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00:01:55,021\n所以是7月底7月30號再公佈之前的意思是前一個月前半年我想這個確定的時候就可以說明現在有時候到了分戶的時候那事實上銀行他就撥款現在這個情況還在出現嗎\n\n8\n00:02:11,460 --> 00:02:31,849\n這個部分因為對新青安的部分已經做了一些調整也就因為他們是沒有房屋的買房子那所以在銀行法的部分今晚會做處理就是去除了那個把72條之2的一個總額的一個計算對那然後再排撥就是說在等待撥款的部分也已經舒緩了\n\n9\n00:02:32,529 --> 00:02:58,110\n所以72條之二開始解禁了以後那這段時間有多少的戶數又成交了就是分戶的部分有順利貸款貸成的這個部分舒緩了排波因為原來因為有這個天條這個限制所以在都必須要等待排隊那現在整個已經舒緩了在時間上都已經加快現在還沒有在排隊沒有辦法完成的多不多\n\n10\n00:02:59,214 --> 00:03:14,647\n目前看起來都沒有都不會了對都會按照原來規定的時程來給予撥款好的一個案子因為有他的這個動機嘛我們希望能真正的照顧到年輕人是的\n\n11\n00:03:18,079 --> 00:03:43,005\n至少讓大家買得起住得起付得起有未來無論如何要想一個好的方法如果說真的造成年輕人的壓力所以就不敢買房不敢結婚不生小孩事實上這是很嚴重的國安問題建議部長全世界例子蠻多的你可以參考新加坡主屋的例子\n\n12\n00:03:44,522 --> 00:03:57,845\n推出一個更好的政策讓年輕人他可以有未來他繼續願意留在台灣認真努力的打拼這才是政府存在的原因嘛\n\n13\n00:04:00,221 --> 00:04:12,609\n對委員所提的也就是我們提出各項的政府提出各項的住宅政策裡面的許多的一些做法包含社會住宅社會住宅基本上是用出租的還有它那個現在的制度新興安是協助他們購買其實現在就是\n\n14\n00:04:16,632 --> 00:04:40,823\n把羈押一些政策全部放在一個籠子裡面羈押根本就不同籠你羈押同籠就打架想的東西政策方面思考的點就會不一致比如說現在一直打房另外一個角度來看台北市的豪宅它的定義是幾千萬\n\n15\n00:04:46,302 --> 00:05:13,124\n的定義就是說幾千萬兩個不一樣央行有央行的定義財政部有財政部的定義財政部的豪宅的標準是台北市幾千萬台北市是六千萬台北市的豪宅六千萬那等於是幾坪叫豪宅\n\n16\n00:05:14,486 --> 00:05:42,779\n報告委員我們不是真的定義叫豪宅我們只是定義是用客稅的基礎客稅的基礎可是那銀行所有大家都聽不懂那央行的豪宅的定義是多少7千7千萬台北市7千其實你以現在的生活水平來看你比較新加坡日本東京或者上海香港等等7千萬怎麼能算是豪宅\n\n17\n00:05:45,300 --> 00:06:13,555\n那我就倒著算那你好載等於是一個房子是幾坪這個定義因為有政策上不同在央行裡面它因為有些信用的管制所以它定一個價格你們思考一下其實是兩個概念你台北市比較淡黃區你要讓它經濟蓬勃發展你貴就讓它貴嘛\n\n18\n00:06:14,395 --> 00:06:28,833\n但是年輕人要住的你要離台北市區大概20、30分鐘像日本東京都的概念你讓年輕人在周圍有捷運可以通的地方你要讓他住得起讓他付得起這個\n\n19\n00:06:31,018 --> 00:06:50,159\n一個概念你要包括住宅政策以及銀行融資貸款新清安的政策你要包裹在一起想所以你看新加坡香港他們有很多都市中心的一些周邊的市中心會出現\n\n20\n00:06:51,400 --> 