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--> 00:00:43,895\n局長好局長我們台灣是海島國家那海域的航道也是我們的經濟命脈因為能源97%是仰賴海域那貨物的貿易98%也是經由海域那所以船舶的安全還有港口的運作飲水制度是國際航運的信用根本那更關乎到國安可是近幾年我們接連看到海事事故接連發生那從外籍船舶碰撞防波堤然後再到港區的作業失誤還有飲水過程的疏漏所以這樣都凸顯無關\n\n3\n00:00:45,255 --> 00:01:04,135\n凸顯和提醒我國就是我們的航岸管理制度需要做檢討跟改善那有幾個首先要先和局長討論我們船東哲樂縣PNI的審查心智剛才廖先生委員也有問到嘛那我們每年有超過一萬三千艘的外籍船舶進出港口那其中九成以上是不是都是權宜船\n\n4\n00:01:05,983 --> 00:01:30,170\n前一輪的部分的確是比例非常高因為他們通常都是掛載成本比較低然後更審查寬鬆的國家那這樣的話安全就是取決於船體還有航道的操作我們剛才也要討論就是事故後他可不可以透過PNI及時讓就是受損或是受害的單位還有環境可以獲得保障這很關鍵\n\n5\n00:01:31,090 --> 00:01:44,365\n那這次的航港局局長您剛才提到10月15號正式上路的PNI審查新制喔那剛剛您也有提到TripleB那除了TripleB之外還有沒有其他的要求呢還是只要有這個TripleB的四大信用評鑑機構就夠了呢\n\n6\n00:01:47,107 --> 00:02:10,852\n基本上TripleB在這個他是經過國際上的四大信用平等機構來確認他的履約的能力那基本上經過TripleB的這個認可依照我們專業保險顧問的建議呢認為他應該是有具有足夠的履約能力所以只要這個TripleB他不用同時就是他也要我國合法的保險公司跟國際傳統這個互保協會\n\n7\n00:02:12,672 --> 00:02:39,827\n他總是不用具備這樣的條件嗎包委員我不好意思我再幫他仔細一下國內的產險公司也是我們這個許可的名單裡面所以比如說國內的這幾家產險公司都在我們現在公布的49家名單裡面那本市長要請教請教局長那這個制度是不是真的能夠保障我們台灣呢還是包委員因為我們進行的是所謂的實質的審查\n\n8\n00:02:41,909 --> 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00:05:33,006\n有我們現在的這個保險的這個系統叫MTNET那進出港系統這個已經跟開放權限的港公司跟海保署他如果可以直接查詢傳播的保險資料那另外請教局長那針對高風險的船系像LNG船還是游船化學船品那你們有沒有就是有要求更高的保險額還有更明確的他的限時賠償門檻\n\n16\n00:05:34,352 --> 00:05:58,147\n有除了我剛剛跟委員報告航港局是依照海商法來要求這個保險的額度之外海保署他依照海務法針對高風險的船舶包括LNG化學品船郵輪這些高風險船他們有另外的法規規定來提高較高的這個海務的責任的保險的額度那我們的這個進港的這個保險額度的審查\n\n17\n00:05:59,568 --> 00:06:20,395\n是航港局要求的這個額度再加上海報署的額度這兩個額度都要符合才能夠進港OK好謝謝局長說明那最後就是本期肯定就是我們航港局推動這個新的制度那希望就實際能夠落實那我們之後有沒有就會會不會建立一個就是完成的審查成果呢就是一個報告機制\n\n18\n00:06:22,083 --> 00:06:48,676\n報告委員這個部分我們可以來評估研究那因為我們剛開始上路實施我們現在做法是每一天都在這個監控有沒有這個違規的局長你有提到還有120多間121艘121艘你們還要再做輔導嗎那希望就是可以像是這樣的審查審查件數還是不正比例或是甚至是黑名單你們都可以完全的公開透明出來\n\n19\n00:06:49,176 --> 00:07:04,536\n那最後時間的關係局長就是你們有提到C月上線的傳播智慧檢查系統號稱這套系統它結合AI的辨識還有風險預測可以提高預警高風險的傳播可是這個是不是根據過去資本資料的集合呢這套AI系統\n\n20\n00:07:05,678 --> 00:07:18,340\n我們這個新的智慧檢查系統有兩個主要的功能第一個是AI的影像辨識的技術它可以做這個那它能不能夠就是它辨識現在正在發生的航行紀錄\n\n21\n00:07:21,203 --> 