徵貨物稅我們免稅的時候我們也有要求因為它金額太小所以我們做消費這個金額比較大如果有必要目前我們看到的是都有反應因為金額太大消費者自己知道他會爭取\n349825\t358186\t我還是希望說雖然這個是延續性的政策但是我還是希望說財政部這方面能不能把它定得更清楚\n359945\t370574\t好 我們研究看看怎麼訂或是透過請主管部會去加強就像上次一樣請主管部會去加強那這個應該算是經濟部對 目前是經濟部好 那你們跟經濟部去討論一下我們還是希望說這個免掉貨物稅之後這個能夠讓消費者他能夠得到說那的確我應該是買電動車那也得 也的確貨物稅有減免140萬以下 全免嘛140萬以上我們就看那個比率再做調整嘛 對不對是\n388908\t413708\t好那把這一個比較清楚的一個方式我覺得還是定出來了好不好是是是好那這個可能要請經濟部也來回答一下因為我們這個是配合行政院2030年的運具電動化的階段性的目標經濟部那我們有一個2030年運具電動化的目標是電動小客車市售比要百分之三十電動機車市售比百分之三十五\n414288\t418730\t這有可能透過免貨物稅 免牌照稅能夠達到這個目標嗎 署長報告委員 我們透過這樣子的租稅減免可以鼓勵更多的行賄者可以買那我是說達到這個目標嗎對 這個是我們很有信心可以達到這個目標有信心達到這個目標距離現在還有一段差距 現在是多少\n438297\t458272\t現在是大概10%左右對啊 10% 20%要成長20%五年的時間20%有辦法嗎但是因為這一兩年它的電動車的成長率都是蠻高的以這樣的成長趨勢的話我們當然希望說能夠達到因為我們政策上面已經做一些優惠了好 那再請一下蘇珊請回請教一下\n458993\t475798\t部長剛從韓國參加APEC回來現在韓國的媒體他們也對於說台灣的經濟成長感到驚訝不論是我們的GDP人均GDP有可能在今年會超過韓國是不是\n476988\t499066\t是的我们预测人均GDP今年在37430这是韩国然后台湾是38066所以这个是在时隔22年之后台湾的人均GDP再度超越韩国然后我们的经济成长率也超越他们\n500027\t501949\t請教一下部長您剛從韓國回來您認為我們經濟成長率跟人均GDP贏韓國的策略是什麼\n508802\t528667\t主要是我们的整个国家的政策选对的方向因为第一个我们知道之前我们有加速投资台湾的三大方案让台湾的资金以吸引在国外的资金回来投资这个投资其实就奠定了我们后续AI整个供应链更为完整\n530067\t543132\t所以我們的出口暢旺所以這一次我們在APEC的時候南韓的幾位官員都很羨慕我們台灣這一次的經濟成長率幾乎是比他們高出很多那最主要是我們加速台灣投資的三大方案的一個策略選擇那台商回台投資以及讓我們支撐整個出口這一次的暢旺\n551508\t562511\t整個出口都創歷年的新高請教一下部長今年經濟成長率看起來是會在5%以上對於明年經濟成長率你的看法\n563966\t578339\t經濟成長率整個的估測是在主機總署那主機總署都會定期的一個公佈那應該是不會超過5%啦對不對目前我看到他的資料大概沒有到5%不過可能也會隨時的調整大概大概2.5到3左右啦初步他是這樣的估測那我再請教一下部長\n584545\t607643\t那主席總書他也預估啦在這個經濟規模成長還有新台幣升值的兩大因素助攻之下明年的GDP有可能突破4萬美元那部長覺得有可能達到嗎我們上次突破3萬是在2021年那有可能您認為說在這種經濟成長的規模之下有可能明年GDP成長突破4萬美元嗎\n608611\t616997\t我想這個部分還是要尊重主席總署的一個估測沒有啦 那就您的看法勒當然預測是他在預測啦 就您的看法勒那我想我們後續還是要持續的觀察因為還有許多不確定的因素存在啦那你有信心嗎美國的關稅的一個稅率最後是怎麼樣以及還有匯率的一些變動等等地緣政治風險都是要考慮的一些變動因素那部長有信心嗎\n633807\t640833\t我們希望我們都有信心大家全國同仁一起努力 