00:07:04,741\n你要把這個整個融合在一起另外講到今天的免稅的問題拍照這影響最大的就是新北市新北市因為這樣稅損多少\n\n21\n00:07:07,924 --> 00:07:23,294\n新北市的稅水我們大概再查一下11億多11億多啦不會一年沒有那麼多吧有那麼多嗎請新北市跟委員報告過去是11.7億未來5年如果再免徵是38億對所以你未來這幾年再免徵38億他講的是累計數累計數不是一年\n\n22\n00:07:33,016 --> 00:07:40,403\n就是未來還有38億部長你這個部分少的部分你中央要怎麼樣補回來\n\n23\n00:07:43,610 --> 00:08:01,689\n第一个跟委员报告我想这个在税法里面是地方政府得免征使用牌照税所以地方政府可以依照他自己的财政状况去考量怎么样去执行当然目前实务上地方政府都是给予免征这是一个那第二个呢\n\n24\n00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:29,528\n鼓勵使用電動車對於空氣的污染是有好的我想對於地方政府在空氣污染的防治上是也有所幫助剛才也有許多委員提到是不是要有其他中央的一個相關的基金來做一些補貼或補助這是很需要的目前來說相關的部會他們會後會去再做進一步的研議是請部長多多考慮因為你少了這一塊38億對我們新北市的\n\n25\n00:08:32,370 --> 00:08:38,774\n人民來說情何以堪啊因為我們教育也要錢啊長照也要錢啊你少了這38億這麼大的一塊那我們必須要補上去啊這由在中央啊多多給予照顧你這樣的話不要說因為推了這個法案那造成地方這些弱勢團體或者這些年輕的老人的一些關懷的照顧減少的話\n\n26\n00:08:59,554 --> 00:09:18,419\n那你這個可以說是整個政策的推動為得不足啊所以拜託減多少請補多少這是一個觀念那今天那個好不容易我們爭取的普發現金以外現在今天開始上路了嗎\n\n27\n00:09:19,701 --> 00:09:24,784\n今天開始預登記了總算努力了一年多從開始中央還說沒錢啊這個政策不可能啊那我們也是證明了說國家至上民眾第一嘛還好你們這個所有的方向轉回來開始普發現金一萬一人領一萬快樂常相伴我希望這是一個開始\n\n28\n00:09:47,575 --> 00:10:05,100\n未來每年稅收超征的時刻還是要時時刻刻想到人民照顧人民因為現在大家莫忘世上苦人多希望一萬一萬有機會年年都要來好不好好\n\n29\n00:10:09,724 --> 00:10:24,558\n現在詐騙很多財政部在宣導方面還是要多多加強我知道財政部要宣導只是目前為止很多人還問說那我會被騙請問部長你要化波入帳以你個人來說還是你要領現金\n\n30\n00:10:29,721 --> 00:10:41,907\n以我上一次的話我是用登記錄帳也就是在網站上面就是輸入相關的資料以後他會自動撥款的那是因為你比較熟悉一般民眾覺得詐騙多他還是希望領到熱騰騰的現金比較實在希望說這個錢領到了以後大家隨意想領的就領部長你會鼓勵大家不要領因為不領大家就回歸到國庫\n\n31\n00:10:58,181 --> 00:11:13,609\n我想今天來看一個早上已經預登記的就是有47萬了我想很多民眾都已經開始進去做預登記你看大家等好久了所以這個47萬的話連續加一加上一次大概來領的超過99%沒有領的不到1%這次部長你怎麼預計我們認為應該也可以達到99%以上\n\n32\n00:11:26,805 --> 00:11:31,545\n那部長你0了1萬你要做什麼使用我自己會有自己的決定\n\n33\n00:11:32,290 --> 