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局長您剛有提到你們從年初的時候就開始做宣導了嗎那你們有沒有跟海巡署然後還有港澳公司有沒有建立資料的互通\n309238\t333006\t有我們現在的這個保險的這個系統叫MTNET那進出港系統這個已經跟開放權限的港公司跟海保署他如果可以直接查詢傳播的保險資料那另外請教局長那針對高風險的船系像LNG船還是游船化學船品那你們有沒有就是有要求更高的保險額還有更明確的他的限時賠償門檻\n334352\t358147\t有 除了我剛剛跟委員報告 航港局是依照海商法來要求這個保險的額度之外 海保署他依照海務法 針對高風險的船舶 包括LNG化學品船 郵輪這些高風險船 他們有另外的法規規定來提高較高的這個海務的責任的保險的額度 那我們的這個進港的這個保險額度的審查\n359568\t380395\t是航港局要求的這個額度再加上海報署的額度這兩個額度都要符合才能夠進港OK好謝謝局長說明那最後就是本期肯定就是我們航港局推動這個新的制度那希望就實際能夠落實那我們之後有沒有就會會不會建立一個就是完成的審查成果呢就是一個報告機制\n382083\t408676\t報告委員這個部分我們可以來評估研究那因為我們剛開始上路實施我們現在做法是每一天都在這個監控有沒有這個違規的局長你有提到還有120多間121艘121艘你們還要再做輔導嗎那希望就是可以像是這樣的審查審查件數還是不正比例或是甚至是黑名單你們都可以完全的公開透明出來\n409176\t424536\t那最後時間的關係局長就是你們有提到C月上線的傳播智慧檢查系統號稱這套系統它結合AI的辨識還有風險預測可以提高預警高風險的傳播可是這個是不是根據過去資本資料的集合呢這套AI系統\n425678\t438340\t我們這個新的智慧檢查系統有兩個主要的功能第一個是AI的影像辨識的技術它可以做這個那它能不能夠就是它辨識現在正在發生的航行紀錄\n441203\t463475\t這個是要看這個我們利用大數據分析的這個技術來預測這個傳播他可能的缺失項目那這個是利用他過去檢查記錄利用統計的理論跟大數據分析的記錄所以他意思是說他目前還沒有串聯即時AIS的航跡或是他的傳播維修還有他的保養履歷嗎他們有沒有串聯起來目前還沒有\n464015\t470764\t那跨國事故跟扣船紀錄也同樣沒有被記錄在裡面委員這個建議我想是我們再進一步來是是是謝謝委員的寶貴建議謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席 主席再反請航港局局長 請葉協榮局長卓榮好\n局長好 局長我們台灣是海島國家那海域的航道也是我們的經濟命脈因為能源97%是仰賴海域那貨物的貿易98%也是經由海域那所以船舶的安全還有港口的運作飲水制度是國際航運的信用根本那更關乎到國安可是近幾年我們接連看到海事事故接連發生那從外籍船舶碰撞 防波堤然後再到港區的作業失誤還有飲水過程的疏漏所以這樣都凸顯無關\n凸顯和提醒我國就是我們的航岸管理制度需要做檢討跟改善那有幾個首先要先和局長討論我們船東哲樂縣PNI的審查心智剛才廖先生委員也有問到嘛那我們每年有超過一萬三千艘的外籍船舶進出港口那其中九成以上是不是都是權宜船\n前一輪的部分的確是比例非常高因為他們通常都是掛載成本比較低然後更審查寬鬆的國家那這樣的話安全就是取決於船體還有航道的操作我們剛才也要討論就是事故後他可不可以透過PNI及時讓就是受損或是受害的單位還有環境可以獲得保障這很關鍵\n那這次的航港局局長您剛才提到10月15號正式上路的PNI審查新制喔那剛剛您也有提到Triple B那除了Triple B之外還有沒有其他的要求呢還是只要有這個Triple B的四大信用評鑑機構就夠了呢\n基本上Triple B在這個他是經過國際上的四大信用平等機構來確認他的履約的能力那基本上經過Triple B的這個認可依照我們專業保險顧問的建議呢認為他應該是有具有足夠的履約能力所以只要這個Triple B他不用同時就是他也要我國合法的保險公司跟國際傳統這個互保協會\n他總是不用具備這樣的條件嗎包委員我不好意思我再幫他仔細一下國內的產險公司也是我們這個許可的名單裡面所以比如說國內的這幾家產險公司都在我們現在公布的49家名單裡面那本市長要請教請教局長那這個制度是不是真的能夠保障我們台灣呢還是包委員因為我們進行的是所謂的實質的審查\n所以第一個保險公司他是要有旅業能力的第二個他的保單保單的項目跟他的保額都也要符合我們的要求所以保額的部分針對\n這個我們依照三港法要求的傳統責任險的部分是依照這個海商法的規定我們是依照他的段位乘以162特別提款 