同胞們一起努力好 謝謝好 謝謝李坤 陳昭緯\n","txt":"謝謝主席 我們請莊部長好 請莊部長委員好部長好今天我們普發U1是開始線上預登記是不是\n是的我剛好我的身分證字尾是1所以我今天可以去登記我早上我也去登記了我就用線上登記的方式早上看起來沒什麼塞車可能因為我們分流的關係今天好像是0跟1有分流 是請問一下如果我今天去預先登記最快哪時候可以領到這個1萬塊\n11月12号入账11月12号入账11月12号入账对 开始入账那请问一下现在有很多的银行或是商家就是在讲说如何放大这1万块那我们的国银或是范公股银行有这一个放大1万块的什么红利 激励这个措施还是希望说我们能够把这1万块拿去消费比较好\n都有很多的措施包含這個但是都有配合他們的信用卡那些再來就希望大家都能夠去做一些消費活動不過好像是把它存進去 存進去才有這一個也有一些是用存的所以部長認為說是存進去比較好還是把它花出去比較好看大家的各自選擇 自由運用那部長你會存起來還是花出去\n我大概会有自己相关的一些决定来做怎么样处置这个一万块就一万块啊那就促进经济来讲应该是花出去吧\n花出去平常也在花也不會因為這1萬塊就再去我會有其他的處理我們不是在處理100萬我們就講說處理這1萬塊而已我就會花出去請教一下因為我們今天是使用牌照稅我們延長使用牌照稅的實施期間到2030年對不對\n對 189年這延長五年嘛五年 對那這延長五年是因為是要配合我們這個2030年我們行政院有一個淨零排放的一個階段性的目標那我先請教一下部長因為我們這個是有貨物稅有牌照稅那就貨物稅的部分因為這其實應該都沒有爭議\n貨物稅的部分我們這個是完稅價格在140萬的違憲 對不對\n以下的话免征以上是二分之一那我请教一下部长和署长在这边我们也希望说这个减免这个货物税能够让消费者他能够感受到那所以说进口商或是经销商在签订买卖契约的时候有确实跟消费者说明说该车应退还的货物税是因定价的策略反映在售价上面或是另行约定退还的方式\n這個有說清楚嗎我們目前的方式是怎麼樣目前來說這個部分我想這個是署長在失誤激增上我們來做一個說明\n包括委員目前的不管是進口商或經商因為我們這貨物稅是出廠稅那是由產製廠商就先繳納的或是進口商在進口時就先繳了這些貨物稅所以後面我們退是退給那個就是我們所謂的納稅誘人就是進口商或是所謂產製的廠商那基本上目前實務商那是退給車商對\n等於測商沒有繳稅所以他就會在買賣契約上目前我們看到都在買賣契約上這部分他就會扣掉所以有確定說扣除的部分的話比如說140萬以下大概可以扣掉多少\n看它的完稅價格我們如果以140萬為例現在是25%的稅那就35萬所以它就等於因為我們完稅價格跟市售價格不一樣完稅價格是有課稅價格市售它還會疊加譬如它的利潤運費保險費等等之類它會疊加上去所以它最後就必須要把那35萬如果以完稅價140萬為例如果它最後疊加售價是170萬它把那35萬扣退給消費者\n這目前都有規定很清楚嗎我們目前是沒有在法令上這樣說但是在實務上因為既然沒有繳這個稅他就會把這個稅扣掉那這樣子對於車商有什麼樣的一個約制力就是我們希望說扣掉這個貨物稅是讓我們的消費者他願意去買電動車\n對啊 那增加電動車就是讓我們這個近年排放的目標能夠達成嘛那你如果說有扣掉貨物稅免到排到稅了那結果咧 排到稅應該是消費者啦我說貨物稅的話那如果沒有反映給消費者的話那我們只是讓車商得到這些好處而已啊\n包括委員根據過去我們這個退還減徵貨物稅的經驗的話目前看到的是都有反應那如果就像我們上次在未含糖飲料要減徵貨物稅我們免稅的時候我們也有要求因為它金額太小所以我們做消費這個金額比較大如果有必要目前我們看到的是都有反應因為金額太大消費者自己知道他會爭取\n我還是希望說雖然這個是延續性的政策但是我還是希望說財政部這方面能不能把它定得更清楚\n好 我們研究看看怎麼訂或是透過請主管部會去加強就像上次一樣請主管部會去加強那這個應該算是經濟部對 目前是經濟部好 那你們跟經濟部去討論一下我們還是希望說這個免掉貨物稅之後這個能夠讓消費者他能夠得到說那的確我應該是買電動車那也得 