00:11:38,174\n什麼樣的決定我是要捐出來因為現在弱勢團體很多單親家庭或者是一些關懷的團體這幾年的收入很少所以我領到一萬我要捐出來那部長你領到一萬要做什麼委員充滿愛心那捐款的部分其實我平常也就都在信用卡扣款就在捐那這個部分一萬塊我會自己做相關的決定做什麼一萬塊想那麼久\n\n34\n00:12:02,891 --> 00:12:24,848\n我問那個行政院長他就說他要捐出來啊我說你捐我也捐所以你要不要捐出來我會做自己的決定那捐我平常都在捐我不會只等這一萬塊才捐的那你也等很久你加加自己的小菜為自己補一下好好好促進經濟的成長好謝謝羅民財委員好部長請回接下來請黃珊珊委員質詢\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n8034\t16159\t那個新青安開始大概多少年的時間了那加匯多少的年輕人總金額是多少\n18902\t20603\t112年的8月開始實施的那總共合帶的戶數有13萬6500戶那這個是等於是協助有13萬的朋友們去買了房子是 那這個中間有很多人買兩戶啊\n36326\t48680\t不会啊不能啊只能他必须是他本人配偶跟未成年子女是名下没有房子的才可以申请新青安所以你说新青安加会了多少人\n49912\t75305\t多少人 你說人是指戶還是指一個人戶好了那我覺得你用13萬6518來對 13萬最少 那是戶其實有很多年輕朋友他想要買房 現在也不敢買因為買了所有的東西還是攪不起而且房屋的這個價格節節高升\n76434\t97344\t即便現在我們普發現金多少一萬塊也沒有用啊相較之下可以說是越差越遠這個越來距離越來越大所以明年新清單就到齊了7月那新清案的政策還會繼續再延續下去嗎\n98567\t111408\t這個部分跟委員報告這個部分我們當然會就執行的情況再來做一些檢討看要不要做調整那會不會調整大概什麼時候會對外公佈那當然會在截止之前\n112500\t115021\t所以是7月底7月30號再公佈之前的意思是前一個月前半年我想這個確定的時候就可以說明現在有時候到了分戶的時候那事實上銀行他就撥款現在這個情況還在出現嗎\n131460\t151849\t這個部分因為對新青安的部分已經做了一些調整也就因為他們是沒有房屋的買房子那所以在銀行法的部分今晚會做處理就是去除了那個把72條之2的一個總額的一個計算對那然後再排撥就是說在等待撥款的部分也已經舒緩了\n152529\t178110\t所以72條之二開始解禁了以後那這段時間有多少的戶數又成交了就是分戶的部分有順利貸款貸成的這個部分舒緩了排波因為原來因為有這個天條這個限制所以在都必須要等待排隊那現在整個已經舒緩了在時間上都已經加快現在還沒有在排隊沒有辦法完成的多不多\n179214\t194647\t目前看起來都沒有 都不會了對 都會按照原來規定的時程來給予撥款好的一個案子因為有他的這個動機嘛我們希望能真正的照顧到年輕人是的\n198079\t223005\t至少讓大家買得起 住得起 付得起有未來無論如何要想一個好的方法如果說真的造成年輕人的壓力所以就不敢買房 不敢結婚 不生小孩事實上這是很嚴重的國安問題建議部長 全世界例子蠻多的你可以參考新加坡主屋的例子\n224522\t237845\t推出一個更好的政策讓年輕人他可以有未來他繼續願意留在台灣認真努力的打拼這才是政府存在的原因嘛\n240221\t252609\t對委員所提的也就是我們提出各項的政府提出各項的住宅政策裡面的許多的一些做法包含社會住宅社會住宅基本上是用出租的還有它那個現在的制度新興安是協助他們購買其實現在就是\n256632\t280823\t把羈押一些政策全部放在一個籠子裡面羈押根本就不同籠你羈押同籠就打架想的東西政策方面思考的點就會不一致比如說現在一直打房另外一個角度來看台北市的豪宅它的定義是幾千萬\n286302\t313124\t的定義就是說幾千萬 