局長我們來看就是運安會10月29號有公告一個調查報告針對台達二號液化天然氣船在台中港那時候他有觸碰到磅礡體的事件雖然\n表面上看起來它有這個保險制度可以依循但是後續的它的賠禮的時效還有跨國的追查還有機關的協調我想本席想這個是關鍵因為我們從去年然後到2023年2022年然後像是巴拿馬的散裝船它就是它停靠就是因為它動力失能停靠在台北港停靠在基隆港那同時2022年也有這個長翅輪它也是同樣是跨國的的一個事件嘛\n那這樣這樣子的跨國的禮盃程序通常要多久呢跨國的禮盃程序其實是非常隆長那所以我們希望從源頭來處理起那這樣的跨國保險人跟受害方嗎那當時我們台灣是受害方那這樣子是由哪一個單位來做統籌\n如果是海事案件的這個港區內的部分是港務公司港區外的部分基本上就是所以港務公司作為主責單位嗎港區內港區內的海事案件是那本席想要請教請教局長剛才你有提到97%其實他這個比例是完成申報的比例還是他是實際上通過航港局主案你們去做核對的實質審查\n報告委員這個部分除了這個他是符合這個完成申報程序之外我們也完成實質的審查有實質的審查嗎有實質的審查那我們公共委員報怎麼實質審查除了我們確定他的49家的名單內之外我們會去由專業的保險公司會去這個PMI\nIG Club 我們叫國際的這個傳統互保協會的網站去查詢他這個確實是不是有這個保單是 局長您剛有提到你們從年初的時候就開始做宣導了嗎那你們有沒有跟海巡署然後還有港澳公司有沒有建立資料的互通\n有我們現在的這個保險的這個系統叫MTNET那進出港系統這個已經跟開放權限的港公司跟海保署他如果可以直接查詢傳播的保險資料那另外請教局長那針對高風險的船系像LNG船還是游船化學船品那你們有沒有就是有要求更高的保險額還有更明確的他的限時賠償門檻\n有 除了我剛剛跟委員報告 航港局是依照海商法來要求這個保險的額度之外 海保署他依照海務法 針對高風險的船舶 包括LNG化學品船 郵輪這些高風險船 他們有另外的法規規定來提高較高的這個海務的責任的保險的額度 那我們的這個進港的這個保險額度的審查\n是航港局要求的這個額度再加上海報署的額度這兩個額度都要符合才能夠進港OK好謝謝局長說明那最後就是本期肯定就是我們航港局推動這個新的制度那希望就實際能夠落實那我們之後有沒有就會會不會建立一個就是完成的審查成果呢就是一個報告機制\n報告委員這個部分我們可以來評估研究那因為我們剛開始上路實施我們現在做法是每一天都在這個監控有沒有這個違規的局長你有提到還有120多間121艘121艘你們還要再做輔導嗎那希望就是可以像是這樣的審查審查件數還是不正比例或是甚至是黑名單你們都可以完全的公開透明出來\n那最後時間的關係局長就是你們有提到C月上線的傳播智慧檢查系統號稱這套系統它結合AI的辨識還有風險預測可以提高預警高風險的傳播可是這個是不是根據過去資本資料的集合呢這套AI系統\n我們這個新的智慧檢查系統有兩個主要的功能第一個是AI的影像辨識的技術它可以做這個那它能不能夠就是它辨識現在正在發生的航行紀錄\n這個是要看這個我們利用大數據分析的這個技術來預測這個傳播他可能的缺失項目那這個是利用他過去檢查記錄利用統計的理論跟大數據分析的記錄所以他意思是說他目前還沒有串聯即時AIS的航跡或是他的傳播維修還有他的保養履歷嗎他們有沒有串聯起來目前還沒有\n那跨國事故跟扣船紀錄也同樣沒有被記錄在裡面委員這個建議我想是我們再進一步來是是是謝謝委員的寶貴建議謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.949 --> 00:08.612\n好謝謝主席主席再反請航港局局長請葉協榮局長卓榮好\n\n00:15.567 --> 00:43.895\n局長好局長我們台灣是海島國家那海域的航道也是我們的經濟命脈因為能源97%是仰賴海域那貨物的貿易98%也是經由海域那所以船舶的安全還有港口的運作飲水制度是國際航運的信用根本那更關乎到國安可是近幾年我們接連看到海事事故接連發生那從外籍船舶碰撞防波堤然後再到港區的作業失誤還有飲水過程的疏漏所以這樣都凸顯無關\n\n00:45.255 --> 01:04.135\n凸顯和提醒我國就是我們的航岸管理制度需要做檢討跟改善那有幾個首先要先和局長討論我們船東哲樂縣PNI的審查心智剛才廖先生委員也有問到嘛那我們每年有超過一萬三千艘的外籍船舶進出港口那其中九成以上是不是都是權宜船\n\n01:05.983 --> 01:30.170\n前一輪的部分的確是比例非常高因為他們通常都是掛載成本比較低然後更審查寬鬆的國家那這樣的話安全就是取決於船體還有航道的操作我們剛才也要討論就是事故後他可不可以透過PNI及時讓就是受損或是受害的單位還有環境可以獲得保障這很關鍵\n\n01:31.090 --> 01:44.365\n那這次的航港局局長您剛才提到10月15號正式上路的PNI審查新制喔那剛剛您也有提到TripleB那除了TripleB之外還有沒有其他的要求呢還是只要有這個TripleB的四大信用評鑑機構就夠了呢\n\n01:47.107 --> 02:10.852\n基本上TripleB在這個他是經過國際上的四大信用平等機構來確認他的履約的能力那基本上經過TripleB的這個認可依照我們專業保險顧問的建議呢認為他應該是有具有足夠的履約能力所以只要這個TripleB他不用同時就是他也要我國合法的保險公司跟國際傳統這個互保協會\n\n02:12.672 --> 02:39.827\n他總是不用具備這樣的條件嗎包委員我不好意思我再幫他仔細一下國內的產險公司也是我們這個許可的名單裡面所以比如說國內的這幾家產險公司都在我們現在公布的49家名單裡面那本市長要請教請教局長那這個制度是不是真的能夠保障我們台灣呢還是包委員因為我們進行的是所謂的實質的審查\n\n02:41.909 --> 02:53.862\n所以第一個保險公司他是要有旅業能力的第二個他的保單保單的項目跟他的保額都也要符合我們的要求所以保額的部分針對\n\n02:56.966 --> 03:17.127\n這個我們依照三港法要求的傳統責任險的部分是依照這個海商法的規定我們是依照他的段位乘以162特別提款局長我們來看就是運安會10月29號有公告一個調查報告針對台達二號液化天然氣船在台中港那時候他有觸碰到磅礡體的事件雖然\n\n03:18.448 --> 03:47.607\n表面上看起來它有這個保險制度可以依循但是後續的它的賠禮的時效還有跨國的追查還有機關的協調我想本席想這個是關鍵因為我們從去年然後到2023年2022年然後像是巴拿馬的散裝船它就是它停靠就是因為它動力失能停靠在台北港停靠在基隆港那同時2022年也有這個長翅輪它也是同樣是跨國的的一個事件嘛\n\n03:48.047 --> 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Tahovecahe 等16人、(五)委員羅美玲等19人、(六)委員黃捷等21人、(七)委員邱鎮軍\n等21人、(八)委員吳沛憶等16人、(九)委員林楚茵等17人、(十)委員沈伯洋等18人、(十一)委員\n蔡易餘等17人、(十二)委員郭昱晴等16人分別擬具「電信管理法第七十二條條文修正草案」案及\n(十三)委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「電信管理法增訂第七十二條之二條文草案」案；二、審查(一)行\n政院函請審議、 ( 二 ) 委員王美惠等 19 人、 ( 三 ) 委員李坤城等 17 人、 ( 四 ) 委員伍麗華 Saidhai\nTahovecahe 等16人、(五)委員黃捷等22人、(六)委員吳沛憶等16人、(七)委員林楚茵等17人、\n(八)委員沈伯洋等18人、(九)委員蔡易餘等16人及(十)委員郭昱晴等16人分別擬具「氣象法第二\n十一條之一條文修正草案」案；三、審查(一)行政院函請審議、(二)委員王美惠等20人、(三)委\n員李坤城等18人、(四)委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等16人、(五)委員羅美玲等19人、(六)\n委員黃捷等22 人、( 七) 委員邱鎮軍等23 人、( 八) 委員吳沛憶等16 人、( 九) 委員林楚茵等17 人、\n(十)委員沈伯洋等19人、(十一)委員蔡易餘等16人及(十二)委員郭昱晴等16人分別擬具「商港法\n第十五條及第六十五條之四條文修正草案」案；四、審查(一)行政院函請審議、(二)委員蔡其昌\n等 22 人 、 ( 三 ) 委 員 王 美 惠 等 21 人 、 ( 四 ) 委 員 李 坤 城 等 18 人 、 ( 五 ) 委 員 伍 麗 華 Saidhai\nTahovecahe 等16人、(六)委員黃捷等16人、(七)委員徐富癸等16人、(八)委員吳沛憶等16人、\n(九)委員林楚茵等17人、(十)委員沈伯洋等19人、(十一)委員蔡易餘等17人、(十二)委員郭昱晴\n等16人分別擬具「船舶法部分條文修正草案」案及(十三)委員蘇巧慧等18人擬具「船舶法第八條\n及第八十九條條文修正草案」案【本日會議僅進行詢答】","agenda_id":"1149201_00006"}}}