也的確貨物稅有減免140萬以下 全免嘛140萬以上我們就看那個比率再做調整嘛 對不對是\n好那把這一個比較清楚的一個方式我覺得還是定出來了好不好是是是好那這個可能要請經濟部也來回答一下因為我們這個是配合行政院2030年的運具電動化的階段性的目標經濟部那我們有一個2030年運具電動化的目標是電動小客車市售比要百分之三十電動機車市售比百分之三十五\n這有可能透過免貨物稅 免牌照稅能夠達到這個目標嗎 署長報告委員 我們透過這樣子的租稅減免可以鼓勵更多的行賄者可以買那我是說達到這個目標嗎對 這個是我們很有信心可以達到這個目標有信心達到這個目標距離現在還有一段差距 現在是多少\n現在是大概10%左右對啊 10% 20%要成長20%五年的時間20%有辦法嗎但是因為這一兩年它的電動車的成長率都是蠻高的以這樣的成長趨勢的話我們當然希望說能夠達到因為我們政策上面已經做一些優惠了好 那再請一下蘇珊請回請教一下\n部長剛從韓國參加APEC回來現在韓國的媒體他們也對於說台灣的經濟成長感到驚訝不論是我們的GDP人均GDP有可能在今年會超過韓國是不是\n是的我们预测人均GDP今年在37430这是韩国然后台湾是38066所以这个是在时隔22年之后台湾的人均GDP再度超越韩国然后我们的经济成长率也超越他们\n請教一下部長您剛從韓國回來您認為我們經濟成長率跟人均GDP贏韓國的策略是什麼\n主要是我们的整个国家的政策选对的方向因为第一个我们知道之前我们有加速投资台湾的三大方案让台湾的资金以吸引在国外的资金回来投资这个投资其实就奠定了我们后续AI整个供应链更为完整\n所以我們的出口暢旺所以這一次我們在APEC的時候南韓的幾位官員都很羨慕我們台灣這一次的經濟成長率幾乎是比他們高出很多那最主要是我們加速台灣投資的三大方案的一個策略選擇那台商回台投資以及讓我們支撐整個出口這一次的暢旺\n整個出口都創歷年的新高請教一下部長今年經濟成長率看起來是會在5%以上對於明年經濟成長率你的看法\n經濟成長率整個的估測是在主機總署那主機總署都會定期的一個公佈那應該是不會超過5%啦對不對目前我看到他的資料大概沒有到5%不過可能也會隨時的調整大概大概2.5到3左右啦初步他是這樣的估測那我再請教一下部長\n那主席總書他也預估啦在這個經濟規模成長還有新台幣升值的兩大因素助攻之下明年的GDP有可能突破4萬美元那部長覺得有可能達到嗎我們上次突破3萬是在2021年那有可能您認為說在這種經濟成長的規模之下有可能明年GDP成長突破4萬美元嗎\n我想這個部分還是要尊重主席總署的一個估測沒有啦 那就您的看法勒當然預測是他在預測啦 就您的看法勒那我想我們後續還是要持續的觀察因為還有許多不確定的因素存在啦那你有信心嗎美國的關稅的一個稅率最後是怎麼樣以及還有匯率的一些變動等等地緣政治風險都是要考慮的一些變動因素那部長有信心嗎\n我們希望我們都有信心大家全國同仁一起努力 同胞們一起努力好 謝謝好 謝謝李坤 陳昭緯\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.777 --> 00:05.199\n謝謝主席我們請莊部長好請莊部長委員好部長好今天我們普發U1是開始線上預登記是不是\n\n00:18.277 --> 00:46.178\n是的我剛好我的身分證字尾是1所以我今天可以去登記我早上我也去登記了我就用線上登記的方式早上看起來沒什麼塞車可能因為我們分流的關係今天好像是0跟1有分流是請問一下如果我今天去預先登記最快哪時候可以領到這個1萬塊\n\n00:48.812 --> 01:16.082\n11月12号入账11月12号入账11月12号入账对开始入账那请问一下现在有很多的银行或是商家就是在讲说如何放大这1万块那我们的国银或是范公股银行有这一个放大1万块的什么红利激励这个措施还是希望说我们能够把这1万块拿去消费比较好\n\n01:17.802 --> 