兩個不一樣央行有央行的定義財政部有財政部的定義財政部的豪宅的標準是台北市幾千萬台北市是六千萬台北市的豪宅六千萬那等於是幾坪叫豪宅\n314486\t342779\t報告委員我們不是真的定義叫豪宅我們只是定義是用客稅的基礎客稅的基礎可是那銀行所有大家都聽不懂那央行的豪宅的定義是多少7千7千萬台北市7千其實你以現在的生活水平來看你比較新加坡 日本東京或者上海 香港等等7千萬怎麼能算是豪宅\n345300\t373555\t那我就倒著算那你好載等於是一個房子是幾坪這個定義因為有政策上不同在央行裡面它因為有些信用的管制所以它定一個價格你們思考一下其實是兩個概念你台北市比較淡黃區你要讓它經濟蓬勃發展你貴就讓它貴嘛\n374395\t388833\t但是年輕人要住的你要離台北市區大概20、30分鐘像日本東京都的概念你讓年輕人在周圍有捷運可以通的地方你要讓他住得起讓他付得起這個\n391018\t410159\t一個概念你要包括住宅政策以及銀行融資貸款新清安的政策你要包裹在一起想所以你看新加坡香港他們有很多都市中心的一些周邊的市中心會出現\n411400\t424741\t你要把這個整個融合在一起另外講到今天的免稅的問題拍照這影響最大的就是新北市新北市因為這樣稅損多少\n427924\t443294\t新北市的稅水我們大概再查一下11億多11億多啦不會一年沒有那麼多吧有那麼多嗎請新北市跟委員報告過去是11.7億未來5年如果再免徵是38億對所以你未來這幾年再免徵38億他講的是累計數累計數不是一年\n453016\t460403\t就是未來還有38億部長 你這個部分少的部分你中央要怎麼樣補回來\n463610\t481689\t第一个跟委员报告我想这个在税法里面是地方政府得免征使用牌照税所以地方政府可以依照他自己的财政状况去考量怎么样去执行当然目前实务上地方政府都是给予免征这是一个那第二个呢\n482950\t509528\t鼓勵使用電動車對於空氣的污染是有好的我想對於地方政府在空氣污染的防治上是也有所幫助剛才也有許多委員提到是不是要有其他中央的一個相關的基金來做一些補貼或補助這是很需要的目前來說相關的部會他們會後會去再做進一步的研議是 請部長多多考慮因為你少了這一塊38億對我們新北市的\n512370\t518774\t人民來說情何以堪啊因為我們教育也要錢啊長照也要錢啊你少了這38億這麼大的一塊那我們必須要補上去啊這由在中央啊多多給予照顧你這樣的話不要說因為推了這個法案那造成地方這些弱勢團體或者這些年輕的老人的一些關懷的照顧減少的話\n539554\t558419\t那你這個可以說是整個政策的推動為得不足啊所以拜託減多少請補多少這是一個觀念那今天那個好不容易我們爭取的普發現金以外現在今天開始上路了嗎\n559701\t564784\t今天開始預登記了總算努力了一年多從開始中央還說沒錢啊這個政策不可能啊那我們也是證明了說國家至上民眾第一嘛還好你們這個所有的方向轉回來開始普發現金一萬一人領一萬快樂常相伴我希望這是一個開始\n587575\t605100\t未來每年稅收超征的時刻還是要時時刻刻想到人民照顧人民因為現在大家莫忘世上苦人多希望一萬一萬有機會年年都要來好不好好\n609724\t624558\t現在詐騙很多財政部在宣導方面還是要多多加強我知道財政部要宣導只是目前為止很多人還問說那我會被騙請問部長你要化波入帳以你個人來說還是你要領現金\n629721\t641907\t以我上一次的話我是用登記錄帳也就是在網站上面就是輸入相關的資料以後他會自動撥款的那是因為你比較熟悉一般民眾覺得詐騙多他還是希望領到熱騰騰的現金比較實在希望說這個錢領到了以後大家隨意想領的就領部長你會鼓勵大家不要領因為不領大家就回歸到國庫\n658181\t673609\t我想今天來看一個早上已經預登記的就是有47萬了我想很多民眾都已經開始進去做預登記你看大家等好久了所以這個47萬的話連續加一加上一次大概來領的超過99%沒有領的不到1%這次部長你怎麼預計我們認為應該也可以達到99%以上\n686805\t691545\t那部長你0了1萬你要做什麼使用我自己會有自己的決定\n692290\t698174\t什麼樣的決定我是要捐出來因為現在弱勢團體很多單親家庭或者是一些關懷的團體這幾年的收入很少所以我領到一萬我要捐出來那部長你領到一萬要做什麼委員充滿愛心那捐款的部分其實我平常也就都在信用卡扣款就在捐那這個部分一萬塊我會自己做相關的決定做什麼一萬塊想那麼久\n722891\t744848\t我問那個行政院長他就說他要捐出來啊我說你捐我也捐所以你要不要捐出來我會做自己的決定那捐我平常都在捐我不會只等這一萬塊才捐的那你也等很久你加加自己的小菜為自己補一下好好好 促進經濟的成長好 謝謝羅民財委員好 部長請回接下來請黃珊珊委員質詢\n","txt":"那個新青安開始大概多少年的時間了那加匯多少的年輕人總金額是多少\n112年的8月開始實施的那總共合帶的戶數有13萬6500戶那這個是等於是協助有13萬的朋友們去買了房子是 那這個中間有很多人買兩戶啊\n不会啊不能啊只能他必须是他本人配偶跟未成年子女是名下没有房子的才可以申请新青安所以你说新青安加会了多少人\n多少人 你說人是指戶還是指一個人戶好了那我覺得你用13萬6518來對 13萬最少 那是戶其實有很多年輕朋友他想要買房 現在也不敢買因為買了所有的東西還是攪不起而且房屋的這個價格節節高升\n即便現在我們普發現金多少一萬塊也沒有用啊相較之下可以說是越差越遠這個越來距離越來越大所以明年新清單就到齊了7月那新清案的政策還會繼續再延續下去嗎\n這個部分跟委員報告這個部分我們當然會就執行的情況再來做一些檢討看要不要做調整那會不會調整大概什麼時候會對外公佈那當然會在截止之前\n所以是7月底7月30號再公佈之前的意思是前一個月前半年我想這個確定的時候就可以說明現在有時候到了分戶的時候那事實上銀行他就撥款現在這個情況還在出現嗎\n這個部分因為對新青安的部分已經做了一些調整也就因為他們是沒有房屋的買房子那所以在銀行法的部分今晚會做處理就是去除了那個把72條之2的一個總額的一個計算對那然後再排撥就是說在等待撥款的部分也已經舒緩了\n所以72條之二開始解禁了以後那這段時間有多少的戶數又成交了就是分戶的部分有順利貸款貸成的這個部分舒緩了排波因為原來因為有這個天條這個限制所以在都必須要等待排隊那現在整個已經舒緩了在時間上都已經加快現在還沒有在排隊沒有辦法完成的多不多\n目前看起來都沒有 都不會了對 都會按照原來規定的時程來給予撥款好的一個案子因為有他的這個動機嘛我們希望能真正的照顧到年輕人是的\n至少讓大家買得起 住得起 付得起有未來無論如何要想一個好的方法如果說真的造成年輕人的壓力所以就不敢買房 不敢結婚 不生小孩事實上這是很嚴重的國安問題建議部長 全世界例子蠻多的你可以參考新加坡主屋的例子\n推出一個更好的政策讓年輕人他可以有未來他繼續願意留在台灣認真努力的打拼這才是政府存在的原因嘛\n對委員所提的也就是我們提出各項的政府提出各項的住宅政策裡面的許多的一些做法包含社會住宅社會住宅基本上是用出租的還有它那個現在的制度新興安是協助他們購買其實現在就是\n把羈押一些政策全部放在一個籠子裡面羈押根本就不同籠你羈押同籠就打架想的東西政策方面思考的點就會不一致比如說現在一直打房另外一個角度來看台北市的豪宅它的定義是幾千萬\n的定義就是說幾千萬 兩個不一樣央行有央行的定義財政部有財政部的定義財政部的豪宅的標準是台北市幾千萬台北市是六千萬台北市的豪宅六千萬那等於是幾坪叫豪宅\n報告委員我們不是真的定義叫豪宅我們只是定義是用客稅的基礎客稅的基礎可是那銀行所有大家都聽不懂那央行的豪宅的定義是多少7千7千萬台北市7千其實你以現在的生活水平來看你比較新加坡 日本東京或者上海 