01:44.074\n都有很多的措施包含這個但是都有配合他們的信用卡那些再來就希望大家都能夠去做一些消費活動不過好像是把它存進去存進去才有這一個也有一些是用存的所以部長認為說是存進去比較好還是把它花出去比較好看大家的各自選擇自由運用那部長你會存起來還是花出去\n\n01:45.410 --> 01:53.931\n我大概会有自己相关的一些决定来做怎么样处置这个一万块就一万块啊那就促进经济来讲应该是花出去吧\n\n01:54.894 --> 02:00.195\n花出去平常也在花也不會因為這1萬塊就再去我會有其他的處理我們不是在處理100萬我們就講說處理這1萬塊而已我就會花出去請教一下因為我們今天是使用牌照稅我們延長使用牌照稅的實施期間到2030年對不對\n\n02:23.919 --> 02:47.117\n對189年這延長五年嘛五年對那這延長五年是因為是要配合我們這個2030年我們行政院有一個淨零排放的一個階段性的目標那我先請教一下部長因為我們這個是有貨物稅有牌照稅那就貨物稅的部分因為這其實應該都沒有爭議\n\n02:48.198 --> 02:51.504\n貨物稅的部分我們這個是完稅價格在140萬的違憲對不對\n\n02:54.574 --> 03:23.129\n以下的话免征以上是二分之一那我请教一下部长和署长在这边我们也希望说这个减免这个货物税能够让消费者他能够感受到那所以说进口商或是经销商在签订买卖契约的时候有确实跟消费者说明说该车应退还的货物税是因定价的策略反映在售价上面或是另行约定退还的方式\n\n03:23.989 --> 03:30.858\n這個有說清楚嗎我們目前的方式是怎麼樣目前來說這個部分我想這個是署長在失誤激增上我們來做一個說明\n\n03:32.711 --> 03:55.943\n包括委員目前的不管是進口商或經商因為我們這貨物稅是出廠稅那是由產製廠商就先繳納的或是進口商在進口時就先繳了這些貨物稅所以後面我們退是退給那個就是我們所謂的納稅誘人就是進口商或是所謂產製的廠商那基本上目前實務商那是退給車商對\n\n03:57.384 --> 04:00.867\n等於測商沒有繳稅所以他就會在買賣契約上目前我們看到都在買賣契約上這部分他就會扣掉所以有確定說扣除的部分的話比如說140萬以下大概可以扣掉多少\n\n04:15.419 --> 04:22.644\n看它的完稅價格我們如果以140萬為例現在是25%的稅那就35萬所以它就等於因為我們完稅價格跟市售價格不一樣完稅價格是有課稅價格市售它還會疊加譬如它的利潤運費保險費等等之類它會疊加上去所以它最後就必須要把那35萬如果以完稅價140萬為例如果它最後疊加售價是170萬它把那35萬扣退給消費者\n\n04:45.000 --> 05:04.550\n這目前都有規定很清楚嗎我們目前是沒有在法令上這樣說但是在實務上因為既然沒有繳這個稅他就會把這個稅扣掉那這樣子對於車商有什麼樣的一個約制力就是我們希望說扣掉這個貨物稅是讓我們的消費者他願意去買電動車\n\n05:06.031 --> 05:22.621\n對啊那增加電動車就是讓我們這個近年排放的目標能夠達成嘛那你如果說有扣掉貨物稅免到排到稅了那結果咧排到稅應該是消費者啦我說貨物稅的話那如果沒有反映給消費者的話那我們只是讓車商得到這些好處而已啊\n\n05:23.188 --> 05:48.784\n包括委員根據過去我們這個退還減徵貨物稅的經驗的話目前看到的是都有反應那如果就像我們上次在未含糖飲料要減徵貨物稅我們免稅的時候我們也有要求因為它金額太小所以我們做消費這個金額比較大如果有必要目前我們看到的是都有反應因為金額太大消費者自己知道他會爭取\n\n05:49.825 --> 05:58.186\n我還是希望說雖然這個是延續性的政策但是我還是希望說財政部這方面能不能把它定得更清楚\n\n05:59.945 --> 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