香港等等7千萬怎麼能算是豪宅\n那我就倒著算那你好載等於是一個房子是幾坪這個定義因為有政策上不同在央行裡面它因為有些信用的管制所以它定一個價格你們思考一下其實是兩個概念你台北市比較淡黃區你要讓它經濟蓬勃發展你貴就讓它貴嘛\n但是年輕人要住的你要離台北市區大概20、30分鐘像日本東京都的概念你讓年輕人在周圍有捷運可以通的地方你要讓他住得起讓他付得起這個\n一個概念你要包括住宅政策以及銀行融資貸款新清安的政策你要包裹在一起想所以你看新加坡香港他們有很多都市中心的一些周邊的市中心會出現\n你要把這個整個融合在一起另外講到今天的免稅的問題拍照這影響最大的就是新北市新北市因為這樣稅損多少\n新北市的稅水我們大概再查一下11億多11億多啦不會一年沒有那麼多吧有那麼多嗎請新北市跟委員報告過去是11.7億未來5年如果再免徵是38億對所以你未來這幾年再免徵38億他講的是累計數累計數不是一年\n就是未來還有38億部長 你這個部分少的部分你中央要怎麼樣補回來\n第一个跟委员报告我想这个在税法里面是地方政府得免征使用牌照税所以地方政府可以依照他自己的财政状况去考量怎么样去执行当然目前实务上地方政府都是给予免征这是一个那第二个呢\n鼓勵使用電動車對於空氣的污染是有好的我想對於地方政府在空氣污染的防治上是也有所幫助剛才也有許多委員提到是不是要有其他中央的一個相關的基金來做一些補貼或補助這是很需要的目前來說相關的部會他們會後會去再做進一步的研議是 請部長多多考慮因為你少了這一塊38億對我們新北市的\n人民來說情何以堪啊因為我們教育也要錢啊長照也要錢啊你少了這38億這麼大的一塊那我們必須要補上去啊這由在中央啊多多給予照顧你這樣的話不要說因為推了這個法案那造成地方這些弱勢團體或者這些年輕的老人的一些關懷的照顧減少的話\n那你這個可以說是整個政策的推動為得不足啊所以拜託減多少請補多少這是一個觀念那今天那個好不容易我們爭取的普發現金以外現在今天開始上路了嗎\n今天開始預登記了總算努力了一年多從開始中央還說沒錢啊這個政策不可能啊那我們也是證明了說國家至上民眾第一嘛還好你們這個所有的方向轉回來開始普發現金一萬一人領一萬快樂常相伴我希望這是一個開始\n未來每年稅收超征的時刻還是要時時刻刻想到人民照顧人民因為現在大家莫忘世上苦人多希望一萬一萬有機會年年都要來好不好好\n現在詐騙很多財政部在宣導方面還是要多多加強我知道財政部要宣導只是目前為止很多人還問說那我會被騙請問部長你要化波入帳以你個人來說還是你要領現金\n以我上一次的話我是用登記錄帳也就是在網站上面就是輸入相關的資料以後他會自動撥款的那是因為你比較熟悉一般民眾覺得詐騙多他還是希望領到熱騰騰的現金比較實在希望說這個錢領到了以後大家隨意想領的就領部長你會鼓勵大家不要領因為不領大家就回歸到國庫\n我想今天來看一個早上已經預登記的就是有47萬了我想很多民眾都已經開始進去做預登記你看大家等好久了所以這個47萬的話連續加一加上一次大概來領的超過99%沒有領的不到1%這次部長你怎麼預計我們認為應該也可以達到99%以上\n那部長你0了1萬你要做什麼使用我自己會有自己的決定\n什麼樣的決定我是要捐出來因為現在弱勢團體很多單親家庭或者是一些關懷的團體這幾年的收入很少所以我領到一萬我要捐出來那部長你領到一萬要做什麼委員充滿愛心那捐款的部分其實我平常也就都在信用卡扣款就在捐那這個部分一萬塊我會自己做相關的決定做什麼一萬塊想那麼久\n我問那個行政院長他就說他要捐出來啊我說你捐我也捐所以你要不要捐出來我會做自己的決定那捐我平常都在捐我不會只等這一萬塊才捐的那你也等很久你加加自己的小菜為自己補一下好好好 促進經濟的成長好 謝謝羅民財委員好 部長請回接下來請黃珊珊委員質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.034 --> 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